As a life long Chiefs fan I think the hate is getting overboard from Nick. Personally, I love Josh Allen and find him just as exciting to watch as Joe Burrow.
I am surprised Nick did not publicly celebrate the recent snow storm in Buffalo and all the tragedies. How would you feel, as a Chiefs fan, if Buffalo used Nick's comments as bulletin board material? As a Bills' fan, I have nothing against the Chiefs. They are exciting to watch as well.
@@solomonmundo5229 He only "hates" Josh Allen because he's the biggest threat to Mahomes as the best QB in the league, same reason Skipp "hates" LeBron, because he's the closest to Jordan.
Nick completely hates Burrow and the Bengals. Him saying that actually says alot and his take actually makes sense. Burrow is a better pure QB than Allen
@@tomboad1 what Nick says and what Nick does are two very different things. He will never give Allen or the Bills their props because that's his schtick.
@@tomboard1 allen had 9 td/0 ints in 2 playoff games, burrow had 5tds/2int in 4 playoff games. if you wanna credit him for going to superbowl thats okay but hes not better than allen.
Nick's fear of Josh Allen is absolutely unprecedented. He will do anything to avoid a compliment. The fact that Allen went to Wyoming and Burrow won the Heisman is actually a compliment to Allen as one would expect a Heisman winner to be good. He's so blind with fear that he can't even understand his own compliment.
Nick's only concern is not meeting the Bengals in the playoffs. The only other team was the Tom brady patriots that knocked them out of it. His worry is Burrow not Allen
@@jasonphillips3796 since the beginning of the season he's been obviously annoyed at anything showing Buffalo ranked higher or in any way challenging the Chiefs as the top of the AFC
They are completely different personalities as well😊😊 Burrow is calculated and meticulous cool under pressure genius Allen is the brave undefeatist intimidating and vicious.
@@user-yx3by4we1w That was thanks to their defense holding the chiefs the second half. Allen outplayed mahomes and still lost cuz their defense didnt play good that game
@@tonygonzalez9882 Allen beat an awful defence, mahomes played the rank one. He has never outplayed mahomes and never will. He can have better games as he's playing against an inferior unit every time
Allen looks like he's going to cry when he's down, Joe is a leader, Allen is too emotional, when he's playing poorly he tries to hero ball and rush everytime
Burrow when there is pressure: throw the ball and take the hit. Josh Allen when under pressure: run outside of the pocket and throw a dime 30 yds downfield, across the field while jumping out of bounds.
Nick didn't give Burrow any respect last year until he won in the playoffs and especially when he beat Mahommes. He's said it all along about Allen and the Bills. You have to win something first. If the Bills go to the SB, and they won't, then he'll give them the same amount of respect next year.
I will take Josh Allen because I am a Bills fan, through and through. However, I would also take him because he has shown he can improve when he needs to and can overcome, even when he makes a mistake. He is a winner because he never quits.
I think the point that Josh can do more with his legs is why I’d take him over Joe rn tbh but the fact that the debate is so close is just a testament to the AFC QBs we got for the next decade
Allen doesn't have a decade the way he plays. He's got maybe three more years and then he'll be one of those 14 great weeks and then injured the rest of the way QBs. That's the way it goes in the NFL.
