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Bird Flu Spreads to Dairy Cattle, Farm Worker Infected, Virus Fragments in Milk 

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The bird flu has spread to cattle in the United States. Inactive fragments of the virus have been found in milk. The World Health Organization rates the current risk for humans as low but epidemiologists all over the world are on high alert. I have the summary.
The WHO evaluation is here: cdn.who.int/media/docs/defaul...
The paper about the farm worker is here: www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...
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Комментарии : 1,8 тыс.   
@Spearhead-ke8kd
@Spearhead-ke8kd Месяц назад
Should we stockpile toilet paper for this one too?
@lancervi1762
@lancervi1762 Месяц назад
Get a bidet! I have a bidet attachment on every toilet. Do yourselves and your bottoms a favor!
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Месяц назад
Well, if it's on milk...
@seankellycrypto
@seankellycrypto Месяц назад
I wouldn't be surprised that people will fight in stores over some kind of supplies. The bets are open on what the product will be.
@vibratingstring
@vibratingstring Месяц назад
​@@lancervi1762this! I just jumped in the shower in April 2020:)
@threadripper979
@threadripper979 Месяц назад
Yes, and vote democrat - the real reason for these manufactured "emergencies."
@TLguitar
@TLguitar Месяц назад
Small nitpicking - that FDA logo was replaced in 2016. Probably an executive at that point said "I had enough of having people confuse us for SEGA".
@jeromegouvernel8552
@jeromegouvernel8552 Месяц назад
Weird. SEGA has a better reputation
@TLguitar
@TLguitar Месяц назад
@@jeromegouvernel8552 Yeah, but there are no bribe monies in alien hedgehogs.
@SabineHossenfelder
@SabineHossenfelder Месяц назад
You know, I was actually confused about this when I saw the logo because it looked so unfamiliar, but then I looked it up and it seemed to belong to the right institution. Didn't occur to me that it was an old logo, sorry about that.
@Panzer_the_Merganser
@Panzer_the_Merganser Месяц назад
SEGA!
@TLguitar
@TLguitar Месяц назад
​​@@SabineHossenfelder It is possibly still the logo most people associate with the FDA. The first image results when searching for "FDA" are variations of it.
@MIck-M
@MIck-M Месяц назад
I was running out of things to be afraid of, so this has come along just in time. 😱
@bramschoenmakers5071
@bramschoenmakers5071 Месяц назад
There is no need to be afraid. Theres nothing you can effectively do about it. Just live a healthy life and try to lower your stress level. That will do more then most things can
@MIck-M
@MIck-M Месяц назад
@@bramschoenmakers5071 Too true. I was just reacting with a little light sarcasm. If you can't laugh at stuff, stress levels do indeed rise I reckon 🙂
@ashyslashy5818
@ashyslashy5818 Месяц назад
this is not bird flu,the cattle were vaxxed and are sick from that.
@roberthayes6329
@roberthayes6329 Месяц назад
Just in time for an election.
@lor3999
@lor3999 Месяц назад
@@MIck-MYou can do something ! Stay up to date on the current science regarding this threat, which is exactly what you’re doing. 👏👍🔬
@samuelbucher5189
@samuelbucher5189 Месяц назад
The bird flu? Yeah, they tend to do that.
@jimroth7927
@jimroth7927 Месяц назад
You are a bit chirpy
@bobdavis3357
@bobdavis3357 Месяц назад
Bullshit
@jimroth7927
@jimroth7927 Месяц назад
@@bobdavis3357 Ah, I see you are an original thinker
@SigEpBlue
@SigEpBlue Месяц назад
Ugh.... Take your like and get out. 🤣
@justinpaulalbertson1195
@justinpaulalbertson1195 Месяц назад
Facinating.
@charleshash4919
@charleshash4919 Месяц назад
The question mark is a cat, and many cats living and working in bird flu-infected dairies are dying of bird flu.
@bdubb5390
@bdubb5390 19 дней назад
Nope!!
@andycordy5190
@andycordy5190 Месяц назад
Industrial scale chicken and egg farming began in earnest in about 1910 and right from the beginning disease was a key feature of upscaling the size and intensity as farms developed. Assuming that during the first world war these new techniques were implemented across Europe and the USA, so it is highly likely that the post war pandemic of influenza had poultry farming as its source. The terrible outcome of this monstrous industry we have grown worldwide is a hotbed of disease for the poultry and possibly for humans and other mammals, but we have seen widespread culling of free range flocks as precautionary measures even when there is no evidence of infection just because of proximity to factory production sites. Blaming wild bird populations for the spread of avian flu seems such an injustice as they are innocent victims of a human problem and the environmental impact on air quality and water quality near large installations are causing grave concerns about those related issues.
@MyName-tb9oz
@MyName-tb9oz Месяц назад
This ought to be the pinned comment. Pasteurization is really only necessary because of the giant dairy industry's horrible treatment of their cattle. They treat the cows just as badly as they treat their employees. If you were buying milk from your neighbor and your kid got sick from it do you suppose they would just blow you off because they have a hundred million other customers and don't have to care about you? No. Their reputation would be destroyed and they would lose their income. Only a giant corporation can ignore that kind of thing. And they most certainly do.
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 15 дней назад
Animal agriculture is also the top cause of deforestation habitat loss and biodiversity loss.
@akagordon
@akagordon Месяц назад
It's worth noting that the disease is manifesting as conjunctivitis in cattle, which could be telling of the mechanism of the spillover. The dairy farmer in the U.S. also presented the same type of symptoms, meaning it for some reason isn't causing severe disease within the respiratory tract. This may be good news as it could mean transmission is more limited due to the type of receptors available, particularly in the eye, across species. For more detailed analysis, This Week In Virology is a bi-weekly net cast hosted by Dr. Vincent Racaniello of Columbia and his cohorts. The episodes with M.D. Ph.D. Daniel Griffin are a good place for those new to virology as his episodes focus on evidence based science for disease outbreak and medical intervention.
@TheMrCougarful
@TheMrCougarful Месяц назад
As we know, these zoonotic viruses can learn new behaviors to allow spread. Once it gets into mammals, it's only a matter of time before it finds new vectors. The real pandemic starts in 6 months.
