@@kassygo1375 The black chick who played in the Battle Back with Cody, Cameron & the other white chick in Season 19 which is tied for the worst season ever along with Season 15, Seasons 15 was so forgettable because nothing really happened, the only thing that happened was that the winner happened to be homosexual making him the first openly gay man to win Big Brother, that was until Last season when Kaycee won Big Brother Season 20 and she was an openly gay woman. but you know in my opinion those 2 seasons were the worst. Season 17 was also up there just because of the pure fact that no one cared about the winner The last **GOOD** Season was Season 14, I am sorry but that season was the last good season I don't care what anyone says Dan Gheesling should've won but he didn't based on Bitter Jurors
_nyckid_ 12 had a good cast but was boring 13 was forgettable 14 had a pretty crappy jury 15 was a hot mess 16 was also boringggggg 17 was a slight improvement 18 was frustrating and p e t t y 19 was unforgivably bad didn’t even watch it
I really liked Mark and was sad he didn't make it further. Sucks that good players like him and Elena got eliminated before irrelevant pawns like Raven and Matt.
But Paul made them bitter with the way he acted, he should have accounted for that, ESPECIALLY after having faced a jury before. It's not like they were just bitter they lost, they were bitter bc of how he treated them
@joshbowman3373 I mean, all Paul needed to do to win was say in his goodbye to Jason "Hey man, sorry but I voted you out. I literally could not beat you in the end, hope you understand this is out of respect" Instead he said "WOAH WHAT? HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?"
I don't really remember her season, but I had the feeling that maybe she had a crush on some of the guys but Nicole got their attention instead, so she took that jealousy and made it all about how Nicole was a bad player, etc...She just seemed like the petty jealous type...
lac92576 Michele just kind of hates women. Even after the show it’s still evident. She did a game of Sequester online with RHAP members and she was openly targeting only women and was very shady about them for no reason
There was like..... Threeeeee..... Decent people..... But..... That's debatable.... I feel like Dominique, Cody, and Jess. I mean, I think Mark is okay.... Elena is a snob.... To be fair....I have not seen the season, just going off this, jury segment vids, and compilation videos... So maybe I'm way wrong
It had so many housemates that could've been good players like Elena, Mark, Jason, Cody, even Kevin. But Paul came in and completely changed the house dynamic.
jordan didnt play until final 3 tbh. laura is the one to try to safe braden, jeff gave her hoh, at least porche woke up in the right time to crash jeff's dream of winning bb
@@immanuelak2643Porsche was awake since the first dani hoh, she literally only laid low due to having a gold key, which worked out well to her, in contrary to Dani who literally tried to make a backdoor while literally not having any power and needing to win hoh to stay safe
i disagree because i think that Jordan has a outstanding social game unlike Porsha who obviously people easily forgot about. I still think Porsha's game fine, but i think jordan had a really good game.
Will was the only one in history of BB that every truly understood the game while playing it and even after getting evicted, baffled me how ppl still don't get it after 20 seasons, LYING IS PART OF THE GAME all idiots smh
tim mutohfan dan played far too aggressively. It really pissed a lot of people off and even made me frustrated. Ian played a good game too. He was loyal to his alliance until the end
"it really pissed a lot of people off", is only making my statement that bitter juries steal people's money true. pointing out that ian was loyal to his alliance (which he wasn't, by any means) is yo justifying them doing what they did. using feelings as a motivator to take away from dan outplaying 2 seasons of bb is petty. just like those two meatheads coming up with reasons why their lying and treachery is more noble than dan's cuz reasons are reasons. bunch of horseshit, and why i lost most interest in the game. dick pissed people off, why didn't they give the win to danielle? because they realized the game was no longer about them.
tim mutohfan Dans game play to push himself was phenomenal. But in Big Brother you have to be able to make sure the jury likes you or else you’re not getting that vote. Dan stabbed people hard in the back and yeah it was smart, but if you screw people over, they’re not going to forget it, game or not. Ian was well liked and he stabbed people in the back without bringing religion into it
yeah considering they should know that jury management is important from the beginning, it's not stealing anyone's money. you have to keep that in mind when people start going to jury. it's part of the game.
