Birgit Nilsson and Leonie Rysanek, Elektra 1980 

Nope. Gertrud Grob-Prandl's and Gwyneth Jones' voices were bigger than either of these ladies'. Also Sona Cervena.

I saw Nilsson sing Turandot in Wiesbaden and it's true, they had to bring d own the fire curtain to get the audience to leave.

...es wäre tatsächlich grotesk, würde Frau Netrebko Hazard spielen wollen. Im Vergleich zu einem deutschen Tenor hat sie sich bisher jedoch nicht an Partien gewagt, die für ihre Stimme nicht taugen. Ob einem das jeweilige Ergebnis gefällt oder nicht, ist eine andere Frage. Ich bin mir jedenfalls sehr sicher, daß Frau Netrebko, auch wg ihrer mangelnden Deutsch Kenntnisse, diesen künstlerischen Suizid nicht begehen wird. Gruß!

@@mk5244 Wo Sie recht haben, haben Sie recht. Der von Ihnen angesprochene Deutsche Tenor singt tatsächlich deutlich über seinen Möglichkeiten. Bald dürfen wir seinem Tristan in München lauschen, Anja Harteros an seiner Seite, was es auch nicht erwartungsvoller macht. Die Aida Anna Netrebkos, der ich zuhören konnte, war so grottenschlecht, dass das Eintrittsgeld für diese Vorstellung hätte zurückgefordert werden müssen. Meine Sympathie hat werde ihre Stimme und ihre Persönlichkeit schon gar nicht. Wie sagte vor Monaten in München jemand zu mir: Diesem Paar, also ihrem Ehemann und ihr, haftet einfach etwas parvenuehaftes und billiges an. Das trifft es wohl.

@@petertenten5174 ....tatsächlich hat meine Gesangslehrerin Frau Netrebko schon sowohl „sehr gut als auch sehr schlecht“ erlebt. Ich plane meinen Konzert/Opernkalender - auch nach Corona- nicht nach Frau Netrebko und Ehemann. Den Eindruck, den Sie beschreiben, habe ich auch. Gruß!

Oder zu weinen.Ich habe Nilsson oft gehoehrt : Keine wie sie !!!

Then she was sixty. Others were past their prime with forty

Actually, it was "I can still hear Frau Schumann-Heink" after she had criticized the music asking "What is this racket?"

@@SilfredoSerrano ahahah Wasn't she right, though?

@@Tkimba2 No, she was wrong.

@@SilfredoSerrano ahaha we can't even imagine the effect that a messy sonic circus like elektra could have had on people's mind in 1909

Nilsson ne chante plus toujours très juste et Rysanek est en méforme vocale. Il fallait les voir et les entendre 15 ans plus tôt. Mais c'est mieux que rien

Ronald Johnson If you heard her in ‘66 you might change your mind.

It's magnificent.

Dubbed??

@@mikaelb7735 If you look carefully the music and the mouths are not in sync. Maybe another fault, but something is technically off.

Yes i see that. But it is not "dubbed" only a diff in sound and movement/picture. A thing that can happen. Not a "guarantee" for perfection beeing filmed at MET. Dubbing, not to be arrogant, is when language f ex in an amercan movie is changed, by other actors voice, in to f ex german.

@@mikaelb7735 Your definition is way too narrow. All the old opera movies were dubbed by the singers after the action. Corelli in particular almost never sang on TV live but insisted on dubbing.

Yes Ransome i know. But that is not the case with the clip from the production we are talking about.

It sounds fine to me.

A pity you didn't listen her when she was 40. The greatest Bruennhilde and Isolde EVER !!!!!!!

You’re correct. I attended one of the performances in this 4-performance run. Yes, it was incredible that two older sopranos could manage these roles after decades of singing the most punishing roles. But if you didn’t know their names were Nilsson and Rysanek, you’d say, wow, that’s not good singing. Loud, but not much more. Nilsson, flat; Rysanek, sharp. But as you said, who cares! It was still wonderful to see them. As far as Elektra, I was infinitely more thrilled by Behrens & Voigt, and Jones & Evans.

@@jorgeloffler9567 I never saw Flagstad onstage, but she sure sounded a lot better as Brunnhilde and Isolde, in my opinion.

@@wotan10950 I think it depends what you are looking for, as well as tessitura. I don’t think Flagstad could have sung Turandot or even the latter parts of Siegfried like Nilsson did. Flagstad could also be a bit lethargic in delivery, whereas Nilsson was more energetic. Both were great though.

James Levine.

What a perv. @@mvjonsson

Did you ever hear her live? I did - and was in fact on the stage with her - close up you heard some strange sounds but the real thing happened out in the hall where her voice came from the walls and ceiling. No recording - no matter how good - comes close to what that voice was in a live performance.

Thank you

@@samthiel9824 I think she is really trying to keep her tongue as far forward as possible here.