i bet they didn’t even notice that nate is actually a really good chess player. it’s a small detail, but it’s one of the only things he’s able to be good at
As someone who reads the comics and novels a lot, I can say Nate is very very out of character in the show and yet in-character in other ways. It's rather fascinating to compare the two.
Honestly this is why this show is such a fascinating marvel to me, as someone who probably knows too much about the books. Its not fitting at all, but also has plenty of moments of it working. I really cannot tell if I like or hate this show.
@@hiruyabebaw807 Nate's partially in-character because he's still pervy. In the comic strips, he had a crush on the fictional fanservice-y superheroine 'Femme Fatality'.
@@animalkid4001 I did enjoy Captain Underpants the movie in the Animated Series despite the fact I never read the books I'm curious what is the movie and TV series faithful to the books or was it different
The show doesn't look bad, but as someone who loved reading big nate as a kid I can't see myself getting into the show, but it's something my little brother would like since he's not familiar with big nate
It's kinda the How To Train Your Dragon dilemma. The How to Train Your Dragon films are some of the absolute worst book to movie adaptations ever in the sense that the only things carried over is the series' title and some superficial names but basically nothing else. Might as well be called Somewhat Friendly Dragons although I will say they don't shit all over the source material like other adaptations. And yet like this, they're good as standalone products.
Whenever I see this show, I’m immediately reminded of the Garfield Show (the CGI show, not the original 80s one). The plots are way more extravagant and crazy and the comedy is definitely more in your face and slapsticky rather than the more laid-back, sarcastic style of the comics. Overall, not the worst show, but the people are going to get the most out of it are kids who will grow up watching this and get oddly nostalgic of it 10 years later.
That’s actually a really good comparison but like Im just impressed that nick didn’t make a mean spirited cringe fest that just sucks all of the charm with hip how do you do fellow kids that the resent comics tend to have especially since the loud house is in there this show is honestly so far pretty fun and at first I wasn’t ok with nates voiced actor being an adult since even drama rama has kids voice actors but now that I know that is so that the characters can sing I’m actually impressed with that detail
I do think that The Garfield Show was a lot more accurate to it's source material than Big Nate is. The characters still keep their respective personalities, such as Garfield still being lazy and witty. Not to mention the wacky situations add it's own dimension to the show not exactly seen before, but still feel accurate to the Garfield franchise, which is important because Garfield has gone through a lot of evolutions, so it's important that this one should stick out. Very underrated show imo.
The show really have the weirdest CGI I've ever seen as well as the camera movements looked like if it was operated by a drone. That one episode where Garfield met his clone predicted the meme where the cat is an eldritch abomination.
Chester would honestly fit very well in the show, as his violent antics were already over the top. I remember in one comic he stuck Nate's entire body minus his head in a soda bottle
Holy shit I remember that. And he also ate a literal entire chicken, bones included. Edit: I also remember there was a restraining order on him and a few hospitalizations according to one of the teachers.
The comic where nate suggests Chester stand up straight so his knuckles don't drag on the ground then he ends up headfirst in a trash can talking about how even standing up chester's knuckles dragged
@@crinja404 I think not drawing Chester made his character better than if he did draw him. To me, not knowing what he looked like just made him even scarier. It makes sense that the author thought he would de too difficult to draw, since I myself can barely imagine what he would look like either. I feel like if he had an appearance, it would really dial down on his intimidation. But I guess that’s just me lol
Finally someone who gets Big Nate. I always related to Nate- which was especially rare with male protagonists because I was a girl- because I constantly got in trouble for doodling in class and being a total chatterbox. And I was also envious of how real Nate’s friend group seemed. Even as a kid I could grasp the concept of Nate typically over exaggerating Mrs. Godfrey’s “evilness” and Nate’s better qualities like how he would always stick up for his friends. And Nate may have not been entirely studious but he wasn’t god awful at school. He’s a master at chess, and when he able to be artistic with his assignments he tended to do great on them. This show just doesn’t seem to understand how all the characters relationships mesh together.
Yeah but those are rare exceptions most of the time Nate is lazy or procrastinates don’t get me wrong he can be creative during that time he was partners with Gina but other than that I woudnt say that he’s not awful like he was even in summer school
*reads end of comment* Then again, that is to be expected from the same company that would let Stephen Hillenburg die of ALS so they could finally defile his grave for money like Mr. Krabs with every Nicktoon that treats animation like a genre for kids like the Oscars and with every aggressively annoying Nickcom and even with every Nickelodeon Movie.
