I grew up in Pennsylvania, which at the time, had Blue laws, and I loved it. Moving to Illinois was shocking to me how busy Sundays are: so many people mowing lawns and doing other yard work, grocery and other shopping, ball games and other sporting activities. I have been in Illinois now for 45 years and I still miss that quiet Sunday under the Blue laws. I personally make sure that all of my work is completed by Saturday night so that I would not be tempted to work Sunday, which can make Saturdays very busy and exhausting, but it is worth it.
would you be talking about Cook County, Illinois? That "realm ... of those who have rejected spiritual values by yielding to bestial appetites or violence, or by perverting their human intellect to fraud or malice against their fellowmen" I moved out of there quick! Everybody is on the make or take mode.
I was remembering how neighbors helped each other when I was a kid. Someone would call and offer to pick up groceries, or my Mom would send someone a loaf of bread. So much community. By Sunday if it wasn't done, or if you hadn't bought it, you didn't need it. Mass, breakfast, Sunday paper, family time. Peace. Parents are gone now and my siblings and I are retired. We've reclaimed our Sundays from our former frenzies. Peace again.
I found this discussion most interesting. Late in life, I discovered real freedom, unlike the freedom that appealed to me as a young man. Grounding myself in deep faith is so freeing, and as Bishop Barron shares, is an adventure. As we surrender totally to God, we have the opportunity to live a life incomprehensible to our culture, focused on the values that are so precious to God.
Sohrab Ahmari implies support for a kind of state imposed Catholicism. He doesn't always come out and say it right out, but he is a Catholic integralist authoritarian. He ignores all economic insights, and basic human natural rights that has come from our Catholic tradition, and instead wants to impose his version of Catholicism onto everyone.
@@marypinakat8594 alexander hislop was right. babylon (may ALLAH curse them!) -> assyria -> canaan -> khāmat (ancient egypt) -> helos (ancient greece) -> roma, which to this day remains pagan
Wow, what an intense conversation! Very appropriate for Father’s Day. Sohrab Ahmari is taking that role very seriously, a lot of men can learn from his thoughts, his predicament raising children at this time in our life when people have social media & material possessions for their gods. Scary world!🙏
Yes, but not all material things like the Buddhists believe. Matter and material things are permitted by God to exist and thus have intrinsic goodness and value, in their proper place. Like Radiohead said, everything in its right place.
This is such an enlightening conversation that I immediately requisitioned the book from the library. Many thanks to Bishop Barron for making so much available to ordinary people, and to the author Sohrab Ahmari whose anxiety for a life of real quality for his son resonates with me.
11:55 Classical Definition of Freedom: "Freedom *from* my various attachments so I can be free *for* what's truly good. I can be liberated from my own sinfulness, my own (moral) limitation, so that I can be properly limited."
@BISH0P ROBERT BARRON why dont you believe Gods word and why would you study Greek philosophy in seminary and think that makes you qualified to be a man of God? Studying savages doesn't make one more civil.
Obispo Barron, sinceramente apreciamos sus esfuerzos para dar nueva vida y vigor a la evangelización en formas muy imaginativas y atractivas, usando material de todos los campos de la experiencia humana, estas charlas, de las artes plásticas y visuales, y la música y utilización sabiamente la tecnología para difundir el mensaje de Señor ampliamente en todo el mundo.Dios lo bendiga por ello
In his book Radical Sacrifice, Terry Eagleton writes: To will the dissolution of the self is at the same time to rise above it, since only the staunchest of wills is capable of disposing of itself so courageously. He goes onto say: If sacrifice is often violent it is because the depth of change it promises cannot be a matter of smooth evolution or simple continuity. What a great discussion this was by three of God’s messengers. I’m anxious to read this book.
Love this discussion for so many reasons, but perhaps what grieves my heart the most is feeling that my two sons never had the opportunity to be initialized into their manhood, their community, and a life of faith. Whereas, when I attended the bat mitzvah of a friend’s daughter, I was in tears seeing how they followed their traditions, and thus their children have this warm security blanket of belonging somewhere. But I hold on to God’s ultimate Grace and Mercy for my sons, and other boys trying to understand their place in the world of men and women. *** BTW, I would love to know how Bishop Barron addresses the men’s rights movement. I recently became more aware of how many men are reacting to feminism in angry ways, to the point of regressing to views of women as less than them.. We are in interesting times. Thank you for providing this forum. PS Sohrab, I am married to an Iranian who is nominally Muslim. Where can I read more of your story into Catholicism?
