Fun fact: blackout and grindor were 2 of megatons favorite decepticons, it's often said that if they were to join the autobots, the tide of war would drastically change, they are bigger, and stronger than megaton. The size difference alone is frightening, but when u take in their weapons, covert ops capability, and all around stealth, it's scary to think about what they could have done if given more screen time. Black out and scorpinok were the soul reason they were able to find out Sam even existed
@@user-gq4dy7ds4y u sure, in one scene, based off of size alone they have more bulk and weight to them than megatron, so from that perspective they could be somewhat stronger
The first scene in TF1 with Blackout was the best scene in the whole movies its so incredible how they build this scene with epicness, the warnings from the general, the transformation, the unknown from the people, the camera moves just everything is so fine
I love how they realized that Blackout was too OP so they nerfed him the second time he showed up in the city during the final act. He could have just spammed his KILLEVERYTHING blaster or whatever that thing is called. Instead he uses it only once and it's already super ineffective. Then Grindor is just Blackout without that blaster.
well if you think about it blackout did not want to kill brawl or accidently crush him self theres buildings sourunding him and if he wouid have accidently shot a really big blast he might miss and accidently hit brawl and kill him you have to think about these things to really understand them
@@JesusChrist-go4kd they the same he was in the water with megatron the spark that hit megatron sparked him to and he scanned another chopper bonecrusher came back Bc of this to but if you watch grinder carefully you can see rust on him for being in the water so long.
@@62nichols94 Roberto Orci, screenwriter, said he didn’t think they are the same. TFWiki.Net Hasbro Q&A for July 2009 stated that Grindor appears, not blackout, implying they are 2 different bots. Also, they aren’t the same helicopter and would have required blackout to grow another 10-15 feet almost
Grindor wasn't bad, with the extra scenes added he actually looks a little more dangerous when fighting Prime. Blackout was more ruthless. I like then both, they just look badass. Blackout & Grindor were my favorites growing up. Although I thought it was the same bot in both films
what are you talking about, they're literally immune to bullets, and it took multiple missiles and grenades shot into Blackout's weaker areas just to barely kill him
Yes, Optimus mostly just relies on others for his survival. I mean, it was a 3 vs 1 but if you look at literally ALL of the movies, he wouldn't have been able to survive without the help of other Transformers/humans. In both ROTF and DOTM even by Deceptions. I think that is one of the greatest weaknesses of the Bayverse, the movies are just too repetitive.
@@iForix what?! On ROTF he got killed cause of Sam while he was clearly winning but he was worried for him so he had to stop fighting while on DOTM it was the first time he lost a fight on AOE he got toe with Lockdown and when he got the upper hand on him he had to stop again this time for Cade in TLK he wins and actually it's not repetitive but it's adds more to the last fight instead of just being the generic the good guy is gonna always win no matter what and also it shows Optimus' real weakness his caring for protecting the humans i mean even Megatron on TF1 said "You still fight for the weakest that's why you always lose!" And then they said they didn't got Optimus Prime right 😒😒😒 if it wasn't for Sam on ROTF Optimus would have won same on AOE for Cade while on DOTM he lost cause he was overwhelmed by his rage and wasn't even blocking the hits no more but even if he could block the hits Sentinel had his DOUBLE SWORD and a SHIELD while Optimus had just one energon sword and an energon axe if he had his shield too Optimus would have lasted longer for sure i mean look at the fight against Lockdown he got the upper hand on him fighting with just his shield
PEOPLE THIS IS SO UNDERRATED. The detail and the awesomeness of the michal bay verse is so well done visually. Story is not the best but the visuals redeem the whole series for me ❤❤
Seeing this vid now, I noticed that Blackout and Grindor have different alt modes. Blackout's a Pave Low while Grindor is a Super Stallion. Both in real life look similar (since a Super Stallion is a Pave Low variant but on steroids) which explains why a lot of people, including me, mistook them as the same character though both characters and helicopters have a few minor difference: 1. A Pave Low has 2 engines and 6 blades while a Super Stallion has 3 engines and 7 blades 2. Grindor is noticeably taller and bulkier than Blackout but without the EMP cannon.
I think the Wiki said Grindor still has an energy wave cannon but we never see him use it as he would have hit Megatron and Star Scream if he tried to use it in the forest battle.
Blackout is my favorite Transformer/character Grindor is not badass than Blackout,the Blackout death is so ridiculous,idiot and in my opinion Blackout on militar base is best Transformers scene of all time
@@Renkurb It Doesn't Make Sense Because Grindor Is *More* Bigger And His Alt Mode Was Sikorsky CH53 Super Stallion Helicopter While Blackout Is Sikorsky MH53 Pave Low III
Grindor and Blackout best 5 scenes: 0:27-Grindor's death 2:00-One-way fligt 2:45-Blackout's death 4:10- Blackout incoming 5:02-Bogie 4500 X-Ray Thanks to youu)))....
@@rahulmurali8302blackout is 33 feet tall and grinder is 50 feet and transformers into a ch 53 super stallion and meanwhile blackout turns into mh 53 pave low
Tbh. I love to call this/These Characters "Grind-out" because i don't mind if they're one or 2 very similar characters as many fans tend to think about Blackout/Grindor and also "Grind-Out" Sounds VERY Badass
(repost) 1:25 starscream: ow! megatron: hey! grindor: no ,my blades!*grunts*my arm! megatron: hey you made me miss! 1:37 grindor: *grunts,stumbles* starscream: hey ,no!*panic shots* grindor: friendly fire starscream! *shoots back and grunts* 1:42 starscream: hey grindor! little help here! grindor: wait up just let me unstuck this sword!*grunts* there we go.oh no-*grumbles* no, wait! grindor(again): my eye!*growls*nooo!!!(powers down)
The most powerfull destruction weapons millitary decepticon (Blackout) and Grindor is a brutal colossus Blackout death have not logical to his powers. (Just a stupid giant robot in Michael Bay mind). Better than some Marvel things.
I feel like Grindor was used underrated by the Producers because unlike Blackout, Grindor didn't really see that much combat nor did as much as Blackout did in 07
Um actually Blackout and Grindor are the same character Hassbro just messed up on the marketing and they left it in the film cause when Dr Scalpel brought Megatron back to life he also brought back Bonecrusher, Brawl, and Blackout we just only saw them in the background but just they’re still the same as the we’re in the first film.
Fun fact blackout and grindor looks the same but blackout is smaller it's only 34 feet but grindor is 55 feet they are like younger brother and older brother
Me either!!! He went from effortlessly destroying a military base to losing to a handful of them. Like when starscream also died to f'ing Sam when he got shot in the eye smh
Salut mon ami trop cool blackout mon préféré de tous je le connaît part coeur il est redoutable et puissant comme tout il parle rarement mais c'est attaque et efficace pour tout détruire grindor je t'aime mon ami tes génial tu mérite un énorme pouce bleu mon ami continue comme sa tes vidéos son génial 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
