Correct. The truth is they have no idea what the best BP levels are. The systolic used to be when I was young 100 over your age. For a 77 year old 177 would have been good.
All my life, I've been 125/75 (typically), and this was considered normal. Now, at 81, and still 125/75 (I jog 3 miles per day), my BP is considered elevated. Quite frankly, I think the pharmaceutical industry had a hand in convincing whoever maintains these standards to reduce them by 10 points so as to sell more statins.
I totally agree with you, I'm 55 and my b/p was 130/65 and my doctor put me on meds, I took it for 2 days and hated it!! I ended up buying a b/p electronic machine and my average b/p is 115/65... I believe I had white coat syndrome. I can't believe she didn't give me a chance to eat better or lose a lil weight, why, because of the money, I am in the process of looking for a different doctor because it seems like they are constantly trying to give me meds for things I do not have, she even gave me an inhaler for copd when I went to the e.r a month before {because I was scared my heart was beating funny} and was given several tests and was told I didn't have copd or anything wrong with my heart....so why? To make more money by giving us more meds to take!!!
Prior to 2017, it was ‘normal’ for an adult over 65 to have blood pressure of 150/80. Overnight, this norm was reduced to 120/80, thus creating millions of new patients. They did the same thing with cholesterol, once again, overnight, dropping the threshold between normal and high. Interestingly, despite all the BP and cholesterol meds now being prescribed, heart disease continues to be the #1 cause of death. Strange, that.
I haven't visited a doctor since 2010 (antibiotics, for a chest infection, when I was a smoker, and then I discovered that properly-prepared garlic was just as effective), and don't take any medications. I'm 70, my BP was 122/67 when I checked it the other day, and I have never had a cholesterol test. Those who fell for the tests when they were made available were drawn into the medical establishment's fear cycle, constantly worrying about their 'good' and 'bad' cholesterol levels, and easily persuaded to start taking statins. I take daily supplements, but the hero of them all, in my opinion, is the 600mg of magnesium I take. In her book 'The Magnesium Miracle', Dr Carolyn Dean explains why taking enough magnesium makes taking most pharmaceuticals unnecessary.
@@pjmcneillI believe you I couldn't believe what Celtic salt did to my BP☺️ It went from 135/86, to 123/79 Sometimes, it's lower It used to be 140/90 At 55 At 65, it's lower 124/79..
Your body knows what you need. Your blood pressure goes up for a reason. Plaque builds up in our arteries over time (mostly due to the poison disguised as food we’ve been eating) reducing the blood supply to our vital organs. Your body increases the blood pressure to ensure that your organs get enough blood to continue functioning properly. Studies have also shown that around 50% of stroke sufferers had “normal” blood pressure and showed no correlation between strokes and blood pressure.
My blood pressure has been higher than 140/90 for 40 years. Including when I competed in football and cycling. It's still high and 30 years ago my doctors said I would die. One day they will be right, I guess.
Ditto for me. I tried blood pressure med's but didn't like side effects. Guess I'll continue to have high blood pressure that may bother medical staff but not me, Its been relatively high 140/90 +- for most of my adult life. Am now in my 70's.
@@catfishkrohn840 I was in the army and at basic training, they were going to discharge me for having high blood pressure. The PTI Seargent went to the CO and said if you throw that guy out, you are throwing out the fastest guy over 3 km, over 5 km's, the guy who does more push-ups and chin-ups and sit-ups than anybody else here. We can't keep up with him. Whatever he has, he ain't sick. They let me stay.
@@catfishkrohn840 Catfish..My BP has been 155/90 for the last 35 years and I'm 76 now. Every time another doc would prescribe more than one BP med, my BP would go down to about 130/75. The result was I'd feel terrible and had symptoms of leg cramps, depression, low energy level and even feeling faint a few times. Once I was back to my normal one med, my BP returned to 155/90 with a 60 pulse beat and I was happy once again. I'd rather live 5 years feeling good than 10 years feeling bad with lower BP. We are all individuals. It's hard to standardize and put everybody into one category. For example, 98.6F is considered normal body Temp. My average all my life is 97.2F .
Same here. I took Hydrochlorothiazide for a while until BP was 120/70 then I became dehydrated and dizzy. I'm still very healthy @70 yrs BP is now 150/90.
I have been on BP meds for 40 yrs , I am 79 and an A personality, always moving at speed in everything I do! Up to Jan this year on 4 different meds! Blood pressure obviously higher than the norm set by Med world, or so I thought. I measure 3x pday and it is never the same as I keep record of all! This morning it was 150/80 , just now 180/90 after 2 hour nap! In Jan a cousin told me to try Cayenne pepper and Turmeric! Weaning off the chemicals my bp was reducing to even 130/70 at times! I also noticed that a leasurely walk or stroll , bp dropped by 30 /20 points! The Turmeric even healed my gut from auto immune and all related ailments! What more can I say guys???? Go natural as far as you can! I wont touch statins even if you pay me! My Cholesterol is between 6.7 and 7.3 all my life! Im as healthy as never before in my 79 years of life! I do take a 50 mg Vit B multivit daily for last 40 yrs and I highly recommend you to do this! Have a great life guys and girls, trust God for the rest!
Amazing how "the science" surrounding such a well understood basic biological function has changed so much in such a short period of time. Also, amazing how when "the science" is updated, the parameters of what's deemed good health always change in a way that sells more prescription medications. Also, are we really to believe that such "one size fits all" BP ranges are applicable to every single human being? We're all exactly the same? No healthy variations are to be found in humans, especially in vastly differing age ranges, sex and race? "The science" sure is good for big pharma and hospital CEOs.
