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I hate this "uwu cinnamon roll" so much. He is just a ripoff of Turtle.
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@AxesteelMusic
@AxesteelMusic 2 года назад
Blue is just a sweet and anxious personality who thinks about others above himself. I think you don’t understand him, because you haven’t met anyone like him. But I actually relate to him quite a bit and find his pacifistic beliefs/actions rather inspiring considering what kind of life he has to live. He likes HiveWings because he is extremely uneducated about their dictation over his tribe, especially considering that he’s been brainwashed since the day he was born. He believed that HiveWings were his tribes protectors which is a classic tool of manipulation, I like your videos, but I disagree completely. You’re not used to his type of character, sometimes people and in this case; dragons, just aren’t as angry as others.
@StoryTeller796
@StoryTeller796 2 года назад
Same.
@duosolve6990
@duosolve6990 2 года назад
Agreed, sorry 4rchane
@LiceAB
@LiceAB 2 года назад
Very true. This video made me kind of angry lol
@robin_ch
@robin_ch 2 года назад
yeah, i relate to blue a lot and i love his character a lot, he's so sweet and caring its almost inspirational
@veghoar
@veghoar 2 года назад
I agree, sorry
@catss87
@catss87 2 года назад
I love all these WoF Analysis's and you make a point but I have to disagree. The way Tui had Snowfall and Blue see through other dragon's perspectives was actually quite smart, as, for Snowfall she learns what the Panatlan dragons have gone through while also showing the readers all the different characters and scenes we wouldn't have got a chance to see if it wasn't for Snowfall. Tui gets a bunch of other dragon's perspectives into one book which is clever and saves her from having to do it one book at a time. Blue's character is actually quite interesting to me, most protagonist so far has all seem to be rebellious and not meek at all. They all fought from the start. But Blue's personality gives a change, he isn't cliche and doesn't fight back but instead goes along with everything the HiveWing's says and it makes sense. The HiveWing's manipulated the SilkWing's into believing that they were the SilkWing's rightful ruler by the saying of Clearsight and it would be easily believable. Also- 'Like Warriors where charcter's are all like blank pieces of paper like Lionblaze' LOL
@fallenflame1940
@fallenflame1940 2 года назад
I liked lionblaze when he was playing the tunnel with heatherpaw (i think her name is) as an apprentice, then he just became a one dimensional character, so much more could have been done with him and his power. Sorry i just wanted to rant about lion blaze lol
@StoryTeller796
@StoryTeller796 2 года назад
And anyway, Blue kind of reminded me of me anyway, so I liked him.
@BlueTheSilkwing
@BlueTheSilkwing 11 месяцев назад
thanks
@LunaTheFlamesilk
@LunaTheFlamesilk 3 месяца назад
​@@BlueTheSilkwinghey bro
@BlueTheSilkwing
@BlueTheSilkwing 3 месяца назад
@@LunaTheFlamesilk yo
@astronomydraws
@astronomydraws 2 года назад
I liked blue, though you made good points, I have to love him. He was just an anxious boy and dindnt really do much, and the way he answers problems, other than the break down part, is like me. He reminds me of my first read through, and I like that.
@woffle6411
@woffle6411 2 года назад
I like Blue too. In my opinion he is a good protagonist. I also feel that he did make a few choices, just not a lot. When he took out the book of Clearsight, he did decide to do it, by taking out of the case. And getting Swordtail out too. He did make a few decisions, just not a lot. And I can see that 1. He is caring 2. He is loyal to the HiveWings because he was already happy with a life of protection as long as his tribe worked for them 3. He wants to know how things work in his home, to get a better understanding of life. Again, this is my opinion. Please don’t hate me for liking Blue
@astronomydraws
@astronomydraws 2 года назад
Agreed
@nathanaelperry5737
@nathanaelperry5737 2 года назад
@@woffle6411 I agree!!! :)
@yourwitchydadlan4805
@yourwitchydadlan4805 2 года назад
Blue was very complex to say the least. I myself wouldn't say he's a good one because of the fact that he felt either extremely forced to keep the plot going. I didn't enjoy him being protagonist, mainly because of the reason of how he faces the same problems similar to Moonwatcher. I just don't rather enjoy any characters who don't exactly do much because I personally think he was rushed character wise. Throughout the book I sort of wished he could think for himself. I just didn't become fond of him for those specific reasons.
