Bishop Barron: Word on Fire 

MsHburnett Catholic mass or Anglican mass

The Bible promises us that we were made for suffering (among other things).

@@MsHburnett One thing protestants overlook is that many Roman Catholics learn the meaning of the Latin words spoken in church. (I learned this from my Roman Catholic husband.

Very good

@Ulrich Zwingli Well, this virtue thing could be debated (Hilter had by far more supporters among Protestants than among Catholics). And the Church cannot excommunicate the dead by the way, just as she cannot unexcommunicate them either. Latin is not a cult, it's a language the heritage of the Western World of Thought. The West 's foundation are Golgatha (Religion), Athens (Philosophy) and Rome (Law). You do not need Latin to be a virtous person, but it helps to understand the roots you live on.

I love the way you put that....hyperdrive indeed! If you haven't already, check out the Dominicans. The Thomistic Institute RU-vid channel is good solid teaching, nothing dumbed down. Search for Fr Thomas Joseph White and Fr Gregory Pine.

fragwagon, thanks for the resource:)

Very nice. Thank God people are still thinking. Not only disregarding.

Peter Kreeft

Father Ripperger

Scott Hahn's pretty good. I bet they'd have some interesting things to exchange about symbolism.

@@Tyrannosaurus_5000 You've played yourself thinking that Catholic apologetics is in any way "soft philosophy". Or that Jordan's followers are somehow disinterested in it.

Scott Hahn is a worthy dialogue partner

Could you image a relm where GK got to join this conversation! Oh man.

@@CathDad4 Chesterton and Belloc.

"Christianity has not been tried and found wanting, it has been found difficult and left untried." GKC, from What's Wrong With the World :)

I'm here to simplify things... as prophesied

🔥🔥🔥

@@dsshakespeare That's true. Well said

Student loan haha

DSShakespeare Not to mention spreading the ultimate lie of Eternal Torment. (From the perspective of Christian's believing in a good God.)

Ulrich Zwingli Lol, and yet here he is. Talking with Jordan Peterson. Learn more real history and you can talk

DS Shakespeare Grow up. Christianity is Catholicism and the Christianity is the Church for 2,000 years. Which of the 55,000+ Protestant denominations do you belong to, or are you an atheist know-it-all

@Ulrich Zwingli What??? You've been in his bedroom? Cult Clown in a dress?? C'mon, stop being silly. The original Zwingli preached repentance, so you should walk the righteous line of speech.

@@cachinnation448 Hahaha...you missed both the point and his bedroom. The latter is a figure of speech, to understand that you may gain some benefit from listening to some of BB OTHER Utube talks and compare them. See the comments below many of them. Good luck!

@@cachinnation448 You obviously don't read much. JP's advice to Bishop Barron is to start changing the world, by first cleaning his room. Hypocrites, and snakes are the den of iniquity and power of institutional theocracy; so, dear Bishop Barron's a nasty shill for Joseph Ratzinger! Think! Or, is thoughtful metaphor and IRONY too deep for a shallow thinking Catholic?

Seeing the comments above it seems that some people are ideologically possessed by some of the ideas of JBP blinding them from his full message. I'd prefer a clown in a dress any time, at least a clown in a dress tries to cheer up his/her audience unlike the ideologically possessed.

@@BlacksmithTWD Cheer up an audience? That's what comedians do! The bishop, historically, was a symbol of: authoritarian fascist greed. The Catholic Cult owned the idea of hate and licentiousness since 325 A.D.! No partner, the clown in a dress is still a symbol of hate, temporal power, nasty licentiousness. CAN I GET, AN AMEN?!

Watch out for your ass...

Are you a Kiwi or something? It's Saturday!

@@Talrdhd Huh. So how does the Catholic Church treat the Sabbath? Is there a special Mass?

@@afonsodeportugal *

H.P life is suffering

Yes they are, but none is what they seem to be. They are better.

Very underrated giants.

So many 'I am the smartest' people nowadays

Jim Luebke that was my favorite part! Haha I thought someone else would get a kick out of that exchange.

What kind of woke nonsense?

@@aaronbritton5240 If this were one with the woke nonsense it would have gone something like this. "JP: "The philosopher, ah, German philosopher, what's his name" ,RB "Did you just assume their gender? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

I loved that moment too! Great minds...soooo good listening to them

Awesome unity in thoughts

God bless you, Marco

when i go to the theatre i suss it out and like to sit somewhere in the middle. god told me the sound is best there

calling yourself a fanatic is not the best thing, you know.

