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Black Hole Monsters in the Void with Pieter van Dokkum 

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An elusive creature roams freely, navigating the vast expanse of intergalactic space with astonishing speed. Its velocity is so immense that if it were present within our solar system, it could traverse the distance from Earth to the Moon in a mere 14 minutes. This extraordinary entity takes the form of a supermassive black hole, boasting a weight equivalent to that of 20 million Suns. In its wake, it has left an awe-inspiring trail, a celestial spectacle never witnessed before-a 200,000-light-year-long "contrail" adorned with newly born stars. This cosmic trail spans twice the diameter of our own Milky Way galaxy. Remarkably, this stunning phenomenon is believed to have arisen from an exceptionally rare and peculiar cosmic encounter involving three colossal black holes, akin to a game of galactic billiards.
Pieter van Dokkum of Yale University joins john michael godier on event horizon to discuss the runaway black hole candidate.
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@johnfyten3392
@johnfyten3392 Год назад
The passion this scientist has for dragonflies is so wholesome it's very refreshing
@potato-ld1uj
@potato-ld1uj Год назад
Is it wholesome knowing he had that same passion for spiders?
@johnfyten3392
@johnfyten3392 Год назад
@@potato-ld1uj yes
@youaremopped
@youaremopped Год назад
That homemade telescope array made of Cannon lenses is badass.
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow Год назад
Isn't it?
@pimcooks420
@pimcooks420 Год назад
Pretty sick, right?
@jackesioto
@jackesioto Год назад
@@EventHorizonShow Of course you could also make it out of the lenses of your glasses, if you've got an extra pair.
@Sirithil
@Sirithil Год назад
@@EventHorizonShow I wonder if something like Dragonfly might be useful for Avi Loeb's Galileo Project. High-tempo full-sky surveys seem tailor made for Galileo.
@joeblackman100
@joeblackman100 Год назад
😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 K as😅😅😮😮😮😮
@justsmashing4628
@justsmashing4628 Год назад
my Thursday treat 😊
@joeregan3570
@joeregan3570 Год назад
Second that
@bryandraughn9830
@bryandraughn9830 Год назад
Next paper "Largest skid mark in the universe".
@jeffrodvold3524
@jeffrodvold3524 Год назад
You made my week with that comment Bryan..., thanks.
@sookendestroy1
@sookendestroy1 Год назад
Idk when this episode was recorded but theres been a paper out which studied similar events to the ejected blackhole and found that it is actually most likely an incredibly thin galaxy as seen from the side rather than a trail of stars from a now rogue black hole
@EventHorizonShow
@EventHorizonShow Год назад
This was recorded on Monday. The peer review process is ongoing. The case isn’t closed.
@madmattdigs9518
@madmattdigs9518 Год назад
Yes, Anton did a video on this and made it sound like it was determined to be a galaxy viewed “on edge”. Appearing like a straight line from our perspective.
@realzachfluke1
@realzachfluke1 Год назад
@@EventHorizonShow And that's the beauty of science, cases are never _truly_ closed!!! 🤓 Everything and anything can and should be questioned, it's just up to us to figure out the right questions to ask in our *dialogue* with nature to make the most progress in our understanding of the world (and beyond).
@dropshot1967
@dropshot1967 Год назад
I have seen Aton do a video on that second paper. Both papers have arguments in favor of them so more research and proof is needed. I do agree that Anton made it sound like the thin galaxy theory was more likely, but peer review of both papers and additional research will show who is right.
@txrwauy
@txrwauy Год назад
I saw the "thin galaxy theory" on Anton Petrov's channel. It goes to show how hard it is to interpret images of objects so far away. It's why I love astronomy so much - there is always something new to discover. I enjoyed this episode as the opposing view was well argued. The passion that Pieter has for dragonflys was also notable. Time will tell who got the correct interpretation.
@oatlord
@oatlord Год назад
John: how do you choose your guests and what research do you about their subjects? You have an impressive and wide knowledge base.
@Swampzoid
@Swampzoid Год назад
I love dragonflies too. My favorite insect is the praying mantis.
@ourcommonancestry6025
@ourcommonancestry6025 Год назад
Absolutely love the guest, the topics, and hope that becomes prevalent just from listening.
