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It's Bake-Along time! You guys have been restless, I know. But POW! I'm back with an old favourite from my childhood, the Black Forest Cake. I have so many memories of having this at kids parties in the 80s but I don't think we should right it off just yet. It's still a massive crowd pleaser and I've made a few adjustments here and there and I hope you're going to love it!
You will need...
For the sponges - 3 x 7" tins, greased
5 lg eggs, separated
90ml vegetable oil
150ml water
1tsp vanilla extract
280g caster sugar
40g cocoa powder
225g plain flour
3/4 tsp bicarbonate of soda
3/4 tsp salt
For the syrup -
1.5 tbs Kirsch, Eau de Vie
2 tbs Amarena cherry syrup OR cherry juice/syrup from canned cherries
For the buttercream -
200g unsalted butter, soft
330g icing sugar, sifted
3-4 tbsp cherry syrup/kirsch/milk/combo!
For filling & topping -
Amarena cherries for extra specialness!
OR
Tinned cherries, halved if they're big
OR Fresh cherries, halved
Chocolate for shaving!
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@gothica64
@gothica64 5 лет назад
I would be interested to see you make Sacher Torte, particularly the chocolate glaze (not ganache).
@sophiakatharina9324
@sophiakatharina9324 4 года назад
Hello from Germany 🇩🇪 That's the recpie from our classic Bavarian cookbook (it's called Schwarzwälder Kirschtorte): Biskuitböden/ sponge cake: - 6 Eier/eggs (getrennt/separate) - 4 EL heiße Wasser/4 tbsp hot water - 210g Zucker/sugar - Vanille/vanilla - 115g Mehl/flour - 110g Speisestärke/ corn starch - 2 TL Backpulver/2 tsp baking powder - Kakao/ cacao Zum tränken/syrup: - Kirschwasser/kirsch - Sauerkirschsaft/sour cherry juice Füllung/filling: - 750ml Sahne/double creme - Kirschwasser/kirsch - Gelantine/gelatin or Sahnesteif - 750g entsteinte Sauerkirschen/pitted sour cherries Zum Verzieren/ for decoration: - Creme - Sauerkirschen/sour cherries - Raspelschokolade/ grated chocolate That's it 😂
@karenescobar7407
@karenescobar7407 4 года назад
I would love to see a classic strawberry shortcake, the real one, I have so much hard time to get the big whole sponge cake on the right way, thank you! You rock!
@MissJell333
@MissJell333 5 лет назад
Yess!! This is my favourite cake ever!! Thank you for this recipe! ❤️🎂
@leoniewagner4092
@leoniewagner4092 5 лет назад
In Germany we have something called “Sahnesteif” to stiffen the cream. It’s literally just corn starch and icing sugar. But it works really well actually and it’s a really good alternative to gelatin. Nice cake by the way ❤️ not very traditionally though. Love from Germany 🇩🇪
@leopfleger1
@leopfleger1 5 лет назад
that's what I thought too. still looks delicious though. :)
@gothica64
@gothica64 5 лет назад
I have never used gelatin to stiffen cream for the Black Forest cake, but then I am just an amateur baker. I have to say, German cakes are delicious!
@louibeans
@louibeans 5 лет назад
Very true. Totally different to the one my grandmother made (which is absolutely fine), but that means I need to do more research because unfortunately my grandma never shared the recipe. :)
@CupcakeJemma
@CupcakeJemma 5 лет назад
Oh really! That sounds perfect! I’ll have to check it out. Thanks!
@datboibutters
@datboibutters 5 лет назад
I do the same, I avoid gelatin. Otherwise cooks illustrated has their method of stabilizing cream by cooking some of it I think.
@yulianarahmawati9365
@yulianarahmawati9365 5 лет назад
YEAAAYYY!!!! much love from Indonesia, Jemma I love to see all of ur recipe💞💞
@eviehallitt8122
@eviehallitt8122 5 лет назад
i literally watch these when i know i don't have the ability or time to make them, i love jemma's videos sooo much
@hazrdrosenyc9385
@hazrdrosenyc9385 3 года назад
I can’t boil air 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but I LOVE watching you x the gang bake! I’m living vicariously through your love of sweets!! Thank you Crumbs & Doilies/Cupcake Jemma for making “ lockdown “ less stressful. Your a delight to watch, and Sally needs a raise!!! 🎂🍒💙
@MzAJCanady
@MzAJCanady 5 лет назад
This is awesome! I'm very impressed! and I didnt think Jemma could impress me any further but just wow!