Dr Suneel Dhand has a video on this site, saying much the same thing. Now there's a doctor who has got the measure of the medical and pharmaceutical industries.
I've lived with 180 systolic blood pressure for decades with no "crisis". I've always had higher than normal blood pressure since my teens, even though i was razor thin even then.
Same here. My doctors over the years have said I would croak if I didn't take BP meds. Now at 75 I have outlived 4 of them that I know of.(never took the meds)
I had a Major accident when I was 30, Both legs were crushed, I've had what is considered today as high blood pressure. But since the accident my body is not "normal" . I also was a scuba diver for over 35 yrs on a regular basis diving and free diving to 3 atmospheres 90 - 100 ft. Body will adapt to needing higher blood pressure. When doctors try giving me blood pressure meds I have a lot of reactions to them. Do better without BP meds. I looked up when Blood pressure was starting to be monitored. W.H.O . founded July 1946 - C.D.C. April 1948. Blood pressure list generated 1950 and @ 20 you should have between 105 - 140 and it goes up from there to 65 should be 115 -170. These all started changing 1950 When George Merck Quoted in time magazine "We try never to for get that Medicine is for the people. It's not for the profit." 6 years later the Pharm companies were showing $100 million Profits ( 1956) . Most doctors have become car salesmen when it comes to drugs. If you have side effects they give you another to cover it. I've gone the Homeopathic route. feel better and no side effects and still operate actively in the 120 to 160 range. Do your own research and live healthier.
I'm 61, and my blood pressure is averaging around 105/65 for a few years now. It was 145/100 or something like that, when I was 43 years, and 95 pounds heavier. Fasting blood sugar is typically in the high 70s (mg/dL), dropping into the 60s if I fast, and ketones get elevated. I've been eating mostly meat, eggs, and dairy fat (butter, cream). I ate mostly grains when I was obese and my blood pressure was high. I achieved metabolic health by ignoring the "experts" with their "eat less meat and fat and eat more veggies" nonsense.
Good on you ....I never went by the experts ....I have cream in my coffee [ I mean real cream full fat] I eat real butter ....lean meat is out ..marbled and fatty is in ....eggs ..eat plenty ....lamb fat or sheep fat is the healthiest out of the red meats ...has the same value as good quality Olive Oil Extra Virgin ..the only oil I buy , I use real dripping and pork fat ....I eat a lot of vegies because I love them ...smothered in butter of course ....at 72 I'm not the healthiest I could be ...but getting there again .....had I followed the 'experts ideas' I'd either be dead or half dead ......
@@brucelennon9224 Healthy fat is good for you as your body would much rather burn fat than useless carbs. My wife gave up sugar but still can't lose weight, I can't make her understand that refined carbs turn into sugar. I've heard if you want to be healthy only eat stuff made by God. Those heat and eat frozen burritos have list of junk a mile long. If your can't read the ingredients, don't eat it. Organic veggies and grass fed grass finished beef and chicken. I cook with Olive oil, Unrefined Unprocessed Coconut Oil and Avocado Oil. Avoid grains--they were healthy a hundred years ago but science has ruined them by removing the healthy stuff so they can sit on a shelf forever.
I am 68 and only have elevated blood pressure when I go to the doctors office or I am under a lot of stress. My doctors didn't believe me and were always trying to give me HBP meds. So they put me on a 30 study where I took my blood pressure every day for 30 days and the info was transmitted to the studies HQ. My average BP over that 30 days was 120/68. What I learned from this study was finding ways to manage my stress by recognizing when I am stressed out, doing breathing exercises, controlling my sodium intake and exercising. I am on a whole food/plant based diet which I believe has made a huge difference in my health.
Plant based will eventually wreck your health royally. Plants aren't that good for you. They are full of antinutients that block your body from utilizing various vitamins such as iodine, B1, etc. Plants have their defenses against predators too. Humans were meant to eat meat which is why you have canine teeth in your mouth. Vegetation is strictly to keep you alive if meat is unavailable at the moment. You won't thrive on vegetation and it will eventually catch up to you. That's why vegans end up with rotten teeth, hair loss, hair turning grey and then white, bulging eyes, loss of muscle mass, constant hunger and, eventually, strokes. Your heart needs animal fat in order to thrive so you may end up with heart damage. The brain is made up of 96 percent cholesterol. Alzheimer's appeared on the scene in the late 1970s after the government pushed the low animal fat, anti cholesterol diet. A diet, btw, that has never been tested on the human body. Alzheimer's is characterized by holes appearing in the cholesterol segment of the brain.
Blood pressure goes up and comes down depending on the time of the day or night and what activities you were doing before taking the reading. It's like the high tide and low tide at the beach. My doctor prescribed medication when I was 45 years. I rubbished his recommendation and never went on medication and now I am 68 still kicking strong. They don't tell you the truth they want to hook you for life to their gold mine. In order to stay healthy just do deep breathing and exhaling for about 3 minutes each time and about 5 times a day. When you have enough of oxygen in your blood stream you are going to live a blissful and healthy life.
I hear ya! A age 74 my Dr. said I need angioplasty because my BP was too high. I entered the hospital, they prepped me for the procedure, and woke up in my bed the next morning & told to go home. I asked if any stints were inserted & they said, "None, you didn't need any!!!" Then they presented me with a $600 co-pay! I couldn't even find a port of entry where they did any procedure! I'll never trust another dr. again that wants to give me statins! Today, I just turned 85, I walk 2 miles a day (weather permitting) & I maintain my own yard. No arthritis! NO ONE believes I'm 85 because I've never been sick and I'm healthy. I feel high BP is just a method for the medical business to make money!
