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Big Green Egg New Style Band Installation 

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Replaced the old style hinge with the new.

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@JamesBurgin-m2d
@JamesBurgin-m2d 5 часов назад
Great video! This retooled my 13-year-old egg.
@traviskaspar5481
@traviskaspar5481 Месяц назад
Thanks for the tutorial. I finally upgraded to the new hinge and zero underbite is a beautiful thing.
@MsMayamonster
@MsMayamonster 3 месяца назад
Followed your video step by step. Install came out perfect! Thx Jay!
@thomasbirmingham4371
@thomasbirmingham4371 2 года назад
Mate, I’m sending you profound thanks from Australia. That video on the BGE site was worse than hopeless. You saved my Egg.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Those egg videos are useless! Glad I was able to keep you rolling smoke!
@maxboykin6410
@maxboykin6410 Год назад
Green Egg owner for 10 years. I have changed bands a few times and always wondered if doing things correctly. Awesome video with practical instructions. Thanks
@alisonclark7540
@alisonclark7540 Год назад
All I can say is thank you!! Your step by step instructions are excellent and I rewound the video or stopped it many times throughout the installation process. If BGE is going to write instructions with an “Ikea” style photo, they need to hire a better artist. Without this video I would have stared at it with zero success.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
Glad to help out!
@bobs9758
@bobs9758 Год назад
I just upgraded my large BGE to the new band system following your method and the supplied instructions. It was a huge help being able to watch your video before attempting it. Great job.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
Thank you!
@bobellison2547
@bobellison2547 3 года назад
Thank you very much. The new bands finally came back in stock this week and your excellent step-by-step tutorial will all the insights of someone that has done it before was of great assistance to me. I wish I could hit 'like' more than once!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Thank you very much! I glad I’ve been able to help so many people.
@rickbarton2457
@rickbarton2457 2 года назад
Nice job! The only thing missing from the video was a cold beer! I too appreciated the step-by-step instructions with insights where the written instructions failed to clarify. Thank you for making this video!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad to help out!
@williamwhaley2771
@williamwhaley2771 2 года назад
Jay - you are the man. This saved me a lot of time rather than trying to follow the confusing instructions that came with the new band hinge assembly.Thanks so much for the video.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad I could help you out!
@jhancock4333
@jhancock4333 Год назад
Jay, you are the man! I wasted two hours until I found your video. Thanks so much.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
Glad I could help!
@FlynPig911
@FlynPig911 2 года назад
Great demonstration and explanation on using the spacers and installation.
@curtiseh
@curtiseh 2 года назад
Great video and great camera work by your young cameraman! This video was very detailed and you took the time to explain EACH step! I will be using this video today as I replace the old box hinge assembly to hopefully correct this ongoing overbite issue. Thanks again.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad to help! I’ll pass the kind words along to my cameraman!
@anthonygadaleta9324
@anthonygadaleta9324 2 года назад
Jay You, Sir, are a great teacher. Your instructions and approach helped me perform this task right, the first time. Thank you very much
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Thank you very much!
@steveball2638
@steveball2638 3 года назад
Thank you for taking the time to make this video. After 10 years of using my BGE I need to replace the hinge and this video is very helpful.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Thank you!
@glenkuhl9349
@glenkuhl9349 8 месяцев назад
Just finished replacing the band on my large egg. Your video made it so much easier...thank you!
@gerardpowers9134
@gerardpowers9134 Год назад
Great video! Thank-you for sharing. A ratchet spanner would have saved you a great deal of time.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
Thanks for the positive comment. I don’t mind how long it take as I’m retired. Plus they tend to get hung up as the bolt bends.
@jasonroberts9229
@jasonroberts9229 2 года назад
Watched a few vids while I hunted down a large hinge kit, not easy...Came back to this one as my install guide. Simple, direct, well explained. Thanks, Jay.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad I could help you out!
@craigguinn5423
@craigguinn5423 7 месяцев назад
Pretty helpful, got mine done today. Instructions are crap. If you leave the band screws off, you don’t need to remove the top.
