Blizzard SHUT down WoW 2.0 in Unreal engine 5 

This is basically entirely true. If you look back, Blizzard only decided to pursue creating their own vanilla servers because of the quite large and growing demand for them. Nostalrius was part of that wake up call, and part of the reason they issued a takedown for them was because Blizzard decided they wanted to provide their own vanilla servers.

Well xar has no takes of his own, he just has to say what he has to to stay afloat the wow content creator scene

Feels like Blizzard could giftwrap a shit and Xar would fkn freak out.... oh wait that was SOD....

If it wasnt for private services u wouldn't of even seen classic release in 2019. Blizzard is trash.

@@0ffd Remember, "You don't want that. You think you do, but you don't."

But its still not moral to play on private servers.... that it brings ideas to blizzard is another thing....

Is it moral to go eat at a restaurant that cooks with stolen ingredients, knowing full well the ingredients are stolen?

Also LIGHTSHOPE

@@harderdabhard92 If blizzard was any moral with their playerbase and/or workspace maybe people would not be inclined to play on private servers. People managing private servers are more in touch and care more about the game MANY TIMES FOR FREE, than paid blizzard employees do.

@@harderdabhard92 "still not moral to play on private servers" according to who, blizzard and their drones that eat up whatever turds blizz shits out? lol

yeah Xaryu been glazing blizz a lil too much

Xar is either bipolar or just loves to ass kiss the biggest thing in the moment. For example, retail was trash talked, xar immediately jumped on board to trash talk. Then hyped up SoD while it was being hyped. Now he's trash talking SoD because everyone else is. Hardcore was hyped for a while, xar was on board. Now HC is kinda small side thing and xar trash talks it and recommends blizz do this or that to it. Previously like Asmon he was all about UE5 wow when it was just a trailer that he watched asmon watch. Now all of a sudden he's against it, because big bad blizz said omfg we gonna lose money. He needs to pick a lane and stick with it, not ass kiss everyone and everything..

Just signed up to Turtle wow because of this, Lets make Azeroth Great Again!

Maybe instead of shutting them down learn from it and do the same yourselves.

I don't get why wow streamers need to do this big disclaimer before they talk about a private server. Like bro it's not illegal to talk about 😂

and shill

​@@LegabisHe is sponsored. He needs blizzard. He has relationships there. It's his money, his life. He is nothing without wow.

@@alexandrucatalindragan6842 He has nothing then. Retail is garbage, Blizzard are nothing compared to what they used to be.

It's their game. Lmfao. Imagine being this stupid.

He cant speak the truth

He is sponsored. He needs blizzard. He has relationships there. It's his money, his life. He is nothing without wow.

ya hes a glazer

Won’t somebody please think of the shareholders

Just because I hate the enemy doesn't mean they don't deserve the right to be treated fairly. It is their IP.

Maybe the share holders will throw him a bone because hes such a good lil simp for them

Streisand effect is real

Zerg - Meet Tyranids.

...until they suddenly shut down and hundreds of hours of work goes down the drain for thousands of people. I'd love to play on private servers more, I just can't commit my already limited time to a game which might just disappear overnight without warning. That isn't to the player's benefit at all.

people who make private servers are thieves, they are based in countries with no US jurisdiction, they leak your data, and they pull the plug eventually and you lose everything, maybe its time to just stop playing wow LMAO its like crack to you ppl.

Literally I've been having fun with phase 4 for the cpl weeks it lasts but they literally put no effort into it. Mobs thrown into a zone that was already there from incursions new dungeon. Items quickly buffed a lil n added n a event where mobs were jus quickly thrown in a little area like incursions.

​@@viciousweatherBro none of the servers in the past however long have been taken down. Nost decided to, gummy decided to but most just ignore that shit and run just fine for years

@@nathancasey7712 yep, until the day they don't anymore. I played on Nostalrius for years. Sucks, trust me, does not feel good.

always was

Has been for a long time.

He didn't understand what happened in the first place. Nobody acted against the server itself. And nobody said what they did was legal on paper because it's "transformative". The _trailer_ got taken down and the _trailer_ shouldn't have been because it's a work of transformative character in their eyes.

Welcome back to reality, you can't steal other people ips just because.

they didn't make a transformative change, it was the same IP reskined with unreal engine modern graphics, you don't want people going around slapping I transform it slightly and it's now my IP. they had the ability to make a great game, they should make a clone but not piggyback on existed IP. I know, I know, they are multi billions company, but these talented devs wasted their efforts on something the law wouldn't allow them to profit from and most likely force them to pay damage even though the damage isn't exist.

@@Krulfaryeah yeah say this to LOL and DOTA 😂

@@srmottumbo you don't know what "ip" means. Try googling it.

@@Krulfar You trying not to suck a multi billion dollars company dick challenge (impossible)

It's ten volunteer devs working in their spare time that's making this UE5 update to the game. They've been working on it for a year now. And it's launching next year. Ten people. Blizzard has around one hundred total working on SoD/Cata. The company is desperate to take this down. As it not only gives people what they've wanted for a LONG time (new engine). But it's being done with no budget by a handful of volunteers. This is making Blizzard look incompetent to the max.