In my honest opinion, the show looks decent enough, but would have been better if it were either animated in 2D or released in 2003 instead of the 2020's
The creator of the comics was once offered by Lee Mendelson of Peanuts back when it first appeared on newspapers to develop an animated series for NBC, but unfortunately, many, if not all, of their Saturday morning cartoons got canned by the network which led to the animated series being in development hell for almost 30 years.
As someone who became a fan of the strips (not really the novels I only have a few), I gotta say it’s easier to take in the show if you treat it as like an alternate timeline/ universe, I still enjoy the show and I very much like the moments where in the background shots there’s moments of the trio just being stupid and hanging out but if you compare it to the actual strips/novel versions it’s pretty infuriating how the show interpreted the characters. I actually had more of a problem with DeeDee, she’s is a theater kid who is very passionate in acting and her arts, yes, but the way the show portrayed her is that she is capable of doing EVERYTHING that comes her way and that’s not it. Students and teachers cant tolerate her because she’s way too into acting and is over dramatic when she doesn’t need to be. She’s like the emotional standpoint of problems, but the way the show made her is that she is just good at everything and is more capable than the trio. I also really despise the way they went about writing Francis, Francis has nerdy traits but he is not the stereotypical nerd in the strips or novels, he can catch up to Nate and Teddy and isn’t physically incapable or weak, he literally partakes sports alongside Teddy and Nate to show this. The reason why I like Francis so much as a character because he managed to break the nerd stereotype but still keep it? Yes, he keeps this trivia book wherever he goes, knows the most useless information just because he thinks it’s fun learning it, and is just more logical/academically smart. But he literally joins in on banter and shows a more snarky/sarcastic side where he isn’t afraid to put his input in situations Nate comes up with. The trio is the literal definition of a friend group that consists of stupid middle school boys, and that’s how they’re supposed to be and Peirce did such a good job at showing that? To see Francis’ character butchered to pieces like this and see him fall into the “I’m scared of everything and I get nauseous at things that make me nervous” was such a disappointment to see. But other than characters falling into tropes and feeling out of character the show is generally funny and I’m glad that Peirce is able to have some input into the show’s writing as well that’s fun to see
Big Nate was probably the best "middle school" type book series from when I was growing up - even as a little kid I remember seeing that big Nate was quite a few steps above literally everything else I could get my hands on to read and I'm glad somebody has finally gone more in depth on why the novels were so great. With that said - I don't care how funny and witty the show is, or how well it executes It's animation or "new" personalities - It's still an adaptation. I'm so tired of people wanting to write their own stories and characters using pre-existing stuff, instead of making a new IP - they have to morph an old one into their own personal vision. Just make your own show - instead of changing virtually every character to fit your needs. It's an ADAPTATION, so write it like one instead of changing everything because you couldn't afford to pitch your own original show with all of your own characters. Great vid by the way, very on point :)
I get what you're saying but when you are adapting a series that's based on a comic book or graphic novel some things are going to change you can just take everything from a book and put it into a movie or TV series it doesn't always work like that sometimes you're going to have to change characters or settings
@@animezilla4486 I couldn't disagree more - you can have a character act and behave in the same way, have their friends retain the same chemistry they had from the books, and retain the same vibe and setting when you apply it to a show. If it's an adaptation you need to actually make it so - sure you can change what the story might be and the goal of the characters, but you can't just change the personalities and DNA of 70% of the characters. There is a difference between putting a character in a new situation and completely changing him or her all together. That's like if peter Jackson decided to make Gandalf all silly and stupid because he thought that would fit his movies better - you gotta stick to the source material - you can't just pick and choose which characters change completely and which ones stay the same.
@@SimeonJester it's important to stick to the source material your right but at the same time there is no such thing as a one hundred percent accurate of the source material true that Nate has changed very different from the comics whether that's a good or a bad thing depends on how people feel about that but most importantly how does the creator of Big Nate feels about it. Besides there are a lot of TV shows and movies based on graphic novels that remain faithful to the source material but at the same time I did change a few things
I can understand what this shows going for, and respect that it’s trying it’s own thing. But, for me, I just don’t care for any more of these over the top cartoons with this sort of humour, funny or not. I just want more of that grounded humour that makes use of character traits,l and flaws, while keeping a layer of humanity there that makes you care more about said characters. I remembered so much of why I loved Big Nate through this video, so thanks again for bringing me back to my childhood. (I say again since you did the same with your Middle School video years back.)
