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Birds: Surprisingly Connected Etymologies 

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Five pairs of bird-related words with unexpected connections.
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Today in “Surprisingly Connected Etymologies”, we’re taking a look at some birds!
Just before I get to the birds - if you’re interested in learning more about how etymology works, stick around at the end of the video to hear about a new public course I’m teaching about the basics of historical linguistics.
We used to be told that the start of life was when the stork brought us to our parents, and funnily enough this is etymologically appropriate, if biologically inaccurate. Stork comes through Old English storc from the Proto-Indo-European root *ster- “stiff” because of the bird’s stiff movements. This root also leads to Old English styrtan “to start, leap up” and Modern English start, as the sense shifted from “stiff” to “move briskly or stiffly” to “move suddenly” and eventually “begin to move”.
A canary and a hound seem like quite different animals, and yet etymologically they’re one and the same. Hound, or Old English hund, used to be the basic word for “dog”. It comes from the PIE root *kwn-to- , which comes from the base *kwon- “dog”. Another derivative of this root *kan-i- leads to Latin canis “dog”. Romans in the 1st century found islands off the North West coast of Africa which had on them a particular large breed of dog. From the Latin adjective canarius “of dogs” they came to be known as the Canary Islands. Later on in the 16th century a particular type of finch also found on the Canary Islands was exported to England, and they came to be known as canary birds.
Trade is also behind our next bird pairing: turkey and turquoise. Turkey the bird is in fact named after Turkey the country, not because it comes from there but because it was confused with another somewhat similar bird, the guinea fowl, that was traded into Europe through the Ottoman Empire and thus became known as ‘turkey’ in England. When the bird from the Americas started to be imported, it got lumped together with the other ‘foreign’ fowl, and ended up taking over its name. Similarly, most of the turquoise that came to Europe did so by way of Turkish trade, hence its name. The country’s name itself has disputed and unclear origins, beyond being named after the people known as the Turks.
A thrush and an ostrich are very different sized birds, but etymologically they’re the same. Thrush comes from Old English þrysce, which in turn comes from Proto-Germanic *thruskjon and PIE *trozdo-, also referring to the thrush bird. This same root leads to Greek strouthos “thrush”, and in one hell of an understatement, megas strouthos, literally “great or big sparrow”, referred to the ostrich, which was also known as a strouthokamelos, literally “thrush-camel” because of its long camel-like neck. Eventually strouthos on its own came to refer to the ostrich, and as it passed through Latin it was combined with avis “bird” leading to Vulgar Latin *avistruthius, which became Old French ostrusce and English ostrich.
Etymologically speaking you should find goose served in a smorgasbord. Goose has a pretty straightforward history, from Old English gos, Proto-Germanic *gans-, and PIE *ghans- meaning “goose, swan” and is probably imitative of the honking sound the bird makes. Unsurprisingly then, Swedish has the word gås “goose”. What is more surprising is the Swedish compound word smörgås, which is literally “butter-goose” but is used to mean “slice of bread with butter”. The first element smör, related to English smear, is Swedish for “butter” and in this context gås means “lump of butter” by way of comparison to goose fat. Smörgåsbord then, with bord (related to English board) meaning “table”, came to refer to food served buffet-style, and entered English as smorgasbord eventually gaining the figurative sense of “medley, miscellany”.

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@mitchblank
@mitchblank 3 года назад
The "Canary" connection is also how London ended up with a business district called "Canary Wharf" built on the area known as "The Isle Of Dogs"
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Thanks! Nice extra connection!
@Jumpoable
@Jumpoable 3 года назад
Stupefying. So nothing to do with canary birds, just Latin.
@inkaacrowe8429
@inkaacrowe8429 2 года назад
Wow so true!
@BioBush
@BioBush 3 года назад
Always interested in learning more about birds and how they interact with our culture. It was really interesting to see the names interact and evolve. Thanks for covering this subject! PS - Ostrich is a Camel Thrush! They should have just stopped there. That's great.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
I know, right? Who doesn't wish we still called it a camelthrush?!
@brute9867
@brute9867 3 года назад
Wow this is so interesting and informative at the same time! Glad i subribed and extra fun when swedish is mentioned
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it, hope I didn't mangle the Swedish too much!