@picster9990
@picster9990 2 года назад
This was an outstanding and very helpful video! I followed your presentation step by step and replaced the bands on a LARGE and and X-LARGE BGE this past weekend and your approach was simple, straightforward, and easy to follow. Thanks... the instructions were basically duty paper and it would have been a struggle without this video. #ApplauseAndManyThanks
@caleb7428
@caleb7428 3 года назад
Thanks for the detailed video! I replaced mine today and watching this first was a major help.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Hope it helped!
@jeffreysheftsd.c.5583
@jeffreysheftsd.c.5583 2 года назад
I am a newbee to the "Egg" universe and your tutorial on installing the new style band saved me so much time. Thank you so much.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad to help!
@tomtacheny
@tomtacheny 3 года назад
Thank you Jay! I've been trying to get my new bands adjusted properly for a few months. I "get" how the new bands work now thanks to you.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad to help!
@czarroman
@czarroman 2 года назад
Great tips. When the kit came it looked overwhelming. Your video allowed me to remove the old one (which broke in the middle of cooking 2 Boston butts) and replace in about 1 hour. And I did not have to repeat any steps. Thank you.
@bradheins3554
@bradheins3554 3 года назад
Great job on your step by step video I installed a new hinge on a 6 yr old BGE just now, watching the video as I assembled mine,Thank you
@billhicks4926
@billhicks4926 8 месяцев назад
Very helpful video, thank you for posting. The new style band is WAY better than the old which was much more difficult to work with.
@geraldschwartz5941
@geraldschwartz5941 2 года назад
Many thanks for your video. I watched it today and it made replacing the hinge and bands on my 8 year old large BGE much easier!
@SacOrcas
@SacOrcas 3 года назад
Thanks for the instructional vid. Just brought home a BGE that belonged to my wife's family from decades ago. Trying to refurbish it...this helps a lot!
@charlesbryan3005
@charlesbryan3005 2 года назад
Excellent video. I plan to go buy new bands tomorrow and install them on my 20 year old large Big Green Egg. I am sure I will come back to this video for help! Thanks very much.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad to help out!!
@charlesbryan3005
@charlesbryan3005 2 года назад
Installed new bands this morning….with your video close by. Everything worked as you demonstrated. Replaced the gasket and nest as part of the project. My 20 year old Big Green Egg is like new again!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Outstanding! I’m going to make a gasket replacement video one of these days.
@bigtee94
@bigtee94 3 года назад
Best explanation of how to change and align the band. This has been a struggle of mine for almost 10 years. This video made it simple. Thanks!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@bstigleman
@bstigleman Год назад
Thanks for the great video! You probably saved me 2 hours plus a trip to confession for all swear words I would have said trying to figure this out on my own.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
You’re welcome!
@SK-ry6bg
@SK-ry6bg Месяц назад
Excellent video!
@craig7887
@craig7887 Год назад
My hero! I just put on the new band and handle and this wss really helpful! Thank you!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
Thanks!
@keithburks4753
@keithburks4753 2 года назад
Thanks ordered a new hinge assembly for my XL. Will be replacing the gasket and installing the new hinge and bands the next day or two. Video is a big help.
@allantz7309
@allantz7309 7 месяцев назад
Replaced mine yesterday. Your video was extremely helpful. Thanks.
@jtrt1
@jtrt1 3 года назад
Great video. Thanks for taking the time. I'm ready to do mine now!!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
You’re welcome!
@kennethanchors3156
@kennethanchors3156 3 года назад
Really wished I had watched this first. The instructions are vague at best. We now have it sealed and it works great. Thank you!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@gerardburke8605
@gerardburke8605 2 года назад
Thank you Jay. Following your video made this very straight forward. BGE should hire you to do their installation videos 😁
@tixiepoo
@tixiepoo 11 месяцев назад
So incredibly helpful! Thank you!!!!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 9 месяцев назад
Glad it was helpful!