I really liked big nate as a kid, moreso than diary of a wimpy kid. I think it was my first time experiencing and understanding complex characters. Nate was somewhat of a trouble maker and wasn't always great in school, but i will forever remember the scene where nate gathered all his friends to defend chad from getting bullied, or when deedee started out as the annoying drama girl and ended up being a good friend to nate. Having a character being bad at one thing and good at another blew my little 10-year-old mind. Love the series and love this video!
I really preferred Nate to Greg. Greg is just a massive asshole with an ego complex who gets his friend in trouble to save his skin whereas Nate, while being a bit full of himself as well, has good intentions most of the time and his screwups are either coincidental or a side effect of something outside of his control screwing him up or placing him in a bad mindset.
About the plot where Nate became a writer: there was a plot in the comics where he wanted to write a romance novel because he heard they make a lot of money. It could have been a good reference
All I know about the show beforehand is that Randy’s voice sucks, and that there’s a lot of big Nate is sussy moments, so this should help figure out what the show is like
Happy 18th birthday Just Stop, Congrats for becoming a grown adult, The fact that you watched Santa, Inc. and Rick and Morty as a minor is slighty bizarre but very relatable with ages, The guy has a soul of steel.
Me and Just Stop are the same age, and depending on the month he was born, I might be older than him, and all I do is watch RU-vid and comment on videos.
Used to be a massive Big Nate fan when I was younger... this vid pretty much covered everything I felt about the show. I watched the clips on Nickelodeon's channel and it's definitely not _terrible_ , in fact I actually like the art style and thought some moments had pretty good writing/pacing. But it just feels like a completely different show that happens to be using the characters from Big Nate. Loved the comic because of its unique sense of humor (which even inspired mine to an extent), so when I saw that the show completely lacked that same charm I knew it wasn't for me.
As a Big Fan of the Big Nate Comic Series(No pun intended) I feel the Cartoon is pretty faithful to the characters like Dee Dee and Nate himself he’s cocky but has a Good Heart like in the comics and I like how Nate’s family get’s expanded on more in the show. And yeah sure not all the jokes land and can be a bit weird. I can appreciate the show for being it’s own thing while not being boring like the wimpy Kid cartoon
I haven't read the Series of Unfortunate Events so I don't know if the show stays true to books, but I really love the show and I think it was well written
I still need to read the books but the A Series of Unfortunate Events show is awesome, it breaks the forth wall in ways I’d never seen before and are hard to explain. Except for the Baudelaires, The entire story is constantly making fun of literally every single character and their ideas at every possible moment (with a few exceptions for some characters at some points).
Honestly rodrick rules might be the perfect adaptation just because I already know that the new movies are going for this mean spirited stick to make Greg quote on quote relatable
@@carlacarrero4975 i definetely think that the characters were not as likeable in the wimpy kid books as in big nate. I read the two series and i was constantly in laughter and in chill with the chaos of big nate. Even so the characters in that book felt so full of life and full of traits. The story was very spicy and i like also how there are important new characters in each book while still keeping the old ones. With the wimpy kid i felt kind of... bored?? The characters were more annoying to me than likeable even though a character with flaws can be likeable. There werent many memorable chatacters outside of the heffley family and rowley. While in the movies they took the secondary roles and gave them greater purpoise as well as giving them back. Also the movies had satifying endings. With character development and stuff that would never happen in the books. For example.. we have so far 16 books of the wimpy kid and greg still hasnt made good interaction with any girl. Does anyone remember holly hills in the books? Her character did absolutely nothing other than just stand there and be the "popular girl". In the movies there was relationship development between holly and greg and in the end they even become a couple. And the books still follow around the same pattern everything goes wrong for greg and in the end nothing particularly great happens other than things going back to how they were at the start. Same book every pattern.. and its filled with secondary characters that play a minor role and then disappear.