I pray for the revelation of Christ's love to extend to your cherished ones. Acts 16:31 promises, "Believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you shall be saved, you and your house." There are other promises in the scripture. The "believing wife sanctifies the unbelieving husband..." Know that your prayers are the delight of God the Father and his Son is "at his right hand, ever living to make intercession" for us. May you and yours be richly blessed in all revelation and peace in the Holy Christian Faith.
@@carlosreira413 That’s what I’m hoping for: to be the one who will be expiating for her family. My children and my ex husband are non-believers and that passage from the Bible gives me hope that they will be saved at one point in their life.😇✝️
Grateful to you, Your Excellence Bishop Robert Barron, for continuing to shepherd your followers by serving ✨ as a light in the darkness. Profoundly stimulating and intricately complex, this discussion will invite listeners to reconsider their views and values as through a novel and dynamically brilliant diamond with arrays of truths simultaneously radiating in various directions with multiple nuances. Love in the Holy Spirit, knows that to be adept in understanding is to forego the comfort of resting in our own assumptions. Pursuing great values in the abstract, is of greatest value when these values affect particular actions and decisions, especially as it relates to what we do for the poor, the abandoned, the exiles, and others in need of care. The Word of Our Lord, isn't it there to become the living word, moving in action, inspiring hearts towards care, especially, for those most in need, yet, also for one's enemies, those who disagree with us and who are against us.
When I was a kid I loved Sunday. My mom and my 3 brothers and I always spent the day together in the mountains or going for car rides, then my mom would make a special dinner. Fried chicken, mashed potatoes or pot roast. She never did any work on Sunday as much as possible. I try to emulate that as much as possible these days...
I cannot wait for this one🙌🏻🙏🏻🎉Sohrab is amazing…currently reading his new book…his first book was one I could not put down. God bless him! Great call WOFI
Extremely engaging conversation here! Thank you! What touched my soul really was the wisdom of God that is nestled down deep inside the human experience of LIFE...the true life we are meant to exhuberantly enjoy! Wonderful opportunity to learn so much about how intricate connections are woven together by outstanding figures in history and religion, philosophy and even politics to make an understandable tapestry that we can take a step back from and admire!
Women have a voice and choices where we want to be and how to get there. We also have legs to kick and walk out of abusive situations. It is how we seek God for his Will and wisdom.
I really enjoyed listening to this talk. I summed it up as; learn all you can about life, morality and well being, and become a leader of your own life and not a follower of others... Life is what you make it, and it can be very rewarding and beautiful...
Gee wilikers...when I compare Wokism "philosophy" enrapturing the culture, with real, intellectual philosophic vistas, I almost feel compelled to burst into tears.
Thank you for sharing this very interesting piece of literature. I found it to be eye opening on so many levels, so much so that I can't wait to read his book. God Bless you all.
On the subject of sexuality, around 1963 June Carter and another artist wrote for her husband Johnny Cash to perform the song, 'Ring of fire.' Social Distortion does an awesome cover version. The lyrics begin with, 'Love, is a burning thing...' In the fourth chapter of the first letter of the Apostle John, the disciple Jesus loved wrote, '...God is Love...' The author of the letter to the Hebrews wrote, referencing the Torah, '...God is a consuming fire...' 'God is Love.' 'God is a consuming fire.'. Love is a burning thing. June Carter was right. Perhaps she was inspired. I love how people have compared sex within marriage as fire in a fire place. Within, it generates warmth and inspiration and fascination and to a lesser degree light. Fire outside a fire place though (staying with the analogy-fornication, adultery, artificial contraception, IVF, polygamy, polyandry, polyamory, etc.), say on a wooden floor, or furniture, or in a wall-can be very destructive and dangerous. In consummating a marriage man and woman potentially participate in one of the most storied attributes of God, that of Creator. I hope people largely abandon the frivolity with which many now approach it. Bishop Barron, you are regularly in my prayers. Thank you!