Thomas you are absolutely right they treat you as a Cash Cow. I am 84 years old going to 85 come January 2 and a great grandfather. I am a practitioner of Intermittent Fasting (16:8 hr portfolio); Wim Hof aka the Iceman Guided Method Breathing every day; eating a LCHF Diet and Whey and Creatine Protein plus vitamins B Complex and other minerals every day. My BP is 119/67 and Heart Rate is 58 bpm though without fear my LDL cholesterol is high. I do not believe in taking any medication not even Panadol. I believe in daily exercise and what Hippocrates the Father of Modern Medicine said "Let Food Be Your Medicine." That's it. Period!
Im 65. Had bypass 3 years ago. Had a history of Hypertension. I quit drinking and lost some weight last month and quit taking the 3 B.P. meds I have been on for years. My B.P. is now roughly 115/75 for the last 4 weeks. It made me realize that once ur on meds these doctors will never suggest taking you off. Do ur own research ,some Drugs are a scam. Check out ur lifestyle first.
I'm 60 years old. I'm at the "ideal" blood pressure from this chart, but I just barely passed my DOT medical exam (thanks to your breathing techniques) by being an "average" guy. I'm really healthy. The high BP is hereditary. My mom was "high" her whole life. She outlived 3 of her doctors that predicted she would die soon of a heart attack. She passed just short of 84 years old.... of Alzheimer's.
Not being mean here. I just wonder what drugs was she on ? My mom in law was nuts about age 80. The docs had her on 13 different meds. We cut her back to about 6 and she became more alert. She is still with us at age 94, but now in nursing home.
I agree with the hereditary factor for BP. My Mom had 155/90 for the last 30 years of her life and died at age 81 while being prepared at the hospital for a pacemaker. The docs were concerned and tried to lower her BP which resulted in fainting incidents. When she was allowed to go back to 155/90 she was healthy once more. I followed her treatment closely and I have had the same average of 155/90 for the last 30 years. I too, allowed various docs to try to lower my BP and I was a total mess with symptoms of cramping, lightheaded, depression, and general weakness all over. Every time I go to the doc she wants to talk new BP meds. I said I'm tired of being a guinea pig Currently today, I am showing 153/91 with a 62 pulse. and I'm in my late 70s.
The reason I was told, by my cardiologist, for the changes after 2017 was the rise in diabetes and other diabetic related illnesses in the US due to poor diet and exercise. It was an attempt to protect unhealthy people from themselves. The problem is that there is no allowance for highly active healthy people. At 67 my regular BP is 135--140/75-80 with a HR of 54-60 and some doctors freak out and think that I should be on all sorts of meds. Thankfully my cardiologist says no! you don't need meds.
I think what is happening here and this is only my opinion, pharmaceutical companies would love for the world to have 120/80 BP for everyone which is impossible so the bottom line keep telling people that 120/80 is the goal for everyone even people 65 years and older. This brings in more business for the pharmaceutical companies so they put more people on medications. In 2022 the JNC8 committee independently published an evidence-based guideline in JAMA that raised the blood pressure treatment threshold in most older adults from 140/90 to 150/90 mm Hg. Nov 28, 2022. There reasoning was too many doctors were prescribing so many BP medications to the elderly to try to keep their BP at 120/80 and they were putting their patients health at risk. When the pharmaceutical companies heard about this and some doctors they jumped all over that report. I wonder why?
In 2010 my doctor prescribed so many medicine in anticipation that in future the heart attack can be avoided. I was admitted in the hospital and It was 6 type of medication I needed to take. I asked the doctor do i have all these diseases? The doctor was honest and said no but we think you might have because your parents had to it is just for precautions. I refused to take them saying that these will give me more side effect and I might end up with something new. I never liked junk food even in my tin age. Today in 2021 i am glad to say that what doctors fear that i will ended up high blood pressure. Diabetic etc but nothing happened to me. I am 67 now and quite healthy person. I am so glad that I refused to take high blood pressure and aspirin and other medicine.
Here’s something. 120/80. Is not the worldwide standard. In India it’s 140/90. I believe blood pressure is individualistic. For example. When my blood pressure is low I’m dizzy. If it’s higher than 120/80 I’m normal.
Yeah in the last few months I've been gradually cutting carbs. I may go carnivore or maybe low carb. I know a lot of my health issues were from grains and carbs in general. I'm having trouble holding my body weight which i don't like with this MAJOR carb reduction. I know most people want to lose weight, but i want to maintain my weight but lose fat at the same time. It's hard to not lose weight (for me) in a carb reduced diet lol. YMMV though
I have know many fit people who had heartaches. Fitness isn't health but health enables fitness. As Moseley said it needs a marathon to burn a donut. Carbs become sugar and if you weigh how much sugar that's hiding, it's shocking. If you wouldn't eat half a cup of sugar you shouldn't eat half a cup of rice.
3 years ago I weighed 115kg, BP 144/100, drank too much and didn't eat healthy. Changing all that was crucial. Now at 51yrs I'm 63kg, very healthy diet and moderate drinking. BP now 110/70 🙂
I love how it doesn't show a range for low blood pressure. How useful. So apparently if my blood pressure is 60/40 and I'm passing out, my blood pressure is normal, but if my blood pressure is 120/80 then I have stage 1 hypertension. They lowered the guidelines because big pharma paid them. I'd be skeptical of these charts.