@BlueTheSilkwing
@BlueTheSilkwing 11 месяцев назад
😊😊
@factoringpractice
@factoringpractice 2 года назад
Personally, the main difference between turtle and blue is that blue wants to do good, but turtle doesn't want to. They both don't do the thing most of the times, but for different reasons.
@dragonforge84
@dragonforge84 2 года назад
“He makes no attempt by himself to escape the flame silk cavern” He looked around the entire place and found the hole that he escaped from?
@dragonforge84
@dragonforge84 2 года назад
Note: the other did open it so Blue and Luna could get though, but my point was that he was thinking about it and actively trying to find a way to escape.
@silverstar1247
@silverstar1247 Год назад
Sundew and cricket are the reason he escaped from that cave, if sundew wasn’t there to help he would have been trapped there forever
@dragonforge84
@dragonforge84 Год назад
@@silverstar1247 True, but he still did at least attempt to find a way out on his own
@makoshark40
@makoshark40 9 месяцев назад
@@silverstar1247 he coulda have used flame silk to get out but then he also wouldnt have known his way trough the cave and they would have been able to follow him into the cave since no plant blocked the path but all and all he would have Definity escaped with him and his sister if he had 2 it would have just taken him quite a bit longer
@osheridan
@osheridan 4 месяца назад
​@@makoshark40 He wasn't able to hold or produce flamesilk, because he hadn't undergone Metamorphosis yet
@ApricityGlow
@ApricityGlow 2 года назад
Blue makes my heart melt. I just want to cuddle him. I can relate to him easily feeling sorry for others. 7:07 That describes Blue's father, whom Blue resolved not to be like, from what I can remember.
@BlueTheSilkwing
@BlueTheSilkwing 11 месяцев назад
...
@-Radio-Random-
@-Radio-Random- 2 года назад
I completely agree, but I don’t think anyone else could have started the book other than Blue. It’s mainly because of how the books went, and how he was built in this series, well, until he got mind controlled.
@jaz8565
@jaz8565 2 года назад
Maybe Swordtail would be a better protagonist?
@-Radio-Random-
@-Radio-Random- 2 года назад
@@jaz8565 uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, in my opinion no, but maybe
@BlueTheSilkwing
@BlueTheSilkwing 11 месяцев назад
Ahem…
@-Radio-Random-
@-Radio-Random- 11 месяцев назад
@@BlueTheSilkwing you saw nothin you giant butterfly gremlin
@chillin_pipsqueak
@chillin_pipsqueak 2 года назад
Blue does actually try to escape the flamesilk cavern. He first looks for a way out and finds one, he then tries to take Admiral with him and Luna and makes a point. He is also quite thoughtful if you haven't noticed. At the end of book 13, he makes a point that he doesn't want people to steal his flamesilk and they agree. I strongly disagree with your analysis of this wonderful character.
