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@dumptruckfpv22 4 месяца назад

Good evening, I know this is an old video, but I'm new to helis and just traded a rc buggy to a friend for his used, slightly crashed 330s, haven flown it but just did a spin up test after replacing the blades and other few items that were damaged, and it had a decent wobble/vibration. Sure enough, bent shaft, didn't think to really check it. So thank you for the video, diffently save me from future issues. Thanks again, fly safe.

@BrianPhillipsRC 4 месяца назад

We're glad you could get some value out of our video! Thanks for being here with us!

@brianreece785 2 года назад

There is a thrust bearing in the blade grips, as well as the sealed bearing. It is very important they are installed correctly and greased with silicon grease. Also use locktight on the spindle bolts. If they come loose it will be a carbon fiber spear that could be deadly! Also replace the tail blades, they turn much faster than main blades so balance is an issue. I really enjoy your videos and you have a nice family, don't won't anyone to get hurt.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I will check that out for sure. Thanks!

@JonathanGurgul Год назад

I had a feathering shaft malfunction that sent a blade flying right past me on a trex 450 10 years ago. I happened to get it on video. I always paid close attention to detail when building helicopters like my Trex 700N but someone else had built this one. After that I always took apart head assemblies and re assembled them correctly myself.

@TechNoPhobiaGirl 2 года назад

The part you bent, Brian, is called the 'feathering shaft' (or spindle). It connects the two blade grips together. You should NOT bend it back, it should be replaced with a new one (cuz you'll NEVER get it perfectly straight again!). Lots of guys straighten them, like you did, but I wouldn't do that. It'll get you flying again, tho, until you can replace it with a new one. Nice job, tho! To REMOVE the feathering shaft, remove one blade grip, like you did, and then pull on the ATTACHED blade grip and the shaft will come out. Don't forget about all the thrust bearings, tho, and MAKE SURE they go back together in the PROPER order/orientation. The 'bare' ball bearing ring you referred to is called a 'thrust bearing,' and it's comprised of THREE pieces. DON'T MIX THEM UP or turn one (or more) of the pieces the wrong way around! They MUST be put together the CORRECT way or they don't function properly. Once you REPLACE the feathering shaft with a new one, the vibration should go away, I would think. Really enjoyed your coverage of the 330, Brian. As always!

@MikeSarni 2 года назад

Excellent explanation also don’t forget Loctite on those screws to the feathering shaft

@TechNoPhobiaGirl 2 года назад

@@MikeSarni Right! Forgot that part! Hehe

@MikeSarni 2 года назад

@@TechNoPhobiaGirl no worries dude like I said excellent explanation 🤙

@MikeSarni 2 года назад

@@DronemanJoeRc For sure I always replace main shaft and feathering just to be safe

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks for sure! Always learning new stuff, especially with heli's!!! Okay, I THINK I got the thrust bearings right, but if I didn't - is there a trick to knowing??? I also, as mentioned in another comment, didn't grease them when I put them back on....can I use white lithium grease???

@Bill14886 2 года назад

Brian Technophobia nailed it. Take his advice and order replacement parts. Get a couple and keep them in stock. Same with extra Blades , and ⚙️ gears. Once you crash a few times you'll get better at repairing theses birds. Remember blue loctite will be needed on that feather shaft. It's a must. Loosing a blade at full RPM can put a eye out. 👁. If you put to much loctite on something: heat the part with a solder iron pencil tip for a few seconds to soften the loctite. Oh don't forget to balance your blades. Lots of videos on that on you tube. A couple of tall glasses and long bolt 🔩 will do the trick. Lots to learn . Good luck , you'll be a pro in no time😁

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks for the tip! Blue loctite - check ;) I will check out balancing procedure. I have a fixed wing plane prop balancing tool, and have had varying levels of success.

@MikeSarni 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC You won’t necessarily have to balance the main blades I never did but the tailblades on some models do cause resonance enough to make you visually see some pretty decent vibrations. So I usually do what you do with airplane props I’ll stick a piece of tape on one Tail blade if it gets worse I move to the other blade and I’ll just try to get it close ( meaning size of the tape) to where it’s not vibrating Bad or causing an issue …. You probably won’t get it perfect but you will get it running way better that’s all that matters.

@westhobbiesrc8051 2 года назад

Also those “broken” looking bearing are called thrust bearing. Always grease them when putting everything back together. I have tons of heli. Repair videos on my channel. Also always pull the other side of the feathering shaft bolt out and re Loctite both screws.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks! Thrust bearing. Can I use lithium grease?