@@tomboard1 I love Josh, but I’m inclined to agree. We thought Cam’s size would save him, but TJ Watt ended that notion. If Josh matures and stays under 100 Carries in a season, he has a chance to stay healthy and be generational. Burrow also runs quite a bit. ALlEN has 115 Carries, Burrow has 72. Josh needs to slide and avoid the hits though. The effects are cumulative. Doesn’t change the fact that a healthy Josh ALlEN is as dangerous as anyone
Joe Burrow. Josh has the size, the skills, the running ability and the strong arm. However, an NFL Quarterback is 90% Mental and 10% skills and abilities. Joe is a cerebral tactician on the football field. Don’t believe me? Look at his LSU College game video’s and compare it to the growth he has developed in Cincinnati. Then compare Josh Allen’s College game video from Wyoming. Josh is a fantastic athlete and has an unbelievably strong arm, but intangibles are the difference between a Lombardi Trophy and a Divisional Championship. Thanks
Allen>Burrow & Allen had 1 of the highest Wonderlick scores ever Nobody can do what Allen does, Nobody, not Mahomes not Burrow Nobody Most physically gifted QB to ever play in the league & he does with far less weapons than Burrow or Mahomes he wills wins like Nobody else Allen is a Unicorn
Burrow was throwing to Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson.....naturally he's gonna look quite a bit better. He was highly recruited out of HS and went to a huge school and got great coaching. Josh didn't show any development until he got to Buffalo under Brian Dabol and had possibly the greatest 1 year leap of any QB in NFL history. And so you know.....neither has won that Lombardi trophy you speak of so his intangibles haven't gotten him much farther than Josh's natural skills and lack of intangibles. And these "intangibles" you speak of....can be learned over time. The natural arm strength and running ability Burrow will never have.
Even before my Eagles had Jalen hurts I used to hate when people would discount rushing touchdowns and rushing yards as if they don't count exactly the same as it's counterpart
@@alexdimmick5015not that many more lol it’s only 2. And according to Nick, Josh was “historically awful” his rookie year so why would I include that in a clutch stat? Not to mention he didn’t come into the league with Jamar Chase as his #1 WR and Joe Mixon behind him. You couldn’t name 2 players on that offense with Allen his first two szns. It’s silly lol
@@Los150 burrow didn’t come into the league with chase either? And higgens was rookie right with burrow. Mixon I’ll give you that and Boyd. But they switched out everybody on that team besides Boyd and mixon. Burrow also missed pretty much his whole rookie season due to that injury. So reality this is his second full year
Josh Allen has been a great passer since 2020 all the way up to until his injured his elbow in that jets game. Its weird how nick seems to downplay how much that elbow injury has affected Allen’s passing.
Half of what that wet Rat says is nonsense. He doesn’t even understand how and why rushing TD’s and yards contribute to a win. He’s talking about the longevity of a QB but apparently hasn’t looked at Burrow’s injury history.
Nick can’t win, because when he points out the elbow leading Josh’s poor play (check the tape) Bru and Wildes downplay the elbow and say “we’ll the Bills are still winning” And Bro…check Josh Allen’s stats last year. He was a turnover machine every other game. Why do you think the Bills beat the Chiefs then lost the 1 see later in the season. It’s because Josh played awful and they had some bad losses….it’s where the Allen Magic Mountain rollercoaster bit came from.
@@jonathanhoward8608 what does last year have to do with anything? Josh Allen gave the team a lead with 13 seconds left on the clock and the defense couldn’t stop the chiefs. That is the story of the bills season last year. Josh Allen was sensational when it mattered in that game. So I don’t understand your point about the 1 seed, etc…. The discussion is about this year and how much the injury has affected Allen’s throwing ability and accuracy.
How do you see that happening? Burrow is as good as Allen. Our receivers are better then yours. Our secondary is better then yours we don't let people run very much and your QB throws picks. I mean I understand your a good team but the Bengals are overall better
@@chrishunt4885 burrow has 1 less pick than Josh this year. God I don't wanna hate you guys but you are making it easy. BURROW HAD 4 PICKS IN 1 GAME AGAINST PITTSBURG, YKNOW, THE TEAM JOSH THREW OVER 400 YARDS AND 4 TDS IN JUST 3 QUARTERS
they also dont mention how josh allen plays half the games in buffalo were the weather is terrible. he has also not being consistent because he had an injury on his elbow.
Josh Allen had one of the best QB performances ever and lost to the Chiefs. Joe B had 4 straight mediocre performances and almost won the superbowl on the back of his defense. Its clear Nick fears the Bills more because he know if the Bills win it would mean that Allen has a legitimate argument against Mahomes whereas Burrow could easily be discredited because its unlikely a Bengals win comes with him dominating in the playoffs.