@BlueTheSilkwing
@BlueTheSilkwing 11 месяцев назад
Yes, I do try to escape. And I succeed
@dragonmaster9299
@dragonmaster9299 2 года назад
With your argument about the hive mind, this doesn’t happen often until Luna’s metamorphosis. Cricket has stated this and it isn’t an everyday occurrence. It isn’t “Thousands of dragons leaving the city everyday” I disagree with other points of your argument but I wanted to point this one out
@toedjosh4468
@toedjosh4468 2 года назад
I love blue, but I love him mostly because of the things that makes him stand out, he puts himself into others shoes, he wonders what they’re thinking, I’ve always thought that it’s not very accurate because he wouldn’t be able to see the bad things but then I remembered moon, she saw good in everyone stating that no one is evil, she’s a mind reader, I think that maybe Blue is the same way, (just without actually reading people’s mind)
@BlueTheSilkwing
@BlueTheSilkwing 11 месяцев назад
Thank you❤
@interstellararts5195
@interstellararts5195 2 года назад
Actually, if I recall correctly, the mind control only happened once before everything, when he was younger. It was from Cricket’s book, and it said that Cricket saw them from her mother/grandmother’s office. It is possible it was only Cricket’s neighborhood who came to get the old dragons the reason they were mind controlled, and it said that Katydid was one of four dragons taking the old dragon to Wasp hive. Or I could be wrong.
@Beulraeki
@Beulraeki 2 года назад
To be honest for every character, Clay: A great beginning to the series, and makes people want more, but the only problem is that Tui neglects the MudWings. Tsunami: Feels a bit forced to go into the Sea Kingdom, but it is actually nessessary. The Lost Heir is a very memorable book. Glory: Again, Glory's perspective gives us insight and pride for the RainWings, which is why she's the most popular character besides Clay. Starflight: A great part of the book series too. Not sure what flaws it has, though. Sunny: Like all final books of a series, Sunny's book feels a bit forced for the JMP series. The introductions of Moon and Darkstalker feel forced. Moon: Esentially a great character in Moon Rising, but she loses her personallity after, and is only used for x Winter or x Qibli content. Winter: Basically a banished prince arc, but he doesn't improve much afterwards. Peril, Turtle, and Qibli: Great books, but again, with Qibli's book, the introduction of Luna feels forced. Blue: I agree with you, this has the worst introduction to an arc ever since The Trials of Apollo. Cricket: This is an interesting part of the series, but I don't remember much from it, so I won't elaborate further. Sundew: Same with Sundew. Snowfall: I haven't read her book.
@allisonthompson1984
@allisonthompson1984 2 года назад
I do agree with most of this dang thsi must have taken ages to write
@Beulraeki
@Beulraeki 2 года назад
I mean, by her style. I think that is a bit obvious.
@Beulraeki
@Beulraeki 2 года назад
True
@Beulraeki
@Beulraeki 2 года назад
Yeah, that's the setback.
@neavehrivera325
@neavehrivera325 2 года назад
I agree that he doesn't have much character traits, but he was an interesting character to start a new arc with. ( also if no one noticed, burn had a pair of Silkwing wings in her wierdling tower.)
@DragonsAreGreat
@DragonsAreGreat 2 года назад
While I do disagree, I do think that this is a good video! I do have a lot of theories on what you mentioned, since I really love the SilkWings, so I'll share them here. Blue met Swordtail on the racetrack because both Luna and Io did track in school and both of the brothers were supposed to stay with their sisters after school. The Chrysalis is very, very big, and there are not many dragons who actually know how big it is. In a Hive, there is many sections of the Chrysalis with a system where most of the dragons in a section only know about their particular section or only a couple, so that if one is discovered, it would be hard for the HiveWings to find out who everyone in the Chrysalis is. I also theorize that Io does know about many of the sections and has been in the Chrysalis for a lot longer than even Swordtail and Luna know about, since she was instructed to keep it a secret. She went on missions for them, which was how she had friends in Yellowjacket Hive (mentioned in TPJ), and already somewhat knew Cinnabar (which would be part of the reason Cinnabar was so eager to join Io, since she already liked her). Luna would have found a section of the Chrysalis and told Io and Swordtail, and got them to join too (even though Io would already be a part of a different one). While Blue was escaping, two random SilkWings helped him get up a ledge, Io told them "the seeds will grow again" and they helped them escapea by blocking the hallway by pretending to argue with wings spread. This would be a Chrysalis code since Io would be in a section with them (she would be in multiple sections at once) and know that they would help, or she would at least know the code because of her long involvement with the Chrysalis. Burnet and Silverspot did know about flamesilks and the Chrysalis, but tried very hard to shelter Blue so that he would not be taken away like Admiral. They wanted very much to protect him by teaching him that nothing was wrong in the Hive and anyone who said different was lying. They were also very afraid of the HiveWIngs and that they would separate them and their children. I did not proofread, sorry if it is hard to understand!
