Big Dan's Airguns: .25 FAC Webley Patriot review. 

I have, in storage with my father back in N. Ireland, a .22 Webly Patriot. It is an FAC air rifle rated at 32ft/lb. It broke 2 stocks, snapped 8 forward mounting screws and shook the crosshairs out of 4 scopes in the first 10 years. Absolutely no regrets. None whatsoever. Still love it.

I love the old webley proper gun. Bazz is a top man he has helped me out so much . Nice one Dan

I had a Webley tracker deluxe and it was beautiful and shot like a dream dropping rabbits at 60 yards

I'm 50 and I still love the spring rifles. That glossy stock takes me back to the 80s. Great days. Thanks buddy great vid. Subscribed. Ps always remember webleys were great in the 80s.

MAAAANNNN! What a beauty!!! Loved this video and it took me back in time to when I dreamed of one as well.

I own a beeman Kodiak 25 caliber air rifle the same Rifle as your patriot with a beeman ss22 japan optics 4x short scope and I love it ! Purchased it years ago in the late eighties from 10 ring air rifle shop now out of business and still can’t believe it is still accurate and original with no modifications ! It is a sledgehammer at pest game up to 50 yards ! Will never sell it ! Mine still works and looks like new !

Looks like a real rifle and handles like one. Superb workmanship with quality materials. Shot one here in the States. Dominated everything else on the range for sheer power, this was in early 90's. The heft and power gives you a superior feeling. Good review, Dan.

It still beautiful very good hitting power as well dan you are very lucky to shoot this air rifle

I bought one of these about 1995. Still have. It's a heavy large gun! Mine is immaculate. Always preferred my R1 but it works well on grouse

Brings back some good memories Dan. Back in the day my mate had the exact same gun while I had the Theoben Eliminator in .22. Endless debates and arguments. Best wishes from Northern Ireland.

That Webley is a beast! I love it.

Great review as we have come to expect from yourself sir. Looks to be a heavy old bundhook but as you say well made and nice looking. Thanks for your hard work in doing a review of one of your wish list guns from the past. A great way to vary your channel moving from top of the range to budget to blasts from the past historic guns. Great video again thanks Dan.

What a Beauty and Beast at the same time.

Great review

Great review as usual. I managed to get a 30lbs, . 25 Patriot just before Covid and spent many hours with it, takes a lot of practice to get results but totally awesome fun. Best bit is when you shoot any other gun after, whether air rifle, 22lr or even full bore, they seem so easy. 100% quality.

Aah, nice to see that rifle again. I owned it for a couple of years before selling it to Baz to free my ticket up. Great review and what you say is right, you do need a firmer grip on the forend to keep accuracy. Heavy,yes and a bit cumbersome but proper build quality of yester year. Glad you love it.

Great video and what a beautiful gun Dan 👍🏻

I have one and its super accurate , it is violent to fire though and has broken the trigger and the safety in my use, finish is superb, mine is .22 and weighs a ton compared to any other air rifle I've seen, its also massive! the trigger is really controllable and easily adjusted although the use of puter or pot metal for the trigger and safety have let this gun down, other than that and the glued on barrel weight moderator attachment, they are very nice indeed and I don't regret having it.

Definitely a thing of beauty..great vid as always … back in the day I would have chosen the patriot 👍🏻

I'd love to have that rifle. Great power and awesome bluing.

I'd always wondered how the Patriot would perform and as you've shown, it does it bloody well .

I love the old Webleys. I fancied the Omega back in the 80's but bought a Weirhauch 77 instead & loved it. I did get to shoot an Omega though & it was lovely . That Patriot though is a bloody sledge hammer & I'd love to spend an hour or two smashing things with it. Lol.