@keldor8302 good. Maybe the board will see what the ceo and coo are doing to the company and get rid of them

@@keldor8302 Exactly lol

​@@keldor8302That's actually completely false. It's full time devs being paid full time. They have 7 Chinese servers at peaks of 15k each. They have a ridiculous amount of revenue coming in

@@keldor8302 SoD is fun. Retail is fun. Era is fun. Cata is fun. Blizzard is doing fine lol they have a self sufficient wow ecosystem now. You. Cannot. Steal. People's. Games. That's all there is to it. It is wrong and illegal to steal a whole game and release it for profit. Flat out. It really isnt that complicated.

Turtle isn't shutting down they just copyrighted the video

i guess you don’t know about the turtle wow donation shop lmao

Passion? how about they make a new game that isn't called WoW 2 lol

he has to say that stuff. hes one of blizzards loyal peons

He lives from them

you don't shit on your boss right in front of him. bet you don't shit on your manager in mcdonald's either.

@@mtchl8 he shits on blizzard all the time and gives criticism all the time. He had a ton of negatives about sof p4, he talks about how retail is played out and boring, he said plunderstorm should have been f2p and it was stupid they didnt do that, the list is endless

You can't take a shit where you eat, can you?

Cuz it’s his bread

Under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act they absolutely can do that. They can ask RU-vid to strike any video using their intellectual property. It's federal law.

@@ikuep Yeah that isn't being denied, but Turtle WoW can also try and push back against it via the argument that what they're doing is transformative enough to be considered sufficiently different. *Not saying they're trying to argue it's a different IP at all

​@@borga6566If streaming your gameplay or making a RU-vid video on wow is transformative enough then so is wow 2.0 in unreal engine

​@@nathancasey7712yeah, these commenters have never opened unreal engine to think it's just clicking a couple buttons to accomplish this

@@borga6566 But they're using the textures/assets of the game? The rest is lighting and added grass work/normal maps and shaders... Which obviously isn't nothing, but it also isn't like it's a complete re-imagining, and it's not just a cinematic teaser of what the game could look like, they're promoting a private server with that video, very obviously... It has nothing to do with a visual representation of what could be.

Your Support will go to the toilet cuz Blizzard owns that IP

@@omeddragon But it won’t because hide servers overseas where blizz can’t touch them too OP.

They have been since like wotlk if not before then tbh.

@@Yue_Jin The game was extremely healthy during wrath. The decline started at Cata.

wait no shot xaryu went to college right? I still remember being somewhat blown away when he admitted on stream that he had never heard the phrase 'correlation does not imply causation'... I suppose he does give off huge bro life vibes; perhaps he just drank his way through

True and real

Oh god, that’s what I’ve been thinking just yesterday!

I'm sorry, but do you realize how much money goes into WoW? Compare any WoW expansion to another MMORPG. I've played a lot of MMORPGs, and to have massive content updates as big as WoW every 2 years with even more to come over the course of those two years is unheard of for a lot of MMOs. I think the only level of scale that's even close is FFXIV/ESO. FFXIV netcode and servers and content updates by comparison are not even that amazing, and yet people eat that up, deal with all its microtransaction, sub cost, and expansion cost, and say it's the best MMORPG ever. Even with Dawntrails story being hit with a lot of negative reviews, people are still eating it up. With WoW right now you get MoP Remix, Dragonflight, in a couple of days prepatch for War Within, WoW Classic, WoW Classic Cata, WoW SoD, WoW Hardcore/SSF... All for one sub price. I'd argue that is more valuable and worth more money than FFXIV, especially when you consider how much content you get... More transmogs, mounts, pets, and content in general. ESO is probably the best value for a MMORPG though. You pay one massive price, comparable to that of a AAA deluxe/platnium edition, and you get every expansion + the newest to experience, with no sub cost. Next to that GW2 offers a very similar price structure. However in GW2 I know for a fact they have more p2w than WoW/FFXIV, where you can just buy gear pretty much, and I assume as much for ESO, even though I'm not sure. Path of Exile has the best pricing structure, with no p2w, unless you count storage as p2w, and just cosmetics, with free updates. However if you compare content updates in PoE to WoW, PoE basically requires you to replay the same game with small changes every season, with the hope of a potential big update that adds a new boss, but that's less common. While yes, you're right, that WoW could get away with no sub, the fact that they have a sub allows them to keep on top without having predatory monetization strategies like Diablo Immortal, gacha games, or korean MMOs like Lost Ark... Which are free, but you pay the price with your time wasted while others bypass the grind that was made purposefully frustrating and not fun, with daily login rewards/daily quest that are the same thing each time, that you repeat over and over to upgrade gear, just to have that gear break, making you want to end it.