@nicolaturner9352
@nicolaturner9352 5 лет назад
hello cupcake jemma i am all ways loving the sunday baking i all ways look forward it lots off love xxxxxx
@GeminiAmbience
@GeminiAmbience 5 лет назад
Super bummed to be seeing this several days after the bake along. Will definitely be joining you for your next cake bake along! :) Love your videos!
@AliAli-wg2lc
@AliAli-wg2lc 3 года назад
What a nice thing to do for Syrian children..Thanks a lot Jemma❤ My regards from Syria
@jnawsathjn
@jnawsathjn 5 лет назад
Hi jemma love your baking, super interesting and esy tips. Thank you for posting videos.
@MichaelBoroditsky
@MichaelBoroditsky 2 года назад
You asked in the video for anyone who has stabilized whipped cream thoughts to share them. When I make a heavy layered cake and want to use whipped cream between the layers, as much as I like, without it squishing out, I use: per cup of whipping cream, 2 Tbsp skim milk powder, 2 Tbsp icing (confectioners) sugar, 1 Tbsp meringue powder. The whipped cream whips up very hard, hard enough to stack up four heavy layers with berries, coulis. No issues. And it stays hard even if your cake lasts for a couple days.
@njeriwainaina5722
@njeriwainaina5722 Год назад
Heaven sent!!! Thank you for this great tip!
@beprominent7860
@beprominent7860 Год назад
Why did you put the skim milk powder? Any specific reason?
@alidadebruyn3560
@alidadebruyn3560 5 лет назад
No point watching and not baking, I wanna try 😂 love Jemma cakes, I’ve made the basic cupcakes and the staff looooved it. Thank you Jemma, so pleased I found your channel on youtube 😁
@tasneemmohamed734
@tasneemmohamed734 5 лет назад
I LOVE this recipe and I sure will try it one day 😍😍
@sumedhacs
@sumedhacs 5 лет назад
Neapolitan cake, Victoria sponge, orange cake, pineapple upside down, New York style cheesecake are just a few of my favorite things that I would love to learn!!
@TsangJasmine
@TsangJasmine 3 года назад
It is so good! I really love the sponge recipe and I used whipped cream instead of buttercream but still love it so much ❤️❤️❤️ I'll definitely keep this recipe for a long time
@ktoffa8219
@ktoffa8219 5 лет назад
I'm loving your videos, there very inspirational and informative cant wait to see more
@SamiaVlogs
@SamiaVlogs 5 лет назад
Who else love watching cake recipe but never make 😂
@CupcakeJemma
@CupcakeJemma 5 лет назад
I hear a lot of people say this! Go and get baking! 😄
@arwafahad9200
@arwafahad9200 5 лет назад
Hell ME😆😂
@venuschow9824
@venuschow9824 5 лет назад
Me too :D
@zoe_foy6227
@zoe_foy6227 5 лет назад
Me
@basgsi
@basgsi 5 лет назад
Hey Jemma, i have made this today for my birthday (think i also send a picture on instagram if i send it correct) i used fresh cherry they in season here in the Netherlands and because everybody loves it the creamcheese from the red velvet cupcakes with some red colorpaste with the cherryjuice. It taste great. I live close to the german border and here them scream cause what we did to their recipe 😂😉 Thank you for the great idea's!
@everywinter14
@everywinter14 5 лет назад
love you jemma! great tips and tricks! always loved your videos! :D
@jasallcock
@jasallcock Год назад
I’ve watched this vid a few times now and absolutely love you Jemma❤, thank you
@sarahschmidt1076
@sarahschmidt1076 5 лет назад
I LOVE your videos and recipes. I made your red velvet cake a couple of weeks ago and it was perfect, the BEST I've ever had. Thank you for doing these videos and helping us amateurs out 💜 I'd love to see a lemon meringue tart recipe some time and lemon bars/squares please 😄
@AuMENUCOOKING
@AuMENUCOOKING 5 лет назад
Hello my friend ..... thanks a lot for this great video ..... and i lvoe this Black forest cake ... I love it .... I live near Black forest Germany ..... Thanks a lot for this great recipe ! ! ! ! Hello from FRANCE ! ! ! !🍊😍🍄💖🍚🍄
@yanachriswhelan4715
@yanachriswhelan4715 5 лет назад
I love this recipe and I will try soon to surprise my familia, Thanks for sharing your talent.