@OkayGotIt - I know he meant well :P

@OkayGotIt oh no, you were quite polite, don't worry.

Literally there is a generation gap, Young want substance while aging hippies seek feelings.

Rocking out to Jesus is dumb. I’ve always thought that. A traditional service makes my soul swell with the spirit of the Lord

Aye they seek death but twas fortold death would flee

tlockerk Agreed. I discovered the Traditional Latin Mass this summer while home from college... The implementation of Vatican 2 was horrific... The vocations are up in the traditional seminaries... slowly the tides are turning.

@@zayan6284 modern invention worshipper ala evangelical vs true liturgy.

I process the stories as useful myths and metaphors in the same way I see the psychological value in meditation for (other) people without having to believe in metaphysical transcendence.

@@gavwan I think that the case for the transcendent and the ground for value in Person has been demonstrated very well by philosophers like Ed Feser. God makes sense of reality.

@@tommore3263 Thanks I haven't listened/read much of Feser since I find his Aristotle 'pure actual actualizer' theory a stretch from a group of agents (people not Gods) working within a system (physics/biology) to make things change. I'll give him another try

Careful, careful Sean. Your soul may be yearning for that part of you that you've denied as an atheist.

So happy for you

j juttelstad sure, a pray will help. Why not donate money to cancer research: it’s proven to help ❤️

@@dennisrydgren both are certainly nessicary

Dennis. Cancer research is another industry that needs cleaning up. Spending OPM like the red double cross, world vision etc... has shown your money is spent on large salaries and private jets etc... way more than any research. Treatment, yes, cures not so much. Suppression of GCmaf etc.... and you will get an eye opener. Big Pharma is big business and is about money, not the greater good.

What happened to her ?

I am worried about that whole situation. I think it is weighing on him heavily and is something that is really unforeseen and would be a whole new thing for him to deal with.

Good call, jhl365. I have the same concern for our friend.

I created an account just so I could reply in agreement with this comment.

Really needs to

I mean, I don't know the man's life, but it certainly has appeared that way to me for a little while now.

I agree. Jordan, we love you and some of us are worried about your workload in the last couple of years.

Sometimes I get angry at god if he exists (not sure myself). Exactly what JBP warns about, but I can't help it. Right now I'm saying fuck you God!!! Why is Tammy Peterson extremely sick?????!!!!!! JBP and Tammy deserve more good to happen than anyone!!!! FUCK!!!!!!!!!

@@mikimiyazaki Read the bible. I just started and so many answers are coming my way. Start with John and read straight through to the end of Romans. But as for your anger, bear in mind that God isn't the ruler of this world. Be angry at the ruler -the one who has set the rules and made it so that this planet is a bloodbath. Don't be angry at God.

@@ThePANDA1885 im an agnostic, but was raised as JBP enlightened me under Christian values as I was born and raised in the US. I believe there is and isn't a "god", and also believe that while there's no way to verify until after I'm dead if there is or isn't anything after life. I need to curse something for JBP and Tammys misfortune as Jordan and Tammy are in the caring professions because they truly care about people and the problems we face. JBP alone has helped millions of people in some way (and counting), so why the fuck does this have to happen to a man who probably deserves a Nobel prize!!!!! "Fuck you God, send me to hell for cursing you cause I don't care!!!!!!" Is how I strongly feel when I think about poor Tammy and JBP.

@@mikimiyazaki It's definitely ok by God to care so deeply for JP and his wife Tammy Your thoughts are shared by many as we all want them to be ok. Jordan is still searching for God and has been very vocal about his decisions to allow God to change his heart . He has changed a lot of his views on his belief in God and has decided to have FAITH that He exists . More can be done in your life if you choose faith as opposed to unbelief.

Reality has proven over and over again to exceed human imagination.

Exactly. Catholicism ...despite all our many failings.. is the only fully coherent worldview extant from every possible perspective from history to philosophy to psychology and theology. She is the fullness present to us as a gift from the final cause or purpose of existence, BEING Himself, God, Love.