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 Год назад
Wasn't this "jet" now proven to be a side-on very thin galaxy?
@abrahamroloff8671
@abrahamroloff8671 Год назад
One study says that's what they think it might be. It's all new data and still up for debate.
@sunspot42
@sunspot42 Год назад
Seems highly likely, yes.
@John-ir2zf
@John-ir2zf Год назад
If you wanted a video about rogue, ejected black holes...this isn't your video. If you want a history of this guy's butterfly obsession...then this is for you.
@Squirberus
@Squirberus Год назад
ive already read all John's books, great to have the suggestion of other reading!
@chromabotia
@chromabotia Год назад
My favorite episode ever! As an amateur astronomer and photographer this episode really floats my boat. The guest was great and living in Michigan I have spent hours and hours watching pond life, including my favorite, dragonflies! Thanks to the whole team. And who knew that the intergalactic space in galactic clusters are filled with monsters in the dark.
@Ranzoe813
@Ranzoe813 Год назад
Dragonflies are legit one of the coolest insects,not only are they asthesticlly cool...but also munch are nemesis misquito, i absolutely adore dragonflies❤
@luisreevs007
@luisreevs007 Год назад
"....It's like a small floor that doesn't support a lot of things on it... but there are many small floors in an infinite space, the only way that a background is possible... there is no floor, just a small expression of it in space..".!! lovely!!
@luisreevs007
@luisreevs007 Год назад
...." ho! with his own small cleaning system an invention of himself..."
@abrahamroloff8671
@abrahamroloff8671 Год назад
I wonder if they've considered splitting up the Dragonfly arrays to get some parallax on some in system objects. With the right processing they could build some detailed 3D images of great quality, I'd think. Edit: Watched more, got my answer. lol
@jedimasterted4712
@jedimasterted4712 Год назад
Crazy story on topic.I had a girlfriend once that loved dragonflys and said she was a dragonfly whisperer. We were taking a walk by the water on the colorado river north of Austin and there were several of them hovering around doing what they do. So as im rolling my eyes and thinking like Wtf is a dragonfly whisperer, she started walking up to this huge dragonfly that had landed a few meters away. Not creeping mind you, just kind of casually strode over to it with her hand out, not to try and catch it as I assumed she was gonna try to do, rather she just casually put her hand right next to it, which was amazing right there because I'd never been able to get even that close to a dragonfly, and it just kind of stepped onto her hand and just perched there. She actually petted it, on its little head with her other hand, or finger, and just walked over to me like nothing. I was standing there slack jawed and in awe. She just kind of hung out with it for a minute and petted it then raised her hand and let it go. I was impressed, amazed, and kind of scared it was neat. I never questioned her claim of being a dragonfly whisperer for even a moment thereafter.
@jedimasterted4712
@jedimasterted4712 Год назад
Oh JMG I absolutely love your channel. Thank you so much for what you do.
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
Yeah best not make her mad. She might tell a couple thousand dragonflies to fly in your mouth and nose. Choking to death on dragon flies be a rough and horrifying way to gob
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
@@jedimasterted4712 also, I'm kinda like that with computers. I told a buddy as I was checking out at Walmart that I'm not worried about SkyNet cause machines are always cool to me. He probe ly thought I was joking. Next thing you know I scan an item, it beeps like it’s successful, but I don't see it on screen. I scan it again. Again it beeps like it picked it up against is not on my total. I scan it again. It beeps like it went thru buy again. Is not on my screen. The watcher starts to come over. I go to scan it again and it says “put the item in your bag.” my friend and I know it isn't in my total. I try to scan it again. It beeps again and tells me to “put the item in your bag.” I'm still not charged with it. The Walmart person says put it in your bag. And I put it in my bag. They do that to me a lot. I've had others ones do things like send me a new drivers license when there was a glitch keeping the people from doing it
@jayboy2kay7
@jayboy2kay7 Год назад
^^ I think this dude is glitching
@markaustin9590
@markaustin9590 Год назад
This is one of the best way to learn
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
In the context of rouge supermassive black holes I remember reading about a surprising result when looking at the velocity distributions of stars in the small dwarf satellite galaxies of the local group and finding one specifically the one known as Leo 1 which requires a best fit of a concentrated central mass of ~3 million solar masses a significant fraction of the presumed dwarf spheroidal galaxy's mass measured to be ~20 million solar masses i.e. 15% total mass. Not sure what if any follow up was done on that so even if this example was just a needle edge galaxy this would give another example to study.