His performance was only "mediocre" because of his awful o-line. He was the most sacked QB in football. So given that he was able to put enough points to win games and make the Superbowl in his first full season(coming off of an acl injury). I seem to remember him being down at half against the chiefs because his defense couldn't stop Mahomes in the first half, then coming out strong I'm the second half to ultimately tie the game. His defense was surprisingly clutch in the playoffs but let's not act like Burrow didn't play well given his circumstances.
@@chadpowers8842 First off Brett Favre and Big Ben are both pass first QBs which proves my point. 2nd Josh Allen isn’t even in the same universe as those guys? 🤣 Last 10 weeks he’s ranked 30th in completion percentage and 26th in QBR (tell me how he’s injured) He just isn’t good enough at taking over a game with his arm to beat Burrow and Mahomes consistently!
Josh Allen had two years before Burrow and Burrow was injured and had to go through all the covid stuff as a rookie 💀even through that his first three years are better than Allen's first three years
I don't know that's it's really fair to say that Burrow beat Mahomes. The Bengals have beaten the Chiefs 3 times, but Mahomes isn't playing on the defensive side of the ball trying to stop the Bengals' offense. Each guy is having to face an entirely different defensive challenge.
@@loganleroy8622 i know what you mean but burrow is proving to be the better qb overall Doesnt make as many mistakes Dude is locked in and disciplined Mahomes is more freestyle athletic type If im drafting between mahomes and burrow im takin burrow everytime
If he ever makes it. He'll have to go through some tough competition as long as he's in the AFC. Right Now he doesn't seem to have much luck against Mahomes in the post season. And we haven't seen him against Burrow yet.
@AWSME J How does that help him when he plays the Bills? Allen should have beaten him in the playoffs at home last year. Beat him this year, at home as well.
I think Joe is better but honestly I hate how Nick just acts like Allen's ability to run is a downside. It isn't. It just means their styles of play are different. They are the 2nd and 3rd best qbs in football and imo the order doesn't rlly matter bc they are pretty close in ability to one another
People have roundly criticized Cam Newton and Lamar Jackson for their running styles. Why shouldn’t Josh Allen be subjected to the same scrutiny? Because he’s a *WHITE* running quarterback? 🤔🤷🏻♂️🙄🤦🏻♂️
@@johnbrowntheprophet no because he has passing abilities, everyone laughs about the criticism towards allen because we know he’s gonna be a great “Passer” for years to come!
Joe Burrow can afford to be "cool" because he has great offensive weapons. Josh Allen carries the weight of his team most of the time. Mahomes also carries the weight of his team but not most of the time.
joe burrow is so overrated and cant get out of a sack to save his life. he is not athletic like allen and is not as good of a passer as mahomes, he has an okay arm and good accuracy, that sounds a lot like tua but tua is placed way under and burrow is being compared to brady.
Joe Burrow has also always had 3 players at WR that would be #1 on almost every team in the NFL. Higgins is a 1k receiver, Chase is a 1k receiver, Boyd is a 1k receiver. And Joe Mixon is a 1k rb.receiver. And then we git Allen with players dropping passes at extremely high rates. You know he would have more passing yards than Burrow this year if he had the same rate of catchable dropped passes? He'd also have 5 more throwing TDs....
Josh Allen has 500 more rushing yards this year than Joe Burrow. He has about 200 less passing yards, but he played in much uglier conditions in more games. Not sure a pure passing comparison is really apples to apples given where they have played their games.
Joe Burrow is a QB. They don't pay him millions to rush the ball. That's what RBs do. Allen has a lot of rushing yards because he doesn't see the field as well or process as fast as Burrow.
@@Solstare When, in his life, has he ever won more than Burrow? Has he won a Heisman? Has he won a major bowl? Has he won a national championship? Has he won the AFC? Has he been to the SB? How is he just better?
@@tomboard1 burrow has 1 more significant win and that’s playing in a Super Bowl, that he then lost. Big deal 😂 Allen had better stats last year and more wins. And will end the year this year with better stats and more wins again. He also put up way better numbers last year in the playoffs and it wasn’t even close. Burrows gonna take the L Monday and you’ll go home with your tail tucked
@@Solstare Allen lost to Mahomes. Burrow didn't. You can make any excuse you like but the cold, hard facts and box score says you'll talk in circles trying to say otherwise.
