Thank you. A lot I credit hear is the mosaic engineering anti-aliasing filter. It really takes the digital hard edge off the image. No hardlines or prickly digital features. It looks organic and smooths out skin + with a diffusion filter. The grade is pretty simple. THanks for the comment!
@@fourth1000 thanks! Do you think I could get the same results on BMPCC4k? BMCC 2.5k is stunning and this makes me want to purchase it. However Iso and framerate are quite limited...
@@gavrill00 also.. try a tiffen digital FX 1 for starters. it makes the skin like porcelain shine. You can get similar results with the pocket 4k.. I had one.. but back when they shot CDNG
Wow, thanks! I think its not only becuase of the 2.5k sensor but I have the mosaic engineering filter installed that smooth things out with skin tones. I'd recommend a digital diffusion filter to match whats going on here... it really helps and old people with crows feet and flaws will thank you.
@@fourth1000 you've come a lot closer than many mult-imillion dollar productions in imitating the look of 35 mm film. Have you ever seen this? You might dig it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4C3nRlHBpoI.html
@@kiksogue very nice vid! It's so identical. But still hard to judge on youtueb. I'd need to watch on my big screen. What I chase after is a healthy saturation that is'nt too rich. sharp in a way you can't perceive resolution.
@@fourth1000 Thanks for the tips! Did you also use a diffusion filter? Also do you reckon a diffusion filter and an IR filter with out the mosaic engineering aliasing filter would yield similar results? Thanks
@@robertredfern8001 I believe I used a tiffen digital diffusion fx1 for this and some other videos. Which camera are you using? I do recommend the diffusion FX Tiffen filter. Not a fan of filters like black pro mist. I do't like images too foggy. Similar results.... ish.... maybe. I'd rather have both the mosaic and the digital diffusion. The mosaic filter has IR filtration in it.
I think you found the right formula. Mft mount BMCC 2.5k speedbooster Nikon glass SLR Magic anamorphot adapter if I'm not mistaken. And now you'r making Hollywood looking staff here week by week. Cudos!
@@furycz3455 oh, man. sorry to hear that! Although, I cant help but find optimism by saying if the bar is so low- it leaves the industry wide open for someone with greatness to step in. lol.
This is amazing. Ever consider providing an After Effects color correction tutorial?? Seriously though, I own a BMPCC OG and the Black Magic Production camera 4k, and I'd like to achieve the same results. I can't be mainly the Mosaic filter. Can you share your actual steps to grading your footage in AE? I'm looking forward to your reply!
@@marvinsuarezstudios for me I use cinema dng and after effects. I denatured the yellow highlights and it gives the image a dry properly denatured look where the highlights blow out white instead of yellow in some instances it happens. Also, I use the mosaic anti aliasing filter for a more organic feel
I've watched everything on your channel, amazing footage - it looks so filmlike & 3D especially the 2.5k stuff. Wow. Is the capture process 2.5k, then MFT speedbooster, then filter, lens & finally anamorphot?
Correct! Those are all the components to my shooting process except one! My 2.5k footage mostly utilizes the mosaic engineering aliasing filter. I love it, it gets rid of hard lines and digital feeling sharpness. Everything looks organic and does wonders for skin, especially when coupled with my tiffen diffusion fx1 filter. I'm thinking of going back to my 2.5k camera again. I miss the look. Hopefully you keep watching. I'm assembling some narrative stuff to really test myself.
@@fourth1000 Sweet, well you really cracked it. I do like the BM 4k stuff too, it's a different look, more modern & clean but what you've achieved with your 2.5k setup is more special IMO. It calls back to a different era. I'm editing my 1st short at the moment, narrative-based, I wrote, directed & edited. I had a DP do the filming - Sony A6500. I struggled with the grade (8bit) but I'm happy with how it's turning out. Nothing like jumping in at the deep end, It really speeds up the learning curve! Good luck with yours & I've subscribed to keep up with your work!
@@crehanchris I;ve subbed to you as well. I hit the notification bell but please let me know if or when you upload it. even if it's a test. The A6500 is a great camera. Thank you for this great exchange. Community really helps push and inspire.