Had a Brum made Stingray .22,it had snapped at the pistol grip,it was in the £50 quid rfd bin as it was carbine I bought it. Couldnt hit a thing on the range felt like the spring had snapped really low recoil. Put 2 opposing wood screws in it and it started to perform at 10m,took the stock off to perform spring surgery and it had a gas ram in it. Put it ovee the chrono an it was on 11.9 ftlb with jsb heavy 18g 11.6 with 16g and it was as accurate as the ultra I had at the time. Beautiful finish,better than the weihrauch and I think the trigger was equal. That Patriot though what a beast,great review

Nice review Dan!,This is the Real British made Churchill tank of a gun! used as a hunting Rifle if the pellet don't dispatch it first time you need glasses lol

Glad you enjoyed that old Patriot, I was with Ben Taylor years ago, the Eliminators could go a bit higher than Patriot but it was too much I had a Dual Magnum too later on, Ben gave me it, nice at 26ftlb but bloody awful at 38ftlb lol, good video mate

Thanks Dan for the trip down memory lane. Any chance of more of the same?

i had one bought it new a fac .25 (the best caliber for the patriot), used the same orignal pellets 35 grain as in the shin sun career 707,it was very accurat with it . sold it , thought get a new one , but they where no longer made .got then a hw 90 fac theoben ,and this was a smoother and as accurat gun , i stil have it . like springers , the strongest i got is a hatsan carnivore .30.(magnum patriot you could say) but i do not go for energy output anymore, thats where a pcp is king

A rifle i have wanted for ages did find an american company that did a 25 ftp gas ram for this say no more.have a good weekend sir ps the germans send there regards

Patriot is a mix of other older guns eclipse, omega, and the.... 25 is a cracking cal but my 80,25 will out run it😁👍love the old springers and as for the cylinder on the patriot shares the eclipse piston which is 28 like the HW80.... As for accuracy my 80 loves HandN... Excellent review mate

Beautiful rifle. Such a shame webley don’t make stuff like this anymore.

Oooooofda, what a hammer. Perhaps it is a great option for a back door pester (to easily handle many critters known for raiding the trash). .25 in a magnum springer seems like a fun option, and I'm looking forward to taking delivery of the .25 fenix 400 I recently ordered. I have a .22 currently that gets 15-16 ft pounds (at 5,000 foot elevation, which I believe knocks off 15%-20% vs sea level). So I am expecting maybe 16-18 ft/lbs in .25 and hopefully a nice, smooth, accurate shooter. I'm glad you mainly stick with the springers, they are definitely not going out of style anytime soon. Cheers

I have a .177 omega which is basically the forerunner to the patriot in looks and function/trigger but is sub 12 designed with a barrel lock, the trigger is so nice I've adjusted it so the second stage breaks with so little effort its amazing.

The Battle Scars are a beautiful. 👍

Hi dan. I think you should try and do the balance test when the rifle is cocket. The weight of te piston and compressed spring will shift to the back and change the balance point. Grtz. Love your reviews

no Tractors were harmed in the making of the program......

I love the .25 in an air rifle. I own the Hatsan mod 95 in .25, Hatsan mod 105x Underlever .25 and the beast mod 125 THC ,25. they are 22FPE ,25FPE and 34FPE

Love the uk made ones, im own .22 soon uk fac. Qualty same as mine theoben eliminator the barrel lock is so good

Marmite! Always thought this was Webley trying to match the HW 80 in some sort of way, love webleys don't get me wrong the mutts nutts when I was a kid but I recon the swan song has sang? ! Another great vid Dan thanks for you time!

Great video Dan as always mate, that is one hell of beast rifle, and you could tell ya luved every second using it Cheers, oh will you be doing a review of rainson sky , ??? 👌👌👌👍👍👍👍

Got a .22 last year in mint condition, you ar right, the blueing is exeptionel, only my tx200 and walther LGU have this kind of blueing, its like a layer of enamel

Lovely gun brings back memories from over forty years ago, I only wish that I had kept all of my air guns from "back in the day" what is the actual weight Dan 8 1/2 lbs at a guess!

Beast

Beeman marketed it as the "Crow Magnum" i bought one in the early 90s...very powerful...about 30 ft pounds.