@prusak26
@prusak26 Год назад
These telescopes are brilliant. How well do they have to be alligned, both in term of pointing in the same direction, and one being slightly further forward than the others (or can this be done with software?)
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
Could have a fairly stable set of four black holes. IE: if the two sets of binaries have similar mass and orbit far enough from Barycenter so the frame dragging won’t effect much can result in four supermassive black holes in a quite stable config for longer than universe has been. Just imagine the energy of a fifth supermassive black hole already traveling fast due to previous ejection on a trajectory that gives it gravity assist from all three binaries.
@jackesioto
@jackesioto Год назад
That senario you described is just about the only way four similar mass objects can realistically orbit each other. But it's certainly possible! We know this as we have seen a few double-binary star systems.
@abrahamroloff8671
@abrahamroloff8671 Год назад
​@@mal2ksc Funny thing is it'd have a lot less impact than one might intuitively think. Over the course of a couple million years it'd drive a line of jumbled stars and new star formation like an arrow through our galaxy, and then right out the other side. It'd be epic looking, as long as you're not in the path of it. 😅
@Dragrath1
@Dragrath1 Год назад
@@mal2ksc While not quite that extreme kinematic studies attempting to constrain dark matter percentages of satellite galaxies of the local group discovered that one dwarf spheroidal galaxy Leo 1 has such extreme stellar velocity distributions that require a compact central gravitational source to explain of roughly 3 million solar masses which is a whopping 15% of the total dwarf spheroidal galaxy's stellar mass. That isn't heading for us in the sense of the solar system thankfully but it is in orbit of the Milky Way. In this case it looks most likely to be more of a stripped galaxy core from one of the Milky Way's past meals (as it appears to possibly have an associated stellar stream) but it's in the mass range of a SMBH comparable to Sagittarius A*. I don't think its realistically feasible in any scenario to accelerate a monster black hole like M87* to that kind of velocity though the only thing which can even feasibly move such a giant is a more massive black hole and the biggest known are only an order of magnitude more massive.
@tyr8338
@tyr8338 Год назад
That insect offtopics were waaaay too long.
@brick6347
@brick6347 Год назад
Black Hole: the only Disney movie anyone actually wants to see remade... is this my subconscious reminding me of Lexx?!
@russelllong9924
@russelllong9924 Год назад
Great interview as usual....
@animisttoo3890
@animisttoo3890 Год назад
If you think about it, there is a similar concept at work in the Canon lens array telescope, and in the compound-faceted structure of the insect eye.
@john-the-cook
@john-the-cook Год назад
Intergalactic Space is effectively; humanity's own prison....imho... Thankfully this prison is very 'spacious'... 😉🤔🙂
@l.siqueira8742
@l.siqueira8742 Год назад
Who knows wich dangers lurks into the dark void of intergalactic space? Imagine being lost in the middle of this "nothing" and suddenly stepping through an insanely big black hole, of inimaginable proportions. Terrifying. Excelent episode, as always.
@SofaKingShit
@SofaKingShit Год назад
Cthulu.
@FesteringGhoul
@FesteringGhoul Год назад
rogue black holes and neutron stars are easily in my top two favorite topics :)
@jimsteen911
@jimsteen911 Год назад
Yeah we can examine the viscosity of dark matter models as it pertains to massive bodies interacting gravitationally. It’s one of 12 ways ppl have totally nuked DM bs. Enough is enough
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
Hi Tom! Oh hi doctor Dokoo. Tom, it’s Dokkom. I've told you several times. I know Doc. I'm just pulling your thorax.
@bogdaaan
@bogdaaan Год назад
It's just another galaxy friends! Ask Sabina! She's really realistic about stuff, don't you think?