I am not Catholic, but I do believe that Catholicism does the best job of discussing the more subtle issues. However, the above sentence should not be interpreted too positively. What I admire so much about Bishop Barron is his public expression of not understanding everything. While the following comment is one of ignorance as a non-Catholic, the Catholic Church strikes me as presenting itself as having an accurate understanding of God (irrespective of Bible versus saying that no one does). Now, I can steel man that stance by saying that maybe people at one time wanted to have an “authority” (argument from authority) to go to... and the Catholic Church feels bound to present itself in that manner. Yet, I believe today’s US individual would much prefer the deeper Jordan Peterson discussion. At the core, I have always thought that the place to start is with the universe’s existence, not with the Bible. By addressing the issue that one must have faith to believe that (1) a creator that exists outside of time and space and it was that creator that made the universe, evolution, etc, (2) the universe has always existed without reason, or (3) something in the natural world can come from nothing. Any choice one makes, the choice is one of faith, not science. Member’s of the church have chosen to believe that a creator is the best option of those choices. Then a church could go to the Bible and explain it as humanity’s attempt to grapple with the deep questions that Barron and Peterson discuss so well. I believe that Jesus Christ existed, but I don’t believe he was God... except in the metaphorical sense that we are all part of the creator. My view obviously challenges current Christianity, but I honestly don’t think Jesus dying on the cross and rising from the dead is important. The issue is that a creator made the system that made us. That is something we should respect. Out of that respect, we should seek to behave in a way that honors that creation... which means to love one another. Jordan’s interpretation of the Biblical stories does that in a the way that is beautiful.

@@StrategicWealthLLC Why not steel man the Church's actual stance? Would that not be a reasonable thing to do first, understanding the POV you are trying to oppose?

@@StrategicWealthLLC I respect my Catholic brothers but the orthodox religion has all those answers without the negative aspects of catholicism

@@Lerian_V - I don’t believe I said anything that straw mans Catholicism. If I erred, my apologies. I was introduced to Barron by Dave Rubin’s show. I sincerely admire the man. I believe he is dead on regarding his philosophy... and it is only my understanding of his theology with which I struggle. Whatever the creator is, well, the creator is powerful in ways I can’t even begin to cover. Raise the dead, heal the sick, make the blind see? Big deal... relative to the tiny part of the night sky we can see. Because of that, I understand not being able to understand what people call God. What I cannot accept is a belief that God would be the God of a particular people of this tiny planet and its religion. I cannot accept that the religious prophecies of that particular group of people would be reinterpreted by a new religious sect to explain Jesus as God... in a way the old sect would and did disagree. That is particularly true given that 3 of the 4 gospels don’t have Jesus clearly proclaiming himself as God. Even with my misunderstands of specific texts in English vs Greek, those are core things that speak to a much smaller creator than anything I envision. There is no explanation for the above that doesn’t require - in my view - unjustified faith in the theology. But having justified faith in a creator is easy.

@Regen 615 You may like to read Paul Williams', "The Unexpected Way: On Converting from Buddhism to Catholicism." He was born Anglican, converted to Buddhism when he was in his twenties, became a College professor on Buddhism and converted to Catholicism still being a well known professor, when he was in his fifties. You can read also his story here: whyimcatholic.com/index.php/conversion-stories/buddhist-converts/65-buddhist-convert-paul-williams In the book he shows what things he found inconsistent about Buddhism after 30 years of studying it. He's a very nice person, I wrote to him a few months ago and answered immediately

Maria B. thank you so much for the information I will definitely look into his writings.

An epiphany may well be the culmination of your spiritual journey.

Faith is - as indicated in this interview as well - trust in a person, who is Christ, who is God. It is not irrational, and is an aid to reason, and complementary to it. But faith - just like trust in a person - is not a calculated, always measuring, always ready to withdraw thing. Just like love - which surpasses understanding, and drives and gives meaning to existence. But if God is love, our response of love and faith is just an answer to already being loved. Faith is the act that helps us do that movement of response, and love back. But sometimes it is not easy, and it necessitates grace.

As Christianity was founded in a Judaism, so Buddhism was founded in Hinduism. The great thing about both science and Buddhism is that they don't require (a) god concept(s), but don't exclude one either. Hence both can be combined with Christianity or other religions having (a) god concept(s).

Not an idea...THE idea. Pretty dang good one. (no peace💘)

They might have to since they are losing friends lol

@@stonwall9065 The sad part is, that's true. Netflix and, Hollywood in general, are so anti-Christian (but pro every other religion) that a series on the Bible would never happen. It's a shame because it would be great to see.

JZjans , haha, It just might get me to resubscribe to Netflix.