@Anthropomorph0
@Anthropomorph0 3 года назад
This was a nice one! And your pronunciation of Ö was pretty good, kudos. ^^
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Oh, thank you! I was worried about that!
@nomcognom2414
@nomcognom2414 3 месяца назад
Beautiful!
@forthrightgambitia1032
@forthrightgambitia1032 3 года назад
1:15 I was reading Pear's Cyclopedia from the 1930s that belonged to my grandmother. The rather grand author in said book (in a section about dog training and handling) wrote that all people of proper breeding know that the correct word is 'hound' and that 'dog' is a vulgar solecism.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Wow! That lingered a long time. Older terms do hold on in specialized fields.
@forthrightgambitia1032
@forthrightgambitia1032 3 года назад
@@Alliterative In upper class circles too. I believe 'hound' was still the common term in the British aristocracy in the first half of the 20th century.
@Joth4851
@Joth4851 3 года назад
The way I have heard it is that the origin of 'smörgås' comes from when the butter was churned. In the churn the butter would float on the surface of the milk like geese on water. So 'smörgås' originally just meant 'lump of butter', but came to mean butter on bread, and then just 'a sandwish'.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Oh, interesting! That’s a nice extra story, thanks!
@ezioauditoredafirenze3086
@ezioauditoredafirenze3086 Год назад
more i watch this channel more i like it, it is so educative thank you, man, for your effort
@Alliterative
@Alliterative Год назад
Thanks!
@kaarlimakela3413
@kaarlimakela3413 2 года назад
I have seen some of your videos today, rather randomly. I was compelled to Subscribe. This was as much fun as an afternoon down on the carpet perusing Mom's 15-lb Dictionary. Etymology anyone? Yes, please! 👵
@masonwreaks5715
@masonwreaks5715 3 года назад
thank you
@Jumpoable
@Jumpoable 3 года назад
THAT. Was insane. Thank you.
@musicalintentions
@musicalintentions 3 года назад
very cool I always enjoy these.
@ImissSaganCarl
@ImissSaganCarl 3 года назад
FASCINATING!!! Thank you so much.
@BobbyBermuda1986
@BobbyBermuda1986 3 года назад
What often isn't mentioned in the convo around the Canary Islands is that the reason there were dogs there is because there were already people living there. Related to the Berbers if I recall (not sure if they still like that term).
@fartreta
@fartreta 3 года назад
They call themselves Amazigh (which of course is autocorrected as "Amazing" 😄) which is the preferred name nowadays. "Berber" is a variant of the word "barbar(ian)", so it's a rather questionable term after all.
@BobbyBermuda1986
@BobbyBermuda1986 3 года назад
BTW, Future video suggestion: the connection between Caligula and an Italian calzone, as in the food. Fascinating other connections along the way in many Italic languages, including socks, panties, the heel, measuring, etc.
@Ecotasia
@Ecotasia 3 года назад
Really awesome, love to learn how birds names connect through language.
@gwyndolinds-en8yt
@gwyndolinds-en8yt 2 года назад
The ostrich one was a surprise for me
@TheJamesM
@TheJamesM 3 года назад
It's fun to feel ahead of the game with these videos for once: I'd already looked up the etymology of smörgås, since I have a particular interest in Swedish (it's part of my family background). It's such a whimsical word!
@Utgardaloki76
@Utgardaloki76 Год назад
Juletid bådar väl för smörgåsbord Yuletide bodes well for "smeargooseboard"
@patrickcoin9457
@patrickcoin9457 2 года назад
Great video. 1-My alternative idea on the connection between ostriches and camels--both have feet with two large toes, a very striking similarity, and a parallel adaptation for running. Yeah, the long neck, too. 2-An interesting bit of bird etymology are birds where the English name and the scientific Latin name appear to be from the same PIE root, but one coming down from Old English and the other via the Romance side: thrush/Turdus, crow/Corvus, goose (gander)/Anser. There is influence from French as well, so it is hard to say always.
@amacsizbirkisi
@amacsizbirkisi Год назад
2:27 Two years late, but this fact was still widely accepted when this video first aired: "Turk" comes from Old Turkic "törü-" (to be created, to reach the ripeness (point of a fruit/human) Nowadays, it has the meaning of "to derive, to reproduce (chiefly in animals)". This puts the bird "turkey" in a position where it is a cognate with the Turkish word for derivative functions in mathematics, "türev".
