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Blasphemy at the Old Bailey- Mary Whitehouse vs Gay News, 1977 

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@brettfawcett9391
@brettfawcett9391 4 года назад
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@fairsplitdivorceseparation8015
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@footynutguy
@footynutguy 3 года назад
I just stumbled across this. I had no idea that this had happened. Hopefully attitudes have changed enough that this wouldn't happen today.
@guidadiehl9176
@guidadiehl9176 2 года назад
Have you ever read the poem? This is a part of it. I'm LGBT (transgender), and not Christian, but I still think it is utterly revolting, and the idea that it wasn't deliberately written to profane Christ & the Christian faith is utterly laughable. It's very telling that this program deliberately omits almost the entirety of the poem from its script - the jury in the real trial would have been given copies to read, hence why nobody should be surprised that they deemed it blasphemous. "As they took him from the cross I, the centurion, took him in my arms- the tough lean body of a man no longer young, beardless, breathless, but well hung. He was still warm. While they prepared the tomb I kept guard over him. His mother and the Magdalen had gone to fetch clean linen to shroud his nakedness. I was alone with him. For the last time I kissed his mouth. My tongue found his, bitter with death. I licked his wound- the blood was harsh For the last time I laid my lips around the tip of that great cock, the instrument of our salvation, our eternal joy. The shaft, still throbbed, anointed with death's final ejaculation. I knew he'd had it off with other men- with Herod's guards, with Pontius Pilate, With John the Baptist, with Paul of Tarsus with foxy Judas, a great kisser, with the rest of the Twelve, together and apart. He loved all men, body, soul and spirit. - even me..."
@JN-wr9he
@JN-wr9he Год назад
Obviosuly. Everyone in the west is ‘Je suis Chaelie’ these days.
@Loehengrin
@Loehengrin 3 года назад
I think John Mortimer rather put his foot in it, reminding the jury of the prosecution's closing arguments, after such an eloquent defence by Blake
@jevonator_9479
@jevonator_9479 5 лет назад
Why was Mary Whitehouse reading Gay News in the first place?
@robertmcelwaine7024
@robertmcelwaine7024 4 года назад
Makes you think that she just went out of her way to find things to bitch and moan about.
@whocrusader5179
@whocrusader5179 4 года назад
Robert McElwaine bitch and moan!? Wrong, she was reading it because of the disgrace of the writer/editor actions of being gay and opposing against the righteousness of our most powerful part of religion!
@robertmcelwaine7024
@robertmcelwaine7024 4 года назад
@@whocrusader5179 But how would she have even known that there was a poem that she would have categorized as being *blasphemous* in the first place? And is it even factually true that it is. You can't prove without a shadow of a doubt that Jesus was indeed the messiah and within the context of the poem and it's intent, that it was somehow disrespectful of him. And even if he for the sake of opposing a *powerful* part of religion who was Whitehouse or anyone else for that matter to deny him the right to do so. It's called freedom of expression and to quell it was an act of oppression by a woman who was nothing more than a glorified fascist.
@whocrusader5179
@whocrusader5179 4 года назад
Robert McElwaine Fascist!? You better the respect the dead woman who tried to take back order! Now as of this pandemic, California is now the dark evil siege of accepting things of some men and women becoming gay and won’t even stop!😖 The most people parts of our world are becoming a heretic, who doesn’t believe in god! You should also understand that Jesus is NOT a homosexual! Indeed Not because all of church beliefs and bibles, it was never stated that he was!
@robertmcelwaine7024
@robertmcelwaine7024 4 года назад
@@whocrusader5179 Yes, she was a fascist If you curtail people's freedom of speech and impose your religious views on someone then that's precisely what you are. You therefore are an apologist for a fascist, and a defender of a homophobic, out of touch old dinosaur who should have gone extinct a long time ago. As for atheists, you are aware that the country's with the lowest levels of crime in the world are secular based ones. Allegedly religion is supposed to give you better morals and create a moral stable society. Apparently the truth proves to be quite different. I'm a Heretic matey boy, and proud of it! I don't use some archaic religion as an excuse to hate on people. Not that every religious person does, but it's idiots like you that gives those who are more moderate and loving a bad name.
@coltaylordyath5180
@coltaylordyath5180 3 года назад
1:40 "To coordinate the fight against obscenity in the media" Back in the day, we reviled her (especially for coming down heavy on Doctor Who). Now we really need more like her. Morality has gone downhill completely, and if she were alive today to see what is going on, she'd be turning in her grave.
@whocrusader5179
@whocrusader5179 3 года назад
Yes Mary Whitehouse was a nice teaching woman, and we have to respect her because she made a difference when television was then ambitious
@dmmoctober
@dmmoctober 2 года назад
But u cant deny that Rehab is a great track
@dmmoctober
@dmmoctober 2 года назад
In all seriousness I suspect she’d be sleeping peacefully in her grave given current state of Dr Who fandom
@aacmove
@aacmove 2 года назад
@@whocrusader5179 She was a bible bashing sentimental old fool. Perhaps the Kardashian's are a result of her failings, but they have a right to be vulgar, and we have a right to switch them off. No MW required in that equation. If you don't like something you know where the button is.
@MrThecarebear
@MrThecarebear Год назад
@@whocrusader5179 I cannot respect someone who was a prude and a bigot.
@Spacecookie-
@Spacecookie- Год назад
Religious blasphemy has nothing to do with law, unless it is harmful to people directly. People's beliefs are personal and should have nothing to do with outside influences saying this or that. To most people it doesn't make an ounce of difference to their lives if this poem exists and is read or not, other than authoritarianism and control shouldn't be abided in any civilised society. Personal belief in whatever religion each believes in, or the freedom to not believe in any religion should not be dictated from an outside source.
