Billy Corgan: Smashing Pumpkins ‘ATUM' & Losing Kurt Cobain | Apple Music

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The Smashing Pumpkins recently released the third and final installment of 'ATUM: A Rock Opera in Three Acts.' Billy Corgan, lead singer of the rock band, sits down with Zane Lowe to discuss this project and his journey so far.
Billy Corgan shares his experience working in the entertainment industry and how it has created the person he is today. He discusses his relationship with Kurt Cobain, and how when Kurt passed Billy felt as if his greatest competitor was no longer there. Billy also shares what he’s been up to recently with two young children, a wrestling company, and music.
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@Dramatello Год назад

I can listen to Corgan for hours non-stop. He's so well spoken, very sharp and smart.

@legendmir1 10 месяцев назад

its interesting, its fine.. but now i am just want to put a pumpkins record on

@kazman_6899 3 месяца назад

He can get conspiratorial, though.

@joshuawilliams7351 2 месяца назад

His hand is red so he can pat himself on the back without blushing.

@rezzinous Год назад

I have always liked The Smashing Pumpkins, but what I've come to appreciate even more as of late is Billy's words of wisdom. He's a very thoughtful guy, and I enjoy hearing his take on any subject

@tbd407 Год назад

i love how authentic this is - you can see Billy has an ego, he's competitive, he has anger about things, he has insecurities, this is great, a great portrait of an artist as he navigates this next chapter. Oh and that Siamese Dream album. Time.less. Mas.Ter.Piece.

@Paul-dw2cl Год назад

Melancholie is even better

@HenritheHorse Год назад

@@Paul-dw2cl Don't forget Pisces.

@geepike Год назад

The number of songs Billy wrote between Gish and Mellon Collie, let alone the quality(!!), is probably unrivaled. (Incl Earphoria, Picies, Aeroplane, singles, etc)

@HenritheHorse Год назад

@@geepike I even like Adore.

@geepike Год назад

@@HenritheHorse Adore was my first SP album purchases. Has some amazing songs on there for sure! To Shiela, For Martha, Ava Adore, Perfect, Pug. Eye, End is the Beginning, Beginning is the End…shoulda been on it too imo.

@AF-Twice Год назад

The Smashing Pumpkins sound is very unique amongst other bands of their era. They are definitely original and make incredible music.

@johnd3124 Год назад

all of the big bands of the 90s sounded very different from each other.. Nirvana and Pearl Jam for example.. or Nirvana and Stone Temple Pilots.. Stone Temple Pilots and Smashing Pumpkins.. Blur and Oasis.. alllll verrrrryyy different. Cant say that about bands in the 2020s.

@davidmurray2539 Год назад

@@johnd3124 And not to forget Layne Staley, Alice In Chains. The era is incomplete with that omission.

@chad4075 Год назад

Rip layne Staley

@pitpride1220 Год назад

Soundgarden demands a mention

@davidmurray2539 Год назад

@@pitpride1220 Also relative to Soundgarden the all too brief existence of Temple of the Dog.

@realjacobhughes 7 месяцев назад

Love Billy’s introspective wisdom and Zane’s facilitation of the conversation. It runs more like two friends talking than an “interview”. Lots and lots of layers to Billy’s life and professional success - and these sit-downs are just awesome glimpses into the world of history’s greatest artists and storytellers.

@peterk983 Год назад

I dig that interview! Mr Corgan is in sync with a lot of things I’ve been thinking for a while. Great!

@TheOtherJCBroadcast Год назад

So glad that HUM gets a name drop early in the Podcast. The 2020 album Inlet is soooooooo good.

@ccharlot Год назад

desert rambler is a masterpiece

@dollarsaurus01 10 месяцев назад

Love Hum, so under-appreciated. Don’t know why Billy had to diss them like that though

@geepike Год назад

Seeing this honest, thoughtful and human conversation between two great people truly gave me hope for the future…and I really needed that! Thank you

@sabbracadabra8367 Год назад

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@geepike Год назад

@@sabbracadabra8367 thats cute. Nice name though, Sabbath for the win 🤘🏻

@ModernElectricRecordings-bl6bs Год назад

It’s amazing to see Billy where he’s at now. Just amazing. What a great interview.