Dude, I'm BLOWN AWAY by the look you get out of the 2.5K. What on Earth is your secret to getting those amazing skintones? The Nikon lenses? Processing in ACR? Some color science voodoo? It's literally the best looking 2.5K stuff I've seen, and I've seen a lot.
Its all in my adobe camera raw settings. I desaturate highlights to rid of gross yellow. Up the orange channele to give it a warm look. and stick with 4800 kelvin area so it doesn't get too warm. Nikon lenses I wouldn't say are the key. I now use a zeiss set which kills this video look. I'm still playing with the pocket 4k. the 2.5k image I feel still out charms the pocket 4k.
oh! also, i'm using the mosaic engineering aliasing filter which is really nice for skin. It removes the digital edge from the image and almost gives it a tangible feel to the image.
@PRIVATE AhHH!!! There is no pocket 4k, yet. I'm talking with mosaics designers and ending my pocket 4k out to them so they can take measurements to make a new filter.
@@fourth1000 does the blackmagic micro and the blackmagic 2.5k have the same sensor? what is it about the 2.5k that you like better than the new pocket 4k? can you get the new pocket 4k to look like the 2.5k through grading/editing? thanks! your footage is the closest to actual film i've ever seen from a digital camera!
@@fourth1000 I recently bought a BMCC MFT. Orginally preordered one back in 2013 but cancelled it in favour for the ill fated BMPC4K which suffers from banding noise and poor DR. I'm looking for a Metabones SB because it suppose to control the iris independently from the camera.
@@simonc4764 it does. The bmpcc has fixed patter noise after iso 800. The highlight roll off is still the best next to the pocket original. I loathed the bmpc4k for the same reason. I'm using the ursa mini 4.6k and its so far so good... except It being picky with the lenses.
If you’re looking for a speedbooster for a bmpcc it has to say bmpcc for the best look. The bmpcc one will convert your bmpcc into a super 35 camera with the crop factor of 1.75x. The bmcc .64x one will work but the crop factor will be 1.93x. And the regular mft .71x label ones will work also but the crop on it will only be 3.02x for the bmpcc and a 2.39x for the bmcc so it won’t give you that wider film look if that makes sense. The speedbooster that says bmpcc wont work with the bmcc, but the one with the bmcc on it will work for both. If you try to mount the bmpcc one on the bmcc one it’ll damage your sensor because the glass is deeper it’ll also damage any other mft camera as well unless you get the mft label one. Ha I hope this makes sense lol it’s a lot to type out.
I'm guessing you did an up-res to 4K in post? Not seeing a real difference between this and other footage you've posted. Pretty sure this takes up more hard drive space and makes editing more difficult. Did you find you gained something from the process?
this 4k test was so I can watch 4k or cleaner version on my youtube tv app. For some reason, only my tv doesn't display proper aspect ratio when viewing my anamorphic videos. The image is squished. So I squeezed the image in a 2.5k square pixel aspect ratio but I loose the 1440p option and it only displays in 1080. So I upscaled to 4K to see if there would be a higher resolution option.
I've had that happen with my RU-vid TV based app as well. Solution was to bypass the in TV app and use the Amazon Firestick or Roku for streaming instead. Haven't had a problem since. Firesticks are about $40 I think. Cheaper when on sale. (got mine for $25) Additionally, RU-vid compression isn't the greatest. Have you considered opening a (free) Vimeo account and posting there? (I'd follow you, lol...) Side note: Most people shoot 4k to cover themselves in post. If they didn't have time to get coverage on set, they pull it from a wider shot by dropping their 4k footage onto a 1080 timeline. I'd be curious to see if you could do the same with this footage. Wondering how the enlargements would hold up from up-res footage. THAT'S a test I'd like to see. (hint hint!) PS: All looks great by the way.
I was thinking that. maybe linking from my youtube channel. I hear vimeo is abandoned. I'd have to look in to it..... sure, why not. lol. I know I could just put a sheet of grain over the image but will I like it??? hmmm.