@carolinekabaria4291
@carolinekabaria4291 4 года назад
This is such a simple and beautiful cake. A must try.
@jameshedley6621
@jameshedley6621 5 лет назад
Hey Jemma... This is amazing. This buttercream is sooo nice and seems less sweet! Good work
@karamooney1552
@karamooney1552 5 лет назад
This looks amazing cant wait to make it
@jaronchoong
@jaronchoong 5 лет назад
A recipe I am searching for lately. Thanks Jemma xx
@adhithmathewjacob1463
@adhithmathewjacob1463 5 лет назад
Ooh Jemma the cake was superbly moist and I was absolutely delicioussss thanks Jemma for your wonderful recipe Love you Jemma keep doing your great work appreciate it😘😘😋😋😜
@annamuc8424
@annamuc8424 2 года назад
I just love watching you and so pleasant Jenna 😍
@luuuskis
@luuuskis 5 лет назад
Aaah Jemma i love your videos, i suck at baking but these videos are so calming to watch and the cakes look so delisiooooso! ❤
@emmyemmyz
@emmyemmyz 5 лет назад
THAT was sooo satisfying to watch 😅😻♥️
@clairemckinley691
@clairemckinley691 4 года назад
My friend and I are having a joint birthday party in a few weeks and I’m making this Black Forest cake for him and either a rainbow or tres leches cake for me, haven’t decided yet. Thanks for the recipe Jemma, looks delicious
@arunasathish6217
@arunasathish6217 5 лет назад
This is the best recipe I've come across! Love from India :)
@kayleighwall6706
@kayleighwall6706 5 лет назад
I made one of these last week for my mum to take to her works training day and it went down really well, definitely owe it to all the tips I've picked up from your video's so thank youu 😁😁
@CupcakeJemma
@CupcakeJemma 5 лет назад
You’re welcome!! Glad you’re enjoying my videos. X
@fsmith4069
@fsmith4069 5 лет назад
This looks amazing. Definitely gonna try to get ingredients here in S.A. to make. Thx
@q_nevermore
@q_nevermore 5 лет назад
Hubby's already put in his order for a Black Forest Gateau, it's his favourite. I personally would love love love to see your take on lamingtons and learn how to make them myself :)
@tlicious121
@tlicious121 5 лет назад
Pretty cake. Love a Chantilly cream on black forest cakes with a mixture of Marscapone and whipped cream. (I think I use a 2:1 ratio.) Love the tangi-ness that Marscapone adds to offset the sweetness of the cherries.
@kellycoleman1122
@kellycoleman1122 5 лет назад
This looks great!!! My grandad used to make this.
@edithcreevey5790
@edithcreevey5790 5 лет назад
looks amazing Jemma!
@christiansfransisca7
@christiansfransisca7 5 лет назад
Hey Jemma absolutely love your cakes, cupcakes and all the other goodies I find on your channel. I'm dying for a good coconut cake, never tasted one or is it just my imagination that it will taste nice just because I love coconut.
@SuperMOM20
@SuperMOM20 5 лет назад
Fransisca Christians Bon Appétit Just did a cake series with Clare that has the best looking coconut cake in it. As soon as our kitchen is finished being remodeled it’s on my list to make!
@lize-maristone7984
@lize-maristone7984 5 лет назад
Looks so yum. Definitely going to try this soon.
@christinetvaroch1629
@christinetvaroch1629 5 лет назад
Can’t wait to make this - I do have the cherries from the tahini cupcakes - the first recipe of yours I made - I’ll have to use the rest up on this - your gateaux is picture perfect!
@EVEspinosa79
@EVEspinosa79 5 лет назад
I appreciate that this one doesn't call for the big Kitchenaid stand mixer, because I had to leave mine when I moved from Mex to a tiny apt in NYC. And amarena cherries are always a great idea!