Stonewall Strategy The story of God is on Netflix. Covers a lot of Christianity in it.

Love the eastern tradition! But why not become eastern rite Catholic? Then you would be in full communion with Rome but maintain the eastern patrimony.

Douglas Cummins I stopped there before I joined the Orthodox Church.

@@shayneswenson Oh, I see! That's cool. Not trying to convert you or anything but I am really interested in understanding why. I am not familiar with the whole story of the divide that separates our traditions from each other. What was it that drew you to become Orthodox specifically?

Douglas Cummins "what was it that drew you to become Orthodox specifically?" I think the hats. The hats convey that solemn religious look you want in a faith. Very pious.

North West Thebaid 💕☦️💕

I love sane christians. They make the best ppl. All of the benefits of religion without the extremely annoying and offputting borderline insanity that many have. Like the intense self righteousness and need to “save” everything etc.

That's it. Roger Scruton is a sane Christian too.

@Allen Marlin You're what my grandmother would call a shit disturber. Lol.

@@christophersurnname9967 Well the sad part is, the extremist ones make the most noise. Most of us normal Christians are pretty chill and respectful; but the crazy ones tend to make everyone think we're insane. I'm glad for this conversation even though I'm Protestant and not Catholic.

so well put!!! thank you jack littlebig

I so agree. He recognizes how profound a commitment it is to believe and commitment one's self to God!

It very much sounds like the last ten minutes or so of rule seven in the audiobook version of 12 rules

@@ChadTheAlcoholic oh that sounds interesting, I am currently reading 12 rules and am at the end of rule 7 looking forward to that then

I think his wife is ill and he has been pretty emotional lately

When you encounter somebody who speaks what he FEELS, that happens.

Well said

I love Fr. Ripperger! He is actually from my town and I've met him ...his talks on angels and demons are fascinating

Come back home! You are always welcome!

@Twinny1011 Glad to hear that!

Maria B. 🙂

@@stonwall9065 Yes, I get that. I personally never saw him as all that wise. I am on board with his call for naturalistic explanations to the maximum extent that we can provide them, but it is precisely in that department that he falls way short. For example, his take on Free Will is pure nonsense (and yes, I know he is not the only one), even from a naturalistic/rational point of view. But he seems unable to see that, even though he acts day-to-day in a manner that contradicts his stated position (just as he fails to see the Judeo-Christian assumptions he makes all the time). And then again, his irrational side came completely out in the open with his views on Trump during the last presidential election. I mean, I get not wanting to vote for Trump, but Harris' rabid, irrational reasons and his support for Hillary Clinton (albeit not all that enthusiastic) outed him as being at least as prone as anyone else to really deep biases that he is unable to overcome not matter what the evidence actually is.

@@stonwall9065 Yea, he is not an idiot, but he still is ignorant about several concepts in Christianity I've learned about before I was 10 years old. Which makes the discussions he participates in similar to the ones I had in my teens. Same for Richard Dawkins, though at least I have learned a few things about biology from Richard and seen some interesting, decent if not good, interviews by Richard with religious people. I wish he had stuck to these interviews and making biological documentaries instead.

You hit the nail on the head, it's there shallowness, they would drown intellectually against these 2 powerhouses

Can you be more specific and explain how Richard Dawkins for example failed

@@veganworldorder9394 Dawkins is great as a popularizer (and to some extent as a scholar) of evolutionary theory. However, he is total failure as a philosopher. His take on religion is ludicrous (and mind you, as pointed out, I am an agnostic) and shows a total lack of understanding of how the world works, in particular of the Natural Law and the necessity for a normative branch thereof. For example, he (and Harris, etc...) think that something is "moral" if humans have evolved a capacity to feel it as "moral," when in fact the exact opposite is true: humans evolve moral intuitions because there is an objective, reality-driven Natural Law (natural order, same thing) against which those intuitions were selected by natural evolution. In addition, these objective moral criteria CANNOT be based on or comprehended solely on the basis of the physical sciences. It MUST take into consideration the emerging (from complexity) order of INTENTIONS, GOALS, TELOS, and FREE WILL which have no place under strict materialism/physicalism. Dawkins and Harris are complete failures in that respect. They refuse to go beyond the strictly material/physical and therefore MUST end up in the grips of immorality, or at the very least amorality. The fact that they pretend to be more moral than others because they reject religion and rely on "reason" is indicative of their profound ignorance. And if judged by how they act (versus what they say to appear cool), they don't believe any of their own pronouncements. In the end, I have to agree with Nassim Taleb who calls these guys and their ilk "entertainers." That's pretty much it.

