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Big-Block 4-Cylinder Muscle Car Gets Turbo And Supercharged Versions! Automation & BeamNG 

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@franic_scopes9165
@franic_scopes9165 Год назад
If you add a well tuned supercharger it will feel like you have added a larger engine to your vehicle. The reason is a good supercharger (yes a procharger IS just another supercharger) should follow your N/A powerband fairly closely, only adding a torque/hp multiplier. There should not be any power spikes anywhere in the powerband. Blowers are notorious for their parasitic internal drag, which means that they will have to make extra boost to overcome this loss. Somthing else to note is blown engines consume large amounts of fuel because they make constant boost and need to be ran rich so that they don't burn up valves, pistons, etc. If you add a properly tuned turbocharger to an engine it will respond naturally asperated until it comes into boost range. The reason: A turbo works by taking the extremely hot (less dense) exaust air from an engine and uses it to compress the cooler (more dense) intake air, the density difference between the chambers and the compressor profile are what allow the turbo to work. A set of waistgates allow excess pressure escape from the system, thus keeping the engine from overboosting. Since a turbos are exaust powered they don't boost up until the engine reaches a certain rpm, giving you turbo lag. A turbo's powerband will have a dead zone at the bottom, will spike up, then steadily climb from there. A turbo's variable boost is what gives turbocharged vehicles better fuel economy. Even though it was not used in this video I feel like explaining it anyway. Nitrous Oxide Injection is considered the most dangerous form of boost mainly because it is an extremely "clean" form of boost meaning that the only notable change in a 50hp jet and a 300hp jet is the dyno graph. Folks get happy with the boost, send their engine to the moon, then complain about how dangerous nitrous is. N2O works by giving more oxygen to the combustion chamber. A wet plate setup adds extra fuel to the mix as well. Now we get to my personal favorite! There ain't no replacement for displacement. A larger displacement engine literally has more room to make more power. Big c.i. N/A engines need to have optimised airflow through the heads. Other than that there is not much to them. In Summary: Superchargers are better suited to low RPM high torque demand applications Turbochargers are better for higher RPM and constant torque demand applications Nitrous Oxide Injection is best for sudden short term power applications Big Displacement Natually Asperated engines are ideal when you have the space. Edit: I would like to add that all forced induction applications are cramming extra air and fuel into the combustion chamber thus leading to more power. Certain methods such as a roots/screw superchargers create a “flat” boost profile, meaning that they will provide the same amount of pressure from idle to RPMs. Centrifugal superchargers (often referred to as ProChargers) have a variable boost curve, starting with relatively low pressure near idle, then drastically increasing throughout the RPM band. Turbos Have an incredible variation in boost profiles due to how tunable they are. In some applications turbos have shown similar power bands to supercharged engines. Specifically in the case of the VW 1.8 IDI the tune utilized to the high airflow of the diesel engine to produce higher and more responsive boost directly off the line. This is the primary reason (outside of better efficiency) that almost all modern diesels are turbocharged.
@brentlanyon4654
@brentlanyon4654 Год назад
I generally agree, but you can put small snails on modern engines which make gobs of down low torque. The VW/Audi 1.8 turbo is a good example of this, and is at the expense of bigger horsepower higher in the rev range. Direct injection and high powered computer chips with good algorithms have been game changers.
@commietearsdrinker
@commietearsdrinker Год назад
Excellent explanation, my friend. Learned a little more about superchargers/turbochargers today.
@sigmamale4147
@sigmamale4147 Год назад
Conclusion: i love power dense japanese NA engines :)
@genuinecve
@genuinecve Год назад
I hear your Big CI N/A engine argument, and raise you a Big CI, twin charged engine, with nitrous
@RailsofForney
@RailsofForney 3 месяца назад
There’s a reason they call them “positive-displacement superchargers” after all.
@BGS79085
@BGS79085 Год назад
Finally, a time in place where a supercharger is better
@braziliansheetbox2497
@braziliansheetbox2497 Год назад
Supercharger is always better giving the same power level as a turbo, but turbo make way more power 😅
@speedyme200
@speedyme200 Год назад
superchargers like to give instantaneous boost
@JefeInquisidorGOW
@JefeInquisidorGOW Год назад
If you pay attention you can see that the supercharged car is making more boost to compensate for the parasitic loss of the supercharger system.