@@trequanwilliams7482 exactly, Nick hates Allen n will only mention stats to support his argument. Plus Nick needs a haircut, nothing wrong with guys having long hair but Nick just can’t pull it off.
Wrong question. Which of the two have the best skills to make the other 10 players better....and which of the two have defensive players to keep them off the bench. PLUS which have the better special team players to get good field position. I won't mention coaches but that can be thought out.....One thing, never mentioned , but how much edge would home field advantage give those quarterbacks ....Should not be mentioned but what will the betting dollar say about this contest.
Josh Allen may run alot more and be better at it than Burrow but he has the same amount of fumbles as rushing touchdowns. Plus he seems to struggle against zone. Burrow is among the best in the league against zone.
I’d rather have Josh Allen because he is more of a dual threat QB than Burrow. I can maximize dual threat more with Josh Allen than I can with Joe Burrow.
Foreal joe burrow has basically the same stats as allen , he just hates allen so much cause everyones talking about the bills this year and not his cheifs
joe burrow is so clutch!! hard to forget that amazing game winning drive against the rams to win the superbo- oh wait, that didnt happen!?!? oh but he still pulled some clutch moments during the playoffs right? wildcard vs the raiders: defense intercepts carr at the redzone, divisional vs titans: kicker made a field goal to win it, joe burrow: 0 tds, 1 pick. confrence championship vs the chiefs: mahomes plays a bad seconds half against the bengals and give up a big lead, they go into overtime were mahomes throws a pick and the kicker comes in clutch again to send the bengals to the superbowl. and the superbowl you know what happened. the only td joe burrow threw was a missed face mask on jalen ramsey and still lost. oh but josh allen is not clutch for only giving his defense 13 seconds to stop the chiefs from going 30 yards and score a field goal, mhhm josh allen shoulve chosen the right side of the coin to get the ball first or played defense for the bills to stop them getting a td.
I swear its like ppl dont watch the games and just look at results... Burrow was TERRIBLE INT HE POST SEASON ... there Defense gets ALL the credit o wait no they get none. cuz it was ALL burrow ... LOL
They didn't count rushing TDs because you cant throw an INT while rushing so it would inflate number when doing a TD/INT ratio -_- Go look at Lamar jackson or Jalen Hurts and they would look like the best QBs to ever play if you added their positive rushing stats
@@tgs5725 the rushing stats should be included if that’s a major part of a qb’s game. First of all, they can also turn the ball over on a rush by fumbling, which Nick loves to point out when Josh Allen does. Second, if the TD-int ratio bothers you, then only include passing TD’s when you’re showing TD-int ratio, but this was supposed to be a total yards and TD’s graphic. Just admit it was the producers being misleading to push a narrative
@TheKlutchsletsplays no it wasn't. The "total yards" category was highlighted in white/silver and the legend at the bottom explained that it included rushing yards. The TD/INT ratio didn't claim it was total TDs. The graph was very clear.
@@tgs5725 Even still, Allen's running is a huge part of his game, and to not show that he had 7 rush TD's, especially given that so many have come in clutch moments, is leaving out a huge aspect of what makes him good. If you include Lamar and Hurts' rushing yards, they actually still have fewer total yards than Allen.
*DONT LET THE FACT THAT JOE BURROW AND TOM BRADY ARE BOTH PATRICK POOHOMES’S DADDY DISTRACT U FROM THE FACT THAT JOSH ALLEN, IS IN FACT, ALSO PATRICK POOHOMES’S DADDY*
@@imissryo *DONT LET THE FACT THAT JOE BURROW AND TOM BRADY ARE BOTH PATRICK POOHOMES’S DADDY DISTRACT U FROM THE FACT THAT JOSH ALLEN, IS IN FACT, ALSO PATRICK POOHOMES’S DADDY*
@@jjoffthejuice7391 his number are nearly identical to Burrows over the past year. His whole argument is based off of what might happen 5 years down the line if he doesn't learn to take less hits. And a bit of an exaggeration saying he runs 15 times a game.....try averaging only 7 over the past 3 years, with kneels downs included in that. Whatever it takes to support his take.