@mourningkiss8546 4 месяца назад

For sure. You can see how he has grown and evolved over the year. ❤

@brich2929 Год назад

Billy is a rock legend, and the first headliner I ever saw - Lollapalooza 1994 in Philly

@kristopherryanwatson Год назад

i saw them for the first time on the same tour. Lollapalooza in Toronto (Molson Park, Barrie). seeing them play live changed my life and my view on live music for the rest of my life. they killed it as a headlining act.

@brich2929 Год назад

@@kristopherryanwatson absolutely!

@brianparker9134 Год назад

I don’t know how he does it but every time I hear a new album I find myself going back to the previous one and it makes sense. Then I go back to the current one and appreciate it more. As an artist still trying to find the audience, I am encouraged to keep finding those palm trees and importing them to LA even if others don’t get it. Amazing interview as always.

@AY-uf4oz Год назад

So well put- the industry searches for the known, the artist searches for the unknown. One of the most articulate persons in rock

@horrorpowerfilms9481 Год назад

I like BC a lot, but you should look for interviews with artists like Patti Smith, Lou Red, David Byrne, Tom Waits, Jello Biafra, Dylan, Prince and Bowie etc. they all say similar stuff for years.

@trique9776 Год назад

It is a half truth though. Music has to fit into the time period but be a little bit ahead to catch on to what gets popular.. There is plenty of oddball music that never goes anywhere lol

@AY-uf4oz Год назад

@@trique9776 True but with an established group like the SP, it gives you more of a chance to experiment and bring your audience with you. Same for Pink Floyd ( a huge fan as you can probably tell by my logo). Otherwise you end up like The Rolling Stones.

@trique9776 Год назад

@@AY-uf4oz Smashing Pumpkins have not produced a good album since the 90's though

@AY-uf4oz Год назад

@@trique9776 True enough.

@joelthegoat4284 Год назад

this I think the best interview I watched from Billy. Mad props to the personality of the interviewer 😁 I love his upbeat attitude

@kornfreak78 Год назад

Great interview. Billy Corgan is awesome. Have always and will always love The Smashing Pumpkins.

@adge74 Год назад

Not sure what to say, but that was an incredible and moving interview. What an amazing individual.

@kayele Год назад

Can't wait to give this a listen on my next walk. Corgan is legendary, looking forward!

@robertvolkerts7205 Год назад

Thanks William Patrick, to another insightful hour. You've been giving us a lot of these lately. Atum is a beast, you should be proud of that album. Yes, I will miss you when you're gone, so please, overstay your welcome. 🤗

@rns2222 Год назад

Wonderful conversation. Thank you both.

@LAVISHING Год назад

Thanks for having Billy on here! I’ll see you 7/18-19 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin Billy! Thanks for everything!

@Luldaasgmail Год назад

7/18-7/19 in Milwaukee? I don’t see anything scheduled for them at that time

@LAVISHING Год назад

@@Luldaasgmail It’s okay. People don’t have to post about where they’re going to be online or on social media.

@florianfischer-zernin Год назад

Love Billy and love these kinds of interviews.

@JMKOWL Год назад

Always humorous, insightful and articulate. Love listening to interviews with Billy.

@LordSoulEater Год назад

One of THE best interviews ever!! Such a big fan of both the Pumpkins and Zane. The greatest joy I have now is to introduce these great bands end their messages to my 14 year old! And then watching him take it in and falling in love with it!!

@bayao Год назад

What a great interview. This was amazing, thanks

@natc2191 Год назад

This was an awesome video! I'm a gen x dude who misses good music. Hearing Billy's interview made me feel young and happy again, in a world that keeps getting unrecognizable to humankind.

@elfunko3928 Год назад

"I was making music for a world that basically was dead and dying but I was the last to get the memo" 39:12 Best quote o them all, very few ex-grungers will dare to accept they were wrong or out dated, it was a very cool but very stubborn and immature generation, now Billy Corgan sounds like all those 80s bands they use to critiqued and is wonderful!