Actually someone familiar with the original meaning of the word. Do you happen to have read Pratchett's books on the discworld or how did you become familiar with it?

What happened ?

@@commanderpipi1youknowfromp730 His wife has some very serious cancer.

@@Bleda412 thanks and thats f*** up

@islanti What I heard is that he is trying to get off an anti-anxiety medication. Anyone who follows him knows he's taken psychiatric drugs and has dealt with depression and such.

islanti “the left” as in his own daughter?

Arturo Cabello Amen!!!

Yes Arturo - me too! :)

It’s been out since last month, just on the podcast tho. Ridiculous how long it took them to drop it, literally did the talk in March, dragged out way too long.

@@matthewmayuiers I'm sure it was delayed in video editing.

Get a life and clean your room.

How complete is the delusion that beauty is goodness

@@Anicius_ Whether God is real or not is a moot point. God is a concept.

True empathy :)

@@christophermarlowe2356 Well ive seen him wear stupid slio on Vans so sure, he wears clown shoes.

@@christophermarlowe2356 Oh ok well youre clearly not a fan of peterson either if youre going to assign guilt to barron based on group guilt. Why are you even commenting

@@davidlubuulwa9709 Marlowe the atheist play-write and spy, counter-spy, and privy council to the Anglican court of Elizabeth the First.

@Stefano Provenzi thanks

what do you think Peterson means exactly when he says Christianity is too stringent for him to say he believes in God?

@@karolinasz.141 Honestly I'm not sure.. Maybe he has a more complex opinion he didn't feel like this medium would get across? What do you think?

@@EthanSchwandtTheMindMapGuy It seems like he's saying you have to follow all the rules of Christianity perfectly before you can call yourself a Christian and say you believe in God... Like you have to earn it. And I think there is an interesting point there since so many people think that only saying "I believe" is enough without doing anything.. but perhaps Jordan goes too far to the other extreme.

​@@karolinasz.141 That is such a great point.. So many people do just say 'I believe' almost in order to get it over with! Not sure about the other points as I can't speak for Jordan.. Maybe he'll see this and address it :)

@@EthanSchwandtTheMindMapGuy That would be great! haha I think he talks about it more in that Australian live show he mentioned, which he posted recently. I need to check it out!

Fix your own damn world and stop begging favors.

It's time for us all to stand up, roll up our sleeves, and work together towards that goal! First by working on ourselves (on an airplane it is suggested that we give ourselves the oxygen mask before we help someone else put on theirs). I think my personal hell and demons have me plenty busy, let alone my family's! I cannot fathom the rest of the world... :P

@@gonzalopriale3293 . What are your thoughts on Jordan's definition of God during the tour with Sam?

Troy, it is heart breaking to see and hear the anguish in Professor Peterson's face and voice, yet as you say, his clarity of thought and strength is amazing. Jordan, please take good, or better care of yourself! We all need you. Prayers and love to your wife.

What is weird is how in the world i can think that i know, with no small amount of precision, rather PRECISELY how he feels. You just keep swimming. And swimming. And swimming. What else is there in this place? If you think about it, not too much. At least, not much that has any relevance with regard to MEANING, eh?! (no peace💘)

I've been wondering why he seems to be on a perpetual brink of tears lately. It might be good for him to disappear from the public eye for a while.

Bishop Barron said they recorded this MONTHS ago. Jordan released the audio podcast in May? It's just recently he's released the YT video. I think his wife became I'll after they recorded it but before the edits. No matter to me. It was worth the wait and I continue to pray for her recovery and Jordan's peace.

Food. Wrong diet not only can man live on bread alone nor can he or she live on only beef.

Brandon Young if you are under 15 he might love you too 🥺

10:32

@@dennisrydgren Wow, what an original joke! 😄

@@JB-xp6tg Unfortunately, it's not a joke...maybe not specifically the Baron, but the church at large. It's a skepticism/criticism well founded.

@@Farkas1111 Well obviously, I'm not disputing that. It's just been a running gag for like 20 years now.

Yeah, I think so too, J.B Peterson I phenomenal and helps a lot of people. Dang, I m almost late, gotta go to the Mosk.

Imagine of they walked the pilgrimage to Chartres together and podcasted all their conversations...