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht Месяц назад
So... next time it's gonna be ski-goggles and rubber gloves. Something to look forward to.
@ashyslashy5818
@ashyslashy5818 Месяц назад
this is not bird flu,the cattle were vaxxed and are sick from that.
@Rafael96xD
@Rafael96xD Месяц назад
​@@Volkbrechtit depends... It might be mild in humans but bad for small animals like cats and dogs. So yeah... Better wear globes and goggles if you dont want to see your furrie friends die...
@alan4sure
@alan4sure Месяц назад
​​@@Volkbrechtwith ski googles, those same delicate western society children shouldn't develop mental problems like they did when a mask covered the face. Some are still traumatized.😅
@maurasmith-mitsky762
@maurasmith-mitsky762 Месяц назад
Old poem from the early/mid 1900’s. “It isn’t the cough that’ll carry you off. It’s the coffin they’ll carry you off’in.”
@MR-Last-rj6lb
@MR-Last-rj6lb 29 дней назад
What happened in 1918 was not disastrous because it existed, rather that there was a war, and the military made it disastrous by shipping people all over the place. The magic jab potion is "tHe OnLy" cure when people are complacent about how they live with their hygiene, and thats what people in the 1900's didn't want to acknowledge.
@MR-Last-rj6lb
@MR-Last-rj6lb 29 дней назад
I made 1 comment before this one.
@Shellie-bf3wx
@Shellie-bf3wx 21 день назад
Unfortunately understood. Like It’s not the disease that will kill you. It’s the treatment that will get you.
@sueelliott4793
@sueelliott4793 19 дней назад
It's not the virus but the labs that concoct it.
@EddieTheH
@EddieTheH 19 дней назад
​@@Shellie-bf3wx It doesn't mean that at all. It means you're not dead til you're dead, but when you're dead, you're dead. Basically, don't accept death until you're dead, live til you can't.
@nahoj.2569
@nahoj.2569 Месяц назад
livestock live in cramped spaces and allow for free access to disease carriers. the number of them make mutations more likely. and the farmers/meat plant workers are constantly exposed to them. easy to see the link, no?
@theMedicatedCitizen
@theMedicatedCitizen Месяц назад
Pretty certain "No need for alarm" is the unofficial slogan of the Umbrella Corporation
@larrylangley9240
@larrylangley9240 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@rantingrodent416
@rantingrodent416 Месяц назад
Rather than reacting with fear, consider how incredible it is that we actually have the capability to keep track of potential threats now. You don't have to go back very far in time at all to get to a place where we could only flail around in response to something once it was already dangerous. Increased awareness of danger leads to a greater feeling of danger, even though it represents a lower actual level danger. (due to preparedness)
@zapphoddbubbahbrox5681
@zapphoddbubbahbrox5681 Месяц назад
yes it is amazing how humans survived for tens of thousands of years without complex intervention and testing. almost like nature tends to make viruses LESS virulent over time by way of environmental pressures. just remember nature has no ego
@rupertchappelle5303
@rupertchappelle5303 Месяц назад
In the olden days of the last century, we had no such threats.
@rantingrodent416
@rantingrodent416 Месяц назад
​@@rupertchappelle5303 incorrect. we've had such threats at least as long as we've kept livestock. It's only recently that we've been able to properly attribute their sources.
@enadegheeghaghe6369
@enadegheeghaghe6369 Месяц назад
​@@rupertchappelle5303nonsense, pick up a book on virology or Epidemiology. We've had dozens of viral pandemics through out human history
@IronicallyVague
@IronicallyVague Месяц назад
Global depopulation means you too
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened Месяц назад
There's also no reason to think thay the actual fatality rate for that early strain was 52% as the only people who were documented to have it were those who had severe enough symptoms to seek medical care. Excluded from these numbers are those that didn't seek medical care, either because they didn't deem it necessary, or because of factors like lack of coverage, other costs associated with care, or general apprehension of doctors, which was fairly prevalent in completely informal polls(asking coworkers) that Ive done.
@bryanshoemaker6120
@bryanshoemaker6120 Месяц назад
They like to use percentages because of how easy is to deceive people. If only one person is infected by a virus in a city that has never had a virus . regardless if the population of 200,000 or 5 million. That's still 100% increase.
@carlbrenninkmeijer8925
@carlbrenninkmeijer8925 Месяц назад
Birds flew?
@yengsabio5315
@yengsabio5315 Месяц назад
& fled.
@TerryLawrence001
@TerryLawrence001 Месяц назад
WHO Knew Birds flew?
@vibratingstring
@vibratingstring Месяц назад
And chimney swift's flue.
@KendraAndTheLaw
@KendraAndTheLaw Месяц назад
over the cuckoos nest
@nachdenker
@nachdenker Месяц назад
The problem: Gates etc. still walking on the surface of the planet. Follow the money. It all ends in Basel and the Zionists Bank for International Settlement.
@marsnr1
@marsnr1 Месяц назад
No, don't quote Eric Feigl Ding....he is an internetmeme. Feigl-Ding is an expert in every current thing so he is probably now a Gaza and Ukraine expert, but next month he might be a bird-flu expert and in two months in expert in Nigeria.
@richardharris8538
@richardharris8538 Месяц назад
Where do you get your info from? According to Wikipedia, he is an expert in epidemiology. "Feigl-Ding's work focuses on epidemiology, health economics, and nutrition. He is the Chief of the COVID Risk Task Force at the New England Complex Systems Institute. He was a Senior Fellow at the Federation of American Scientists. He was a researcher at the Harvard Medical School, and at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.[1] "Feigl-Ding is also the Chief Health Economist at Microclinic International,[19] as co-principal investigator of several intervention programs for obesity and diabetes prevention in the US and abroad. He developed a 130-year cohort study of Major League Baseball regarding the relationship between obesity and mortality in athletes.[20] He has also developed and led public health programs for Bell County, Kentucky,[21] the Danish Ministry of Health,[22] and as a report chairman for the European Commission.[23] "In 2006, while completing his doctorate at Harvard, Feigl-Ding co-authored a study on COX-2 inhibitors that confirmed serious risks specifically associated with the drug, Vioxx, which Merck had withdrawn from the market two years earlier, in 2004, and which argued that Merck should have known about the risks.[5][24][25][26] He was one of over 3,000 researchers who participated in the Global Burden of Disease Study, funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.[27][18]"
@Sonny_McMacsson
@Sonny_McMacsson Месяц назад
What are you, some kind of expert expert?