@westhobbiesrc8051 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC you can, you want a grease that won’t sling out. Really any grease will work, every one has there favorites

@leonbroekharst4724 2 года назад

I have had the same problem. Just take a flatt underground, And use a hamer. Works for me. Waiting on New parts take sometimes very long

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I agree, but seems many of the Heli experts think it's somewhat dangerous (and they're probably right).

@Pauly_______ 2 месяца назад

26:20 thanks for the mod 👍

@westhobbiesrc8051 2 года назад

The part you bent is called a “feathering shaft” never bend them back as they will break from stress cracks. Always always always replace main and feathering shafts in a crash. They are cheap! Even in a tip over I will replace the feathering shaft.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I see

@KB-kv9wt 2 года назад

Couto's Brian and Camera Crew. Your plane videos are awesome, made me buy the FMS Ranger, UMX Turbo Timber , and of course the Turbo Timber Evo. I am a heli guy for .........(cough) years now and really appreciate the heli videos ! Terminology shmermanoligy, love the fact you guys are putting it out there !

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Glad you like them! Thanks K B!

@shanehoule9477 2 года назад

Nice helli got the 150 love it. This is definitely easier to see when at sum distance. Love your videos you guys are a good team

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks Shane - just flew it after checking my forward programming for another comment - super fun, and crazy powerful for in the living room ;) (flying the 150S...not the 330s - LOL - didn't want to confuse anyone)

@DetoursRC 2 года назад

I keep blades, tailblades and feathering shaft spares. The tiniest bend in that shaft will throw things off and they arent expensive. Locktite is also important on those screws holding the blade grip to the shaft. One of those babies comes loose someone could get impaled.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I need to get my hands on some of these spare parts. I used to have TWO full sets of pieces for my CP One back in the day, and I used them all the time, since it was HARD to fly...and I was terrible!

@brianreece785 2 года назад

Hi Brian, please replace any part that gets damaged. I have flown heli's for many years and even in a minor incident you can do more damage than you think. Main and spindle shafts are common parts to bend, even so slightly. This can create a very dangerous situation if not addressed. I have seen carbon fiber blades come apart and nearly hitting me and others.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

That's scary Brian!!! Safety glasses and hard hat?

@nick138 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC I've had a Align 470lm carbon blade fly off and it flew into the ground, it went 5 1/2 inches into the ground. These Heli's can be extremely dangerous . It's best just to replace any item that is worn/defective.

@prsachsen 2 года назад

Nice heli brian. i have the blade 230sv2 smart. it's a amazing heli. Mine will get a scale fuselage (as350) by microheli soon.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

SWEET! I've been thinking about the Huey body for her ;)

@donaldtrainsaccicraftk27ei73 Год назад

Bad luck with my brand new 330s just loaded on my NX10, testing the Heli, the Heli landed trying to trim the elevation, while it was setting on the ground, powering down about on hold the blade links came off, the swash the Heli rolled to the right, the blades tip's hit the ground glad my AMA card is updated. Going to return the monster to Horizon much to unsafe.

@dutchloveRC 2 года назад

nicely done Brian

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thank you kindly

@chadnonnya8592 2 года назад

U got that many planes really. I would b happy to take ur hand me downs. Lol. U always got good videos

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks Chad ;)

@zmanphx 4 месяца назад

Note: Never take apart helicopter over granite counter top. You will drop tiny screws and it will bounce off and get lost. Place a towel or small blanket to catch any parts that fall.

@grumpyjohntxredneckrc6346 2 года назад

Your Welcome! 😁😎

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks again John - Really made dealing with my balls so much easier ;)

@Mao_tse_tung 2 года назад

Your getting a lot better at helis! I been neglecting my planes cause of practicing helis but it is beneficial in terms of coordination. So when’s the blade 480 video gonna happen? Lol

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

480 - as soon as I can get this one a BIT better, I can see it on the Horizon ;) I want it bad, but man...it looks pretty scary!!!!

@petewatts30 2 года назад

Feathering shafts are cheap get a few spares. Also you're getting really good at flying heli's now.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks Mark! I've heard they're real easy to bend too.

@SupremeRC 2 года назад

Great improvement, try a set of carbon tail blade. I fly cp helis full comp style. FYI every crash replace the feathering shaft and most likely the main shaft. Isolation from the tale would be most likely the tail shaft. If there's chips in those plastic blades don't buy the stock blades find a corresponding carbon set and it will do wonders. I love seeing your progression you're doing great keep up the hell yeah I want to see a Tik-Tok Aura pirouetting Tik-Tok before the end of the summer. Keep up the great work.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks for your support. I want to do a Tik-Tok too ;) I feel more comfortable with the heli's than I did before, but still nowhere near I'd like to be.

@SupremeRC 2 года назад

When checking a Feathering shaft take one blade off and leave the other blade on put your driver into the Feathering shaft fold and twist if the opposite side rolls around then you know it's bent if it is plum and continues to spend straight it is not bent. I hope that makes sense

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

It does. thanks!