@@thatanimegirlwiththecape4807 that's an interesting take but Holly hill isn't supposed to be a character with development she's literally exist to show how Greg is a wimp who will never date girls and that some people just won't date that's literally it and it makes sense since the books are literally just a diary told from the perspective of a child that lacks self awareness but having some character development would be cool and if you ask me I think the mom is the most annoying character if them all especially in the live action the long road movie
EXACTLY. Adapting a series such as illustrious and utterly Brobdingnagian as Massive Nathaniel will most likely have some challenges along the way, cheers for being optimistic
The only negative to the animation is the eyes. Unless they are wearing glasses, it looks really off for how the characters have googly eyes, and I prefer the plain pupils of the original.
Nate in the TV Show is actually more faithful to the comics, where he was more of an absent-minded idiot and an active nuisance. The novel books actually made Nate much more chill. In the novels, he is the straight-man who makes jokes at other's expense rather than the idiot. And he is more unlucky rather than an active troublemaker.
Oh I remember playing the Big Nate Poptropica Island and reading the books long ago. Man that takes me back. Also the allusion to Diary of a Wimpy Kid makes me want to see you do a video on the fanfics by the subreddit r/LodedDiper
Something I've always loved about Pierre's style of drawing for Big Nate, was the expressions, especially the trademark 'Annoyed Squint' they were so cartoonist and exaggerated and for the tone of the series so well, it played a part in why the comedy hits as hard as it does. It's a shame the show felt like the writers saw those expressions and went "Oh that's the whole series, I know what we can do!"
I loved this book so much I even made my own little comic of where everyone in the school was gone other than his 3 Friends and they went and explored the school for clues it was such a blast and this video is nostalgia
Personally I feel that if the show were to do the strips and novels, they should try and split the episodes into novel only and strip only, as trying to fit some of the strips and their plotlines into the story would just create a lot of tonal whiplash. There also comes the issue on how varied the strips are in scale of time, so giving the strips their own dedicated episodes mean you might be able to work around those time constraints easily
I remember wanting to read Big Nate, but I missed the first book released in 2010, and instead started off with the Sequal Big Nate Strikes Again, thinking it was the first book in the series
Big Nate is a pretty unique comic with many layers. In order to properly adapt it, you need to actually READ a lot of them. Obviously these people didn’t do that, somehow considering how the creator was onboard.
Hearing you describe how you’d do a big Nate show, I think you would enjoy an anime called Lucky Star. It is paced exactly as you said, with a mostly big narrative each episode that does feel like it is a lot like the manga it’s based on, with some moments of the smaller 4 panel comics thrown in, that do also tie into the bigger narrative. I think it’s honestly extremely good the way they did it, and if it could work for that, it could easily work just as well for big Nate
In the show it feels like Nate wants to be like George Beard or Harold Hutches from Captain Underpants. Unlike Big Nate Captain Underpants is one the greatest adaptation for a film.
I love the show mainly because I grew up with the books/comics. But I will admit the show does have some flaws sometimes the jokes don't land but over all it's still a good adaptation from the books and comics. Big Nate the show is good from the art,music,characters, and voice acting it's pretty good 8/10.
I love cheese doodles, only reason i got into them was big nate. Funny enough in florida, my school passes big nate as an actual book instead of a series of comics.
I'm getting major flashbacks of having main character syndrome in elementary thru middle school due to these books. They were fun to read, but it was before I could develop my own personality. So, that's something I gotta live with remembering.
Big Nate was that book series I read growing up, and I thought they were pretty enjoyable, so seeing what series was like was certainly a fascinating experience .
Always been a big fan of Big Nate as well. I definitely do agree with what you said about it being a bit disappointing that a lot of the adult characters were changed, and how the show is a bit more exaggerated than the source material. Besides that, I think it's great so far. I'm especially impressed with how GOOD IT LOOKS! Like I was scared about it being 3D, especially with Nate's hair, but they made it work and I think that's amazing. It looks so good.
Ya know, I’m only now hearing about the Big Nate TV Show because of your video, and I only have one suggestion: The animation art style genuinely freaks me out a little. Plus, it doesn’t have the same or similar “aesthetic” like the original. I believe the best way they could’ve handled was to do something like the Captain Underpants movie, as the movie is more appealing and has the comics have a similar art style with Big Nate. Not having to have a movie budget, but something similar (Also I can’t even look at the video footage, it’s too freaky for me-)
The thing for me is it just seems too different. I grew up with the graphic novels and comics, and the reason I loved them so much was their entertaining slice of life plots, the realistic characters, and the comedy. The comics specifically were just so cleverly written and I love them, especially since the characters felt like real people. The show just seems to be another generic kids' cartoon to me, barely faithful to the source material. idk if I will check it out.