@nicholasdavies9491
@nicholasdavies9491 2 года назад
Unpopular Opinion:The Lost Continent is my favorite arc...just saying.
@AbunchOfRandomArt
@AbunchOfRandomArt 2 года назад
I disagree, blue is a very relatable characters in my opinion. And blue is a very complex character if you did deeper.
@guntherhasregrets1954
@guntherhasregrets1954 2 года назад
then explain him to us. personally i think all of Tui’s characters are flawed in some way, but prove me wrong
@MostlyHippo
@MostlyHippo 2 года назад
I have to contradict some points : Cricket looks him as a test and not a friend . I disagree as Cricket considers him a good friend as Cricket said in the same book and in Hive Queen . Yes, Blue crumbles under pressure but that is also shows his personality and how he sees other dragons
@claireleibel7106
@claireleibel7106 2 года назад
Honestly? Can we talk about how quick Blue falls in love? Cricket pulls him into a shed, and he’s just, Love you now, when we having dragonets gurl.
@dragonfan3934
@dragonfan3934 Год назад
He was kinda drugged up too LMAO
@jeremybedson6651
@jeremybedson6651 10 месяцев назад
Look if a girl did that to me I would also immediately fall in love with her but perhaps that's just me :P
@Caitlynmckitty8622
@Caitlynmckitty8622 2 года назад
I'm a little confused when you were talking about the flamesilk cavern, and about blue not even thinking about escaping, he was desperate to escape in the book but just needed help doing it. That's just what I'm pretty sure the book said anyway, great video as always and I TOTALLY agree on blue being a blank slate character!
@user-bo4id3yk6k
@user-bo4id3yk6k 3 месяца назад
I don’t really agree with blue being a blank slate dragon
@iriscupcake3583
@iriscupcake3583 2 года назад
I think Luna was running at the track and that is how he met swordtail also I agree with this
@inkdragon1109
@inkdragon1109 2 года назад
I can agree Luna is a much stronger character than blue, however Blue had some confidence in Luna
@drawesomejulia
@drawesomejulia 2 года назад
I just assumed Blue’s guardians forced him to join track like how many parents force their kids to join after school activities or sports
@Idolaundry11
@Idolaundry11 2 года назад
I think your right
@guntherhasregrets1954
@guntherhasregrets1954 2 года назад
yeah, if Tui wasnt dogshit at detailing his past she mightve done a better job portraying him
@AxesteelMusic
@AxesteelMusic 2 года назад
I like blue, y’all trippin. 🤷‍♀️
@wingedaxolotlproductions5320
@wingedaxolotlproductions5320 2 года назад
Blue is literally me. i dont do anything good. and thats a fact. and i also feel like the character that lots of people hate.
@kelcey.carp4
@kelcey.carp4 2 года назад
I was blind to your points while reading the book, and even WITH those points running through, I still think blue was the right dragon for book 11. I don't have any direct things to say, but I agree with the vast majority of disagreeing comments. He is just fit for the character, and, unlike the majority of perspectives we get, Blue has a way less violent way of thinking.
@claireleibel7106
@claireleibel7106 2 года назад
Uh... Luna couldn't exactly be the protagonist. She was in a literal cocoon for most of the book. Swordtail might have been a better candidate.