No one ever talks about how bitter Michelle was just the fact that Paul lost which in my opinion was the right decision because Nicole played a better game
I always love when Dr. Will calls out the BB19 Jury for being a bunch of sore losers; none of them cared about gameplay, and operated on how they felt.
Look how much less heated and interesting the jury roundtables are as the show progressed... The seasons have gotten worse and worse lol. I hope we get some of the old charm of BB back and they cast people who want to win instead of people who want instagram followers.
I'm fine with entitled millennials being on the show. They can bring drama. But when it's the entire cast, it's just redundant. We need more age-diversity, for sure, and we need to not stick to the same formula every year. They need to switch it up.
well yeah that's what i mean by enough. i like the dynamic of an older person with life experience (add a little crazy) bouncing off a younger person who thinks they have life figured out. watching dan rile up renny and seeing her have to resist hitting him, was really good stuff.
Yeah, that was season 15. That was the last season where less than half the cast looked like models lol. Even though the contestants weren't likable, they all played to win. Season 17 wasn't dreadful, but 16, 18, and 19 were all pretty boring seasons with weak gameplay.
BB14 and BB19 had the most petty juries ever by far. My God dude, Between Alex and Jason and Shane and Britney my goodness. People HAVE to realize that stabbing people in the back is the intended purpose of the game. I don't get how u could call yourself a fan of the show and not vote for the best player to win. Makes no sense to me
I think Dan using his grandfathers chain as collateral is what lost him the season. Had it not been for that I think the Jury would have respected his game
The BB19 jury was justified in my opinion. Paul was still lying in his jury house messages which was so stupid. Paul wasn’t concerned about going home, he was concerned about losing jury votes for owning up to his moves, which wound up happening anyways. I think Dan had to do what he did to make it to the end, Paul did not and played sloppily post-Jason eviction.
@@Jack-jx6lnI love Dan but when you are someone who was a Catholic School Teacher and you just give your deceased Grandfather’s Cross, it comes across as scary and strange.
Ramen Noodles Porsche couldn’t do anything for the first 3 weeks because of the Golden Key. Then she jumped ship to Daniele when the tide was turning. She also won competitions when she had to. Rachel wouldn’t have even made it to the end without the rigged Pandora’s Box.
Ugh like am I the only one who didn't like ANYBODY on season 19, Kevin was okay but still didn't really like him. Didn't like Jess, Ramses, Cody, Mark, Elena.. LITERALLY NO ONE
I liked Mark (fat guy who lost weight and was likable), Dominique (called Paul on his manipulation early in the game and everything she said played out like she predicted), Christmas (very smart and sexy), and Ramses (from my hometown). I liked Kevin, Jason and Matt until they started playing Paul's game. Hated Cody, Jess, Elena, Raven, and especially Alex from the start. Cameron and Megan didn't stay long enough to be liked or disliked. Poor Janelle was on the block for a long ass time. Liked Josh until he showed how "moist" he was with all that damn crying, and Paul has to be the second-greatest player in BB history next to Dan Gheesling (also from my home state).
liz deserved to win over steve 1 she played the game with a twin 2 she had a great social game 3 she convinced people to protect her even though that would give her an extra number 4 Her target was always the biggest target over austin 5 her game moves were all to keep austin happy but she would have took him out when she got the chance
Steve played a great game too. Playing with a twin is an advantage, Steve also had a great social game, with pretty much everyone in the house liking him, Steve got protection when he needed it (Which was not that much), who knows if she would've gotten that chance, and her target being the biggest target is not necessarily a super big strategy. While I think Liz played a great game, Steve played just as good as well.