Joe Burrow started this season pretty bad, but bounced back. The Bills are the opposite in that regard. Will dare say that the Bengals go further in post season than the bills
Love how they leave out Allens 7 tds rushing ... to keep it as burrow has more tds... It doesn't matter about what their futures are.... where are they now and their contributions to offense? Allen wins... it's also what makes Allen more of an MVP than Mahomes... Mahomes I the better QB... but who is more valuable as a player? Allen or Jackson can easily be the one better on that.
@@kelvinjettsr633 allen had 9 td/0 ints in 2 playoff games, burrow had 5tds/2int in 4 playoff games. if you wanna credit him for going to superbowl thats okay but hes not better than allen.
Burrow has been further in the Playoffs but Allen has played better in my opinion. Burrow is the better passer, but I think Allen is overall a better player. With his running ability, he’s the best dual threat in the league. Both have good defenses and recieving cores, I’d give the Bills the defensive edge and the Bengals have the best recievers. Burrow’s a bit younger but they have to improve that offensive line, or else he might end up like Luck. I’d take Burrow in the clutch but overall I might have to take Allen.
I'm still taking Allen over Burrow cause no matter what people tell me, it was a fluke last year til proven otherwise, I don't see Burrow going through Buffalo and KC in the playoffs to make it to a Super Bowl and that's fair to say for all three teams, it will be a gauntlet and good luck to all them
Burrow and it's not even close. He's better at playing QB. Allen is a better runner. One day that's going to end his career ask Cam about running over people. You don't last long running over defenders. It's why RBs shelf life is so short. They get beaten right out of the league. Allen will be no different than Cam.
Yes Allen can run, but after doing that for 5 years in the nfl and taking hits, you're gonna be washed (Kapernick, Kyler Murray, Mike Vick, Cam Newton, Robert Griffin, etc etc.)
@@steveshap6219 none of those qbs could throw worth sheeeet. Allen can sling it. Nick says he runs it 15 times a game. He averages 7 carries a game over the last 3 years and there's always quite a few kneel downs in the victory formation included in that. He's normally around 4-5 carries a game and will run extra if necessary in that game.
@@getbrainseeds allen had 9 td/0 ints in 2 playoff games, burrow had 5tds/2int in 4 playoff games. if you wanna credit him for going to superbowl thats okay but hes not better than allen. btw one of those td by burrow in the superbowl was a missed face mask on jalen Ramsey so it should really be 4 touchdows/2 interceptions.
It’s definitely Josh Allen he’s the more talented and they are just about as smart as each other reading defenses but Burrow has led bengals to the superbowl but Allen did go to the AFC championship
@@imissryo But Allen been an all pro once and 2 probowls led bills to afc championship and also the best dual threat quarterback in the league and burrow been to a superbowl but was robbed of making pro bowl once so everything I said Allen is the better player the harder the gameplan against
@@imissryo When defenses play bills offense the gameplan is to stop allen but when you play the bengals the gameplan is to slow down Burrow Wide receivers
@@carloscollazo2738 the defense was the reason the Bengals won that playoff game, let's not pretend. Burrow was avg at best, 250 yards, 60% completion, 2 tds 1 int and an 86 rating.
I’d rather have Allen he’s the better qb better postseason performer, better runner/more mobile, same age so you can’t even say “WeLl BuRRows yoUngEr” and he’s a better regular season qb as well I love Burrow but how is this even a debate, Allen clears Burrow by a mile
Now look 5 years from now. If Allen is still playing, I'd be shocked QBs who run of defenders don't last. Again, I'll sat ask Cam about running guys over. He went from MVP to pretty much average, and it went downhill from there. If you actually watch the game and not football highlights, you'll see Borrow is hands down a better QB than Allen. This is not to say Allen isn't good. Borrow is better at playing QB then Allen. If you watch SC highlights than you'll say Allen. If you watch film every GM in the league will tell you Borrow.