I’m just a couple of months away from 65 years of age. Two years ago, my systolic blood pressure was creeping upward and generally in the high 140’s. Not wanting to take blood pressure meds, I cut carbs from my diet (aimed for less than 10 per day). The result was a weight loss of 60 pounds and my blood pressure dropped and today ranges from a low of 95/53 to a high of 110/ 57. My HgA1C dropped to 4.8 so my diabetes is reversed. My resting heart rate dropped from the 80s to the high 50s. I’m medication free and feel as well as I did 20 years ago. I never go hungry (sometimes overeat). My conclusion... my health is in my hands. It’s just a matter of deciding if processed foods, baked goods, chips, fruit, etc are more important than my health. I’ve also gained significant muscle mass without an exercise program.
During the time you had high blood glucose (diabetes) were you on medication? I am 56 years old and a diabetic type 2 and trying hard to reverse this disease by slowly cutting down on medication. Thanks in advance
@@cheeseongho5494 Do not cut down on your medication unless you are on an alternate regimen to get healthy. Check your A1C level as it is an important marker showing insulin insensitivity. If you can get your A1C close to 5, increase your HDL and lower your Triglycerides, you can then taper down your medication in consultation with your doctor. Just cutting meds without improving your health puts you at a higher risk of stroke or heart disease.
I'm an active 93, who is on medication of any kind, I still do my walks of a morning and mow the long heavy grass of a large yard,etc,. But when my BP gets too low down around 122/64, life becomes an effect, I operate extremely well between 140/75 to 150/75, but these numbers can alter up and down, even as far as 170/80. my lower number has always been on the lower side. But, the real point I would like to make is not so much about myself but the so called top end medical experts who continually recommends these lower readings. One don't have had to have gone to school to suspect they are more than well looked after by the pharmaceutical giants, who spend more on lobbying products than on research. It speaks for itself!!
My dad always believed in the age over 100 rule, he made it to 98 years old And like you he had bouts of blood pressure going down and feeling like a dumpling duck
I'm 71 years old, I suffered from Hypertension for over 15 years, in the last 18 months I lost 82 lbs. with the weight loss, my hypertension is also gone. I started taking a fish oil supplement about 2 months ago. Today I took my blood pressure and it was 120/70 with my pulse at 59. So I guess I'm doing Ok. I spent a lot of time trying to eliminate inflammation all over my body and 1 meal a day, with nothing stuffed in my mouth, no cheating and only a 6 hour eating window poo poo'd by most as being dangerous seems to be total BS. Good Luck to all those out there that have the drive and courage to take control of their health instead of letting a Doctor pack you full of prescription drugs that will only compound the problem.
@@judycrisenbery2982Thank the jab for that, if you took it. I'm taking 3600 mg, 1296mg of EPA and 864mg of DHA. My resting B/P is 125/67. I don't worry about death, it causes stress, you can't cheat death. Everyone dies sooner or later, so why let it stress you out?
Taken off a google search ...What are the new blood pressure guidelines for seniors 2022? The new guidelines change nothing if you're younger than 60. But if you're 60 or older, the target has moved up: Your goal is to keep your blood pressure at 150/90 or lower. If you have kidney disease or diabetes, your target used to be 130/80 or lower; now it's 140/90 or lower.
I'm 69 and my BP average is around 126/70 (I take my own with a calibrated meter) yet my doc tells me it's too high and prescribes me Ramipril, I said No thanks. I was in the hospital last year for 11 days with covid and they checked my stats at least four times a day, not once did they say my BP was high they didn't seem concerned at all. I had the same experience with statins, they hand them out like free sweeties to make money. GPs are controlled by the Pharm industries and if you question them they cut you off at the knees. Now If I have a genuine complaint it's hard to get past reception to see one. Prescription drugs is a racket for sure.
83 just got OFF meds for BP considered Hi At 145 over 68..Have New Young lady Dr..says At my age Anything Up to 145 normal...off meds a d averaging 127/60 - 133/68...+ Dietary change to Lotsa Fresh Greens,Beetroot (especially beneficial),boiledEggs, green tea and hibiscus tea..All about Meds these days...Was put on Metaformin for PreDiabetis..when that First came out...Only take synthroid for hypothyroid hashimotos..Still work or 3days a week...and volunteer one day a week..Stay involved with LiFE
Yes they are compromised, let them prescribe all the drugs they want, do your own research, do what you want and carefully dispose of their poisons if you don't need it.😂
A clean ketogenic diet is excellent for fixing so much in our bodies! Now at 55 years of age .... I’m 97 days into keto and all my numbers are shaping up! Weight from 208lbs down to 184 , blood sugar from 177 to 106 , BP from 168/95 down to 122/74 . My energy is up and I’m never starving . I practice the 18/6 intermittent fasting and it’s really working great for me ! Processed foods are killers! All natural food is key 🤩
I felt like I was about to die on keto, I had too add back a little bit of whole grains I guess it works different with each person...I still have a pretty good diet tho.. protein, nuts, veggies, small portions of fruit and carbs and Greek yogurt.....I am a recovering drug addict maybe I created these problems with my years of partying and drugs I remember a few doctors told me even when I got off cocaine it could cause heart problems my father also died of hypertension...man I'm trying not to freak out but it's scary
@@kendraheard8240 taking care of yourself is job #1 ! Getting your full blood work is key to knowing what's going on in your body. For me it was reversing fatty liver and stopping my insulin resistance. Keto served well in this area . It sure isn't for everyone but does have an incredible effect on reducing fat in the organs and body , intermittent fasting is where the real work plays out in removing junk from cells during states of autophagy . Keto gives you what you need in turning fat into keytones to burn for energy slowing for long periods of time between meals so you body can do the work needed in repairs. I have been on a ketogenic diet for over 3 years . Education is key! I'd read everything I can find on the subject and do the blood work so you can see where you are deficient and adjust accordingly. Stay Strong! GOD be with You🙏
In 2017 big pharmacy lost the money drug- opioids, suprise suprise, shortly thereafter, they doubled down on BP meds. Was this new BP standard based on patient health or simply profit?