@roydoorenspleet1548
@roydoorenspleet1548 Месяц назад
He is en epemiologist.; This is about an outbreak. So you can listen to what an actual expert says or what politicians, commentators and barstools opine.
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog Месяц назад
@@roydoorenspleet1548 "epemiologist" He's as much an expert in his supposed field as you are an expert in spelling.
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog Месяц назад
@@roydoorenspleet1548 "epemiologist" Dingbat is as much an "expert" in his supposed field as you are an expert in spelling.
@jakeaurod
@jakeaurod Месяц назад
Don't forget that the Case Fatality Rate only tells you how many people died who were known by doctors to have the infection. It doesn't tell you how many people died out of all the people who were infected, meaning those who didn't get counted as a case because had no symptoms, mild symptoms, or died without anyone knowing they had symptoms. The CFR might also not always make the distinction between those who died from the infection and those who died with the infection.
@zoltanreisz2228
@zoltanreisz2228 Месяц назад
These banal infections cause serious illness in people who are somehow more susceptible or immunocompromised. According to the measurements, this is 0.2-0.3 percent of the population. They are probably the only ones who see a doctor when they get an influenza virus infection. In this very narrow group, mortality can be as high as 20-30%. That is, the number is correct, but the basis of reference is not correct.
@Rafael96xD
@Rafael96xD Месяц назад
Virus amount and method of transmission might be also a key in CFR.
@mariusbendiksen163
@mariusbendiksen163 Месяц назад
Also doesn’t count people who were asymptomatic.
@SylwesterKogowski
@SylwesterKogowski Месяц назад
All the more cause for panic! Will the Martians allow us to travel there knowing about the epidemy on earth?
@nachdenker
@nachdenker Месяц назад
The people were killed in the hospitals by Remdesivr and similar drugs causing kidney failure. That’s why they told you such nonsense like “the new corona virus migrates it from the lungs to the kidneys and causes kidney failure”. Total 100% bs. Tony Fauci, the FDA, NIH, NIAID, WHO, Johns Hopkins University, all committed first degree mass murder on behalf of the pharma.
@teemukupiainen3684
@teemukupiainen3684 Месяц назад
Thank you…you could have also mentioned that the virus mutates easily in large poultry farms, where an unnatural number of birds are crammed into miserable conditions.
@lubricustheslippery5028
@lubricustheslippery5028 Месяц назад
Large amount of cattle cramped into miserable conditions is even scarier because then the virus will adapt to mammals, and yeas you are an mammal.
@mikeguilmette776
@mikeguilmette776 Месяц назад
@@lubricustheslippery5028 Like cities . . .
@rupertchappelle5303
@rupertchappelle5303 Месяц назад
Truth hertz, donut?
@ashyslashy5818
@ashyslashy5818 Месяц назад
this is not bird flu,the cattle were vaxxed and are sick from that.
@Galahad54
@Galahad54 Месяц назад
The 2002 bird flu killed about 70% of the wild birds in my area, but was only a minor nuisance to poultry farmers. It's possible that chickens in close quarters need and get immunity to more variations of avian flu.
@MaryAnnNytowl
@MaryAnnNytowl Месяц назад
It's not good for cattle, or milk-drinkers, but to me, as the owner of some of the sweetest little pet chickens in existence, this is DAMNED SCARY! Makes me want to go completely cover and seal my birds' pens to keep any wild birds away from mine! Thanks, Sabine, I appreciate what you do - even when it's slightly terrifying for my pets.
@blucat4
@blucat4 29 дней назад
It is NOT scary, there are 10,000 diseases out there and most people don't die of any of them. Relax.
@MR-Last-rj6lb
@MR-Last-rj6lb 29 дней назад
The pro's of drinking raw is better than the cons when you practice a healthy lifestyle. For millenia that has been the way to drink it, and all of a sudden in the past blink of time in history we want to pretend that pasterizing is the somehow superior; what a joke.
@RachaelLewis68
@RachaelLewis68 25 дней назад
Your chickens will probably be just fine. They want to scare everyone that has backyard flocks. They were even putting hormones in a popular feed that would stop ovulation, but the it was caught on to.
@aeneas-sails
@aeneas-sails Месяц назад
Dr. H., thank you for using your gravitas in this medium to let us know the essential facts in this matter. You may not be in public health, but your pov with a scientist's mind is quite valuable. Danke.
@joshpyburn
@joshpyburn Месяц назад
It's as if large-scale animal farming and the overuse of antibiotics are growing threats to human health.
@jonmoceri
@jonmoceri Месяц назад
Antibiotics have zero effect on viral transmission or viral immunity.
@nengyang1895
@nengyang1895 Месяц назад
At least there are humans alive to be affected. No food = no humans. People of Sri Lanka starved from food shortage just from not being able to use amonia nitrate. That's not even scaling back on farming. There is never gonna be a perfect solution to every problem. Everything is a compromise.
@patricialee76
@patricialee76 Месяц назад
antibiotics don't affect the flu.
@nonsequitor
@nonsequitor Месяц назад
​@@patricialee76not directly, but that's not the point. The overuse of antibiotics is mitigation for the impact of horrible conditions in farming, conditions that have helped incubate and spread this latest potential pandemic virus. The point stands.
@garywalker8493
@garywalker8493 Месяц назад
If a farm uses an antibiotic on a cow, that milk can't be used for human consumption. There is a drug protocol that prevents it use for a fuxed period in days. The milk processors test the milk received from farms and they will reject the whole lot of milk if they detect an antibiotic.
@hugoburton9105
@hugoburton9105 Месяц назад
I’m glad you do cover a wide range of topics that can concern us all. The way you explain your research and come to clear unbiased conclusions is really good and much needed when there is so much intentional misinformation about. Well done and thank you!
@PMX
@PMX Месяц назад
There was a study published four days ago about a dairy farm where cows started getting symptoms that were later confirmed to be caused by H5N1. The next day, the farm cats, who usually drink spilled milk, started showing symptoms too. Three days after showing the first symptoms, over half of the 24 cats were dead, whereas most of the cows eventually recovered. According to the study, they found H5N1 not just in the lungs of the cats but also in the eyes, brain and heart.