@SouLShakeRProdX
@SouLShakeRProdX Год назад
Thank you!! Worked perfect
@mhmobley
@mhmobley 3 года назад
Thanks, Jay! Replaced the bands on my 16 year old egg this morning. Your video was great. Happy thanksgiving!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
You’re welcome! Happy Thanksgiving!
@jeffbatl
@jeffbatl 3 года назад
Great video. appreciate that you filmed the entire process
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Thanks, hope it helps!
@richardzielinski4930
@richardzielinski4930 3 года назад
Watched it twice, watch as I assembled… it took me more then 28 minutes but great video to follow…no more gaps…fairly straightforward and far superior then the instructions in the box! Thank You!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad it helped!
@alananderson4807
@alananderson4807 2 года назад
Hey Jay. Just want to say thanks for your video and how you explained every step. I just got the bands for my 21 year old egg to replace the old, old style bands! I put the bands on using the instructions, but it didn't seem quite right. I didn't use the spacers correctly and left those extra fasteners that go on the front of the bottom band off completely, so that may have been why it leaked smoke. I came to RU-vid and found your video and have completely re-installed, so fingers crossed, no leaks when I fire it up. Oh, those dimple markers on the top and bottom, I had no idea that was to line the top and bottom half, so I didn't bother lining them up the first time. Thanks again!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad I could help!
@edwarderickson3000
@edwarderickson3000 3 года назад
Good job. I just followed along this morning and it looks great.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@coffdvm
@coffdvm 2 года назад
Got it done but don’t think I coulda done it without this video ….Thanks
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad to help!!!
@underbj
@underbj 3 года назад
Excellent video sir! Just got done with my new band install and your video was a big help.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@jimhottle1694
@jimhottle1694 3 года назад
Great video...thank you....I watched it and then went step by step with you as I did mine.
@JohnJohn-nz7kb
@JohnJohn-nz7kb Год назад
thanks Jay !! great video it helped with the upgrade to my 22 year old large BGE
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
Awesome glad to help! Egg on!
@keithlambert6217
@keithlambert6217 3 года назад
Really, really well done tutorial of the entire process.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Thanks!
@chaddombeck
@chaddombeck 2 года назад
This video was very helpful, appreciate it. As a gift, can I send you a 7/16 socket set? 🤣
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
Thanks! The reason I use a wrench and not a socket is as the bolt bends it can catch the socket and make it nearly impossible to remove.
@gregmorton6422
@gregmorton6422 21 день назад
Ratchet wrench
@germarsweb
@germarsweb Год назад
Thank you so much. Great video and good angles to see every step.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
Thank you very much!
@jimivey9265
@jimivey9265 3 года назад
Great video, I was about doing this and you made the step by step process easy to follow
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Thanks!
@evanthorne7136
@evanthorne7136 2 года назад
Very well done and extremely helpful. Thank you for doing!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Thank you!
@craighorve4127
@craighorve4127 3 года назад
Excellent video. Thank you for the tutorial Especially the extra screw. Was pulling my hair out..
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
You’re welcome!
@rafereaves462
@rafereaves462 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. My kit did not have instructions, so, this was a great instructional video.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad it helped!
@webbcolegrove5309
@webbcolegrove5309 2 года назад
Thank you. Seeing it done is very helpful.. No directions in my box with new bands..Bought a new gasket also. I’ll be changing that first while top is off. Than installing new style bands/hinge.
@glennbaker
@glennbaker 3 года назад
Thanks for the detailed instructions. Very helpful!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
You’re welcome!
@jennifernickerson182
@jennifernickerson182 2 года назад
Thank you! Was struggling and you were most helpful
@kenjohnsen8566
@kenjohnsen8566 3 года назад
Great video. Thanks for taking the time for all the explanations
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad to help!
@tonyarnold4399
@tonyarnold4399 3 года назад
Great video. Replacing mine this afternoon!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Hope it helped make the process easier!
@user-ls7ku3dp1k
@user-ls7ku3dp1k Год назад
Great video. It would have been very tough without it. Thanks!