@bloffs3352 Год назад

Love listening to Billy. Nice of him to mention the support band "Amyl and the Sniffers" on the Aussie tour.Amy is so good out front. Great of him to mention some of my fave "Goth" bands too. Oh and btw that little pumkin band were Fkn fantastic at the little old Adelaide Entertainment Centre. Nice touch playing the classic and timeless "Under the Milky Way" by my favourite home band "The Church". Nice of Billy and James to chat about the other Aussie bands they know and like at the show. Great stuff boys.

@nikosl8838 Год назад

For the next 46 minutes and 16 secs nobody speaks to me!! The legend is talking

@danieljohnpeters Год назад

Love these interviews

@brittasdanceqi Год назад

Corgan is so articulate. I've always loved SP because their music feels so intelligent & different from all of the other bands from my generation & they continue to put out great music & given who their front man is, it's no wonder...SP has been a huge part of the score of my life narrative ❤

@alecsbaf Год назад

One of the best interviews I've watched recently, so easy flowing and interesting to watch from start to finish, extraordinary human and character Billy Corgan, and the chemistry with Zane Lowe helped a lot!

@TheRubberStudiosASMR 9 дней назад

I always assumed Zane Lowe was a British woman

@porgeous88 Год назад

the pure effervesence between the two of them is contagious. can't wait to listen!

@spcrusch Год назад

That was a great interview. I can identify with some key concepts here to my own life.

@horrorpowerfilms9481 Год назад

What I like about checking interviews with Alternative/Grunge acts that survived, that they are finally mature enough to talk about what other generations acts talked for years, it isn't "against this and that" anymore, Corgan is joining the rite of passage of every famous Rock band that goes beyond success and failure, you hear EXACTLY the same point of views of interviews like rockers like Bon Jovi , Aerosmith, even Tommy Lee. Welcome to the club Billy...btw is great to see you smile more.

@rideonemgxr Год назад

Well put.

@david.leikam Год назад

I like Apple Classical. Thank you and good conversation here. Cheers!

@castle4640 Год назад

Enjoying his interviews far more than his music lately. Hope he returns to form.

@jameschannon4816 Год назад

I made myself late for work listening to this. How amazing is this. It really helped me to understand Billy’s nature. Put a lot of pieces together for me. Billy is cool as

@RPMusicStudios Год назад

Great conversation gentlemen. I love this.

@guitaristssuck8979 Год назад

5:07 if he's referring to the concert in Milan I was there. He did a meet and greet with fans that afternoon and I asked him if he knew Chino, he said no. Later that evening once Team Sleep concert was over he walked in the venue with Linda Strawberry and I told him "I asked you if you knew Chino" and he replied "I'm a big liar" 😂

@ethanruiz6682 Год назад

Cap

@ciaraskeleton Год назад

Can truly say that The Smashing Pumpkins have and have always had such a unique and true to them style. Never tried to please people, just created the art that they desired. Have continued to do so until this very day. When Billy was a young pup, he was arrogant, defensive and full of ego. That has matured into one of the most flavourful fine wines ive seen. Now he can look back and laugh and put the ego aside, but he still has that intensely analytical and self assured way of thinking, so hearing him reflect on the art making process is phenomenal. Hes linked to every single great artist i listen to, he's weaved into history and im glad hes alive to talk about it all.

@cdawg_sf 10 месяцев назад

What a wonderful interview.

@NotAllWhoWanderAreLost641 Год назад

I respect how Billy never tried to sell out and keep making new versions of Siamese Dream. Always striving for change and embracing it in his current music. PS I loved the Adore album now that I’ve gotten older, you were right

@HenritheHorse Год назад

@@D3epFaik Gotta make your own!

@andreaslandgren1681 Год назад

I loved it since release.

@rushshukla4636 Год назад

@@D3epFaik I thought Oceania was the closest they got to SD. It's a brilliant and overlooked album where everyone actually played their instruments and contributed. The live shows were also engaging.