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe Месяц назад
Don't drink raw milk
@mikeg9b
@mikeg9b Месяц назад
Burrough ER, Magstadt DR, Petersen B, Timmermans SJ, Gauger PC, Zhang J, et al. Highly pathogenic avian influenza A(H5N1) clade 2.3.4.4b virus infection in domestic dairy cattle and cats, United States, 2024. Emerg Infect Dis. 2024 Jul
@tw8464
@tw8464 Месяц назад
I'd heard cats were getting infected drinking the raw milk. But saw nothing in the news about the cats fatality rate. Thanks for the info. Let us know where the study is from so we have all the info. Thank a
@PMX
@PMX Месяц назад
@@tw8464 Can't put links but it's from the "Emerging Infectious Diseases" Journal, the title of the study is "Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza A(H5N1) Clade 2.3.4.4b Virus Infection in Domestic Dairy Cattle and Cats, United States, 2024"
@tikaanipippin
@tikaanipippin Месяц назад
And farm cats often fend for rhemselves on a diet of rodents and what else? Ah! birds that don't get away from the cats because they may be debilitated by some epidemic avian infection, which they have in a large infective inoculum in their bodies. The cats don't catch it from spilt milk!
@protocol6
@protocol6 Месяц назад
Apparently 24 cats on a dairy farm in Texas were fed raw cows milk late last month and half of them died from bird flu.
@blucat4
@blucat4 29 дней назад
Apparently one million humans believed whatever they read and all commited suicide. No wait, that was you.
@chrisguli2865
@chrisguli2865 29 дней назад
Cats should not be drinking milk (or eating dairy products) in the first place. Cat owners are ignorant of that it seems.
@midnull6009
@midnull6009 28 дней назад
Humans and animals have been drinking raw milk for centuries...people have been eating raw eggs too...
@torietorreano6613
@torietorreano6613 Месяц назад
Thank you for your time and hard work that goes into your responsible, well -researched show. I sincerely appreciate being able to keep up . Please feel free to break form with your topic selection. You have at least one guaranteed happy subscriber.
@jamesbond_007
@jamesbond_007 Месяц назад
Thank you for sharing this. You absolutely should share this kind of information, so it's more widely known that this is happening and what (little) we can do to avoid contracting the virus.
@tml721
@tml721 Месяц назад
Always cook any meat to temperatures of 160 degrees. Oven thermometers can help to check a temperature
@petero9584
@petero9584 6 дней назад
H5N1 has been giving virologists nightmares since 1990’s.
@saschaesken5524
@saschaesken5524 3 дня назад
No science at all in virology😅
@johnhicks3540
@johnhicks3540 Месяц назад
Dolphin in Florida was found dead in 3/22 of avian flu.
@johnhicks3540
@johnhicks3540 Месяц назад
@@mikeaugust with
@SpiritualSoul520
@SpiritualSoul520 Месяц назад
watch the beggining intro of world war z they mention avain flu .
@MsShirepony
@MsShirepony Месяц назад
So... pasteurization works. Thanks for the update.
@RolandGiersig
@RolandGiersig Месяц назад
Just read that they also found it in Dolphins. 😢
@mikeguilmette776
@mikeguilmette776 Месяц назад
They left . . . after thanking us for all the fish.
@TheMrCougarful
@TheMrCougarful Месяц назад
As if dolphins aren't having a hard enough time, now this.
@mikeguilmette776
@mikeguilmette776 Месяц назад
@@TheMrCougarful Especially after the cows returned to the sea in 2020 . . .
@GreenyX1
@GreenyX1 Месяц назад
If it's being surreptitiously sprayed in the atmosphere, you'll definitely find it in dolphins.
@WacKEDmaN
@WacKEDmaN 29 дней назад
...no cause for alarm...its only the miami dolphins
@James-ke5sx
@James-ke5sx 6 дней назад
Sales of raw milk have gone up in the USA. Here in Canada it is illegal to sell raw milk.
@user-ls9yu9hx8w
@user-ls9yu9hx8w Месяц назад
My dog got bird flu and mites from putting her nose on a dead bird. It took the dog three weeks to get over the flu and nearly a year later I’m still treating mites.
@midnull6009
@midnull6009 28 дней назад
That sounds unrealistic af
@Orwell-df4pf
@Orwell-df4pf Месяц назад
Thank you for reporting on this issue. I had not heard anything from mainstream media.
@Xedlord
@Xedlord Месяц назад
Finally, I'd been wondering when covid 2 would come out.
@HumbleBee123
@HumbleBee123 Месяц назад
I and many others predicted this. Here we go again. Episode 2 coming soon.
@enadegheeghaghe6369
@enadegheeghaghe6369 Месяц назад
Covid 2? There has been dozens of viral pandemics through out human history
@clray123
@clray123 Месяц назад
@@HumbleBee123 As long as there is money to be made and the perpetrators are not in prison...
@stevegilmore2103
@stevegilmore2103 12 дней назад
I been saying Biden and the Demoncrats would come up with something like COVID before the November elections. They have to do Biden can campaign from his basement
@seb4462
@seb4462 Месяц назад
Mission to inform accomplished. Well done, Sabine, thank you.
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 29 дней назад
Yup: “Unvaccinated are a danger to themselves and others. Of course, they should not have the same rights and freedoms as vaccinated people. Anyone who intentionally puts others in danger has to live with the consequences.” - Sabine Hossenfelder, 2021, Twitter
@amadeagottlieb
@amadeagottlieb Месяц назад
Thank you for covering this. I appreciate your measured discussion of the facts and frank statement of the prognosis.
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 Месяц назад
Thank you for this report. I appreciate it a LOT 👍
@vibratingstring
@vibratingstring Месяц назад
One set of 1st cousins had a different grandmother than me: theirs died in 1919 from the flu pandemic. She was in her early 20s and my uncle was a baby :(...
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog Месяц назад
If they only had Eric-Feigl Ding to get advice from they'd still be alive today, sad!
@mike423439
@mike423439 Месяц назад
So sad, she actually died from bacterial meningitis from wearing a mask. Masks are what killed most everyone.
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 Месяц назад
@@notanemoprog Are you kidding?
