Yooo. Laimbeer CLEARLY did that on purpose. He faked a fall to dive into Ewing's knees. I knew he was dirty but this is disrespectful as a competitor. He went after the guys legs on purpose.
@@maxwellhowell it was a very different style of play than now. People often ask of the players of yesterday would do well today. I think they would as they'd have more protection. Now a simple shove gets both the shover and shovee technical fouls. Still, I think Laimbeer was a dirty dog as a player.
I don’t have the words to describe how beautiful it was to watch the NBA back then, even on any given Tuesday was always can’t miss action!!! Thank God I was alive to see it for myself 🙌👏🔥💯
@@richardlacey4923 has NOTHING to do with how physical the game was back then.. and also, Rudy Tomjonavich had his nose broken by Kermit Washington, and that was the most brutal punch ever.. you are like what? 20 years old? lol you need more exp before you can level up..
@@dopeasme9962Whenever you watch a documentary or interview... these guys still genuinely despise each other / talk shit about each other. No love lost to this day between guys like Bird or Pippen and Laimbeer. I loved seeing the ESPN 30 for 30 documentary about the Bad Boys; Laimbeer just trash talking all the people he played against. Only sad part is that he'll never make the HOF or get an NBA coaching job, even though he should, because of how everybody hates him.
That's one of Laimbeer's go-to dirty moves: when the guy he was covering was up in the air, he'd gauge where they'd land and use some part of his body to make sure they didn't come down on a flat surface as expected. Larry Bird didn't hate Laimbeer because he was tough; he wasn't. Bird hated him because he was a cheap shot artist who literally tried to injure opponents. You'd go up for a rebound and Laimbeer would put his foot where your feet were expecting land, causing ankle injuries.
Perfectly said in every way. The true tough guys were the guys who absorbed the cheap shots. Anyone can hit someone, especially when they're not looking as was so often the case here.
Laimbeer and Rodman were Geniuses to the Flopping back then..they were masters!..Those 2 were fun to watch for me!..We'll never see or enjoy this NBA again.
Yeah from behind catching Laimbeer off-guard. Face to face Parish probably would've got a beating from Laimbeer like Brad Daugherty did when they fought. Anybody can hit someone from behind when they're not expecting it.
pretty obvious how Lambeer crawled backwards conveniently tripping Ewing he prolly thought he was smart and would get away with it but the refs werent having any of it.
@@nmr20067The Gilbert Arenas! The guy with an 11-20 playoff record. Lambeer could shoot the 3, was a better rebounder, and had a better fg and ft %. His record was 71-42 in the playoffs against the best in the league Jordan, Bird, and Magic all while collecting back to back Championship rings. Gilbert who????
So you didn't see the CLEAR PUSH in the back of Laimbeer, that tossed him to the floor? Now honestly, LAIMBEER did get pushed, but HELPED IT OUT A BIT! It was just bad luck, that Ewing fell and tripped over him! BUT JUST SO YOU KNOW, Laimbeer, Mahorn, and the BAD BOYS, are STILL IN THEIR HEADS, 30 plus years later!
@@GOBLUEADAM He just "used" the push to pretend that he slipped/tripped (interrestingly enough to the direction that he was pushed) so he could fell under Ewings legs. Laimbeer was tough I give you that but unfortunatelly he was fucking dirty and he intentionally wanted to "take out" star player from other teams by deliberately hurting them. He got what he deserved, he is hated by most fans still today, he is hated by retired players, he does not get any media jobs and most importantly he will never get to hall of fame. It was his choice.
@@GOBLUEADAM Yeah they were in the Knicks head so bad the Knicks only beat them by 20 something points in the deciding game of that series. Would’ve been by more, but the Bad Boys were in their heads too much lol
Every team in the late 80s/early 90s had at least one enforcer-type player whose role was primarily to go out there and hit guys. Most of them rode the bench, like Kurt Rambis. Some of them started, like Charles Oakley and Bill Laimbeer. The "Bad Boy" Pistons had a bunch of those guys, thus the nickname.