@JeffFitlow
@JeffFitlow 3 года назад
Great video. So much better than instructions for BGE.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Thanks!
@bobamburn7081
@bobamburn7081 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. I had my hinges upside down. Probably should've started BEFORE Friday afternoon and 2 beers. Nice hat, by the way.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Thanks! Love Joe!!!
@JoshReimann
@JoshReimann 2 года назад
Good work man! This was very helpful. I love my BGE but they need to work on instructions. This is great!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Glad I could help!
@edgein3299
@edgein3299 3 года назад
Helped me out a lot.
@obaame0307
@obaame0307 3 года назад
Purchased band assembly yesterday from our local dealer. Not happy w the price, but oh well what can we do. Turned it into a project with son and I and got to spend some quality time w him on the installation of the band. We went ahead and and replaced the gaskets due to overbite/underbite being so bad. Used your video as a quick reference guide and it was a breeze. Appreciate your video sir!!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@mikeymike9616
@mikeymike9616 7 месяцев назад
Happy Holidays! I know your comment was 2yrs ago, but how much did the new style band assembly kit cost?
@obaame0307
@obaame0307 7 месяцев назад
My memory is not the greatest, but I'd say around $125 roughly. I've had zero issues since installing it. @@mikeymike9616
@26chrisb
@26chrisb 3 года назад
A really useful instructional video in 'real-time'. Thanks v much
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Hope it helped!
@glenbowman1167
@glenbowman1167 3 года назад
Thank you!! Great video...so easy to follow along!!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@andynesbitt8242
@andynesbitt8242 3 года назад
Thank you for this video! It helped me a lot!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad it helped!
@bodydenny
@bodydenny 3 года назад
Ridiculously informative. Thanks!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Hope it makes it easy!
@getech
@getech 3 года назад
good video, thanks!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Thanks!
@carysilverman1517
@carysilverman1517 3 года назад
Dude, thank you so much for this video. Extremely informative and helpful. I'm about to tackle this on my 12 year old XL this weekend and I desperately wanted to see someone do it. Again, thanks for sharing this.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad to help! Let me know if you have any questions.
@jimmartini77
@jimmartini77 Год назад
I wish I had seen your video before I put mine together. I would have saved a lot of aggravation and uncertainty.
@TDRUSH3000
@TDRUSH3000 3 года назад
Thank you! Very helpful...
@garybryan3846
@garybryan3846 9 месяцев назад
Great video
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@sergiomartinez6668
@sergiomartinez6668 3 года назад
Really helped me thank you
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
You’re welcome!
@tridogdude1512
@tridogdude1512 2 месяца назад
Good video. There's no reason to remove the dome though. The new assembled bands will slip right over the top.
@ronc6166
@ronc6166 3 года назад
Thanks for showing this
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad I could help.
@themercilessming
@themercilessming 5 месяцев назад
Thank you
@DavidGurrney7589
@DavidGurrney7589 Год назад
Great job!!! I know it's asking the impossible and I know most dont have one but torque specks on those bolt would be nice🔧🔧🔧🔧
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
I asked egg about that. Their reply way to make sure the bolts are bent. I agree with you but that’s the answer I got…
@barbarabauman1129
@barbarabauman1129 2 года назад
Thank you now we see if we can do it
@alexalvesjr
@alexalvesjr 3 года назад
Thank you!!!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
You’re welcome! Glad I could help!
@GeoHvl
@GeoHvl 9 месяцев назад
My Egg turn 17. I replaced the old style hinge and bands with the new assembly. The lid no longer opens completely as it did with the old hinge. I guess I’ll get use to it. I replaced the Nomex while I was doing this.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 9 месяцев назад
That’s part of the redesign. Keeps the lid from falling out if the bands aren’t tight enough.
@wwfgumby
@wwfgumby 2 года назад
Thanks for the video, it helped when I changed my Large BGE over to the new set but I'm trying to work out why there are aligment holes when first placing the lid back on. If I line mine up, the temp gauge is off centre and it doesn't look right.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
I would align the temp gauge hole with the mark on the bottom.