Daniele saying Rachel was too mean is hilarious to me. Didn’t her Dad bully ppl and she was so happy to be apart of it cause she got to the final two? 😂
3:13 Rachel sounds so ignorant right here. She literally thinks Big Brother has no social or strategic aspect to it and it's all comps. Which in itself is stupid because Hayden was also good at comps and was the HOH in Brendon eviction. This right here is why Rachel is a very overrated player she only ever went far because of comps (and production) she was terrible socially and strategically. She's also arguably the worst winner of all time
I heard behind scenes Jeff and Jordan aren't as sweet as they were patrayed reason Russell went after Jeff because Jeff called him a bitch and a pansy and went on a homopbic rant about some book with a gay teacher making another house guest whose sisters a lesbian and felt just uncomfortable and russle had literally with other tell him stfu plus Jordan laughed and encouraged it but never said shit so never liked Jeff when he wants argue with people and act like he's better person
Alex is so disrespectful. You dont talk to one of the greatest players ever like that. Bb19 sucked as a season. I only like Cody and Jessica because they didnt run everything by Paul first. Like everyone else did. Dont hate me just acknowledge my opinion
do you think they introduced will to prevent a dan vs ian situation where dan loses? I feel in 15, Will had a goal to make sure spencer and gina wouldn't get a jury vote (Perhaps bc of the controversy). I felt Liz vs Steven Liz had a greater control, but it was closer (i think will was more concerned if vanessa made it to the end and lost) I think season 18 was interesting because it made me realize that the jury had a different view of the game. I don't think davonne was bitter against paul (enough to sway her vote), but I think Davonne thought nicole was in control of the game (which only was late game like final 7, but Davonne probably thought she was in control even longer).
I could see the frustration building with Dr.Will talking to the BB19 jury. When he said are you guys just sore losers, I think that’s how to describe this jury
Josh took action while paul was behind a closed door. Lmao paul ran the house the whole season. Cody literally said all those people were following paul. Its hillarious
Brendan has always seemed to think that the only way to play and win Big Brother is "competition". Though the biggest part of it they're so many others ways like social game that you have to play. That's why Brendan never won.
even though I hate Matt and Raven, Raven has a point when she saids "Are we playing Big Baby?!" These people don't realize they all got played hardcore, and they were to bitter to vote Paul to win. Granted, I didn't want Paul to win, but I think he deserved it out of everyone left in the final 3. Christmas got the cripple pass, and Josh was a babbling Buffoon who got in fights all the time, and acted like a baby afterwards
I think this is one of the reasons why Survivor will always be the superior show to me. In Big Brother, people are constantly criticized on the jury for who they vote to win. While on Survivor, in seasons like Samoa, Natalie's win was seen in a more positive light as the years went on due to her good social game and jury management and people like Jeff Probst have addressed this plenty. That season really spoke volumes that it takes more than just strategy to win these shows. People can compare someone like Natalie to Jordan from BB11 who both won their seasons by playing similar games yet in the jury round table, it felt pretty forced that most people were looking at who did the most to get to where they're at (comp wins, ect) rather than what they did specifically. And we have people arguing, trying to change each others opinions and bring up irrelevant stuff like they're own gameplay. And this has only worsened in recent seasons And most people can't help but have this mindset that Big Brother is all about lying and backstabbing where there's a whole bigger picture with it being a social experiment and understanding the people you are playing with/against. And even the producers of Big Brother showed clear favoritism for certain players in each season and those opinions did seem somewhat mirrored by the majority of the jury members. And even when their favorites lost, they made sure that those people did feel crap about their decision. Want an example? Let's talk about the final 5 competition of Big Brother 20. There were a bunch of movie options shown and the contestants had to guess which one matched the one a group was talking about. During the example round, one of the "movies" was called 9 angry jurors or something like that and it had a caption that said "It was just a game, but they're making it personal". Survivor is a show that is able to move forward without looking back at the worst case scenarios while Big Brother does it passive aggressively. And I can still say to this that every person on Survivor deserved to win their season as a result while with Big Brother, I'm more on the fence about because like I said, it just seemed forced on how some of the jurors were voting. But I can't say for sure. This was just something that was on my mind and had to get it out in the open. I hope my points made sense and remember that it is my opinion, ya'll don't have to agree with it.
Yes, people need to acknowledge that if a player makes the game personal and that costs them the jury vote, they did it to themselves. Paul did it himself twice. Dan might have had a chance against Ian if he hadn't made such personal promises, and if he hadn't made his jury speech about why he thought Ian didn't even deserve 2nd place he might have won.