@timmyjones1921
@timmyjones1921 Месяц назад
Thank You Dr. Sabine.
@nickush7512
@nickush7512 Месяц назад
Many thanks Sabine.... always interested to hear what you say...
@maurasmith-mitsky762
@maurasmith-mitsky762 Месяц назад
Excellent report, Sabine! Thanks. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
@Nostrudoomus
@Nostrudoomus Месяц назад
Most DEFINITELY 👍🏻 spike food products with bird 🐦 flu 🤒 to prepare the populous immune system for the possible bird 🦢 flu pandemic 😷! It worked for Ebola, some populations in Africa had moderate immunity from unknown slight exposure!😅
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature Месяц назад
You can turn a hover pen into a seismometer with just the addition of a laser and a photodetector!
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 Месяц назад
Ah!
@Toca_waffle843
@Toca_waffle843 Месяц назад
@@bryonfreeman3524 easier to put bells on the rhinos
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 Месяц назад
That's actually pretty cool... I'd probably go with an electrostatic sensor though. Or maybe electromagnetic.
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature
@StabilisingGlobalTemperature Месяц назад
@@godfreypoon5148 Thinking about it, a Hall sensor might do instead of laser and photodetector.
@jensschirner6137
@jensschirner6137 Месяц назад
Sounds like Davos is not yet giving up.
@aishalotter9995
@aishalotter9995 29 дней назад
Ahh the F D A the paragons of truth and without a revolving door with big pharma, I’ll always trust those guys with my life !!!
@FamilySpeakUp
@FamilySpeakUp Месяц назад
All parts of the pen have flown through space. Come to think of it, all parts of the pen are flying through space
@pandajfry
@pandajfry Месяц назад
Explains why it's not a stationary
@FamilySpeakUp
@FamilySpeakUp Месяц назад
@@pandajfry the earth is moving through space.
@erinm9445
@erinm9445 Месяц назад
@@pandajfry But it is stationery!
@cheesofile666
@cheesofile666 29 дней назад
But you don’t know how the universe itself is moving, so can’t say for sure
@Susandwyer
@Susandwyer Месяц назад
Thanks for the info, boss.
@robincook5999
@robincook5999 17 дней назад
I have a book reprinted in the 1960s it's about dairy farming management. We are concerned about over use of Antibiotics. Routine in dairy Cows when drying off. Residue detected in milk samples. There is a disease called Bovine Seasonal flu, it hits whole dairy herds, and in some cases can be fatal but anyway definitely be economic effects. But it's young stock which are most effected research points to calfs which have not had the opertunity to take their mother's milk are most susceptible and and has a high mortality rate. Brought in calfs can infect other young stock so its important to isolate new batchs of calfs and make sure they have benefited from their mother's natural Antibiotics bank. We know that a calf with a infection which can suckle its mother will cross infect its mother which will then use its immune system to produce a antibody which will pass onto its calf via her milk. The importance of suckling our young in all species can not be over rated ,.
@chillfluencer
@chillfluencer 26 дней назад
Thanks for tackling this issue so fluently.
@robertlee8519
@robertlee8519 Месяц назад
I'm curious what method they're using for detection when they test things like milk samples, formula, powdered milk, etc. Are they using lamp or PCR detection? Also curious what type of media they're using
@TheOriginalJAX
@TheOriginalJAX Месяц назад
I suspect foul play.
@croma4158
@croma4158 Месяц назад
Fowl
@TheOriginalJAX
@TheOriginalJAX Месяц назад
@@croma4158 You guessed the double entendre correctly congratulations! Unfortunately I have no prize for this wonderful momentous occasion but fear not, You get the best prize of all. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Acknowledgement, In the form of golden star stickers and a entry into the school district spelling Bee. which is the only prize that matters and if you disagree your getting a wet willy.
@Pfftztt
@Pfftztt Месяц назад
Everything we consume has been tampered with, deseeded produce so we cannot grow from saved seeds. I do save now from my foods. Trust nobody in media concerning food safety claims. Governments want absolute control of food we purchase to deny us freedom of choice. It is about absolute power over the worlds food supply chains, distribution, farming, exports and what we consume. The control over every aspect of life.😢🇨🇦🤷🏻‍♀️
@Spectrulus
@Spectrulus 29 дней назад
Thank you for sharing Sabine!
@Redpill99
@Redpill99 28 дней назад
I just bought a new Hover Pen Interstellar for my Sons Graduation. Thanks for the idea Sabine!
@jakeharrison505
@jakeharrison505 Месяц назад
Sabine: “Everyone has a weakness, and mine is pants. No not pants, pence..” Genuinely couldn’t tell what I was hearing 😅
@blucat4
@blucat4 29 дней назад
I had to turn on the Closed Captions. Not auto-generated, Sabine does proper ones. Ahh, PANS. Why put eggs in them? I was focusing on the eggs. Anyway, all made clear now, confusion eliminated.
@hedwegg
@hedwegg Месяц назад
☕🍩Stay on Top of it!☕🍩Thank you for the Report!☕🍩
@gsilcoful
@gsilcoful Месяц назад
Thanks!
@thomaskeenan2208
@thomaskeenan2208 Месяц назад
Ice cream a risk ? Just as summer approaches.
@FunFindsYT
@FunFindsYT Месяц назад
just make sure to boil your icecream before eating and you should be fine
@roberthayes6329
@roberthayes6329 Месяц назад
Bidens going to be devastated.
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 Месяц назад
@@FunFindsYT Just put it outside the window, "climate is boiling", don't you remember? 🤷‍♂
@jonathanmitchell8698
@jonathanmitchell8698 Месяц назад
Vegan ice cream exists (the Breyers ones don't even cost about the same)
@jonathanmitchell8698
@jonathanmitchell8698 Месяц назад
Vegan ice cream exists (the Breyers ones even cost about the same as their forced-cow-lactation counterpart)
@Harvey_Pekar
@Harvey_Pekar Месяц назад
Well, this sucks.
@Jay_in_Japan
@Jay_in_Japan 23 дня назад
Question is, how does bird flu get from chickens to cows? Why are we feeding chickens to cows? Instead of grass?
@musicarroll
@musicarroll Месяц назад
It will arrive just in time for the US election in Nov.