@Spitfire-Acid
@Spitfire-Acid Год назад
‘Blue did not deserve a POV’ Me, as someone who adores and relates HEAVILY to Blue: *I’m leaving this video right now.*
@arrawolf
@arrawolf Год назад
I don’t think you have to have an active character for them to be a good main character. He’s lack of action shows how he put others before himself , he shows this by his sacrifice. This give him character in a different way
@TrickyTalon23
@TrickyTalon23 2 года назад
Lol this person actually thinks Blue is anything like Turtle.
@andrewnorton931
@andrewnorton931 Год назад
Blue is my favorite character in the whole series, simply because I relate to him the most. I definitely think he deserved his own book, and I think Tui did an amazing job on his book. I couldn't ask for a much better character to start off the forth ark.
@amethystthepurplelynel7994
@amethystthepurplelynel7994 Год назад
Agreed. It triggers me when people hate on and accuse another character just for their personalities or being similar to another character, very strongly disagree with this.
@Codyy_65
@Codyy_65 2 года назад
Me watching this hoping it will open my eyes to my favourite character: Also me: nobody disses my baby blue!
@haylynn3900
@haylynn3900 2 года назад
uh Blue was looking for a way out of the flamesilk cave, but he was just trying not to get any attention from the guards
@cringenugget
@cringenugget Год назад
“Warrior cat POV’s are basically just cut out pieces of paper.” Get ready of the comment section to blow up, Arcane.
@brandimoore421
@brandimoore421 Год назад
I disagree I haven’t gotten to arc 3 yet but I’ve heard a lot about him that he is just a nice quiet cinnamon roll I relate to him a lot and mabye he was at the track Because he was cheering them on
@silliestperson
@silliestperson 2 года назад
I respect ur opinion and have not finished any of the books but blue is one of my favorite dragons Edit : You hate him? Sorry but I don’t respect ur opinion anymore.
@krscartwright4951
@krscartwright4951 2 года назад
People are entitled to having their own opinions. That doesn't entitle others to disrespect those individuals. Since you love blue so much, its baffling to me that this is the way you think as blue would highly disagree with the idea that just because others think differently or have different opinions, they don't deserve respect..?
@saIami2
@saIami2 Год назад
Blue is my favorite character :(
@petershaw1199
@petershaw1199 Год назад
I love ❤️ Blue
@Fizzymilkshakee
@Fizzymilkshakee Год назад
The thing is, if Luna was the protag of s3 b1, the finale of the whole series would be of the pov of blue
@wonderstorm116
@wonderstorm116 2 года назад
Swordtail: a hecking savage Sundew: anarchist Blue: pathetic lol Luna: fire go brrrr Everyone else: welp this either sucks or is fine Snowfall: *everyone die until tui makes me put on a ring that makes me love u all hahaha*
@oak098
@oak098 2 года назад
I personally think that it should have been Luna at the start, Blue at the end. Of course, this would have to have some major changes. For example, Luna would be taken by the Breath of Evil instead of Blue. I just feel like it would have a much bigger chance for Blue to be fleshed out and more interesting as the final protagonist of the third arc. Instead of just not knowing anything in the first book and having a rushed romance with Cricket. I also think Swordtail could have been a potential better protagonist for book 11, mainly because he would also have a connection to the Chrysalis and a lot more to show for the Silkwings.
@amogussss.
@amogussss. 9 месяцев назад
i feel so bad for blue after the book 14 epilogue-
@ScrunklyLittleMan
@ScrunklyLittleMan 2 года назад
I relate to blue and cricket very much. I'm a bad protagonist.
@cringenugget
@cringenugget Год назад
“I think Luna should’ve been a protagonist-“ Book 15 *ello*
@zacharybyford8200
@zacharybyford8200 20 дней назад
As much as I agree with you there is two points to dispute. You say that he doesn't even try to think about escape from the FalmeSilk Cavern. Yet at least twice he searches the cavern exclusively to find an escape. He even learns how much of a powder keg of animosity and grudges that the Flamesilks themselves are on one of these recon missions. A fact that could've been easily exploited if Cricket hadn't found him first. Also IIRC it is said by Cricket that the mass possessions were extremely rare (until Blue escapes from Cicada Hive) so it is possible one just didn't happen where Blue could notice it.