Michael Ver........Profit, always profit. I'm over 65 with good BP and good cholesterol readings. But my cardiologist wanted me on statins because "It might prevent a future heart attack in 20 years". Really? Are you for real? What kick backs are these MD's getting from big pharma for prescribing this crap?
@@johnmorgan692 .....Here's a link to a 3 1/2 min video by a doctor about statins. They're being banned in Europe for a reason. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Db9rkEzKeJE.html
Those companies ,of course, just want the business and they encourage the doctors like mine to hand out pills like candy. Unfortunately, most doctors do not know any better because they have taken very few courses on drugs and they rely on the companies to tell them what is supposedly good. Look at the medicine bottle and the info that goes along with it. All drugs have side effects some of them serious. I stopped taking most medications because they stated: can cause cancer, kidney malfunction, etc. Pleas read the info first and then decide. You are crazy to take meds that you don't really need.
I believe that blood pressure is individualistic. I do not think there’s a set number. Because in other countries normal blood pressure is 140/90. In America it’s 120/80. Because they want to sell more drugs. I know for me. When my blood pressure is low. I cannot function. But when it’s over 120/80, I am fine. I don’t think high blood pressure is the killer they say it is. Then again with the blood pressure meds I’m on. My pressure is always higher than 120/80. I’m on 3 different meds.
I bet you have circulation problems in your lower legs too, and hair loss... I almost lost my legs. I wised up and detoxed off of the BP meds that were causing the venous stasis. Now my ankles are just a little pink, instead of purple. Doctors will insist you stay on those poison polls, even if it costs you a leg or two. After all - it's not THEIR LEGS in danger of amputation.
Please, your risk of stroke, kidney damage, heart attack, dementia all go up with increasing BP. Drug companies are not playing with you you are playing with your life.
True, that motive is there, but that does not mean that pressure shouldn't be lower for most people these days. Better done by diet, though, which gives no pharma profit. Frequently eating foods that are high in *BOTH* fat and carbohydrates, and stretched across one's waking hours is the main driver of high blood pressure, as is eating fructose when your liver's glycogen stores are already filled (like a sweet desert after eating lots of starch). These are two major drivers of metabolic syndrome, of which high blood pressure is just a part.
It would be much easier to believe these guidelines if there was not a lot of money involved lowering the thresh-holds and the experts recommending these guidelines were really financially independent.
Right now , I'm in my 70's, my pressure is 168 over 85 and not going to a dr to prescribe pills but I will try cutting down on carbs abit and diet changes. I feel this 120 new guideline puts people into a pill category , with its many side effects including dizziness, hip fractures etc. I'm taking the 140 guideline, and will try to get my bp close to it.
The American Association of Retired People commissioned a recent study and the question was - at what blood pressure, all things considered, should be people OVER 60 need to start BP meds?. A university professor was hired - he did a huge meta-analysis -- and then the results were presented to a 17 member panel for review. The answer - when a person over 60 has a BP above the range of 150/90, the person would benefit from taking BP meds, all things considered. Of the 17 members on the panel, 12 supported that conclusion and 5 did not. Why I found this particularly interesting is, Dr. Sanjay Gupta of York Cardiology was asked the same question by one of his subscribers a few years back - he came back after doing his research and the numbers he had - 150/90 - the same conclusion. This 120/80 box that the medical community tries to fit everyone in, is just NOT supported by the real data - but the pharmaceutical companies love it. I'm 68 - mine averages about 134/75 ... and I am perfectly happy with that number.
@@trentriver. BP is funny , yesterday , when I was sick with a stomach thing , I had to call medic as I had dizziness. My bp was 190 over 88. Today, I'm much better and it was 130 / 80 , no meds thatnk you .. thanks for your reply.
I agree with you doctor.. high blood pressure.. means but eating, no exercise.. and a lot of stress... If one control this .. high blood pressure will disappear! I learnt that the hard way! I went for a check to my specialist doctor for my thyroid.. and she said .. how are you feeling ? Good ? Right now you have 180/80!!! Don't you feel anything? Nothing!! The following days went higher .. hit 200!! Because not having the strength to do anything was common to me!! Everyone.. be aware!!! Everything not normal means something else is going on!! Thank you doctor for the video!! Greetings from Greece 🇬🇷!
My daughter-in-law's BP is 137/87 She weighs 110 lbs soaking wet She is having headaches and nose bleeds. I told her to make an appointment with her Dr.
I'm 78 years old, male 5'8" 168lb and take no medications other than Warfarin, eat a "clean" diet with no processed food or grains, and an hour of walking daily, and my BP averages 100/70. Lifestyle and diet are very powerful. Comment?
Doctors, no quacks with a medical degree. Drinking water will lower blood pressure from 160 to 130s because most people do not stay properly hydrated. Exercise also does a remarkable job of lowering blood pressure but then does blood pressure really mean anything?
NotALot...unless it goes Really High & Stays there...then..yes.it can kill ya..but a few Lifestyle Changes will Fix that without any drugs....the drugs will kill you as surely as the constant high will...
@@NuLiForm If it goes really high then there is serious medical issues as the body is intelligent and will raise blood pressure to compensate for problems. to lower the blood pressure artificially will do more harm than good. And it wasn't the blood pressure that killed them.