@olibertosoto5470
@olibertosoto5470 Месяц назад
Last I heard, genetic analysis from the dairy worker that was infected did not match that found in any of the samples taken from cattle. And cfrs can be very misleading, unfortunately we seem to have a very hard time at figuring out ifrs - and that makes it easier to implement hysterical responces.
@M-dv1yj
@M-dv1yj Месяц назад
An administration with no capacity and China is an enemy on our soil with bio labs. Both the cause and the response are gonna threaten to kill us. Wow.
@laaaliiiluuu
@laaaliiiluuu Месяц назад
The Media lives from hysteria.
@bishopdredd5349
@bishopdredd5349 Месяц назад
I had a look and can find no mention of this anywhere, where exactly did you hear this?
@olibertosoto5470
@olibertosoto5470 Месяц назад
@@bishopdredd5349 From a report complaining about the lack of specific data needed to draw any half decent conclusions. I'll see if I can find it and point you to it.
@olibertosoto5470
@olibertosoto5470 Месяц назад
@@bishopdredd5349 Having trouble posting you the location of the article!
@fibber2u
@fibber2u Месяц назад
Wow! A plastic pen just what we need! Thanks Sabine. It floats all by its self no need to wait until it reaches the Sargasso Sea (and I have little doubt it, or at least micro particles of it, will).
@gregs3845
@gregs3845 28 дней назад
That was a decent summary of the situation. When official medical advice is that the risk of something is low the messaging is a balancing act between being cautious to not understate the risk, but also not wanting to create unnecessary panic. The message I get from the low risk statement is that the vast majority of people are very unlikely to come into contact with an infectious dose of the virus, but there is concern over the path the virus is evolving. The other thing is we have an ongoing and permanent 'flu pandemic, it's why older and immune compromised people are recommended to get vaccinated every year. It's the vaccination of vulnerable populations that prevents a lot of deaths from happening on an annual basis. What makes a sudden bird 'flu cross over to easy human-human spread worrying is the lack of vaccine that can be quickly deployed across the world. It may be more deadly than the annual 'flu pandemic but it's the lag time to when there can be widespread vaccine deployment that will be the reason there are a lot more deaths than typical years.
@derson754
@derson754 Месяц назад
Is this actually the cows being infected? Because dairies in America at least have an issue with European starlings dieing in animal feed. Not necessarily the cows being affected
@pdblouin
@pdblouin Месяц назад
The industry also admits to using "Poultry litter" as cow feed. They claim it's pasteurized but the razor thin profit margins and the energy requirement of pasteurization makes me question how often corners are cut.
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 Месяц назад
No, only the flying cows
@nahoj.2569
@nahoj.2569 Месяц назад
livestock live in cramped spaces and allow for free access to disease carriers. the number of them make mutations more likely. and the farmers/meat plant workers are constantly exposed to them. easy to see the link, no?
@NeonNijahn
@NeonNijahn Месяц назад
I didn't think we'd have another another pandmic this year until pigs fly... but now cows flu.
@Bobbel888
@Bobbel888 Месяц назад
There is always something to fill the horror channel between wars.
@willd4686
@willd4686 26 дней назад
I love watching Sabine read the ads
@Flash1857
@Flash1857 Месяц назад
Thank you for the information on bird flu and its implications
@sswwooppee
@sswwooppee Месяц назад
I view a virus that’s capable of jumping from avians to mammals as highly adaptable and a total bummer.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher Месяц назад
You are urged to become VEGAN, since carnism (the destructive ideology that supports the use and consumption of animal products, especially for “food”) is arguably the foremost existential crisis.🌱
@rupertchappelle5303
@rupertchappelle5303 Месяц назад
BOO! - Dr. Fauci
@meanderinoranges
@meanderinoranges Месяц назад
I view a government that can inflate fears in order to destroy its economy and hurt a president a total bummer.
@rccola5167
@rccola5167 Месяц назад
Woohan has been hard at work!
@nicholashylton6857
@nicholashylton6857 Месяц назад
Viruses have developed a lot of tricks across the vast stretches of evolutionary history.
@rickbates9232
@rickbates9232 Месяц назад
I thought the bird flu was Twitter .... now X to mark the spot it died.
@Sheyz123
@Sheyz123 24 дня назад
I saved this watch not realizing it was by you . Very nice!
@frontech3271
@frontech3271 Месяц назад
06:30 Re Hover Pen, Very cool, I do like the meteorite embedding. I just laugh because, Sabine, we're all flying through space! I have my own version of a pen with my fingernail clipping or baby-tooth embedded!
@Apeiron242
@Apeiron242 Месяц назад
At this point, The Who has more medical cred than the WHO.
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 15 дней назад
Whom do you consider to be more reliable than the World Health Organization? By the way the who rock group are awesome! I saw them in concert with Keith Moon and it was the best concert I ever saw. Even better than the stones Eric Clapton or Santana.
@SigEpBlue
@SigEpBlue Месяц назад
Although I'm not terribly worried about this at the moment, it was concerning that the USDA needed a kick in the pants from the international community to even share the genetic sequence data it had last month. Thankfully that's had the effect of finally getting them to do more of the testing they should've been doing all along, and there's pressure to keep monitoring the situation as it evolves (figuratively and literally). Side thought: it'd be great if the companies making mRNA vaccines, e.g. Pfizer, would get a headstart this time around, and at least lay the groundwork for an H5N1 vaccine, if not make an actual working one for cattle. I'm sure more than a few farmers would be pleased.
@ronm6585
@ronm6585 Месяц назад
Thanks Sabine.
@arc4705
@arc4705 Месяц назад
0:57 Oh thank god, I was worried about this
@user-kt5cp7lv5e
@user-kt5cp7lv5e Месяц назад
Is the fragments in dairy a kind of natural vaccine? How did this work in prehistory? How did getting cowpox help with smallpox? Natural
@billsimpson604
@billsimpson604 Месяц назад
Probably not. Cowpox was the entire virus, so getting it it primed the immune system against when smallpox showed up. It is like COVID. The more virus particles you inhaled, the greater the chance of you dying, since the more you inhaled, the more had a chance to replicate inside you before your immune system had a chance to mount a defense. It is a race to replicate inside you - the virus, versus the immune system attackers. When you read how COVID works, it is amazing everybody doesn't die, since a single virus particle can produce millions of copies of itself after it takes over one of your cells and transforms it into a little virus factory. Before you know it, there are trillions of them inside you, with the number growing exponentially. Getting fever might kill a lot of them.