@stanley4290
@stanley4290 Год назад
@@JefeInquisidorGOW do you yhink he would put enough effort to tune that in?
@2seep
@2seep Год назад
@@braziliansheetbox2497that’s why you brake boost, it’s a cheating technique in turbocharged cars.
@seany642
@seany642 Год назад
you should add a big spreadsheet at the end of the video showing all the results kinda like project farm
@mr.3phase228
@mr.3phase228 Год назад
I love PF, I started using AMSOIL because of his oil show down. Then I became a dealer!
@calculator1841
@calculator1841 Год назад
Men of culture I see
@hypnogames_
@hypnogames_ Год назад
now we need a TWIN CHARGED version
@RailsofForney
@RailsofForney 3 месяца назад
Twincharging does seem to have some benefits, after all.
@RailsofForney
@RailsofForney 3 месяца назад
You have the best of both worlds: the instant torque provided by a supercharger, and the high-end power of a turbocharger, all in one.
@Miles7955
@Miles7955 Год назад
Slightly unfair considering the N/A car revs higher and has 1 less gear, Wouldn't that throw the fuel economy tests out the window?
@aoyuki1409
@aoyuki1409 Год назад
the N/A engine didnt have enough torque to maintain at 5th gear with minimal throttle. using 5th gear requires stepping more on throttle and would result in less MPG anyway
@Spiltdestructor
@Spiltdestructor Год назад
These cars look really nice!
@3ch0_17
@3ch0_17 Год назад
Ah yes, big block 4 banger. Absolutely piss poor bottom end but a top end so insane it'll knock ur socks off
@0rangeGhost4
@0rangeGhost4 Год назад
i would like to hear how such engine would sound like in Engine Simulator
@weissach_package
@weissach_package Год назад
early, good to see the car getting used again
@henriquesalvatti544
@henriquesalvatti544 Год назад
This feels like a car Ford or GM would sell in south america and name it something like "Tupinambá".
@JefeInquisidorGOW
@JefeInquisidorGOW Год назад
It's actually called the macarena
@kul3013
@kul3013 24 дня назад
that diesel soundalike is AMAZING
@ThatSlowSaturn
@ThatSlowSaturn Год назад
What map did you use for the standing mile? Also, beautiful cars! When I first started watching the video I thought they were vanilla beam cars 😅
@kenji642
@kenji642 Год назад
its the airstrip on italy
@ThatSlowSaturn
@ThatSlowSaturn Год назад
@@kenji642 ❤️
@VercettiMP5
@VercettiMP5 Год назад
That Turbo logo reminds me of the Saab 900's one, love it
@nealfox1976
@nealfox1976 Год назад
Anxious to see the outcome of this battle!!!
@CadRuf
@CadRuf Год назад
Nice test but miss the 500hp super N/A test
@SuperLancevancedance
@SuperLancevancedance Год назад
I really enjoy the 1/2 V8 badge, it's quite amusing xD.
@hadimos6109
@hadimos6109 Год назад
3:03 bro a 44 mpg this is prius not a muscle car
@Raphael-vh1wv
@Raphael-vh1wv Год назад
How did you supercharged the engine ?
@xXxDeamonlordxXx
@xXxDeamonlordxXx Год назад
What about a Big Block V2?^^ Is it possible to design that in Automation?
@talesteixeira4664
@talesteixeira4664 Год назад
unfortunately no, at least not the vanilla game
@adamdion7574
@adamdion7574 Год назад
Holy hell that intro made me burst out laughing 😂it already sounds like absolute horse shit, now three of em together lol
@sirwilliam677
@sirwilliam677 Год назад
High displacement V4 next?
@KitKitChanIsaac
@KitKitChanIsaac Год назад
Twincharged version when?
@mattt198654321
@mattt198654321 Год назад
1/2 V8!! Love it
@Andy47357
@Andy47357 Год назад
give the na a one a bigger cam and compression and redo the test. you basically just made a 662ci vs 331 ci test. boost basically doubles the displacement equivalent
@J-STX5469
@J-STX5469 Год назад
Bruh, the torque band in the lower RPMs of the turbo-4 big block just dropped on the standing mile run.