@dancingwiththedogsdj
@dancingwiththedogsdj 8 месяцев назад
Is there a possibility that we are miscalculating the mass of black holes due to the warping of time near / at the black hole where there is might be more matter within the event horizon despite our current measurements and maybe they have actually accumulated more material than we are able to calculate because the black hole itself may also include material from a future we haven't yet gotten to? Or something like that? It really seems like we are getting close to understanding many more things in the universe, but maybe overlooking a rather simple connection we just haven't made yet, like a relatively simple correlation. Love these videos!!
@robotaholic
@robotaholic Год назад
Don't quote me but Dr. Becky says supermassive rotating black holes almost can't leave - I will go back and watch it again but anyway thank you this is so interesting
@tjhodge201
@tjhodge201 Год назад
Kinda makes you uncomfortable these behemoths are out there and possibility of running into one of these scary AF.
@rickm9244
@rickm9244 Год назад
I think we will find that voids both interstellar and intergalactic aren't that empty.
@bigmac8574
@bigmac8574 Год назад
This is probably the most terrifying thing out there in the Universe. Good thing it’s so huge😅
@kenziedayne4234
@kenziedayne4234 Год назад
Why does it eject a black hole? Why don't they all just combine to become one giant black hole?
@JohnAlanWoods
@JohnAlanWoods Год назад
Fantastic John!
@InfiltrateIndustries
@InfiltrateIndustries Год назад
Dragonflies are hunters with highest rate of success of any animal
@stricknine6130
@stricknine6130 Год назад
Loved this interview! Thanks!!!!
@davidharley5025
@davidharley5025 Год назад
Hey, John. Can you set a debate with a sting theorist and an ai to argue one way or another?
@Dick_Gozinya
@Dick_Gozinya Год назад
A telescope with 48 lenses? High-tech sorcery! Sorcery, I say!
@NotReal-b9z
@NotReal-b9z Год назад
Putting a whole new meaning to the Three-Body Problem
@battragon
@battragon 7 месяцев назад
That can be a lot of fun, 3-body interactions.
@markjamesrodgers
@markjamesrodgers Год назад
Best Intro of any podcast!
@cygnus1129
@cygnus1129 Год назад
Imagine the night sky if you could SEE all the black holes the same way we see stars.
@jackesioto
@jackesioto Год назад
Then we'd see quite a bit of gravitational lensing and the accretion discs would be even more visible!
@txrwauy
@txrwauy Год назад
I don't know if you ever heard of "The king in yellow" - the night sky of Carcosa had black stars in it that radiated darkness. It's a nightmarish place that became associated with Lovecraft's Cthtulu mythos...en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_King_in_Yellow
@jayboy2kay7
@jayboy2kay7 Год назад
“Ma family has been here a lonngg time” - The Yellow King. Hope somebody gets the reference ;)
@JandoEmo
@JandoEmo Год назад
I don't think the same
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
Will a graphic designer do the NASA picture of the astronauts dressed walking to tbe Apollo rocket carrying the suitcase a/c’s, but replace the men in the space suits with water bears. Have them looking brave and majestic. I want a 3ftH by 4ftL enamel on stainless panel of this. Maybe on top of the above picture have the bridge of the NCC-1701-D with the crew as water bears drawn in invisible ink that glows in the dark.
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
I wonder how relativistic speeds affects a singularity. A black hole and a baseball are quite different. Take time for instant. Time already slows till almost stopped inside event horizon. Also as one approaches c time slows drastically. So time stops in black home multiples by time almost stopped at 99% c. I know the black holes aren’t going that fast, but it is a valid question.
@PetraKann
@PetraKann Год назад
Humans and dragonflies share about 50-60% of their DNA. It’s not surprising that Gene or DNA based life is diverse but inherently interconnected.
@cyprus1005
@cyprus1005 Год назад
Another banger episode
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
Water can be used as a lens right? What about make a water tight glass container with the top and bottom glass surface be made very clear and the proper shape of a lense that size. Then fill it completely with super pure distilled water leaving no air bubbles. Might have to do some whoodewhoo to get it right due to light refracting different in optical glass versus agua de optical.
@mitchellconnop2000
@mitchellconnop2000 Год назад
I love you John ❤
@Soupy_loopy
@Soupy_loopy Год назад
Not black, not a hole. The name "black hole" is misleading.