@sunla
@sunla Месяц назад
Wouldn't you *want* to drink milk from infected or past-infected cattle? I don't know how it works for cattle to human, but I at last know that nursing babies receive antibodies of current or past infections from their mother's milk, boosting immunity without having to get sick in the first place. It might be different if the antibodies from the cow are unsuccessful or less successful than ones produced by the same species. But other than that, I wouldn't write it off completely without a deeper look.
@mygirldarby
@mygirldarby Месяц назад
That sounds like a huge roll of the dice.
@sunla
@sunla Месяц назад
@mygirldarby not really. Catching live and intact H1N1 from milk at the grocery store, dairy products, or even bovine colostrum tablets is unlikely, I'd argue more unlikely than getting antibodies, but that's just a hypothesis... and that's why we need a closer look at it, because you don't need to "roll the dice" when actual research and tests are performed.
@tw8464
@tw8464 Месяц назад
Mother's milk is for babies. Cow milk is for cows. No, for the love of God, don't drink raw bird flu milk or give it to babies. Human babies aren't even supposed to drink cow milk. These people out there saying "infect everyone" are the ones making the human reservoir and going to cause the next epidemic. And they'll take no responsibility for doing so but shift all the burdens and costs onto the people actually holdinh society up on their backs. Do the internet nonsense pushers know how many people throughout history have died of infectious disease? How is it possible all these modern people "don't know" and pushing terrible completely wrong way of dealing with infectious disease via the internet? It's unbelievable.
@digicinematic
@digicinematic 28 дней назад
I knew about the bird -> pig -> human vector but bovine is new to me.
@pointandshootvideo
@pointandshootvideo Месяц назад
We used to worry about dogs and cats sleeping together. Who knew we needed to keep our eyes on cows and birds!
@grahammoreton9686
@grahammoreton9686 Месяц назад
So 'Gain of function' research has finally given us the hovering pen! well worth waiting for.
@Rafael96xD
@Rafael96xD Месяц назад
Ir its a gain of function then its a failure for the moment.
@holthuizenoemoet591
@holthuizenoemoet591 Месяц назад
the bird flue however will probably hit a lot harder, and would obviously spread way easier given that birds and now farm animals would all be potential vectors. Pair that with a potential high mortality rate and we would surly get global panic! Countries almost fell apart during COVID which only a 2-3% mortality
@Rafael96xD
@Rafael96xD Месяц назад
Not really... If its too dangerous a quarantine might be more effective at isolating cases. Also, all countries in the world know how to deal with viruses now. Finally, we have vaccines pre-approved and ready for mass production, just some touches here and there and DONE.
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 Месяц назад
@@Rafael96xD 🤣🤣🤣🤡
@martijn8554
@martijn8554 28 дней назад
​@@Rafael96xD In the modern world quarantine is ineffective, COVID proved that. While it may be technically possible, socially people are terrible at following instructions and don't want to bear the very real costs associated with a real quarantine. We got lucky with COVID that it mostly affected older/unhealthier people and we happened to have new vaccine technology that had already passed safety trials and just needed scaling. If we ever get a pandemic that mostly kills babies and working age people, the social reaction will be completely different. Or as they say: once you've survived one pandemic, you've learned to survive that one pandemic. The next one will be completely different.
@midnull6009
@midnull6009 28 дней назад
The Wuhan virus had even less mortality...that 2% is overinflated...
@rjbiker66
@rjbiker66 28 дней назад
Covid didn't have 2-3% mortality. You are out by a factor of more than 10. mRNA tech will probably never be used again for large scale vaccinations. It's simply too dangerous.
@chriswilliams1944
@chriswilliams1944 Месяц назад
Talking about the facts regarding a potentially significant infection risk is a really important part of what good science communicators do, Sabine. Helps keep the alarmist tripe coming from the meeja and people with agendas in perspective. Thank you, as ever. 😁👍
@computer-training-for-seniors
@computer-training-for-seniors Месяц назад
Interesting Sabine. I have a Novium hoverpen as well.
@slyblood85
@slyblood85 Месяц назад
just in time for the election cycle!
@tacitus7797
@tacitus7797 Месяц назад
Totally random and probably incorrect comment: maybe us milk-drinkers are getting pre-vaccinated with the inactive/parts of the virus.
@Toca_waffle843
@Toca_waffle843 Месяц назад
I'm ready to believe that one
@axle.student
@axle.student Месяц назад
I actually had that same though. But not sure if such a small amount would make it past the stomach enzymes into the blood stream. I would suggest ingesting your milk via the nasal passage for a better immune outcome :)
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 Месяц назад
@@axle.student I de-ingested the milk via my nasal passage... Same same, eh?
@axle.student
@axle.student Месяц назад
@@godfreypoon5148 Maybe if the stomach acids and enzymes didn't already neutralize the virus. Stomach enzymes work quit quickly to neutralize (metabolize) toxins etc. That's what we as humans can get away with eating a lot of toxic vegetable matter.
@tw8464
@tw8464 Месяц назад
I'm not a scientist, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way.
@gsilcoful
@gsilcoful Месяц назад
Thank you.
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 29 дней назад
For what?
@seditt5146
@seditt5146 Месяц назад
I think this was the strain back in 2009...2011? Something like that which I got infected with when it was around because I laid on the couch for days feeling like I was dying in some of the worse shape I ever been in. Literally just drenched the cushions from sweat.
@kubicajakub
@kubicajakub Месяц назад
So do we have to buy Pfizer stock before they announce miracle cure?
@rupertchappelle5303
@rupertchappelle5303 Месяц назад
Sure, just hope you survive the "cure."
@AnthropomorphicTrilobite
@AnthropomorphicTrilobite Месяц назад
​@@rupertchappelle5303 According to antivaxxers I should have been dead 10 times over.
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog Месяц назад
@@AnthropomorphicTrilobite The day is still young.