My doc has the nurse tske my vitals. I told her that I just came from an extremely stressful episode on my way to the appointment. My BP was 175/110 , I had the nurse take it again after I felt better and it was 135/75. My doctor put me on meds because she wants my BP to be 120/80 or less. I took the meds for 3 days and passed out on the 3rd day at a coffee shop with a friend. Was taken to the ER, my BP Iwas waking up heard that it was 66/50 at another time in the ambulance I heard it had gone up just 10 point. They ruched me to the closest hospital that was only 4 blocks away. I stop taking the meds that day and asked for a cardiologist full evaluation. My 2nd appointment is in 2 weeks. To get the results.
Wow I'm so so sorry this happened! I'm 23 and blood pressure is high when I first sit down but after a few minutes it goes down to elevated. Doctor tried putting me on meds and I refused. She told me that she was surprised I wasn't dropped dead with how "high" my BP was. Why do doctors like to freak people out so badly? I had such bad anxiety for a while because of it and I'm sure that didn't help. How are you doing now? Updates?
WOW! So many asking for an update. Well I'm almost 70 years old. I like to read medical studies so in one the jam report from a European country, had that the older you are, having a BP of 140 to 150 if you are older is not bad. Then I found another study that showed people that took BP lowering meds had more heart incidents than those that took nothing. Well my cardiologist had me wearing a device for 2 weeks. It did not detect anything so bad, that he felt that I needed ❤ medication. But he said it was up to my PC doctor. I thought that was very strange. So I told my doctor that I will not take any medicine. I follow a mostly vegeterian diet with only cold water fish, salmon, sardines and some tuna. I only use olive oil & vinegar as a dressing on my salads. My diet is closer to a Mediterranean diet. The cardiologist and PCD said my diet was a hearth healthy diet. So I just take my B P at home and its always under 145/ 90 most of the time it has been 135/85 and I feel good. I'm also walking more. I will not take any medication to lower my BP or to lower cholesterol. I found that my memory is getting better. I read that good cholesterol is brain food. Well I'm no doctor or anything close I choose all that I do for myself. Its working for me. I did a lot of research and read a lot of papers. Based on that information I decided for my self whst I do now. Please do your own research and don't do what I do, it may not help you. I forgot I also laugh more 😅 laughter is the best medicine.
Try Nitric Oxide supplements! I am 70 years old and my systolic number was creeping into the 130's (diastolic never above 80). When I began Nitric Oxide supplementation a year ago, my usual BP is now 110/72 (I take it a few times a week as I have a strong family history). Yes, I'm healthy and, yes, I eat well, and, yes, I exercise. But I did ALL of that before NO!
That is great pressure for your age, I'm 63 and also am very healthy I take my natural nitric oxide from arugola (rocket greens) my relaxing blood pressure is 105/62 and sometimes even lower, I also eat avocados, wild salmon, eggs and olive oil and regular exercise.
Good video Doc, straight up information without the subterfuge trying to sell something . 126/78 turning 60 this year, a friend that was a doctor told me years ago drop salt add pepper. He said there were studies saying that good old freshly ground black pepper was goo for the BP as well as the liver, and my current cholesterol is 160. keep moving and don’t eat so much junk seems to be working.
Mine is the same and I am 68 but I still have salt in all my meals but I do excercise everyday and walk for 45 minutes but eat loads of veggies and fruit.
I knew it! I am over 65 and my blood pressure is 134/79... and I feel fine. I keep getting told that I need statin drugs because my blood pressure is too high... but statins give me irregular heart beats... so I will not take them. I heard elsewhere the goal posts were moved! So this just confirms what I already felt was true. Thanks, for this video!
May I add something? How you measure blood pressure is very important. Buy yourself a home digital machine from the pharmacy. Sit upright in a comfy chair for a solid five minutes, with your feet on the floor, not crossed. No music, no radio, no TV. Just be quiet. Don't do this if you've eaten in the last hour or so. Keep notes on your blood pressure and pulse, and check once in a while. Don't obsess about it. But do pay attention if you're over 120/70. If only the second number is high, you have isolated diastolic hypertension, and the latest research shows that it does not lead to stroke or heart attack. If the first, or both numbers are high, you must do something about it: start eating properly (no processed foods) and get some serious, heart-pumping exercise at least a couple of times a week. Do I need to remind you to stop smoking? Most people CAN get those numbers down without pharmaceuticals.
This is just one example of the EU approach on BP What is normal blood pressure in France? The French guideline recommends that the target blood pressure remains at < 140/90 mmHg, with < 150 mmHg for patients aged > 80 years. Systolic blood pressure between 130 and 139 mmHg and diastolic blood pressure < 90 mmHg are recommended for diabetic patients and those with chronic kidney disease.
The European guidelines say optimal blood pressure is below 120/80 mm Hg; normal blood pressure is 120-129 mm Hg systolic and 80-84 mm Hg diastolic; and “high normal” is 130-139 mm Hg systolic and 85-89 mm Hg diastolic.
So 25 years ago, below 160/90 was not really a problem. Now over 120/80 is a problem. Get everyone on those meds as soon as possible, drug company profits are at stake! Ditto for cholesteral, used to be 400, then 300, then 200, then 150. The medical 'profession' is full of sh...
There's more: A Nephrologist that was giving a report on the Web about BP stated that as you age, your BP goes up because your arteries are getting stiffer and that for an 85 yr old (like me) BP is just fine with 150/70; a 50-60 yr old should have BP of around 135/60 to 140/60. As you age, your arteries naturally get stiffer whether you have cholesterol buildup or not & the stiffer they are, the higher the BP. He also felt BP should never be below 120/60. So... who are we to believe?
High blood pressure causes extra pressure on your arteries, so why do doctors immediately blame hbp on your heart when it's the hbp that causes the heart to react? Typical of conventional doctors not getting to the root cause and immediately zero in on heart issues when there is most likely nothing wrong with your heart. And who sets the standards, where do these so called normal numbers come from?