@@stevenjm12 Wrong, the Lakers starters were Kareem, Magic, Worthy, Bryan Scott, & AC Green, Ramis started in 77 games & 74 games when Lakers lost of Boston & Philly. otherwise, he started 20, 10, 10, 46, 31 & 43 games on those Laker Dynasties
The bad boy Detroit Pistons were a bunch of low life cheating criminals who played the game of basketball. Good thing Michael Jordan took care of them and ended their pathetic two year reign of dirty play and trying to injure people. They all belong in prison and not walking the streets. I will never forget how your two ex bad boy Pistons Rick Mahorn and Bill Laimbeer teamed up to start beating up on women in the WNBA. Rick Mahorn assaulted Lisa Leslie. What do you expect from ex bad boy Pistons. They are a disgrace to the game of basketball and the black ex bad boy Pistons make black people look bad by playing into the criminal stereotype of black people. They should all be ashamed of themselves. They will always be looked at as a bunch of low life thugs who won back to back because the league allowed them to cheat and hurt people and play dirty. No respect in that Elwood Palmer!
Glad Laimbeer was on our team. I was a shorty back in the 90’s. I had the Bill Laimbeer basketball game on SNES. I can’t believe he actually got away with all of his antics.
Love these Detroit announcers, insisting Laimbeer was pushed when he clearly dove, as every replay showed. And their sheer brilliance: “Laimbeer will never be loved by fans except for those in Detroit.” Hehehe
@@brettmaster4695 Laimbeer was a dirty SOB. He had no game, and when someone dunked over him, or showed him up, this is how he retaliated. He saw where the ball was going to land, he knew Ewing's location, so he quickly knelt down knowing that Ewing would fall over him. Why is is that he got into so many altercations with so many other players?, he's dirty that's why.
Laimbeer was a very good player who gladly played the role of enforcer and goon. Every great team needs players willing to do the dirty work and he certainly did plenty of dirty work in the paint.
@@5star64 heard the same crap about bruce bowen just coz he played good D and didnt roll over for the 'stars' of the era. its not a game for little girls. maybe try curling.
@@Cristian-vm1bg You poor deluded creature. Bruce Bowen would purposely trip players and then to play nice and pretend to want to help them up. He consistently stuck his feet under jump shooters not giving them a place to land. So they would sprain their ankles when the came down on his shoes. One of the dirtiest plays in league history. And you defend that shit.
What a little hard foul and then the drama of delay games of guys acting they will fight and they don't????stop it man i live that era and i hate to see people acting like every team was physical and dirty it was only Detroit and all stars were complaining about it so is not like everyone was playing physical...
@@platano3000x having lived and watched that era …yea every team went hard played the game with balls and actually played team basketball! The league now is selfish and soft
Damn!! I didn't realize how much pushing and shoving was allowed during the late 1980's and early 1990's by these two teams. And technical fouls were only called half of the times. I didn't realize how much chirping was allowed too!? Awesome memories.
That was a very dangerous play by laimbeer. He really could have injured Ewing’s legs. Ewing got position to get the offensive rebound, Laimbeer knew Ewing was going to get the rebound. To prevent him from scoring on the put back, laimbeer fell into Ewing’s legs when Ewing jumped to get the rebound.
1:05 that might be the most dangerous fouls I've seen. "let me crouch down.. then fall back into him to take out his legs". at least the ref caught it.. of course Daly defends it. and the announcers saying "Lambeer was right about that one" is insane.. Even if Ewing pushed off.. he tried to injure Ewing 100%.
@@yuriykhasidov1626 Agreed more or so in his prime.People don’t remember the beast he was in his prime.He was at like 30PTS 12 Boards and the craziest part 4 blocks
Bill Laimbeer was no punk !! People don't understand what its like to live with Detroit in your blood ! Color doesn't dictate real when you have Detroit behind you. TRUST !
@@GOBLUEADAM Agreed. People talk about the Bad Boys. The Knicks under pat riley was more physical than the Pistons. The Pistons had 4 big time scorers who could explode for 30 at anytime Thomas, Dumars, The Microwave & Aguirre. Not to mention Laimbeer was a stretch 5. You're right
what, you dont like watching 2 hours of bricks from the 3line, fouls for looking at your opponent, players taking 4 steps with the ball constantly never called, political and social matters injected on the court, extremely overpaid and under performing "athletes" who are all premadonnas? c'mon mannnnnn
I hate it when people say "Watch MMA if you love fighting". No, we appreciate this type of basketball because we love it when the key players score and get their stats in this type of battle. People don't know how the intensity adds to fatigue, but these players still go at it every night.
@@CJuspsbefore they lost Mahorn I might agree but after he was gone...no, the Knicks were the tougher team at that point. Hence why they got beat by them in 92
No one likes Laimbeer, including me (and rightly so, he was a dirty player), but someone must have taught him how to fight for real. The time he and Barkley got into it, Laimbeer got the best of it, which no one expected. Maybe his butler was a pugilist when he was growing up.
