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In the reverse triangle control (16:00), could the top guy tuck his chin to help avoid the triangle while using the arm around the bottom guy's head with their free arm to attack a cradle?
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Hi guys, this is Karel Pravec (Silver Fox). 1st of all, THANK YOU for all the nice comments! I will try to answer most of the questions below. There seem to be several requests for guillotine concepts. Next time I'm up in Montreal, we'll figure out with Firas what is most requested, and try to address those questions. In the meantime, both the book: www.amazon.com/Fluid-BJJ-Scrawny-Getting-Submissions/dp/1523883936 and the videos: www.digitsu.com/fluid-bjj-by-karel-pravec-on-demand-p-131.html have a chapter on guillotines. The guillotine chapter in the book is pre-faced by: CHAPTER 1 - GUILLOTINE & FOLLOW-UPS Guillotine is one of my favorite weapons, and is the technique which got me the nickname, Silver Fox. Younger, stronger & more athletic guys would come in for a double leg take-down, I would push their head to the outside, and they would be tapping as soon as we hit the mats. I consider it one of the classical BJJ techniques, albeit underutilized by many practitioners. It is highly effective against opponents who are larger or stronger with better wrestling skills. One of the highlighted points in this chapter is body positioning which typically gets less emphasis than the various grips. I believe that grips are more of a personal preference (mine is the more traditional grip - ½ of my hand on my wrist and ½ on my choking hand), and play a lesser role in guillotine effectiveness than body positioning and the shoulder rolled forward. Utilizing the principles of Fluid BJJ (follow-up attacks) and Head Control, I usually submit my opponent or wind up in a strong top of side control position. Basic principles of the guillotine are: • Offensive use - Guillotine pass, Head snap down, Opponent turtles • Defensive use - from opponent’s single or double leg take down • “Head control” concept (will submit opponent OR wind up on top) • Proper body positioning (more of on your side rather than on your back) is the key • Follow-ups (anaconda, pin, one handed guillotine etc.) • Make sure the OPPOSITE LEG of your choking arm is preventing your opponent from getting his body on the opposite side of his head (i.e. if you are choking with your left arm, your right leg must be over his body and vice versa) • Shoulder MUST BE rolled forward (in the middle of your opponent’s shoulder blades) to prevent his head from popping out
These are some of the best instructionals I've ever seen and they're totally free! Please, please, please release a guillotine concepts video with Karel
Thank you for the reply professor. I left this page and went immediately to digitsu and picked up your Fluid BJJ video series. Thank you for producing this learning tool.
Karel is the man, and one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet. Firas this is fantastic. PS for anyone reading, the "zero fat" arm bar at around 11:00 I've seen from Pedro Sauer as well, though he credits Rickson. This is priceless, literally. Cheers.
Silver Fox has so many gems in the videos you do (literally dozens). I find myself watching them over and over trying to get all the little details. Maybe you and him could start a channel that has weekly tips in a short 5 minute video? I would love to get little tricks to try during free roll. Thank you for making this available to us!
Amazing to see a high level grappler, being humble and excited to learn from Mr. Silver. Jiu jitsu is an endless game, and fares is a perfect ambassador. Humble, open, and always receptive to a new perspective. Oss.
please bring Mr.Pravec back more often...his videos on side control were eye opening..and every time he comes on this channel there is something cool to learn...thank u coach zahabi for the top class contents
Life is mad sometimes, I spend all day worrying about triangle chokes, and Firas releases a 40 minute expert seminar on them for free with the always awesome Mr Pravec. Literally an hour before I go to a No-Gi class. I'd say 'thanks' but that does not really do you enough credit. This channel plus Stephan Kesting's is just legit. p.s That foot flex detail at 9.28 is mind blowing. I have giant calves and feet and just testing this out quickly mid air I just know my triangle is gonna cut a better angle now! I agree that anyone can triangle but if you have short thick legs like me, you need these top level details to really make the position a threat.