@kimhuattan4358
@kimhuattan4358 5 лет назад
I am from singapore. Love your videos and never missed any of ur videos. I made them today and it turned out so good
@orlybabe
@orlybabe 5 лет назад
I just made strawberries and cream cake with a chiffon sponge yesterday, wish I watched this first so I could have decorated it like this! So beautiful the blobs with the fruit in between. That said, everyone said they loved my cake because of the balance between the sweetness of the cake, tartness of the strawberries and lightness of the whipped cream that I spiked with sour cream to stabilize, so I’m thinking if I had used buttercream it would have been all sweet and too much. Next masterclass.... sticky date cake please!
@markdodson1607
@markdodson1607 4 года назад
I stabilize with cream cheese. Don't know the conversions, but in the US, it's 2 C cold cream to 1 pkg (8 oz) room temp cream cheese. Whip the cheese and 1/4 C of sugar for a few minutes then add the cream and 2 tsp of vanilla extract. Whip on high until stiff peaks.
@candylove2904
@candylove2904 5 лет назад
Jemma thank you so much! This cake was my dream to make, and now I have the best recipe
@kajitani13
@kajitani13 5 лет назад
How does it taste? Do u make any adjustment?
@candylove2904
@candylove2904 5 лет назад
@@kajitani13 I always use a lot of cherry liquor and some cherry sirup to make those cakes really moist :) and that's all. I'm from Poland so sometimes I change things up and use some vodka instead of cherry liquor. It's amazing both ways.
@kajitani13
@kajitani13 5 лет назад
@@candylove2904 thankyou for the reply! Really appreciate it I will make it tommorow i hope it turns out well 😊
@candylove2904
@candylove2904 5 лет назад
@@kajitani13 you are welcome:) fingers crossed! let us know how it goes
@bubbles_1397
@bubbles_1397 5 лет назад
It's been awhile since i started watching your videos.. I must say i got addicted with it and wait every thursday for new video. Will try this one on mother's day. Will recommend my brother in london to drop by to ur store and hope to have pic with u
@pinkminnie
@pinkminnie 5 лет назад
anyone else waiting for Jemma to repeat "round the outside" 3 times like chef john on @foodwishes always does?? 😂 great cake, by the way! love from Germany! 💜
@est19711
@est19711 4 года назад
Dear Jemma, many thanks. Beautiful cake, probably delicious 😋 but certainly hasn't much in common with a traditional black forrest cake 😀 But as you said the world is our oyster and everyone os free to develop their own recipes. 👍👏Being the daughter of a Confectioner I could d share the following: Bottom is a thin shortcrust. 2 sponges, but not as thick as yours. Filling usually done cherries from the glas (not amarena cherries): You take the cherry juice blend a few spoons with cornstarch, bring the majority of the juice to a boil, mix the starch juice blend under and bring to a boil again, stir intensive until juice thickens, then add Kirsch and stir again. stack bottom add cherries 🍒 and then whipped cream, next sponge cherries and whipped cream again. cover cake complete with whipped cream. Add chocolate for decoration and cherries. I personally still use gelantine as this helps me best, however many people have objections for which I recommend to use any other stiffener at you own convenience. Love your😍 channel. Many thanks 🙏and best regards from Germany 🇩🇪 Stefanie
@fbh16
@fbh16 5 лет назад
Can't wait to see your cupcake video!! Please can you do a video on easy decorations for cake! Or your biscoff cake recipe 😉😉💖💖💖
@leadobos6257
@leadobos6257 5 лет назад
Can't wait for the cupcake masterclass!!! Could you please include/reccomend some healthy(ish) substitutes to use? Like almond flour if it acts like self raising flour or how to work with it? I love your recipes and contect
@cnssl12
@cnssl12 3 года назад
Love Jemma’s face expressions❤️
@VideoRicetta
@VideoRicetta 5 лет назад
Torta magnifica! Video bellissimo!
@JJJ41519
@JJJ41519 5 лет назад
Love you Jemma showing love from Chicago IL
@tammimacclellanheupel1517
@tammimacclellanheupel1517 5 лет назад
Finally! I've been searching sooo long for a recipe like this! I have watched so many videos and read so many cake recipes and no one has done a chocolate cake like this one...at least not that I found! I was going to just wing it and go with my instincts, but I'm not that experienced of a baker and really wanted to find a recipe first. I'm making the cake tomorrow and thought I'd give a search one more go and voila! Here you are. Bless you xx. LOVE the recipe and will let you know how it turns out. I'm doing the traditional cherries and whipped cream, but soooo using your cake recipe. Much love!