@@readifdumbI don’t care what happens to the mega-corp

@@GrimDarkHalfOff You obviously didnt read what I said lol

Not the first time they get weird by mods and stuff xD remember the lawsuit against Dota 2 and Valve? wich thank god failed in court, cause they did not make the mod in WC3

@@jimmiekarlsson4458 Oh I completely forgot about that! That'd be probably one of the greatest examples of their stance on mods being strange. If Blizzard had worked with Dota and capitalized on it sooner, then they would've dominated the MOBA market. But I'm kind of glad that wasn't the case.

It's not the same as modding since it's offering the game for free. It's more akin to piracy. Personally I have no objections since Blizzard doesn't offer a good alternative themselves.

@@MrRavmoor It's a mixture of both worlds, although it's still a modded version. They've made multiple new dungeons and modifications to existing dungeons along with new races and new customizations for existing races.

@@jimmiekarlsson4458 can you explain how its weird to sue someone for making money on your game? That's like someone saying they can sell swim lessons out of the pool in your backyard and you're an asshole if you kick them out.

lol

The problem of turtle wow is shena

Free after you download a illegal torrent to play it. If you dont own wow. Which in case i bet a lot of people DONT!

@@Nasty_Riffs An illegal torrent? You don't even have to use the torrent and there's nothing illegal about a torrent.

@@FrankyPlaysGames downloading it is illegal.

@@Nasty_Riffs Lmfao where and how

And classic wow is damn near 20 years old

just because you like turtle wow doesn't make it legal

​@@wondejaxusDoesn't matter if it's legal or not. Owner is in Russia.

@@ryanglacier30 so you think they can do anything they like because they are from russia?

@@wondejaxus correct they don't have any foreign copyright laws. That's why turtle wow has 100k concurrent players

@@ryanglacier30 if you think they can't shut it down then you are delusional ;), they just chose not do, yet.

are you for real? its still wow ip

@@RengarLover123 Am I for real? jfc what you think I need you to tell me what somebodies IP is? Or that I care? IPs aren't globally enforced and when you make as many changes as Twow has specifically with things like Unreal, what's to strike? Blizzard didn't make the video, or make a version of WoW that runs in unreal. Showcasing a video of your own unique version of WoW isn't copyrightable, they can't bogart people making changes that are derivative of the original in a video format.

Because it's their IP you can't just take wow and port it to unreal then try to put it on mobile hell wow hasn't even went mobile yet. That would be like if I went to your house took your car and went and got flames and skulls painted on it and tried to pass it off as my own.

@@RengarLover123 did u watch the video or listen to it at all? he says exactly why

@@NotTheWheel So the IP has more to do with the idea, rather than how the game is coded or what engine it's on. The place where this begins to get muddy is when a modding community, like Turtle WoW, begin to incorporate their own unique ideas or additions to the game. This could be in the form of dungeon changes, map changes, raids, class design, etc. One can argue that it is an entirely different game, albeit still under the WoW IP. Having said that, Blizzard undeniably owns the Warcraft IP. Do I think Turtle WoW or other projects, like Ascension, should be taken down though? No, not at all. I don't think Blizzard has anything to worry about, because it's a very niche community, and it's offering different gameplay, so there is less overlap with what Blizzard themselves are providing. The case with with something like Nostalrius was different because Blizzard was actually planning on producing their own version of vanilla, and Nostalrius also just got a bit too big. I hope that, eventually, Blizzard changes their stances on modding communities for WoW, because in the long-term it will potentially be very important. Blizzard isn't necessarily immortal and could someday die down and have to shutter the WoW servers - so having modding communities build themselves over time is important. We see this happen with numerous other games all the time.

😂

It looks like shit

Lmfao

I still really love wc1 graphics :P

Nah the're cucked by their shareholders now to the point where imo they will never make a half decent version of the game again....

Because it's making millions of dollars with over 100k concurrent players. Their microtransactions are incredibly worthwhile so they're purchased by pretty much everyone

@ryanglacier30 Good

@@ryanglacier30 Millions of dollars...? Bro. We have 8k reddit users, around 20k players. Let's calm down.

@@rasmuserlandsson2204 you Have no idea stop fronting

It’s debatable

@@TheSabotaje No, it's not. Reverse-engineering in this way is completely legal, and it has been done many times. Examples include the wine project, Linux, and tons of game engines like OpenMW or OpenRCT2. Blizzard have in the past shut down these sorts of things, but that's not because they have a right to do so - it is mostly toothless intimidation, for example against projects like Warsmash. The only thing Blizzard can nail them on is the fact that they redistribute a modified version of the 1.12 client. They have to stop doing that. They need to say get your 1.12 client somewhere else - here's a patcher, here's the new data, and then they're in the clear.

They don't even need it, Blizz can't take their servers down.

Roll HC bro

Twow wasn't bad, quit for like a week and that turned into a month. Will end up on Epoch or duskhaven reforged when they release, would rather be ahead of the curve than way behind it tbh.

I just hope that you aren't forced by Blizzard to have this take, eitherway my message is useless

Why