I would love that!!!

It will be great...

Here's a video tour of Chartres (Notre Dame) from the series "The Cathedral" by Prof. William R. Cook. Done w animation, schematics, and real video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RtRkhL_yeu8.html

They are not "blessed by "devine" wisdom", they are two intellectuals who have read a lot of books and worked a lot to get to where they are.

Class man. Good luck in your journey

Dude that book is a guaranteed way to level up big time

@Ruby Badilla you've got a ways to go in your search for perfection in character if you believe insulting others is somehow a show of your "perfect" status. Have you read Jordan's book?

@Ruby Badilla so I am guilty of the same thing you are. Fair enough. I do hope you enjoy the rest of your day.

Ruby Badilla how does he support men “buggering” each other? Lol And dude you realise that we don’t think he is a holy prophet (although some people seem to act that way). And of course what he says is not “perfect”. But it is valuable and if you had properly read or listened to (on audible) 12 rules to life, I really don’t see how you could take issue with the things in that book.

I think that religion has a positive effect on people's lives but the effect is placebo.

Truth is never a placebo

@@cyntogia Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

@@ieyasutoku Points for the start wars reference. Otherwise, Sith are make believe, therefore not truthful.

So true! So missed nowadays!

I like the keto ideals. It's the people which are intolerable.

@@andytaylor1588 yeah it's usually that way with most things

Clampclamp

Actually funny

Like in a good porn flick!

Perhaps the Church is descending down to come back up again as both Barron and Peterson so brilliantly articulated

The Church is guided by the Holy Spirit. I believe that this century has been a Jobean trial for the Church. But spring will come again, and it will come at the hands of the Immaculate.

How so if you don't mind me asking?

he presented a completely different way of looking at christianity. one that gave me a newfound appreciation for religion, christianity espacially. i was raised christian. back then i viewed god as if he was a real person in the aether. then i became your typical obnoxious internet atheist. i had a muslim friend and was constantly trying to get him to call his faith into question. (unsuccesfully) then peterson showed up and started talking about religion in a way i had never heard. talking more about the values, and the meaning behind the stories. with the way he talked about god it felt wrong to make fun of christianity and the impact and meaning it had for the Western World. i was still atheist but became friendlier and less hostile towards religion. then finally i decided to convert back. i recently started going to church. mind you i'm not the same christian i was at the beginning. god has a different meaning to me. he's no longer real to me like he was back then. but i do try to act like he is. to put it comically: i'm pretending. and i do feel that life has more meaning now then it had when i was still a full on atheist. church is also good for me. i go outside more. and think more about my morals and actions. it wasn't just peterson though. these videos helped to convince me too. even my friend who is still a die hard atheist needed a moment after these. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-u0cKuFfYnVw.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tk62CtH6-mg.html

@@ianbirchfield5124 Nice.

spychecker I think you might enjoy this video. A young atheist has an awakening on campus interview. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_2Xi6q1B9ug.html

@@ianbirchfield5124 Thanks for letting us know. Odd combination of Vox Day and Jordan Peterson, since Vox is a huge critic of JP (wrongly I think). I can't think of anyone who has had a more profound effect on atheists in my day than JP. It's been wonderful to read all those threads where they were jonesing for the bible series to start. I hope you make it all the way back to faith and hope you do have a profound experience w/ the living God again. Nothing wrong w/ taking a rational approach to questioning your faith though, and the God does encourage this in the bible (unlike w/ islam and others). "Come let us reason together, says the Lord; though your sins be as scarlet they shall be white as snow", OR, "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge". Most Christians can't explain well why they believe. JP explains very well why one should believe or at the least act as if one does, which is a darn good start and is serving you and others very well.

Have you checked out Bishop Barron's RU-vid channel? I've been watching for almost a decade!

I think our dear Bishop benefitted from listening more than speaking. Jordan understands what our faith should be more than most of our Bishops

I felt JP didnt let the Bishop elaborate enough, which he was eagerly wanting to do, but JP would cut him off and hog the conversation. I enjoyed tremendously though.

Bishop Barron has a RU-vid channel in which he tackles all kinds of issues.

That great to hear from someone so young, brother. I was in your exact frame of thinking when I came to faith in high school as well. Follow that thread!

Amen. John 15 is a goldmine full of diamonds and precious gems. Ok, John’s Gospel as a whole is a masterpiece.