As a recent convert from Protestantism, I heartily agree with your comment, Sohrab, that the 1982 Catechism is a ‘beautiful document’ and much under-rated by many ‘traditionalist’ Catholics. Thank you all.
Forgive me for bringing this up but it comes to mind as I listen to this excellent discussion. If the Catholic Church wishes to inspire people towards sacred rituals (Something sorely missing in the Western World today) I urge them to proactively reach out with healing support to the First Nations groups in British Columbia and the vulnerable minorities in the San Joaquin Valley of California (among other locations). Action against evil is pertinent to spiritual enlightenment and healing which obviously is the sincere goal of these earnest men. Once healing of the sheep is properly prioritized I believe the church’s light will shine brightly once again.
My take-away from this exchange: There is no possibility of meaning to life without transcendance and no possibility of transcendance without seeking meaning. Thank you for such depth of distinctions. Levis Shalom
Great conversation. Y’all need a table like Hollywood Reporter round tables so you can look at each other without Bish having to crank his head. You’ve got the camera set up. ;)
Good stuff. I liked Ahmari’s subtle shutter when Bishop mentioned he “loved Fight Club”. But it’s totally true. Without the Sacrifice of the Mass we stay on a state of angst and prepubescent adolescence unable to reach out and be the vessels we were ordained by God to be. I don’t expect Barron to know this( nor do I ask) I’ve seen the continual extortion and temptation the world continuously ushers man into trying to coerce a profit. I experienced it early on and I know I was not the only one. “Just do this...it’s okay” “Now. Destroy them. Your the victim.” It’s the Devil’s master plan. Coerce God’s creation into perversion and then victimization so that we may destroy each other. Viva Jesu Christie!
So true what is said about the Sabbath ....I feel the same has occurred with the holy days of obligation.The majority have been transferred to Sundays....they are no longer "special" days.Before we realise it Christmas Day & Easter will have disappeared in the same way.
Bishop, what is your opinion on Biden potentially being denied communion? It seems this is becoming a greater and greater issue with each passing day. I interned for Ted Lieu, a Catholic Congressman who represents my district, first on his 2014 campaign and then in his DC office. He called the USCCB hypocritical for condemning Joe Biden on his abortion stance but not Bill Barr for supporting the death penalty. I feel this is getting out of hand. What are your thoughts?
Catholics must rise to the moment during the crises (post)modernity is causing. The Church and Faith is haemorrhaging its flock, all the while we actually possess and safeguard the spiritual truth. Whether the problem is the council, the interpretation of the council, or the culture is for the time being irrelevant. Catholics must do better. We must do better. Intellectuals like Barron and Ahmari are providing some of the answers
No need to be a doomer. Church global membership is growing quickly. It’s only in the decadent west that people are falling away. I agree that it’s a problem. But it’s no bigger a problem than the Reformation was, as an example. God’s church will always endure
For the record, I agree not to be a doomer- as it is contra to the theological virtue of hope. God is in control, but we also have free will and how far we cooperate with his grace is on us. But reckon with reality and serve Christ and his Holy Church. Restore tradition and the perennial wisdom of the Apostolic Faith
I am pretty sure now that the Catholic CHurch will be the only and final Christian bulwark under the coming trials. It is not hemorrhaging like other Christian sects. In fact, my particular parish in the heart of the least churched region of the US is filled to overflowing and growing consistently. The sacraments and joyous power of the Holy Spirit anchor us while offering security and encouragment. The protestant churches here dont have the sacraments to adhere to and it is now showing painfully. People are leaving because they are not being sustained or guided in any united or consistent way. I was one such person and am in the Catholic CHurch precisely because it has in full, every good and perfect gift from the Father of Lights to cheer us on.
Including churches and look to Numbers 15: 32-36 for an appropriate punishment for transgressors. No one is stopping you sitting in church all day, just mind your own business and let the rest of us get on with our lives.
@@brianwalsh7352 The post was "everything" should be closed. Churches are a sub set of "everything". The fact that churches are not classified as "businesses" is a non sequitur.