Guidelline is 130/80 . . . Doc, you may have misspoken. At 7:53 the onscreen text says 130/80 as you read it, but moments later at 8:39 you quote that as 120/80. Good video and thanks for the info. I'm 70, overweight and with BPs in the 130s/80s was put on a THIRD BP med that made me so dizzy after standing up, i had to discontinue it. I'm not sure numbers tell the whole story
My morning BP was 117/63. I am almost 80 years old, no meds, just following the Dr. Linus Pauling protoocol, vitamin C, l-lysine and l-proline and have been for 20 years. Seems to be working.
The blood pressure levels published by the A.M.A are financially motivated by big pharmaceutical company funding, the levels that predate those and that are still used today by many doctors is 140/90. This source does not receive funding from the pharmaceutical companies, or very little if they do.
Thank you so much. This was a wonderful presentation. I made notes on everything. Im 71, in pretty good health and ive been told i look much younger but ive been on BP meds since my 30s. I eat very healthy and dont drink and am quite active. However, there can always be improvements.
So, 120/80 should be the criterion for a healthy adult at all ages, per AHA. Having been taught that blood pressure typically rises with age for the healthy and the not so healthy, I would second the commentators who smell a rat.
If you don't have an medical condition causing high blood pressure then the problem is stress, the stress you know about, and the stress you don't know about, the doctors know this but it's treat the symptoms not to cause, there's no money in fixing people, most people in the United States are on stress level factor 10+!, Some people can get quite relax going to the doctor and a lot of us would rather lose a toenail then go to the doctor... If high blood pressure is what the doctor says it's caused by aging arteries becoming hardened, then how is it that a blood pressure medicine can relax the arterys and your body cannot? get healthy and don't worry about anything, shits gonna happen so deal with it then...
On a 24 hour monitor my blood pressure was 132/62 my doctor decided I should be on blood pressure medicine. He prescribed Avapro that brought my blood pressure to 195/105. I complain to the doctor and he told me keep taking it, or you’re gonna die, I told him to go FM self through the junk out and found another doctor. I think the pharmaceutical companies are playing games and making a fortune off of us.
The American academy of family physicians has looked at all the data and they maintain that 140 over 90 is normal blood pressure for any age. Dr Ken Berry who is a member of that association says The American heart association gets a lot of their funding from Big pharma who has a big interest in selling blood pressure medicine.
I'm soon to be 64. My last BP reading was 110/70. My doctor said I must have gotten the best genes from my parents and that he has patients in their 20s who are not in half my shape.
Actually BP has little to do with how healthy you are unless you are way overweight. Everyone has their own BP and the standard Bp of 120/80 means very little. It is only when the BP is very low or very high over 17o/100 that you should be concerned. This is taken from reliable health insurance companies.
29(almost 30), female. Before I started hitting the gym regularly, my blood pressure was generally 130-140/80-95ish. Heart rate was always in the high 90-100s. After 8 months of attending the gym, it was 105/67. Resting heart rate was 69 BPM.
This chart was created by pharmaceutical companies. Doctors follow that chart because they are paid handsome money by pharmaceutical companies. More prescribing = more commission.
My Physician was concerned about my in office blood pressure, so he had me pick up an at home monitor and track pressure in the morning and evening. The two week average was significantly below the office results, but still a bit high. Enter the dog. I adopted a new best friend, who was overweight and went low carbohydrate. We began walking 3 to 6 miles a day, nearly every day. three weeks later, my average weekly pressure is 127/84. My advice on lowering pressure is get a dog, blood pressure monitor, reduce carbs and walk.
Did you reduce salt intake?... someone told me to do this now I'm nervous because not sure if I have enough sodium...and my doctor is booked... sucks paying all this money for health insurance and can't see my doctor
My grandfather had hbp all his life. going up to 190/120- Even when he was young his bp was only 20 points lower for the Systic. His doctor never gave him pills and grandpa died at 96 in a car accident. Also he drank like a fish and chewed tobakee like a horse
@@thesergio9444wow lol isn't that something listening to everyone's stories is bringing me a sense of peace and calmness....but also nervous because my father died of hypertension but shoot it may have been his med that killed him...man idk what to think
Why on earth should my arteries get stiffer as I age? Based on my experience, my skin gets thinner and saggier as I get older. My midriff gets flabbier and expands, not harder and tighter. Other organs fail to stiffen too. Overall, my speed in all directions decreases, and movement becomes more restrictive, due to joints and muscles becoming painful with exercise. Arteries are involuntary (smooth) muscular organs, they have a pulse, are stimulated by the nervous system, and keep working as long as I live, unlike the veins that lose their elasticity and allow fluids to pool in my lower limbs due to gravity if I do not keep moving. Therefore my circulatory system is not compromised by stiff arteries but by gravity causing my weakening veins not to return as much blood back to the heart as they once did, even passing the burden onto the lymph vessels, if fluid infiltrates my lower extremities, and I need to rest in a horizontal position to restore the fluid equilibrium, my heart can relax and not work so hard.