@reallyryan_
@reallyryan_ Месяц назад
lol
@danreid83
@danreid83 Год назад
Anyone else watch a video recently saying this is thin galaxy on its side ?
@JandoEmo
@JandoEmo Год назад
Nice
@mofiguy76
@mofiguy76 Год назад
Excellent 👍
@amangogna68
@amangogna68 Год назад
Great video !
@dirkdurango7582
@dirkdurango7582 Год назад
Just wait til my monster enters the void!
@abeershukla3756
@abeershukla3756 Год назад
a question can the process that led to the formation of stars, also lead to formation of rogue planets in its wake, or create a large number of planets bound to it?
@abrahamroloff8671
@abrahamroloff8671 Год назад
Rogue planets being formed, absolutely. Collecting stars/planets as it goes, seems unlikely. The momentum of the gas relative to such a black hole would make that hard to overcome.
@abeershukla3756
@abeershukla3756 Год назад
​@@abrahamroloff8671 i may be mistaken, but i believe that the interviewee did mention that these black holes can leave the galaxy with some of the stars. i do not understand the mechanism, of course. i am interested to know, that if it can have bonded planets, then could the black hole affect CMB radiation in a way, to create a large band of hospitability, provided that it is in deep space, and no other stuff would fall into the accretion disk, potentially sterilizing these planets. on the other hand, if it does form rogue planets but leaves them behind, then that can have interesting implications for the population of rogue planets in the milky way. perhaps passing stars would eventually slow down such planets, and eventually even capture them. perhaps the sheer spaces involved make such interactions highly unlikely, but i am curious if this finding increases the chances of ua finding an unexpected population of rogue planets in the oort cloud. so yeah, sorry for the long reply, but these are my two primary curiosities: 1) can a blackhole blueshift CMB to a degree that it could create a large band of hospitability in deep inter galactic space, if planets do form. it would be interesting if large gas giants or brown dwarfa with dozens or even hundreds of europa sized moon. there could be thousands of planets in thia band. 2) if the planets formed dont bond with the blackhole, then does it mean the population of rogue planets is much higher, and we should be more serious about finding rogue planets in the oort cloud.
@abrahamroloff8671
@abrahamroloff8671 Год назад
It'd leave the core of the galaxy with some bonded stars, they picked up speed with it originally, but picking up new ones on the way out is a whole other kettle. As to the Oort, I have no idea. Stars/planets created this way would take a very long time to fall back into the bulk of the galaxy, if ever.
@rebjorn79
@rebjorn79 Год назад
What if there are giant dragonflies out there in the void, say the size of a bus .. they feed on interstellar gas and make little nests on rogue asteroids
@prisonplanetearthcomplyordie
Hey hey guys
@christophercrowder872
@christophercrowder872 Год назад
Republicans aren't nasty. They are fascists. It's time for the media to start calling them that. MtG isn't a lunatic. She's a fascist. ALL of the media has a responsibility to begin using that term to refer to the Republicans to whom it applies. (Hint: that is 95% of them.)
@SmittyDealio
@SmittyDealio Год назад
I'm gay
@derp195
@derp195 Год назад
Cool, man. You do you.
@cyprus1005
@cyprus1005 Год назад
Hi gay Im punished snek
@FUBBA
@FUBBA Год назад
Same and noone cares; but are you a channel member tho?
@SmittyDealio
@SmittyDealio Год назад
@@FUBBA I will be when you gift me a membership
@conradrice9666
@conradrice9666 Год назад
I knew it.
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
Ph.D Scientist who specialized in Dragon Flies: “Guess I’m gonna start writing Astronomy textbooks .” Me building my 100k iPhone camera array. That’s 100,000*15,000,000 pixels…: “I wonder if I can use API’s, neural nets, ChatGPT, and some stats fo get an edge on Sports Betting and stick it to FanDuel cause they stole from me. Oh and I got to find a use for my one and a half trillion pixel array.”
@211212112
@211212112 Год назад
@@mal2ksc that's what I told my eel when I tried to get a couple dollars off him. He didn't say a word, but did shock the 💩 out of me.
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