@@brianwalsh7352 Ask Krista, it is they not me who is advocating for the closure of "everything". I agree with you that it is asinine nonsense. So my suggestion is that her church remains open and she lets the rest of us get on with our lives.
@@brianwalsh7352 Because they have a bumper book of magic and mythology that they is reading from, that says that if we don't do what the bronze age mythological baby killer deity tells us in that book, we are all going to be tortured for eternity, in a place invented by early church leaders to instill fear, as a means to keep the gullible believing and paying their tithes. I am happy for them to sit in their church and believe whatever they want. All I ask is that they leave the rest of us alone to get on with our own lives.
Each life is patch work quilt picture, woven one thread at a time as we go through life. The picture is very, very messy looking at from the back…at the end of life, the quilt is turned over.the picture emerges..each thread is important and the beauty emerges. Every happening, good, bad or indifferent is reflected. You can see how each thread is important to the entire picture..God is involved in the complete picture.
Would love to see you converse with Anthony Esolen! His work seems to dovetail with a lot of your evangelizing through the Good, the True, and the Beautiful.
At the time they were debating lifting the blue laws I worked for a major retail chain. The management brought a petition to the lunch area and asked us to sign it. It was against opening stores on Sunday. They didnt want the blue laws lifted. So don't blame major retail chains. The drive to lift the blue laws wasn't coming from them.
Mother of Perpetual Help Ps 34:8, Mt 6:34 O Mother of Perpetual Help, I implore Thee to come to my aid always and everywhere, in my temptations, after my falls, in my difficulties, in all the miseries of life, and above all, at the hour of my death. Our Father…Hail Mary…Glory Be...Amen
I wholeheartedly agree that true freedom is found in striving to follow God’s law and not my own ends. But don’t you think perhaps “Common Good” could rob someone of the opportunity to discover this profound reality as equally as it could direct another towards it? Is it possible that these guide rails could in fact appeal directly to the will as opposed to transcending it and rob a person of true conversion.
It’s God control when I ene raced other sins I’m the one if they remember who’s mocking me but still I love them but if they keep doing again! It’s a bad intentions now they will see to think this time I will respect their decisions .. until my satisfactions .. so now this is a lessons from all of us who I embraced all the way and excited to see our father who Create us ...
In a culture that is partially in to productivity, to much productivity leads to burn out. I am referencing the tech world and RU-vid productivity influencers.
Great broadcast. Thank you. And if the Catholic liturgies were reverent and serious, something that are really special, rather than akin to 'catching up with your friends', they would be different and more elevated from the usual humdrum of everyday life. Thus, I just can't figure why Bishop Barron does not actively promote the Latin liturgies that have become so much more magnetic to the faithful in recent times. And not just the old folks, in fact, largely it's become an important thing for younger folks.
The ritual compels the moral order, and the fact of a living God compels the ritual. The ritual without the truth incarnate is empty gesture. Catholics believe in the real presence. The ritual is a natural ecretion of the real presence.
To Whom It May Concern: I have a question that maybe only a Theologist can answer. What does the word, "-Ominism-' mean? Does that mean trying to force all people in the world into only 1 religious worship of the Lord rite[right] or what?
Bp. Barron, (letting guard down) "I cannot think of anything more boring than shear freedom, what is proposed as the great goal of everything, to be free (smile and confused distain), ho hum, I am just seeing this aimless, who am I?, what do I do?, I mean I'll decide?!, I mean I'll decide (incredulously) what do I know?...So get past this boring pure freedom stuff and this Nietzschean self-invention, bore me to death with that. But having been introduced to the world of values, now you've got a role to play...it's not this vapid, boring freedom, it's the real freedom that the Tradition opens up." ...For all the good and effort Bp. Barron puts into his work, this comes across as a weariness toward "others" who would dare to (while making mistakes) think and grow in a way independent and unfamiliar to him. God bless Bishop Barron and diversification of thought, and thanks for this amazing interview.
Most of the country is thinking and growing in a way independent (not unfamiliar) to him... He's just saying Hey when you get bored with that, try this.