@walterwhite3018
@walterwhite3018 5 лет назад
Jemma is a super Baker.
@tammimacclellanheupel1517
@tammimacclellanheupel1517 5 лет назад
@@walterwhite3018 Yes, she is! It turned out ahmaazzingly :) Now I'm watching all of her videos. Thank you, Jemma!
@walterwhite3018
@walterwhite3018 5 лет назад
@@tammimacclellanheupel1517 she's my go to Baker in here for recipes and ideas. Excellent tutorials. Good luck.
@megjanew
@megjanew 5 лет назад
Oh this takes me back to my college days! I had to make this one day. Because of the techniques I had to do and the recipe was like five pages long, I didn't receive a break that day. I was on my feet for like ten hours straight :( Btw, great video. Thumbs up!
@NaureenKhan1979
@NaureenKhan1979 5 лет назад
What a super delightful and sweet Sunday morning
@pennybarry1170
@pennybarry1170 5 лет назад
Beautiful!!!!
@fatemehhamzehzadeh3966
@fatemehhamzehzadeh3966 5 лет назад
Hello I made your cake today and the result was great Thank you💕🌹
@diananeenooth2237
@diananeenooth2237 5 лет назад
Awesome as usual 🥰
@laGesounette
@laGesounette 5 лет назад
A classic New York Cheesecake recipe would be great!
@saraalbert241
@saraalbert241 5 лет назад
Hello Jemma 😘😘😘😘 from Mauritius !!!😉😉 This is my favourite cake😍😍😍❤❤ Thx dr 😘😘
@momseya620
@momseya620 5 лет назад
Will obsolutely do this for my birthday on sunday
@AmericanBaker
@AmericanBaker 5 лет назад
I love black forest cherry cake. Thank you for the tutorial. It's so delicious. I made a super traditional one on my channel as well.
@pjesf
@pjesf 5 лет назад
Your accent is just SO lovely and it adds a further bit of sparkle to your personality. Plus I love your recipes, so there's that ❤️
@emchild93
@emchild93 5 лет назад
Hey Jemma! I love watching your videos! Can you please give some advice on how to keep the juices from the fruit from collecting on the buttercream? I made some strawberry buttercream and put strawberries on top and the juices just collected on top. Thank you!!
@amy-ellen
@amy-ellen 5 лет назад
Is there a particular brand of icing sugar you would recommend? I went into the supermarket, specifically bought an icing sugar that uses maize starch (as suggested in your perfect buttercream video) but my buttercream is still really gritty...any suggestions?
@Hrnakshi
@Hrnakshi 3 года назад
The one I had when I visited the Black Forest had an entire layer of cherries and was so delicious. This looks awesome too but a lot of butter cream..
@ilovepokemon8944
@ilovepokemon8944 5 лет назад
I would like to see u bake a Boston cream pie
@mariesaint5542
@mariesaint5542 5 лет назад
I use icing sugar to make cream more stable. Helps stiffen and sweetens it a bit better.
@MrsSmudger1
@MrsSmudger1 5 лет назад
Wow Jemma, you are amazing. Looks fab-u-lous
@HolyBrownCow1997
@HolyBrownCow1997 5 лет назад
I love how you mix the Kirsch with the cherry juice, the only way I know it is to just use the alcohol :D love from Germany!
@pearlx3362
@pearlx3362 4 года назад
Thanks for the video Jemma! Vegetable Gelatine can be used to stabalize the cream.
@MyLife-ni5to
@MyLife-ni5to 5 лет назад
That cake is just stylish👌👌👌
@yoyowu5987
@yoyowu5987 5 лет назад
Looks delicious 🤤 😋
@ianthaserieux5670
@ianthaserieux5670 4 года назад
Amen to relying on the recipe for moisture. Have I said I just love watching you and u make me want to bake all day and all night.
@janetomlin9183
@janetomlin9183 5 лет назад
Hello Jemma, love your bakes, I'd like a vegan blueberry muffin recipe please. 🙏🏻
@MysticRose24
@MysticRose24 5 лет назад
Jemma, you always showing us your merchandise in your videos!!!! My friend from South Africa was in your store on Friday to buy an apron for me only to be told they were sold out. He even enquired about the apron hanging up in the shop & was told that one wasn't for sale 😭😭😭😭.