Bill is great. He just didn't take the elbows and pushing, and stood up to it and gave it back. If you hate him for that, that is your problem. Ewing is pushing in the back and throwing elbows, Oakley is playing just as dirty as anyone in this video. The Knicks were not the victims, they were doing the same stuff. That is just the way the NBA was back then. If you backed down you were roadkill, so Bill did what he had to do to survive.
He’s a spoiled rich little daddy’s boy and he tried to end players careers. Maybe YOUR version of a “warrior”. Not mine. My version of a guy who needs his ass beat so severely that he repents of his scumbag ways.
@@camzpras3435 Hey, I think I know where you're going with this, let me start off by saying I really don't think Ben Wallace should be in the Hall of Fame. The fact that he is though does help your case for sure, because a very strong case can be made that Bill was better. Wallace was an excellent defender, yet Laimbeer averaged only 0.7 less steals per game, and one shot block less per game. Bill should be given some extra defense credit though when considering the mind games he so effectively played on opponents that took them out of their games. Wallace was an excellent rebounder, yet Laimbeer actually had a slightly better rebounds per game average. Offensively, there's no comparison. Bill scored about 8 points more per game, had a higher field goal percentage, higher free throw percentage by a mile, and we won't even talk about three pointers since Wallace didn't take any. Throw in that Laimbeer co-captained two championship teams, Ben played on one, and I would conclude Laimbeer to be the better player. Having said all that, I just don't think Laimbeer's overall game or accomplishments can be considered elite, which should really be the requirement to get in the Hall of fame. I really don't know how Wallace got in. His defense was elite, but his offense was actually bad. When half of your game is bad, how does that happen?
Ewing was a little past his prime by the time Pat Riley got there, but he had a supporting cast of Rivers, Starks, McDaniel (in 1992), Oakley, Harper (later on), Charles Smith, Hubert Davis.
@@ILoveOldTWC And they still couldn't win anything because of the brilliance of Michael Jordan (GOAT) and the Chicago Bulls. That Knicks team can still feel Jordan's foot up their rear-ends to this day!
@@reggiejacksonfan6823 Your right Reggie, I forgot about how Hakeem and Vernon Maxwell and the rest of the Rockets gave those same Knicks a good ass whipping in the 1994 finals. Actually Hakeem and the rockets use to beat up on Michael and the bulls a lot to. Hakeem had a winning record against Jordan and the Bulls. It would have been nice to see Hakeem and the rockets play Jordan and the bulls in the finals. Not sure the Bulls would have won against Hakeem.
I wish basketball would go back to this way. So physical, that it would separate the real men from boys. Today's era of players would struggle in the 1990s. No easy buckets, everything is earned!
Laimbeer was easy to hate, but he was really smart at why and when he would do things with the rules the way they were back then. He would get people so riled up they would get thrown off their game, thats the whole reason he did that stuff. Its dirty and punk behavior, but had its reasons.
@@halleck3that was what I was saying, its punk behavior. Back then it could be used to win thats what im getting at, he did it in a calculated way to win. Im glad its not allowed anymore dont take what I said the wrong way.
@@halleck3 I hear ya, its not how I would play or compete either, but its how he played and it DID work during that era, but it doesnt make it any less scummy I also understand your view too.
Patrick and Bill were great. Bill was nasty and when he was upset it didnt destabilize his game. As a big man he could have played today because he could hit outside shots as well as any big and could pick and skip. In the playoffs the pistons knew other teams would arrive with headphones and try to open up a can of hip hop spaghettios. But the Pistons wouldnt have any of that and it would wind up all over the front of your shirt.
@@cmack17 For the better?? Basketball is my favorite sport and I played it in college. I cannot and will not watch the NBA. It's 🗑. Millions of people agree with me. Check the dwindling ratings
@mongoslade277 1. Yes, for the better 2. Basketball is my favorite sport and I also played in college. 3. If you do not "watch the NBA", how would you know what the NBA is like? In fact, why did you even watch this video? 4. It does not matter if millions ageee with you. The NBA is making money hand over fist. This would indicate that millions disagree with you also. 5. Ratings are "dwindling" because people consume the NBA from other sources than TV. Setting all of that aside... I am 100% confident that people were complaining about "NBA basketball" during the exact era that you think was the golden era of basketball. Let us explore this together. When was NBA Basketball great? What changed?