@lorddoobsworth144
@lorddoobsworth144 Год назад
looks like the N/A and turbo cars were shifting gears at too high of a RPM, making the average power across each gear lower than it should have been
@lionsheart9406
@lionsheart9406 Год назад
We need same test, but n/a 500hp engine.
@sk8er9379
@sk8er9379 Год назад
I was curious why the turbo and Supercharger models didn't have the same PSI of boost
@braziliansheetbox2497
@braziliansheetbox2497 Год назад
Supercharger rob power to run
@evilinside5984
@evilinside5984 Год назад
I think this sim. was making sure that both boosted setups had the same Hp. Since the supercharger takes power to spin it, it takes more boost to make the same power. It seems this sim., was showing how different the power bands are, and how that translated into performance stats. The turbo is the most efficient, but its tip in throttle response is the worst, and has Lag. If the same boost was used, and you could keep the turbo in its sweet spot/power band, it would be best, but it is the most finicky.
@jacksonanderson1624
@jacksonanderson1624 Год назад
Do a big block V6 next
@justsomecoronaviruswithint1897
@justsomecoronaviruswithint1897 10 месяцев назад
They sound almost exactly like my boat engine 3 L MerCruiser four-cylinder
@MyHandleIsGood
@MyHandleIsGood Год назад
Ecoboost hitting hard
@coldeggs2953
@coldeggs2953 Год назад
Could you possibly do a video for the suzuki baleno? Would like to see what my first car can pull in there
@Raphael-vh1wv
@Raphael-vh1wv Год назад
Could you put the car on the repo please only if you can/ want ? 😅
@RasyaArayaPriagana
@RasyaArayaPriagana Год назад
hey mustard how did you make the turbo diesel bastion car?
@joeykliniski3336
@joeykliniski3336 Год назад
Nice
@Nopox_
@Nopox_ Год назад
Isn't the supercharger not yet in Automation ?
@maxicant
@maxicant Год назад
Where can i find some decent quality car mods? The ones i get look so bleek
@Slow.S55
@Slow.S55 Год назад
Reminds me of GM 4.3 v6
@RATTL3R186
@RATTL3R186 Год назад
Why does the supercharger get 21 psi and the turbo 18.8? Why not 21 psi for the turbo. Just asking.
@ForgottenMustard
@ForgottenMustard Год назад
Supercharger is mechanically driven so it takes power from the engine. It needs to produce more boost to make the same power.
@dreadnaught688
@dreadnaught688 Год назад
​@ForgottenMustard why did you decide to match power instead of matching boost? That kind of takes away the only inherent advantage that a turbo motor has.
@newlphd
@newlphd Год назад
But Why has the turbo engine 211hp without Turbo and the sc and normal Engine have Stock 277hp ?
@skogen5357
@skogen5357 Год назад
i wish you could make your videos in metric aswell
@emperorofwarusthundus
@emperorofwarusthundus Год назад
How did you put a blower into that?
@kool-aidman5828
@kool-aidman5828 Год назад
Why don’t more car makers do this? Would get fuel efficiency and horsepower, for the sacrifice of a smoother and better sounding car.. I would make that sacrifice just so long as it’s reliable and easy to maintain
@holomatic1549
@holomatic1549 Год назад
You answered yourself, because its reliable and easy to maintain; if the thing doesn't fail, it doesn't need replacements, you lose a future customer.
@kool-aidman5828
@kool-aidman5828 Год назад
@@holomatic1549 I understand plan obsolescence smh
@saturn6644
@saturn6644 Год назад
What's that UI app on the top that measures your quarter mile time called?
@ForgottenMustard
@ForgottenMustard Год назад
www.beamng.com/resources/distance-timer.19669/
@saturn6644
@saturn6644 Год назад
@@ForgottenMustard Thanks.
@viliryynanen8655
@viliryynanen8655 Год назад
Make v4 engine
@Sau1-g00dman
@Sau1-g00dman Год назад
First
@nacerskats
@nacerskats Год назад
This is so ohio
@AllDayBlazer89
@AllDayBlazer89 Год назад
Big block 4 cyclinder 😂😂😂
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