@sampleoffers1978 Год назад

I don't know that that's true because he has competitive streak clearly from this and he basically made a pumpkins theatrical version of ok computer himself, and that is selling out in that way, but he seems at peace with that which is honest. Whether Cobain could have turned corners and been at peace with his art in way Lennon was, and maybe even progressing further, is the thing with artists. Cobain may have been scared he didnt know how Lennon or Hendrix would have evolved, but maybe he saw himself as better than R.E.M,/the pixies, or not as good and it messed him up. Corgan is arguably more mundane, but Cornell and Cobain being consumed, if Corgan is flipside, he's at least refreshing in that distinction, because both are insecure in their way,, but to still use that insecurity as fuel if able to bare is life. Universe was trying to kill Corgan more than Cobain seems like, so Corgain wanted to be his own expression, vs being the universe's expression. Selling out is artistically valid when it is, because there's external levels of insatiability that won't be able to distinguish that, other then in moment time.

@wingcommander2165 Год назад

Adores amazing but everything after that? no

@jromero9573 3 месяца назад

I could listen to the Pumpkins all day long in the 90's, and now I can't get enough of Billy Corgan's thoughts. Awesome!

@barrygill4376 9 месяцев назад

Awesome concert this year! Man he looks great!

@rideonemgxr Год назад

Love hearing Billy talk about music.

@peterhierholzer6802 Год назад

Billy was, Billy is an incredible person. All who will not miss him when he’s gone are simply missing out. Fantastic interview and much love to Billy and his journey.

@gagypetkovic Год назад

what you talking about,he is not 80 years old

@actuallyNo... Год назад

This is one a the weirdest comments I seen all day ..& that's saying somethin. Lol. Wth, Dude?

@valerio1292 5 месяцев назад

@@actuallyNo... it's literally said at the end of the video... it's still weird to put it that way

@user-yx7zd1nx8r Месяц назад

I have so much more respect for Billy after hearing this interview man I would love to meet him someday

@jimatron369 Год назад

Prolly one of the deepest interviews I’ve heard in a while. Billy the rock the real, the legendary, Zane, the honest I’ve seen you mate, great job. 👍

@protestthisyouloser1093 Год назад

I completely agree. Very deep but things I’m dealing with as a 46 year old dude lol

@ginoperez2834 Год назад

Zane huh? Giving away the heart of the ocean musta been the source of his anger all this time.

@GabrielaCaldas Год назад

Thank you for your music Billy ❤

@motorhead7004 Год назад

I always loved the pumkins. I remember seeing them on the mellone collie tour the stage was collapsing and billy and darsy got into it on stage. Ill never forget it completely nutz. Despite that they did come back out and play a few more songs.

@pawenizioek7804 Год назад

phenomenal interview!

@zombiekrypt1769 Год назад

I truly admire Billy. What a fantastic interesting person.

@jackiep5009 Год назад

I remember Billy talking about after Siamese Dream that he thought everyone really sounded like their albums not the studio fixing it so they played and played and got really good. That is why they are still still around and can still do it. He is exactly right.

@suzannewalley6699 Месяц назад

WPC Billy Corgan and Friends Straight For the Heart as Always !

@LaurenThompson702 Год назад

The Smashing Pumpkins are it. Every one of their albums is the soundtrack of my life. I love it so much.

@claytuckett1830 Год назад

I feel the same way.

@MattMuirhead Год назад

I was at the Pumpkins show in Biloxi MS on April 8 1994, the day they found Kurt's body. Red Red Meat opened for them, IIRC - we had driven from New Orleans to see the show and were listening to mixtapes for the whole trip - we heard the news about Kurt while we walking into the show. Billy was especially emotional and combative - his I Am One rant still rings in my ears after all these years. "For 27 years I have lived with pain in my heart...." before going headlong into a rant calling a out random fan in the front... D'Arcy doesn't want you dumbf*** pissant.... Emotional show, but one of the most memorable I have ever been to.