@amacsizbirkisi
@amacsizbirkisi Год назад
Other "hypotheses" (which are supported only by a minority, mostly Pan-Iranist circles), suggest cognate with Saka "turuka" ("helmet", which is unwieldy) and "Tyrcae" (a Schythian tribe, whom are called "Iyrcae", and the T- is a hyper-correction by English authors.)
@Alliterative
@Alliterative Год назад
I did go into the origin a bit more in my video about the bird "Turkey" back a while ago, though not in that much detail, so thank you for filling in more information. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-He-wNRtBuRM.html
@SSHALLEY
@SSHALLEY Год назад
And ostrich in Spanish is Avestruz, directly from Lingva Latina
@SSHALLEY
@SSHALLEY Год назад
And thanks a lot for these videos, I show them to all my students, they are super interested !
@Figgy5119
@Figgy5119 3 года назад
Darn, your seminar is at 5am my time on a work day D:
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Oh, that’s less than ideal! Silly time zones. You can leave a comment on the Speakeasy site telling them what time would work better for you; if there’s enough interest that I’m able to keep doing these, we may be able to put them on at different times.
@Figgy5119
@Figgy5119 3 года назад
@@Alliterative excellent, I'll do that!
@bernardfinucane2061
@bernardfinucane2061 3 года назад
Hens, n the other hand, are so called because they can sing, like the latin cantare (chant). Actually it was the roosters at first.
@eichpantherchen7866
@eichpantherchen7866 3 года назад
Is "go to the birds" an idiom? And what does it mean?
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
It's really just a bit of a play on "go to the dogs" -- you'll find it in punning headlines and articles, but it's not a widespread idiom on it's own.
@eichpantherchen7866
@eichpantherchen7866 3 года назад
@@Alliterative thank you
@tombra7
@tombra7 3 года назад
polite notice - goose is coming from гусь , and Gans from gęś . also groose is from głuszec .
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
The Russian and Polish and English words derive from a common Proto-Indo-European ancestor, but English words do not come from Russian words. The Slavic branch and the Germanic branch evolved in different directions from a common source.
@ReidarWasenius
@ReidarWasenius 3 года назад
Fina insikter om fågelnamn.
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
Tack!
@yanikkunitsin1466
@yanikkunitsin1466 3 года назад
Start and stork. Redstart is way younger than both of them, so it's false etymolgie.
@yanikkunitsin1466
@yanikkunitsin1466 3 года назад
Funnily enough, "turkey" in russian is "ind'eyka" (from India) where she is also not from. Whe're not gonna talk about ethnonym.
@BurnBird1
@BurnBird1 3 года назад
Swedish, along with some other Germanic languages call turkeys "Kalkon" which is a contraction of "Calcutta" (the Indian port city) and "hen", so basically "Hen from Calcutta. Not that they came from India or even Calcutta for that matter like you said.
@yanikkunitsin1466
@yanikkunitsin1466 3 года назад
@@BurnBird1 Fitting user name :) yea, in French it's "dinde" which is shortend form of "poule d’Inde" - Indian hen. According to some sources it's because of an old word for conquered territories in Americas - West Indies. But then... Calcutta? By analogy? Strange. Then there is also Muscovy duck from Mexico. Yeah, people were strange.
@BurnBird1
@BurnBird1 3 года назад
@@yanikkunitsin1466 It's pretty funny how this simple bird got so many misleading names, out of all the numerous animals which came out of the discovery of America. Especially since Turkey isn't really eaten outside of North America (at least to my personal experience), at least not to a significant degree.
@yanikkunitsin1466
@yanikkunitsin1466 3 года назад
@@BurnBird1 christmas turkey tradition in UK (Thanksgiving leftovers?), but apart from that yeah. I don't like it personaly for strange sulphuric and ferrous undertones that you can't taste even in game birds. There are a lot of domestic birds that are way tastier than turkey. My guess is it's popular for weight/feed/buck ratio, like modern US broiler chickens that can't even walk properly because they where bred for breast meat. And I would eat every part of the chicken(including feet, fried Chinese-style) apart from breasts. That's diet fads that bred this abominations :)
@joboring8397
@joboring8397 3 года назад
The "Endless" Knot? Ha! I bet Alexander the Great could prove your knot to be not so endless!
@Alliterative
@Alliterative 3 года назад
😆
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