@PRBB25
@PRBB25 3 года назад
Thanks for sharing,
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Hope it helped!
@indialanticrob508
@indialanticrob508 3 года назад
Thank you.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad I could help!
@MyPawesomeFrenchie
@MyPawesomeFrenchie Год назад
I’m changing my band to the new one, but I need to do my gasket too. Should I change my gasket before my band assembly ?
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 Год назад
I would. Much easier to change when it’s completely disabled.
@reffan2204
@reffan2204 11 месяцев назад
Great video...Why you put the springs in upside down? If you put them in the other way, they fall out when there is no tension on them. Thanks for the video.
@tedvenhorst1816
@tedvenhorst1816 2 года назад
Jay…. Where did you get that nice grill grate on your green egg. Seems wider than anything I’ve seen?! Thanks Ted
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
It’s the Big Green Egg cast iron grate.
@megcockrell4135
@megcockrell4135 3 года назад
Hey Jay! Just picked up a new BGE which came pre-assembled. Super excited to break it in! Question..I noticed the logo on the lid is not centered with the handle and couldn’t quite tell if you had the same issue? Or do I need to adjust the alignment before I fire it up for the first time? Your video was very helpful and informative. Thank you!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. If it doesn’t leak the first time you use it, I’d probably leave it alone. You’ll be able to fix it at a later adjustment much easier to do then.
@eggnewbie5684
@eggnewbie5684 2 года назад
Hello Jay, if I have the side tables, at what point should I place them?
@robinoberg4228
@robinoberg4228 3 года назад
I bought the new assembly for my 1999 large bge. Your video is very helpful, thank you. Will the old style wood slat table mate attach to the new band?
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Yes the only change they made was the slats.
@jeffreysawchuk8024
@jeffreysawchuk8024 3 года назад
Thank you fir the video, I need to replace the bands on my BGE. The video will help. Only question I had is.... if BGE doesn’t send the spacers, how did you get them?
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
The spacers should be included but if they’re not your dealer should have some. When I was working at Ace we always had a few extra sets just in case someone needed them.
@alpacamybag2946
@alpacamybag2946 3 года назад
Thanks!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Hope it helped!
@alpacamybag2946
@alpacamybag2946 3 года назад
@@adventureswithjayusa9570 Planning to do this on my next day off ,along with new gasket. This is really helpful!
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Glad to help!
@kevinbell1785
@kevinbell1785 3 года назад
Jay, which thermometer do you have on your set-up? That thing is huge! My Egg is about 20 years old, small thermometer, and so clouded I can barely read it anymore.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
It was the first thing I upgraded! A few years ago Egg’s started coming with the 3”. Here’s a link to them. biggreenegg.com/product/oversized-temp-gauge/
@mikeymike9616
@mikeymike9616 3 года назад
Great video Jay. How did you get the new style hinge? Was it free of charge?
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
There shouldn’t be any more old hinges in stock anymore. However as soon as I say that someone will find one! They’re available from BGE on the page but I would suggest going to your dealer. Thanks!
@lbeckons304
@lbeckons304 4 года назад
I had to redo mine earlier today, somehow when the store assembled it the hinges were not on correctly, this video would have been helpful. When all the way open do your top gasket touch the hinges?
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 4 года назад
LBeckons no they should not. I think you might ave the bands to close together. However that is a guess without pics.
@kennethanchors3156
@kennethanchors3156 3 года назад
After using it a few times we have gaps again in the back. How should we try to correct this? Thanks for any help.
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 3 года назад
Loosen the upper band and use the spacers to readjust the top. MAKE SURE to remove the springs prior to any adjustments.
@Hamlocks
@Hamlocks 2 года назад
I was just opening my egg to remove my Easter brisket and the hinge fell apart, what a predicament lol, where can I get the new style hinge? XL egg
@adventureswithjayusa9570
@adventureswithjayusa9570 2 года назад
Ace hardware is my go to.
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