@highvirusjef Год назад

Incredible interview

@dustin_mcfinklestein Год назад

I've always found Billy Corgan to be a breath of fresh air in interviews. I know some people find him to be arrogant or whatever, but he's always come across as open and honest when it comes to his art and experiences. Also, talk about someone who deserves to have an ego, given all his accomplishments. I will say there are times where I feel like he has been overly critical about his work, but that's something all great artists do. I remember when he brought the Pumpkins back with Zeitgeist and the heaviness that blasted through the speakers. Each Pumpkins record living independently of one another yet fitting seamlessly into a Monumental discography. I need to listen to the full ATUM a few more times but I think it's great. CYR is probably one of, if not my favorite records by Smashing Pumpkins which is quite a feat compared to what any fans call their classic, early albums.

@BrandonDykeGuitar Год назад

Great interview!

@JohnORourke. Год назад

Kurt Cobain discussion starts at 13:05.

@Ratabulous Год назад

The discussion about Kurt lasts less than a minute if you’re curious haha

@LinzYoutube Год назад

thank you, lol!

@1TightMinute 18 дней назад

That’s funny.

@nialld2638 Год назад

Big respect to Billy Corgan, I have a new found respect for him. Top bloke

@tonyhall3365 Год назад

To think that the likes of Kurt, Layne, Buckley, Cornell, Nowell are all gone but at least the likes of Billy and Eddie stuck around

@1TightMinute 18 дней назад

You forgot weiland

@rritchie1977 Год назад

Fantastic interview

@juliehurwitz8677 Год назад

Rain In The Summertime!! WOW I haven't listened to that in decades. What a good call!

@sillyrabbit77 Год назад

I immediately played rain in the summertime. Great song, never heard of the band before. Now they are on my radar. Just a few decades late.

@snowshoes5942 Год назад

Great interview. I really want Siamese Dream 2 though.

@RyanMovingViolationz Год назад

Great interview!!!

@Stormchaser189 Год назад

Listening to B & Z riffing and flowing was somewhere between mournful and therapeutic from a Gen X perspective. It was a real treat with emphasis on REAL! ❤ 🤓

@AUDIOCIDE Год назад

Billy Corgan is the man! Great Interview

@lbaccarini Год назад

Billy is always so insightful, a music titan

@mister3566 Год назад

Billy, thanks for the music

@Twotontessie Год назад

Cool discussion. Was never the biggest fan of his music but I have to admit I always find him interesting to listen to.

@brandonzayres 4 дня назад

You can’t help but love Billy. One of the most down to earth super stars!

@lemonflavoredmilk2136 Год назад

who up smashing their pumpkin rn

@TanguyBlanchard Год назад

playin with they worm

@CesarM780 Год назад

Lmao

@andreaslandgren1681 Год назад

Yup

@alexlight4178 Год назад

Lolll

@hobojungle1 Год назад

@terribletimes01 Год назад

Greetings from a rehearsal space in St.Petersburg Florida

@benf1111 7 месяцев назад

Seeing the Pumpkins in '93 is still the most enjoyable concert I've been to. Great memories.

@fkcamry88 Год назад

To Forgive is one of the most minimalisticly powerful songs that resonated with me.

@oompaloompadoompa-de-doo3614 4 дня назад

It’s not that minimalistic, but definitely minimalistic compared to some of the higher levels of complexity in a lot of Corgan’s chord progressions.

@thejmac69 Год назад

This is the best version of Billy yet. He’s driven with a clear-headed motivation and purpose and it’s great.

@jlouis4407 Год назад

Wish it came out in the music tho

@johnbambrough3189 Год назад

Man this was a great conversation

@clausm2203 Год назад

Great interview

@layoung. Год назад

Shakedown 1979 cool kids never have the time. , Billy, you will always be that young man. Talk about capturing the moment. My sons very favorite band next to Foo Fighters and Maynard James Keenan. I enjoyed your music throughout the years. I love all music. Very creative you are.

@layoung. Год назад

You have your own answer to breaking it apart and regrouping. Awesome interview.

@walterreynoldsmusic Год назад

I think my favourite artists are the ones that you enjoy them talking as much as you admire their art.

@jakehixon4073 Год назад

Good interview. It seems like these two are friends.

@werideatdusk Год назад

Love these two gentlemen.