A paper published in 2000 in The Lancet by Dr. Sydney Port and his statistician colleagues from UCLA focused specifically on whether or not there was indeed a correlation between rising systolic blood pressure numbers and adverse cardiac events. Short answer: there isn't, until pressure reaches the 70th percentile for a person's age and sex. There is no increased risk for adverse events for anyone until blood pressure numbers reach the 70th, and probably the 80th percentile for a person's age and sex. There is no increased risk for adverse events for any numbers lower than a threshold at 70%. Risk was independent of systolic blood pressure for all pressures lower than 70%. In fact, they found that there is no increased risk until a person reaches the 80th percentile for their age and sex. After 80%, risk increases sharply. The reason for this is the way data was collected and interpreted from the Framingham Heart Study, which has been the gospel blood pressure numbers taught to thousands of physicians ever since and which does not stand up to statistical analysis. It's probably a coincidence that other interpretations of the Framingham Study just happen to include millions of people who have been labeled hypertensive based upon the Framingham model, but who, in fact, face no greater risk from higher pressures. It's a difficult read, but I urge anyone concerned about their blood pressure to read the article. Check it out online... "Systolic Blood Pressure And Mortality" by Sydney Port and colleagues.
So true often the absolute risk benefit is also lower than the absolute adverse events rate which can be quite serious in the elderly (such as increased rate of falls)
My blood pressure was measured by the machine as 150/87, asked them to check it manually and it was 121/70. This has happened numerous times, I'm very active, 62 years old. So when they freak I ask them to take a manual measurement.
My doctor uses the same metric for blood pressure, glucose, cholesterol, A1C, heart rate, and body weight for all adult age groups. If anything is out of line, be prescribes medication.
I am 61 year old.For the past one month I have been suffering bouts of dizziness.I did a blood pressure check,I had 116,118,115,115/66,63,65,62 These readings were taken after the dizziness had gone .I am an active old dude.I cycle,play badminton,futsal,football and do gardening.Could you please advise on what is wrong with my health.Am I actually suffering from high blood pressure or just a vertigo? When I was in mild dizziness,I made the test and the reading was 129/75.Thanks a million
I'm amazed at the lack of significant correlation between moderately elevated blood pressure 140-150 (systolic) and cardio issues. So why the emphasis on really low pressures (135 and lower) when they make very little difference. I guess the emphasis does sell more treatment and doctor visits.
@@nicolaspadron3167 My doctor does not get the least bit concerned about blood pressure until it hits 160-170 and even then he says there is very little difference in actual cadrio incidents between those who have blood pressures 120/80 and lower and those who have pressures over 160. That's the difference between actual practice and scientific studies. Yes, I'm sure the scientific studies show some correlation its just that its not nearly as significant as its portrayed, and many practicing doctors verify this.
I’m 24, when I went to doctors my blood pressure was 150/90 It was 5-6 years since I’ve been to the doctors. I was very anxious and nervous so I think that may have to do with it? He immediately put me on blood pressure medicine but I decided not to take it. He didn’t say any other alternatives, no changing diet, walking, running… just went straight to the pills. Now it’s been a while and I run/walk, eat better. My blood pressure is 120/83. Still a few points off I guess but I did it all by running and watching what I ate. Still a
If we all follow the pharmaceutical industry $$$$$$guidelines we would have so low blood pressure that we would be queueing up for treatment for falls.
The problem with all of this information (and I'm not blaming this doctor) is that pharmaceutical companies have a vested interest in you taking their product. That makes it very difficult to know what to do. I do know that I get anxious when I go to the doctor, because of this I now will take my own blood pressure a few times a day for the three days before I go to the doctor and give them those numbers, the difference can be as much as 40 points. You can't blame the doctor for being concerned! Also, my experience at the doctor's office is that they do a horrible job of taking blood pressure - your arm isn't in the proper position, feet are dangling, your sitting on a table instead of on a chair and you shouldn't be talking, not to mention you probably just spent an hour in the waiting room getting even more anxious. Best advice, check it yourself in different situations using proper technique.
My brother is in his 70's and his BP is 120/80 without medication. According to these charts he should be 18. 🙂 Oh and my wife is in her 60's and hers is 103/69.
I’m 60…was always at a 140/90…..after cutting carbs, sugars, processed, sodas, coffee…..I’m a now at 115/75, Consistently…..Nutrition and Exercise is KEY! I take by BP twice a day too…
Most of my life, I have had fairly normal to slightly low blood pressure. But the older I get the more it creeps up. It is kind of like you are saying. My diet has mostly sucked! Soda, burgers & fries, chips, chocolate bars chili dogs etc. . . I have stayed on an average of about 20 to 30 pound over weight for most of my adult life. But now that I am older it is really creeping up on me. I am about 40 pounds over weight now. It is harder to loose. Life catches up to you so quickly. My Dad and Grandmother both died with kidney failure, it was a huge wake up call for me.
I have personal experience of doctors being quacks with medical knowledge. I lost a job because I did a Chester step test and they failed me on it because I went above what they considered my safe maximum heart rate of 220 minus my age, this was at 59 yo and thus it was 161 bpm minus another 5 (156 ) as a factor of safety. I have been a life long aerobic cycling athlete and my max bpm is still 187 by physical testing and my aerobic threshold is still 172 bpm, which I can maintain for a few hours constantly. None of this mattered to them and they used their own ignorance to fail me. Last season I was first over 50, first over 60 and third scratch of any age in my local cycling club time trial series.
Many people don't know that the people who take your BP can be wrong. If your arm is too high over your heart, your BP will be low... too far down, it will be high. The nurse at my doctor's office doesn't know this either... she constantly puts me in the chair and pulls my arm up... result... very low BP. Thank god I have a machine at home.
Im 56 and I have major health problems. I don't take no meds at all. I can't do no kind of labor work at all. All meds do is cover up the symptoms. Our bodies wasn't made to take all these meds. Meds does more harm than good. I gave God a ultimatum. Either heal me or call me home. My brother died of a massive heart attack at age 36. He told dad that he was tired of these world and said he was ready to go home. I'm like my brother tired of these world ready to go.