@numeraya
@numeraya 2 года назад
What are you talking about? No other SilkWing except Blue is content with HiveWings in charge, this is literally spelled at loud by Io and Luna. They allow them to because they live on fear, this is very common for totalitary resim to use terror as a metod of rule. And how they're suppose to protest when any disobedience is punish by being paralyzed? Swordtail was send to prison at least five times for being disobedient, which Blue himself admits was unfair. Beside, you mentioned Chrysalis, so you must know that not all SilkWings are happy with their situation. And what do you mean by Blue not making any choice in the story? He sacrifices himself so Cricket and Sundew could escape from hive. Not to mention the statement of him not making an escape attempt later is just wrong. He try to find a way out and discovers Sundew and Cricket digging a tunnel. His arc is not about getting less shy, is about standing up for himself and dragons who he cares about. He even explain that in the book to his father. He doesn't seem to be particulary shy, he has friends and in the first chapter he speaks to HiveWing he never met before. Lack of social skills doesn't seem to bother him, he's very emphatetic and doesn't want to offend anyone, that's not the same thing. Oh, and how swapping him with Luna is suppose to fix anything? She was unconcious for the most part of the book.
@guntherhasregrets1954
@guntherhasregrets1954 2 года назад
i agree with you, although i still think Blue could have had a little more meat to his character than just that- which its a solid personality dont get me wrong, i think its the way Tui portrayed him
@rejta858
@rejta858 2 года назад
BLUE IS AMAZING!!! HOW CAN TOU POSSIBLY DISLIKE HIM!!!!!
@guntherhasregrets1954
@guntherhasregrets1954 2 года назад
with critical thinking and an eye to view others work without bias
@krscartwright4951
@krscartwright4951 2 года назад
@@guntherhasregrets1954 facts 👌
@awkwardlyanimated9185
@awkwardlyanimated9185 Год назад
I didn’t enjoy blue as the protagonist and somebody else could have been a lot more exciting, perhaps Swordtail or Luna, but I really enjoy the book and the -entire pantala arc-(an unpopular opinion.)
@petershaw1199
@petershaw1199 Год назад
Actually Blue did write “help now escape later”
@amethystthepurplelynel7994
@amethystthepurplelynel7994 Год назад
"ripoff" How in the actual fuck? Turtle and Blue were made by the same creator, and have differences. Well some people have to hate it people judge by personalities and actions. He DID try to escape. I read, and it said something about him looking around at the loose rocks. I absolutely love Blue and this "review" had me scarred. Killed my soul to see this video appear.
@princesscrystalofthejewelw9178
@princesscrystalofthejewelw9178 2 года назад
I fully agree with this. Blue is worst protagonist i have ever seen and would do much better as side character, he's really boring, never once thinks for himself and will do anything someone tells him to. It was interesting to see though the perspective of someone who wonders what life is like for others but it got exhausting pretty quickly. Heck! Even Swordtail would've been a better choice for protagonist then Blue! Blue just isn't a good protagonist and definitely should not been the protagonist of any book let alone The Lost Continent and be the one introducing Pantala to everyone reading! He's bland character who has no personality Wow that was longer then i thought it would be
@jaz8565
@jaz8565 2 года назад
Blue had to be the worst, most cliche, most boring character to ever exist in the series. He really had to be a Flamesilk. I hate him.
@pepperwaffles4228
@pepperwaffles4228 2 года назад
Oh man just wait until you read about Clearsight. She’s 50x worse in my opinion.
@aqurnus4404
@aqurnus4404 2 года назад
@@pepperwaffles4228 holy shit- you don’t like clearsight either?!