@joemaddock5387 Год назад

Interesting stuff. I’ll always love the Pumpkins, and wrapping my head around Billy’s personality (or anyone’s for that matter…) is a complicated task. He seems like he’s learning to laugh at himself more… but taking himself too seriously seems like it’s been both his fatal flaw & what allowed him to create such moving music…(?)

@dannyhorner9496 Год назад

Wow! I'm impressed by Billy's comments about the competitiveness of wanting to be at the top of the pile of that generation of "grung"music but the way he described Kurt's talent how he admired him really touched me. Very respectful .. absolutely FANTASTIC BAND LOVE that they're still going.

@VinceverevecniV Год назад

it's a shame because given the talent he has he didn't need that. I understand why it went wrong.

@nicholasanderson6974 Год назад

Show me on the doll where Billy touched you

@joejones9520 10 месяцев назад

@@VinceverevecniV please clarify..who is "he" ? BC or KC? And what is "that"? thanks.

@VinceverevecniV 10 месяцев назад

@@joejones9520 he : BC / that : competition with KC

@joejones9520 10 месяцев назад

@@VinceverevecniV ah thanks! True but I guess most people who make it to that level are by nature competitive people. Im only speculating... I cant relate because Im missing the competitive gene apparently.

@RichardEBurchSr. 2 месяца назад

Such an Awesome musician. Glad i saw Smashing Pumpkins live in Biloxi,Ms. Siamese Dream is a masterpiece.

@trteeerryfse-wy2ww Год назад

Billy corgan, chino moreno, trent reznor all mega giants

@TreySlayPlay23 Год назад

It's crazy to see an interview with Billy Corgan. Actually feeling comfortable with the situation and the person interviewing since you guys have known each other for so long I feel like we got to see a different side of him. that is not normally out with all the other Media obviously it's going to be different between the younger version Of billy corgan and the older wiser version but you get to see aside of him that does not seem as Egotistical like earlier interviews make him seem. I love how humble he was about Kurt Cobain and the fact of how much talent he had and it's like winning a game on technicality he wanted. Cobain to live and continue to make great music. So he himself could try to be competitive with that said music. Just like he said if you want to be the best you have to beat the best very good interview sorry for the long comments

@jasoncrump1886 Год назад

Billy seems like a pretty solid guy. This was a great interview. I'd vote for Billy . Lol

@WakeMikey Год назад

The amount of times I had to pause the video and look up a band or artist for reference during this interview is crazy.

@markwaltersmusic Год назад

Growing up and coming from DeKalb Illinois, Billy’s stories about MJ are just the fucking best. God bless William Patrick Corgan.

@irenebach7934 11 месяцев назад

A very refreshing well thought out and intelligent perspective. Genus icons such as Billy should not concern themselves with the obviously jealous rantings of an insignificant bearded man from Brooklyn. Can't wait to see the show at Jones Beach this Wednesday. Bringing the whole family! We are super excited!

@angryjavi Год назад

Beautiful.

@aaronbazil Год назад

Yes! That's all there to say about this interview: YES! 😀

@Dan-wr3ny Год назад

Billy seems more laid back as he gets older. The more casual yet nuanced dialog is very refreshing.

@aaronartale Год назад

I never thought Hum sounded like the Smashing Pumpkins, but now that's it been mentioned I can see the similarities. I still think Hum has their own thing going that distinguishes them. Their new album is really good

@TheAncientEmo Год назад

Agreed. I love the living heck out of Hum and smashing pumpkins but I don’t hear the similarities at all.

@isleofthecheetah 11 месяцев назад

Hum are better than the Pumpkins to me

@MusicLandria Год назад

Wow. Just noticed I've got 4 new Smashing Pumpkins albums to catch up on. Yeesh.

@Mooray27 Месяц назад

8:23 Zane’s NZ accent really coming out with that Gish pronunciation 😂 Love it!

@jasonkh4 9 месяцев назад

When Billy drops the ego, he is actually a super charming guy. The catalogue is hit-and-miss, but no denying the gems this man and his various cohorts have given us over the years, and the dedication to his craft. Nothing but respect that he is still at it after making it through all the tumult of his generation.