I try =] I messed up, I still have an hour spare so I just watched it twice! I'm pushing my luck to ask this, but do you have any tips for us heavier guys to prevent being flattened out on the bottom. I try so hard to shrimp out, hip escape etc, but some guys at my gym are just killers and it's sort of stalling my progress. As a general rule they never secure chokes on me, but slowly wear me down and attack with just armbars and kimura's until I tire. Cheers!
So fun to watch, I like the pace.. just chatting, analyzing, trying different aspect of triangle chokes. Entertaining and smooth for avid bjj practitioners. Thank you Coachs Firas & Karel!
Please PLEASE have Karel break down the guillotine. The 2 part armbar break down has helped me to no end and Im restless wanting to try some of the things I've seen here.
I love these long detailed discussions.Please keep them coming firas.Can you do one of these long videos on guard,any kind of guard is ok(but i would like knee shield half,if you read this) with long thorough discussion on various concepts , variations and transitions etc.love from India
A question Firas: in one of your instructionals on dealing with larger opponents you stress the importance of under-hooking the far leg when the standard underhook is unavailable from side control. Here both yourself and Karel discuss that leg underhook as a serious triangle risk for the top player. Do you still use that far leg underhoook from side given this risk?
Speaking for myself, I will take the calculated risk to control my opponent on the bottom, but I am ready to swim my arm out if I feel that attack coming.
I have been doing bjj for two months, this video blew my mind twenty different times. I am probably going to only take away two or three things from this but I am going to have to come back to this video when I am more experienced.
Love that inverted triangle as a hitchhiker counter / trap at 22:40, gonna try that tonight. Thanks so much for more Excellent & free content as always. You gotta get the silver Fox back to share some of his guillotine, rear naked & other choke gems too !
For that keylock reverse triangle, what's stopping the person from picking you up and slamming you down? Your hands are busy attacking the shoulder and arm so you've got not control of their legs. Anyone else have trouble with this?
I love these instructionals with silver fox. Btw, are you guys using your phones as microphones? If not, what are you using for mics? Your audio is very clear to be in gym.
to be honest my regular triangle finishing rate was never that good from white to purple belt (but for some reasons my reverse triangle is decent lol). I often got passed and "punished" after I tried it. Today in the morning sparring I only concentrated on breaking my partners posture in the triangle and tapped 3 purple belts due to it :D Seems my thighs werent to thick and even in Nogi it´s only a matter of control. Thanks Karel and Firas :)
i was so in to triangle chokes and now i hurt both my knees and cant get one of my best subs , im kind of redoing my hole game and try to train with my knees injured until i get surgurey and it sucks more now after watching this video haha! thanks for the video coach your the best
Please see my long answer addressing the guillotine requests (I also copied the page from the book talking about the guillotine concepts). When the guy tucks his chin, guillotine is not quite the tool to use but generally you can set up your opponent to open his neck (when they drive into you off their turtle or single or double leg take-down, they have to open their neck, otherwise their drive is weak and you can reverse them).
Hip heist. If he doesn’t stop the heist, you wound up mounted, if he puts you back down, his neck gets open for a moment, wrap the neck and shift your hips out (big shift) & now you have a guillotine with proper body positioning.
Fluid BJJ is well named. You can really see all that time in the pool in Karel's movements. Thank you Zahabi and Karel for sharing this for free, it's beautiful.
Hey Firas this was great but you promised something about triangles from the back and there weren't any. You know what that means - part 2 comin up baby. Lookin forward to it. LOL
Great Video! I can't wait to do a triangle choke with a key lock on my friends in practice (since I didn't get them a Christmas present) I'll give them this!!!!
Rocky Marciano used to stand in a pool with water up to his neck and just throw punches for hours. There is definitely something to that water training. I have to start incorporating this into my own training. This series with your coach has been great. I really like this guy’s personality and teaching method. He obviously has a wealth of knowledge and skill
Thanks Firas and Karl for posting another video. Anything I see one of the tristar videos with Karl in it, I know I am in for a treat. Love the information and I love your book Karl. It has really helped my game a lot. Keep up the good work you two.
How can you not love this guy! He would be the best uncle to go visit every summer with a new technique added to your arsenal every time! Thanks for sharing.