@aqurnus4404
@aqurnus4404 2 года назад
Though I agree I never likes the third arc very much I dispise cricket and all the main cast of good guys They are carbon copies of the dod Though when I listened to blues book I was chucking the book across the room like 50 times (in my head ofc) It he is so boring
@pepperwaffles4228
@pepperwaffles4228 2 года назад
@@aqurnus4404 YESSSSS. SHE IS SUCH A MARY SUE
@aqurnus4404
@aqurnus4404 2 года назад
@@pepperwaffles4228 holy- can you give me your discord tag? My reason is very long
@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621
@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621 2 года назад
I think he is a good start to the arc, but he wouldn’t be good for book 15.
@bayzul7405
@bayzul7405 12 дней назад
I think Blue's a good slate in a dystopian world. From Arc1-2 of war, Arc3 starts with 1984 vibes. His mother's quietly upset of metamorphosis. Blue snaps from his coping acceptance seeing the extreme in his father trapped among flamesilks. If anything improve Blue, he DID need initiative rethinking Hivewings than readers at page 200 for that one satisfying development.
@leefee5369
@leefee5369 2 года назад
Your videos are absolutely amazing, but I disagree. You keep mention these three things: Blue has no character. Blue is too empathetic taking away from the character. And finally: Blue does nothing for himself.I believe blue is just more relaxed and empathetic, making him gullible. He prefers not to take heavy action: Which leads me to why your points are wrong. You say the reason for the first one is that he focuses on others characters leading to him having no character- but in the book he seems nerdy, kind, empathetic, and anxious. And I think his empathy adds to his character rather than getting rid of it. And I feel like he only does nothing for himself BECAUSE of his personality- it really adds to the story. Also you say their love was rushed and I disagree even more with that- I feel like 'a couple of weeks' is heavily exaggerated, and even if it were that case he went from 'Oh I completely trust the hive wings and believe they're doing the best they can for us, they're just naturally above us" to "The hive wings are lying to us and the queen is running a kingdom where silk wings are treated unfairly and she has all the power- not only that she's been poisoning the eggs. It's safer if we LEAVE OUR HOME FOREVER TO A PLACE THAT MIGHT HAVE DRAGONS THAT WANT TO KILL US." I'm sure that's self explanatory. Also- "Warriors are all blank slates like LionBlaze." Couldn't agree more- after the first series it went to background characters to have no personality to everyone with no personality.
@SpookyPancakes
@SpookyPancakes 5 месяцев назад
The worst protagonist? Yes. A bad protagonist? No, not really, the fact that he is so empathic is CENTRAL to the theme, and the point you mentioned at 2:02 , the reason we didn’t get to that is because it’s not important to the main plot, therefore Tui didn’t spend the time to write a scene specifically for exposition. Blue also does not like hive wings persay in his book, he more or less still views them as human, rather, dragon, he is one of the only characters in that arc that doesn’t see the world in high contrast shades of black and white, he is a character with a flat arc, therefore, he doesn’t change his core beliefs, the only problem is a problem I have with this series as a whole sometimes, never going back to previous perspectives, which I think Tui managed to dip into with the dangerous gift. In conclusion, this video makes some decent points that I can tell that you genuinely believe in them, I don’t, I think there is a few things you missed, whether it be the core theme or what blue’s internal beliefs actually are, and I would genuinely like to hear your response, thank you for reading
@5uspicious_Person
@5uspicious_Person 29 дней назад
Now, I've only just finished The Lost Continent, but I've gotta say: Tui severely underused the Silkwings sensing vibrations via their antennae. How the heck are Silkwings not automatically expert claw-to-claw fighters when they can do THAT?!? Even if Blue didn't have his silk nor his wings (and the hivewings are absolutely JACKED), he still practically has insane reflexes because of his antennae. Once he realized that Queen Wasp was awful in the Library, he should've ran straight into battle. The mistake I think Tui made with Blue, is not related to the character’s personality or development, but rather, not making the best of Blue’s abilities.