@archiegoodall1375 2 года назад

Looks amazing with snow background 😍

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Totally!

@heliguy9045 2 года назад

Nice flying, i noticed that your tail blades are kina lose. need to tighten them up where its bighting a little. i startled with those size but now i fly 600 size and up. keep flying and you'll get better. those spindles are notorious for bending when you slam them on the ground.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I'll tighten them up right now - thanks!

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Just did it. Now we'll see how that works ;)

@heliguy9045 2 года назад

Flying RC helicopter has a lot of moving parts not like airplanes .it involves a lot of maintenance. I almost gave up on them but I really enjoy flying them.

@nsbob70 4 месяца назад

10:32...Page 61 brother. ;) 10:43..Yup, whole thing's probably turning. Need to pull other rotor off. (Aforementioned exploded diagram does NOT show those little bushings or washers on the rotor blades. Of course, I looked at a new heli's instruction manual, maybe they've changed it as this video is 2 years old now. funny to see your older videos with so few r/c's in the room. 24:25..I feel the SAME WAY! lol Sometimes easier to just fly 'shirtless'..

@jakelang4387 2 года назад

i think you like that 330 ,,i bought a used one on a deal to good to pass up ,, but it needs the tail gear put in may get there when the weather warms up

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Glad you picked one up! Great heli!

@leonbroekharst4724 2 года назад

Super video

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks leon!

@jpap1059 2 года назад

If you like the 330s you’ll love the Fusion 360 in 3s.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I can't wait ;)

@ambrosekillpack4841 2 года назад

Bigger helicopter are almost easier to fly in 3D mode than they are in safe mode once you actually learn how because just having that additional cyclic authority and being able to make those steeper banks makes much tighter turns possible. It's easier to turn and thus you are less likely to spin out thus losing orientation and crashing.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

yes!

@N8904V 2 года назад

If you replace feathering shaft and main shaft you should be golden.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Both Feathering Shafts? (or is it just one kit?)

@aratidwell1064 2 года назад

It has GOT TO BE YOUR SPINDLE. Either that or there's something wrong with the tail belt, part of the belt is stripped.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks Ara, I'll check that too!

@thisisbadstuff 2 года назад

Best to just replace bent parts. You're never going to get them perfectly straight just eyeballing them. I have had my fair share of improvised repairs to where I got the helicopter to look vibration free but when I take off in a stabilization mode it just banks and pitches uncontrollably. Any minor vibration can cause a crash especially if you use any sort of stabilization mode. Your helicopter may look like it's vibrating less but that's only because you're taking the vibrations out of resonance frequency but if the frequency/amplitude happens to be something that the gyros don't like you might put yourself in a lot of trouble.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

yes, true

@bill3461 2 года назад

Wouldn't it make sense to change the throttle % while in safe mode to 65% with no cut out when you pull the stick down? When you flip back to safe mode at least your motor rpm would not fall off if you have the stick under center.

@jakelang4387 2 года назад

cool

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Love this heli!

@canadianrcpilot9048 2 года назад

LOL you’re getting more comfortable with helicopters and I’m getting more comfortable with fixed wing. LOL any chance that those pitch links to the blades are adjustable? I know on some larger helicopters they are. Only reason I ask ‘ cause it almost looked like your blades were out of sync but then it could’ve just been the camera angle. Cheers if both blades are out of sync and not in the same pitch at mid stick should be 0° pitch than your travel between both Blades will be different and you will get vibration

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I can't say, but agree - seems, thought, might be even more catastrophic ;) Although, seems an infinite level of sensitivity between imperfection and actual values on a heli - and I consider myself "picky" - maybe just not a true heli pilot "picky" LOL Thanks!!! I will take a close look at this too - hope this isn't an issue, but if it is, and I missed it, better to find out now!!!

@smallfieldflying4677 2 года назад

Great flight, I've read some horror stories about this model but yours seemed ok.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I have too, and totally don't get it. I LOVE this one. I've had other heli's that are way nicer, in build quality too, but this thing FLIES GREAT. I want a great flying, easy to build confidence platform, and knowing what you know about where I am in my progression into Heli flying, I trust you can see this is the PERFECT choice ;) Now, I just need the next step so I can get really crazy!

@DetoursRC 2 года назад

Its the flight controller. I had one that did some crazy unpredictable stuff in safe mode. It would pull right soo hard that full left stick would barely keep it in one spot. Replaced it and it seems fine now. I think its something to do with the attitude trim in forward programming or some are just buggy.

@Navy6438 2 года назад

Any word on when you will be getting and testing the New SR-22

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

They're just not here yet. We will ASAP when it comes. Excited!