@turtlegrams6582
@turtlegrams6582 Год назад
they blow up a paper for allah but it's horrible to charge for Blasphemy against THE SAVIOUR OF the world
@Osman-mj5rf
@Osman-mj5rf 20 часов назад
Tit
@The_KLF
@The_KLF 4 года назад
Mary Whitehouse glorified jimmy Saville with an award
@whocrusader5179
@whocrusader5179 4 года назад
How curious
@lardonirdesco
@lardonirdesco 3 года назад
@@whocrusader5179 True Story bro.. She declared him a "Wholesome family entertainer"... That aged well at least.....
@a81758
@a81758 2 года назад
Very few people knew what he was up to back then
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly Год назад
@@a81758 more than you’ll ever dream of knew what he was up to 🤮
@ukchristian28
@ukchristian28 Год назад
@@lardonirdesco Because as far as most people at the time were concerned, he WAS a wholesome family entertainer. The content of his shows was wholesome family entertainment.
@a81758
@a81758 2 года назад
God loved everybody. But he said go and sin no more.
@mikeysussex321
@mikeysussex321 7 лет назад
One of the most disgraceful convictions of all time. RIP Denis Lemon.
@iwenttothecoleherne5331
@iwenttothecoleherne5331 7 лет назад
Amen!
@whocrusader5179
@whocrusader5179 4 года назад
STFU! The conviction in court of this sort that was is considered as JUSTICE!
@lardonirdesco
@lardonirdesco 3 года назад
@@whocrusader5179 You can STFU.... Blasphemy is no longer a crime under UK common law. If this was to go to trial today it would by definition actually be "One of the most disgraceful convictions of all time." as it would be a decision going against common law.
@lardonirdesco
@lardonirdesco 3 года назад
​@@whocrusader5179 Yes I remember it, and I clearly remember it better than you as citing this is not going to end well for you. Firstly this took place in Ireland which is not part of the UK. Secondly it never actually went to trial and was only a police investigation. And finally the investigation was thrown out after the Garda failed to find a "substantial number of outraged people".. Which I think proves my point about Blasphemy being a victimless crime... Citation: www.independent.ie/irish-news/stephen-fry-blasphemy-probe-dropped-after-gardai-fail-to-find-substantial-number-of-outraged-people-35692915.html
@pamelacorbett8774
@pamelacorbett8774 Год назад
Victimless crime? How about Christ?
@schinaro
@schinaro 4 года назад
Ooooh it’s Blake! 12:24
@coltaylordyath5180
@coltaylordyath5180 3 года назад
A post in the Blakes 7 Fans group brought me here.
@pamelacorbett8774
@pamelacorbett8774 Год назад
Wonder how many of these stalwart defenders had kids?
@mgtowchampion7961
@mgtowchampion7961 4 года назад
And a couple of decades before this facist court case soldiers were fighting facism in europe. It looks like we never learn.
@guidadiehl9176
@guidadiehl9176 2 года назад
You can't even spell "fascist," so I don't think you're a very good judge of what does and does not constitute "fascism."
@mgtowchampion7961
@mgtowchampion7961 2 года назад
@@guidadiehl9176 so its not Fascism to ban something you don't agree with then ? Grow a brain you idiot.
@mgtowchampion7961
@mgtowchampion7961 2 года назад
@@guidadiehl9176 so how does it feel to support an old fucking witch such as Mary whitehouse ?
@mgtowchampion7961
@mgtowchampion7961 2 года назад
@@guidadiehl9176 just because of a typo mistake that I did it doesn't disprove the fact. You have no case.
@JN-wr9he
@JN-wr9he Год назад
And a few decades later the freedom of speech of those who disagree with current gender politics is taken away completely.
@binghamguevara6814
@binghamguevara6814 3 года назад
23:48. The Demon Headmaster.Ha ha.
@Mulaaks15
@Mulaaks15 2 года назад
This is extraordinary.
@Reginald-Montgomery-Astird-III
@Reginald-Montgomery-Astird-III 3 года назад
The most thought provoking moment for me was when the magistrate says "or by some miracle, after his death" If ever a juror were to be held in contempt it would be me if I were hearing this case, I would laugh, I just know I would. Not that I don't appreciate the gravity of the situation, but that's still funny.
@repentbeforeitstoolate..8239
Hurray for sister Mary Whitehouses win!..l remember this .
@booth2710
@booth2710 3 года назад
32.45 Is that Blake 7 ?
@daisykitiibwa1211
@daisykitiibwa1211 3 года назад
51:17
@JN-wr9he
@JN-wr9he Год назад
Eloquently spoken. How ironic then that the pendulum has swung so much that those same freedoms of speech etc that he talks about are now completely restricted in the opposite way by political correctness and gender politics
@daisykitiibwa1211
@daisykitiibwa1211 Год назад
@@JN-wr9he It just goes to show that alot of what we believe in and pride ourselves on as humans is little more than social construct
@eriktruchinskas3747
@eriktruchinskas3747 6 лет назад
The english are still this backward but theyve swung in the opposite direction.
@MrRyan-wu4jx
@MrRyan-wu4jx 4 года назад
Erik Truchinskas so forward?
@JN-wr9he
@JN-wr9he Год назад
@@MrRyan-wu4jx no, too far to the other extreme, and not just the british
@thecannyshow8354
@thecannyshow8354 Год назад
Hey ! I'm English.. And you're right 😂
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