It reminds me of how the Captain Underpants movie adapted the books. Quite a few changes but still enjoyable as someone who loved the books. Also please don’t say it’s like the Middle School movies. The actual Middle School books were suprisingly dark while the movie was pure stupidity.
So basically it's a good show if you've never checked out the source material but it's lackluster if you've followed the source material. Is that the best way to look at it?
This show feels like it was initially written as an entirely different series with actual competency but nick told them to make every character from big nate
It's honestly sad how much more cinematic and beautiful this show looks compared to the diary of a wimpy kid animated MOVIE adaptation Why does a literal SHOW look more like a movie than the doawk MOVIE?
I've been waiting for a TV show of Big Nate FOR YEARS! Ever since I was a kid I've wanted to see a cartoon or TV adaptation, but in 2D. Instead we got 3D which is fine, but if this is going to be an adaptation of the book series, I think 2D wouldve worked. Oddly enough the animation for the show is better than the Disney Diary of a Wimpy Kid Movie remake.
There was originally going to be a 2D animated series based on Big Nate for NBC's morning block, with the creator of the comics being offered by Lee Mendelson of Peanuts back when it first appeared on newspapers in 1991, but unfortunately, many, if not all, of their Saturday morning cartoons got canned by the network which led to the animated series being in development hell for almost 30 years.
Honestly Big Nate is still going strong, after the graphic novel ended, some things carried over to the comics, like dee dee, and Nate no longer hating Jenny, making Jenny more then a 2d love interest, adding a bit of character, with out losing to much of the prior comedy from said lone interest plot
Sounds like a Catscratch situation: Its an adaptation of a comic that BLATANTLY ignores the source material but what it does is so strangely different that it doesnt even feel like an adaptation.
It would’ve been nice if Nate talked to the camera because he’s THAT full of enough that he believes that someone would make a tv show of his life, with the rest of the cast poking fun at him.
Nate has always kinda struck me as a kid with undiagnosed ADHD and I think that’s why a lot of people I know who later got diagnosed (including myself) related to him so much.
I only read maybe the first 3 Big Nate novels back in elementary and because I didn't have that big of a connection, but the one thing that threw me off was the voices. Idk how I imagined them way back when, but it wasn't like how they are now. I appreciate that explanation for animating on 1s, 2s, and 3s. Even though I've seen many people explain it over the years, this is the first time I feel it actually made sense. The spiderman frame by frame really helped
I loved Big Nate as a kid (well the novel didn't read much of the comic strips), but I forgot most of what happened in them this really helped me remember, so thanks 😊. Also reambering what happened in the comics made me agree with u on how the show is not Big Nate!
The fact that after they changed the name of cheesy poofs Lincoln Pierce ACTUALLY made a comic where deedee asks how cheesy poofs and cheese curls are diffrent
It honestly sounds more like a Captain Underpants adaptation more that a Nate adaptation, which makes me think that's what the higher-ups were going for.
I'm not familiar with the Big Nate books, so I guess I didn't have a lot of those problems you have and enjoyed it overall. The shorts really did a disservice to the actual show's reputation. I guess they had a lot of money spent into it, since they even got Jack Black as a guest voice actor and use licensed music a lot.
I grew up on these comics, even though my emetophobia will most likely stop me from seeing the show, my hope for it to flourish into what the comics have built up to isn't going to stop.
Feels like people who made this show were big fans of those Netflix Captain Underpants cartoons, THEY ARE GOOD but the comics do seem more like something that are a more calming and chill read. Not something that makes you laugh or have your heart beat from the events happening.
So basically, all being said that this show could've been perfectly fine if it had absolutely nothing to do with Big Nate. I'd probably give it a watch sometime if it didn't, but since it does I'd just feel like I'd have a bad taste in my mouth from not knowing anything about Big Nate.
Let's just hope and pray that studios never get their hands on Foxtrot. Thank goodness Bill Watterson was smart enough not to sell out Calvin and Hobbes.