The greatest era of the NBA. People say they didn’t like all the grabbing and the elbows and the cheap shots - but I loved it. It made an otherwise boring game fun.
@@heelturnsface in all the comments section people say that this was the greatest era of basketball because it had elements of football in it… And I am inclined to agree!
@@timw8646 the people responding! If I had to guess, the ratio is more than 10 to 1, at worst. The BEST era of the basketball sport was when they allowed elements of hockey in it. It made the sport more exciting. That tall skinny white persons who clotheslined the guy from the lakers who wore glasses. All the stuff that Laimbeer did. When Karl Malone hit the guy in the face from the Detroit team and there was all that blood. Now the game is too sensitive for these things and it makes it less exciting. It’s like car racing but no crashes anymore. Booooring. And everyone feel the same ways.
Thank you Robert Parish for putting Laimbeer in his place....signed, all NBA fans. PS: Ewing and company got some revenge in 92 and officially ended the Bad Boys
This just shows me that Laimbeer was just as good at mind games than Rodman was, but never got credit for it. It also showed that the Knicks had just as many "dirty" players as the Pistons. Ewing was giving it to Laimbeer too; so was Oakley. If you go and watch all the footage of those teams back then, the Celtics, the Lakers and even the Bulls (yes) played "dirty" a good bit. For some reason the Pistons are the only ones that got that moniker that still lives on to this day. Also, the announcers tried to blow it out of proportion. Those Pistons went to the Conference Finals 5 years in a row and to the Finals 3 years in a row. They took the Lakers (who were great) to seven games in the first one, swept them the next year, and beat the Trail Blazers 4-1 the next. You don't do that by just being dirty or having a guy on your team who's just dirty. BTW, I was never a Pistons fan and I actually rooted for the Knicks for quite a few years. Just being honest about what I see.
I have been rewatching a lot of games I had watched during the 1980's and I am realizing how physical the Boston Celtics were. Because of the offensive greatness of Larry Bird and Kevin McHale, their defensive intensity was often overshadowed. Of course, the Boston Celtics physicality would show itself during skirmishes and huge brawls. The prime Boston Celtics from 1984-thru-1986 were the most physical team in the NBA. But I'm not totally sure if I would label the Boston Celtics dirty. Boston was more of an in-your-face trash talking team from reports, and they would let a lot of teams know that. Players like Larry Bird and Danny Ainge were tough on the defensive end of the floor. I saw games in which Robert Parrish and Kevin McHale would make opposing players lose their confidence in the paint with their defensive skills, but I wouldn't exactly call the Boston Celtics dirty. The Philadelphia 76ers were an extremely physical defensive unit too. Julius Erving and Bobby Jones played very physical defense, but Dr. J was universally loved in the league back then and not too much would be discussed about that. The LA Lakers had some enforcers on their teams like Maurice Lucas and a few very physical players like Mitch Kupchak, Kurt Rambis and Michael Cooper, but as a team, I never considered the Lakers a dirty team. The Detroit Pistons, NY Knicks, and Chicago Bulls? No question, no doubt about it! I ranked those teams as the most physical and downright dirty teams during the 1980's and 90's. I have no hate for any of those teams. In fact, I respected how those teams played and intimidated opponents. But I must call what I saw as an NBA fan.
Bill is great. He just didn't take the elbows and pushing, and stood up to it and gave it back. If you hate him for that, that is your problem. Ewing is pushing in the back and throwing elbows, Oakley is playing just as dirty as anyone in this video. The Knicks were not the victims, they were doing the same stuff. That is just the way the NBA was back then.
The Knicks were the 90’s Bad Boys, within the rules (except for Oakley). The Pistons were a great team, but the league hated them. If David Stern could’ve omitted their championships from the books he would have
@@davidestick9936 No doubt he would have. He saw to it that during the Parade of their first championship in 1989, that Rick Mahorn would be taken aside to be told he wouldn't be with the Pistons anymore because Minnesota selected him in the expansion draft. He then implemented rules, that basically said they could no longer play defense, after MJ whined to him about their dirty playing, and they did play dirty, but that's no reason to take away from their back to back championships. They made the ECF 1987-1991, and the NBA Finals, 1988, 1989, and 1990.
@@Triple10101 This is another history that Isiah does not want to talked about. How the Knicks sent them home in the playoffs. There's a new bad boys in town