@sabinaroseadecir9640
@sabinaroseadecir9640 5 лет назад
Wow very nice and super delicious I want to make it❤❤❤🎉🎉🎂🎂🎂
@arvisprikulis899
@arvisprikulis899 5 лет назад
I would love a coconut cream pie Bake along!
@nihmaniufar3027
@nihmaniufar3027 5 лет назад
Hi Jemma! I love all ur works.They are neat and clean 💙 can u please teach us how to make Fondant.i watched many recipes..but i will love ur recipe for sure Love from Sri Lanka💖
@MAHIRAHUSSAIN
@MAHIRAHUSSAIN 5 лет назад
This looks so good! Will definitely try it out soon ❤
@MissPennyLaFreak
@MissPennyLaFreak 5 лет назад
When you mentioned the "barkiness"of the shaving it dawned on me. In Spain this is called Selva Negra, which is not Forest, but Jungle, and as a kid I never understood what on earth this cake had to do with a jungle. Now it makes sense...
@mikaelb.2070
@mikaelb.2070 5 лет назад
Or maybe just because the German Black Forest (Schwarzwald) is called Selva Negra in Spanish........
@harleymay9287
@harleymay9287 3 года назад
Making this for my mom's birthday. she's 8 months pregnant to boot so it'll be a nice treat for her.
@hanx1ao1n
@hanx1ao1n 5 лет назад
Hi Jemma! Love your recipes! Can u bake a soda flavour cake next time?
@angiestojanovski1463
@angiestojanovski1463 3 года назад
Hi love, love, all the beautiful sweet you make, I have just made this cake however my cake is thin help ! Lol
@shroomieshrooms8185
@shroomieshrooms8185 5 лет назад
JEMMA! This cake looks and sounds amazing! I have a few questions for you or anyone who can answer: fresh fruit on my cakes are my favorite way to decorate but every time I do, the buttercream starts to disintegrate because of the fresh juices no matter how long I dry them. It makes for a sloppy, wet icing job. Also when I've completed a cake and store it in the cooler, later when I take it out to serve or deliver it, it condensates on the buttercream which also ruins the icing job. How can I fix these two problems?
@839091CPM
@839091CPM 5 лет назад
Love your cake!!! I prefer with chantilly, tho, but I know it's hard to stabilize it.. Jemma, would please could make a red velvet coloring with beetroots? Thanks and have a great sunday!
@pallaviagrawal9767
@pallaviagrawal9767 5 лет назад
How to stabilize whipping cream video much needed🎂
@ChristianaSpencer
@ChristianaSpencer 5 лет назад
A video by her would be great. However, here's a blog post with a recipe I've used a few times. It's always come out for me. www.mysequinedlife.com/how-to-make-stabilized-whipped-cream/
@aviva1996
@aviva1996 5 лет назад
Loved that video!! It's my husband's 26th birthday next month's and looking for a cake to make for a not so much cake lover. Any ideas? Would love to see a video on "cakes for non cake lover" ! xx
@donaharrisburg5469
@donaharrisburg5469 5 лет назад
Fab! 💐😊
@gurpreetphalora5759
@gurpreetphalora5759 5 лет назад
Hey Jemma, quick question in regards to your black bottom cake video. If I was adding the cheesecake bit to a different recipe of cupcakes, would I take away an egg or could I add the cheesecake mixture to the existing recipe?
@katiegooding7302
@katiegooding7302 5 лет назад
So exitttteddddddd
@kathyt8859
@kathyt8859 5 лет назад
yay finally early! i love your videos, they are so sweet!! (pun)
@joshtong7761
@joshtong7761 5 лет назад
Do you think i could use a Swiss meringue better cream? Or should I just stick with the regular buttercream?
@craftywabbit9547
@craftywabbit9547 5 лет назад
love how the cherries snuggle in beside the cream blobs...wondering if you'd consider making a peach cobbler or a strawberry shortcake?
@raymensoin8010
@raymensoin8010 5 лет назад
pls make a vanilla chiffon cake with cream n berries 😋😋 pls explain the ratio of eggs and flour etc for the chiffon cake
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