I have always thought very highly of you- this book looks wonderful. I have your "Catholicism" Please correct your statement to ben Shapiro about heaven, to get to heaven is only thru Christ. Sincerely irene Williams
You have read about me I have taken political asylum in this country I've been worried for five years No one has helped me yet I need help so much brother I am not a beggar I'm worried about my situation I have no one in this country I'm alone Help me for god's sake I'm very worried Can I leave this country? Because I am very worried in this country Here again you do me a favor Brother, I really need four things No food + I have no clothes + I don't have a house to live in Need some cooking utensils You can't even think How can I survive in such a situation? I have nothing help me brother god bless you
Bishop Barron seems to slip right through without explicitly saying that he endorses the return of Blue Laws or is against them. I wonder if the topic makes him uncomfortable. 🤔
Hey joe I just want to ask you a question did you loose the Holyspirit because that’s what happend to me God is gone he’s no longer their I cant feel him it’s been months I still pray nothing has happend please respond
Hi Brother and Sister Help me I'm very worried I really need help I'm just worried about my situation I've been worried for five years No one has helped me yet I also want to do something in my life Please help me God bless you
Solzhenitsyn on suffering: And that is why I turn back to the years of my imprisonment and say, sometimes to the astonishment of those about me: “Bless you, prison!”… (And from beyond the grave come replies: It is very well for you to say that-when you came out of it alive!) Jesus suffering: "Father, if thou art willing, remove this cup from me; nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done." And there appeared to him an angel from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly; and his sweat became like great drops of blood falling upon the ground. Intellectuals sipping tea: Felix culpa. Adventure! Boring. Now let me tell you what God would or would not have done in the Garden of Eden.
@@prayunceasingly2029 :-) It's Bishop Barron's weakness. Lately, from the videos I've seen of him here and on other channels, he seems to operate from the metaphor of adventure in his intellectual discussions, when the Church clearly uses the metaphor of spiritual warfare to describe our life here on earth. This, in my opinion, is what causes him to fail when dealing with suffering. When that young atheist guy was talking about suffering, he was seeing the spiritual warfare that he didn't even know existed. Talking about adventure and keeping things purely intellectual doesn't make any sense of suffering. Talking about saints being "fully alive" in adventure is nonsense to the uninitiated because the martyrdom that made them saints also made them fully dead here on earth. When Bishop Barron told that story about a woman (who suffered greatly) asking a priest why all the suffering, and the priest answered something like, "well it brought you to the Church", the story makes complete sense on its own if you have in mind the Church's role in this spiritual warfare. You certainly would not add an aside that makes the priest's response purely intellectual like saying, "the priest must have known that she was ready to hear that" or something along those lines. Bishop Barron hasn't gone *"Felix culpa"* in his public discussions yet, but it's probably just a matter of time. My opiniom is that *"Happy Mary's 'Yes'"* is better, but what do I know. As you can see, this comment is already very long and I've barely just begun. I wrote the original in that way because it hopefully has a "grab you by the lapels" quality. I doubt my feeble intellectual arguments will pierce through his intellectual armor. But the stark contrast of Jesus sweating blood and intellectuals sipping tea saying "Felix culpa" just might get through. Dare I hope. ;-)
Mr Ahrmari. As much as I like you and many of your ideas, I am aghast. You are worried about your son's permanent boyhood? What about his permanent salvation?
@@marypinakat8594 It was a powerful discussion. But I thought the discussion failed to include the most important matter which is not the salvation of society but the salvation of souls.
Regarding BENEDICT XVI: "We will succeed (in doing so) only if reason and faith come together in a new way, if we overcome the self-imposed limitation of reason to the empirically falsifiable, and if we once more disclose its vast horizons."- BENEDICT XVI 9-14 Sept 2006. What this suggests is that the pragmatic though un-falsifiable soft-guidance of the church be mixed with the hard-won and inspired falsifiable sciences. This is completely unacceptable as the one saves the other and visa versa in the present moment, and will continue to do so into the future. They are like oil and water. The sciences, given momentum and real value through the perseverance and consistency of purpose of men and women, must forever remain sterilized of all theology. Anything less is shameful.