Nice rifle

Nice review bud, might send you my mark 1 Tx200 to review if you fancy it mate 👍

I wonder if the front being a touch heavy is keeping that recoil down? Love the length of the barrel and it is proper for the power this gun is putting out. Nice rifle! If memory serves me…that is the same performance that a CB .22 rimfire round puts out or very very close to it.👍

Webley listen to Dan he knows what he's on about!! Bring a sub 12 Patriot out for the masses. And a Webley Omega for me aswell 😁

my only comment that cheeky little chuckle when the can jumped , you are a man CHILD

yea'you're right

Hi Dan great video mate what a cracking rifle, proper Webley quality at its best. Seeing as you’re going to do a kral test can you throw a .22 mortal in the mix?, cheers Dan.👍🇬🇧

I had a few webleys, a Vulcan when I was kid then a tracker and I thought they were great right up until I bought a weihrauch and from that day forward I thought they were poor quality and never looked at them ever again! But looking back I had hours of fun with them

Webley & Scott Is the Best aire rifle from englandyou know 😊😊 yes he Is an Green Beretta soldier 😊😊

It's one of the rifles that you WILL regret if you ever sell yours.

Sandwell Field Sports what are the best gun tuners in the country definitely up there with the top three

if you wanted to get smoother take it sunwell Field Sports and get a tune in done on it it'd be like a PCP when it comes back

Like yourself, I love springers and this was a really nice one to review. I rather like some of the old tap loaders, but you don't see many like that anymore. I'm realising lately that pcp's are very much dominating the market and virtually every time I see one being used, it's from a rest and the shooter doesn't seem to get anywhere near the experience of firing a springer. They seem boring and expensive to me. I'm being tempted by an HW 57 lately, but I'm a bit put off by the twang. Any thought on those?

I like the bullpen pcp guns but the Webley gun looks like a rifle should, handles like a rifle should and shoots like a rifle should. Class and power together.

Hi Dan. I've been gifted a Webley stingray British version in ok condition whatsyour thoughts on these as can't find much about them. Thanks Steve.

how's the accuracy with the lead free at the greater distances, Dan?

It does ooze qualify

Its been re blued at some point tnats anfact anwonder what makes this 25 ft lbs as its the same size as the standard sub 12ft lbs so,what makes this that high power spring ? Its nkt just a casemof sticking a fac spring in i still cant see how they get them so high ?

Dan a birmingham patriot in .177 for sale at holts £90. that will probably need it's neck winding in a bit they come up regular at that price, I would not pay more. There was a bloke in the states tunning them to a useable 38 ftp, according to him shot better than standard you would need to suck it to see.There are a couple of vids he put out.

Cuantos joules de potencia da ! La patriot!! Está más potente que la Cometa????

Hi it is any sense to make review to Artimis p35 ? Thenk you all the best

ps can i get you to tune my triggers before collection. cheers fella

Let's hope that when you used to look at the webly poster on your bedroom wall, your pants were still up... Then there's nothing to worry about :)

Nice rifle, needs a bit of ❤ , 😁🤣👍

Have you ever fired a Theoben Eliminator ?

Your not wrong about quality on the webleys i have the omega carbine 177 Sandwell tuned its my favourite gun i have . over engineered that's why the word is they lost money on every airgun that went through the factory door. That could be true probably why they have gone bloody shame

I like to buy f nice price sir ..!!

As you said you would like a 12ft/lb Patriot, they existed and are around, the Omega. I have owned both, but swapped the Patriot for a Theoben Eliminator as the build quality is equal plus the power is easily adjustable to suit conditions .

webleys long gon that's why it's no longer made in Birmingham pretty sure it's all Chinese importner with their name on it I did have a place here because it's only place you can get the s16 serviced

How mutch this unit sir .?

Foot/pound not 'feet/pound'. You are getting muzzle velocity confused with kinetic energy. Actually the rifle didn't sound too twangy but these were known to respond well to wee bit of judicious tuning or even gas piston conversion.

The automatic safety would be so much better if it wasn't automatic.....like a BSA

Shot one 20.yrs ago, not worth putting on a ticket.

Oooo nothing but audio, is this a podcast?

god - I was getting light headed waiting for this guy to stop talking long enough to take a breath

How mutch in Riyal ..??

This thing kicks like a mule.

There's one in my local rfd love one but need a fac

Dangerous to meet your heroes.

Doesn't seem like a good idea to have the swivel on the barrel

HW95ish i think.

Nice vid Dan. What you think to the Hatsan Carnivore .30 springer. FAC. Could you do a review an 1 of those. Just asking for a friend who shoots paper @10 meters

Needs tune and cleen

Its crap