@mastersteel1079 2 года назад

Hello Brian😁😁😁😁its new super elicopter

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Sure is!

@mastersteel1079 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC Yes😁😁😁😁😁🔝🔝🔝🔝🔝great elicopter,

@antoniofrance8 2 года назад

No! You take it out its give you incredible desire it's beautiful I can buy me one when God wants thank you for your video

@antoniofrance8 2 года назад

The best flight is 3d train you a little 3D it's the hardest of aeromodeling flight and the most pleasant I can get started with a 110 s kc which is the best to learn 3D

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Thanks!

@corneleousworthington4566 Год назад

what's easier to fly? 230S or 330S (each in SAFE mode)

@roedere 2 года назад

How have you survived without a ball-link tool? Must have tool!

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

I guess heli guys need them a bit more than plane guys ;)

@roedere 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRCYeah, I’ve only had a few planes with ball-links on the controls surfaces. Not common, but boy is there no slip in the controls.

@Mao_tse_tung 2 года назад

Also the tail blades are too loose and your main ones should fall if you hold the heli on it’s side and quickly move it downward, almost like a drop, the blades should fall evenly about half way.

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Okay. I can adjust that. The tail I just tightened. Haven't flown it yet...still dark here, and CRAZY windy ;)

@westhobbiesrc8051 2 года назад

Always always always always Loctite every screw!,

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

What type of loctite do you use?

@westhobbiesrc8051 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC I personally use blue 243 because 242 is very finicky about clean screws where 243 will hold no matter what. Of course it’s always good to clean all screws in rubbing alcohol

@donmeyers7832 2 месяца назад

Wobbling might be a servo going bad

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 месяца назад

Yeah, that could be something to check out. I think in this case there's just not enough resolution on the servo.

@antoniofrance8 2 года назад

I have an xk 127 micro helico I've been starting for 2 months and I really enjoy myself soon I'm going to see my first plane again too (I'd like to ask you on my helico when I put full throttle lhelico turns right 1/4 on himself I changed tail engine and propeller but nothing has to change what advice will you do it

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Sometimes the heli's can't keep up with full throttle...wonder if there's something wrong with it. The flight controller? I'm sorry, I don't know exactly what more to try...heli's are not my primary thing, so I'm still learning a lot myself. As for the first plane, good luck as you think about your choices. Here's my recommendations for beginners to date... Description | Purchase | Videos Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/38Kilv1 - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/3bS2r3O - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM T-28 Trojan 1.1m bit.ly/3eOh9Lk - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc6-_gHuXM6a1Nf_2nRxrmlc Apprentice 1.2m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS Sport Cub S2 UMX bit.ly/3cDYUW1 - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy AeroScout 1.1m - bit.ly/30MNn1c - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vfZZQXx7jU4.html Trekker 1.2 RTF bit.ly/34jhgLZ | PNP bit.ly/35xOPu8 - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc7b7RhCrnT4x4AYrqRVhFHf Bigfoot 1.3m RTF - bit.ly/30mYdOq - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc7elVLLXihkLRs_J4QQ0Hm- Pioneer 620mm RTF - bit.ly/2YotgbY - ru-vid.com/group/PLXTH0DstRDc5DZarP-qgPO3IEliNvnPuP

@antoniofrance8 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC The problem is on the helicopter model type eachine e129 but in wltoy Xk with flight maintenance and take-off and self landing model name: xk 127 Type of problem the outcome I put the gases lhelico turns on its right on itself it depends on sometimes it makes no noise I changed the rear rotor as well as the propeller but it continues that the advice do you

@antoniofrance8 2 года назад

pence that I was able to damage a brain?

@antoniofrance8 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC I too would say lemeteur but do you think it can be a brain I don't pence because I don't hear strange noise like then I check the main tree can that be the problem?

@fastrack59 2 года назад

Hi Brian! I have a question that’s unrelated to this video. Is it safe to use one lipo battery for four esc’s in parallel? I was contemplating on using one 5000mah 3s 30c battery for my 1600mm Freewing B17. Is this advisable? Or will this set up cause an overload to the battery and blow it up?! Thanks! BTW, love your videos!

@BrianPhillipsRC 2 года назад

Depends on the load. Should be no problem, but just make sure you have enough current and C rating to cover your load. I don't know why it would be a huge issue. I've run 4 EDF's on a 3S 5000mAh pack myself. Big thing is to make sure you don't go crazy on throttle.

@fastrack59 2 года назад

@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks man. I’ve tested a 5000 mah 30c 3s on my Freewing 1600mm B17. On 3/4 throttle for 3 mins straight, everything went well. Battery did not heat up. With 35% charge left thereafter.