@piotrd.4850
@piotrd.4850 Месяц назад
@@rupertchappelle5303 He said stock, not shot
@BooleanDisorder
@BooleanDisorder Месяц назад
Trump's lockdowns 2.0 in 2025 then.
@ricoma6037
@ricoma6037 Месяц назад
Thank you, Sabine! I hope there are no labs experimenting, again!!!
@Debbie-henri
@Debbie-henri Месяц назад
That's not very likely. The more common a virus is - the greater the likelihood of it mutating to infect something else. Bird flu has been going around for years, so this scenario was going to happen sooner or later - birds pass the flu from species to species, birds poop as they fly over fields, feed in fields, nest in fields, and cows, sheep, goats, pigs, bison, elk, llamas, kangaroos, deer, rabbits, hares, horses, zebra, impala and many, many more animals eat it, constantly giving the virus millions of chances to adapt. You don't need a lab - we're all living on one.
@jonathanmitchell8698
@jonathanmitchell8698 Месяц назад
Who needs labs when you have a bunch of factory farms cramming thousands of (sentient) animals together in unsanitary conditions, many of them dead or dying or rotting before getting disposed of in the local cesspool that drains into the local water supply? Labs culture small batches of mammalian cells with very strict sanitation and safety measures.
@jonathanmitchell8698
@jonathanmitchell8698 Месяц назад
Who needs labs when you have a factory farm on every corner, cramming thousands of (sentient) animals into unsanitary conditions where many have open wounds, or are dead, dying, or rotting before getting thrown in the cesspit with their comrades' feces which leak into the local water supply? I don't think any lab could culture that many mammalian cells in such great conditions for viral infection and (uncontrolled and unobservable) gain of function experimentation.
@WyomingGuy876
@WyomingGuy876 Месяц назад
"The Bird Flu" is now being treated in the USA by Tamiflu which anyone can get via prescription.
@carmenmccauley585
@carmenmccauley585 Месяц назад
Thank you Sabine.
@HardcorebergO
@HardcorebergO Месяц назад
Plantbased should be the way to go. It is ethical towards animals, the most sustainable and it would defo drop the chances of zoonotic diseases. And some says it is helping to avoid common illnesses when it is a whole food plant based diet. One day we will do the right thing. I hope 😅
@someguy2135
@someguy2135 15 дней назад
Another drawback to animal agriculture is the standard use of antibiotics which makes the development of antibiotic resistant pathogens a certainty.
@richardandrews573
@richardandrews573 Месяц назад
Another informative episode, thanks Sabine.
@ChiefBridgeFuser
@ChiefBridgeFuser Месяц назад
CFR vs IFR is an important distinction. CFR has some kind of defined denominator. If nobody knows you're infected, what is the the IFR?
@Gandoff2000
@Gandoff2000 Месяц назад
Thank you. I like getting your take on scienecy things even if it isn't physics.
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 Месяц назад
Yup 🤡 “Unvaccinated are a danger to themselves and others. Of course, they should not have the same rights and freedoms as vaccinated people. Anyone who intentionally puts others in danger has to live with the consequences.” - Sabine Hossenfelder, 2021
@johnk7025
@johnk7025 Месяц назад
damn. Really said that?
@MCsCreations
@MCsCreations Месяц назад
That's worrying... But the virus traces on milk, could it work as a vaccine, Sabine? If those are inactivated... But, well, I guess it would need to get to the blood, so... I don't know... Anyway, thanks for the heads-up! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 Месяц назад
That´s what I thought too, could it have an imunisation effect, to drink tha milk. But a dangerous future virus, I think, needs new immunisation again.
@Cosmodjinn
@Cosmodjinn Месяц назад
Digested, won't get anywhere near blood to elicit an immune response. Just another protein fragment in an ocean of milk protein.
@Vicky-lv6hg
@Vicky-lv6hg Месяц назад
If non-experts in a field didn’t support good science in general, we would all be shooting bleach in our veins while insisting the earth is flat
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog Месяц назад
"would all be shooting bleach in our veins " Who suggested that?
@notanemoprog
@notanemoprog Месяц назад
Btw nice botnet, congrats on your 44 likes in a second!
@user-jd2gi7dy5d
@user-jd2gi7dy5d Месяц назад
@@notanemoprog Donald Trump suggested that against Covid
@user-gu6ps6ed6l
@user-gu6ps6ed6l Месяц назад
😂🍊💨💩🤢
@hugoguerreiro1078
@hugoguerreiro1078 Месяц назад
​@@user-jd2gi7dy5d actual quote?
@lvlndco
@lvlndco Месяц назад
Thank you for the information without drama. It's better we be informed and not afraid later on when the fear mongers jump onto the bandwagon.
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 Месяц назад
“Unvaccinated are a danger to themselves and others. Of course, they should not have the same rights and freedoms as vaccinated people. Anyone who intentionally puts others in danger has to live with the consequences.” - Sabine Hossenfelder, 2021
@stonerubber
@stonerubber Месяц назад
Fool me twice, shame on me.
@stevet6676
@stevet6676 Месяц назад
You are a treasure Sabine. Zoonotic disease transfer is my 4th reason to not consume animal products.
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 Месяц назад
She´s veggy too
@lucar.923
@lucar.923 29 дней назад
What a treasure! “Unvaccinated are a danger to themselves and others. Of course, they should not have the same rights and freedoms as vaccinated people. Anyone who intentionally puts others in danger has to live with the consequences.” - Sabine Hossenfelder, 2021
@Thomas-gk42
@Thomas-gk42 29 дней назад
@@lucar.923 and she´s right, my friend
@midnull6009
@midnull6009 28 дней назад
No...thats a hella dangerous statement to make...​@Thomas-gk42
@midnull6009
@midnull6009 28 дней назад
....there are far worse things you're constantly subjected to. For instance..the only reason why you're not getting flesh eating bacteria when sitting on the ground is cuz of your immune system. Stop being a germaphobe.... There is c. Diff. Parasites. Prion disease... I can go on and d on and on....
@Nope-w3c
@Nope-w3c 11 часов назад
Could we get some analysis in whether it makes sense to drink or not drink pasteurised milk? As in, apparently it contains some traces of the virus. Meaning if we were all to drink it, the chance of it spreading might inrease. However, since they are (mostly?) inactive, wouldn't this also boost natural immunisation against a possible outbreak later?
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