@_Kool-Aid_
@_Kool-Aid_ 2 года назад
You did make really good points, but I think that it was a good idea to use blue, as he wouldn’t make as good of an ending character for most of the reasons you stated. Yes, he is and was weak but he was good to start off with in the beginning as his view of other dragons helps you to get a grasp of the situation pantala is in. Though he did like hive wings way too much for the sake that his sister and friends disliked hive wings, as well as the fact that they choose everything for the silk wings, I think that he was a pretty OK protagonist. Not to mention that you could argue this with the other starter protagonists as well, as Moonwatcher’s mind reading abilities gave her a good look at what other dragons were thinking, again, setting the scene for the second arc. In the first arc clay was also a pushover but he thought about others a lot. So honestly, he was a bit bleak at first and still kind of is but I think that he is almost on the same level as the other starter protagonists. Like you said he isn’t as good as the others because he didn’t have and strong opinions of his own, but I don’t really think that Luna would be a great starting character for the third arc. Blue overall just fits the pattern of every starter character having special abilities as well as thinking of others. Thank you for listening to my rant. Also let me just say this is probably the most amount of the longest comments I have ever seen on one video. Like, even moonbli vs. winterwatcher comment sections have less rants than this.
@auttumnanimations6623
@auttumnanimations6623 2 года назад
Your a analysis is so good! Maybe we could do a video together on how the main tribes had lived for so long if they only can have a couple eggs, and remain a large tribe, there has to be some inbreeding. Right?
@guntherhasregrets1954
@guntherhasregrets1954 2 года назад
yeah i was wondering about that too, dragons are reptiles and shoukd be able to produce at least a dozen eggs. Tui is trying to make the dragons more human-like, but in turn is making her fanbase mildly confused. plus the fact that dragons can run or walk while holding items coudl never work. sometimes Tui needs to suck it up and have a character carry something in their mouth
@haylynn3900
@haylynn3900 2 года назад
@@guntherhasregrets1954 there are 3 legged dogs right? cant they run plenty fast? and maybe dragons can be like kanguroos and balance on their hind legs and use their tails to balance? just saying...
@guntherhasregrets1954
@guntherhasregrets1954 2 года назад
@@haylynn3900 yes but we haven’t seen their run cycle, thats why im saying theres a problem with it, and the lengths Tui will go if the dragons do run like those dogs or roos just shows how human shes trying to make them, and in that case, stripling away the fantasy aspect and a sense of wonder about the creature. which isnt bad, but it does dull down the world building sense nearly everything is the same, and shes focusing on the characters instead of everything else. i do like the idea of roo-dragons though, you gave me a new drawing idea
@TropicalSunset14
@TropicalSunset14 2 года назад
Book 15 is coming!! Luna is the main protagonist in the book Flames of hope. She, like blue also has a goal. She’s a flame silk like blue, she might help snowfall as on the cover she seems to be in a volcano as the rocks on the roof to the cave come from a volcano, this might indicate that there might be a volcano in pantala, the volcano may be in the mountains near the poison jungle. I love your art by the way, you inspire others to read the books, and the amount of effort you put into your drawings is amazing, I encourage you to keep doing art for RU-vid, we all support you!
@5rcane
@5rcane 2 года назад
TYSM! I saw the new cover, but I didn’t make the volcano inference. It reminded me more of Giant’s Causeway in Ireland but upside down lol
@TropicalSunset14
@TropicalSunset14 2 года назад
@@5rcane ^^
@strawberrymae
@strawberrymae 2 года назад
I have to respectfully disagree. I think blue is just sweet.
@heello2u465
@heello2u465 2 года назад
I do like how you and others finally called out darkstalker fans, but the ball was dropped a little bit here. Why is it you were attributing characteristics of Admiral to Blue himself when he was trying to escape? Comparing Turtle and Blue is like comparing apples and oranges. Turtle is a privilidged member of the ruling class and a reality warper. Blue is a victim of oppression who tries to see a better world due to not initially being in a position to change things.
@Elizabeth_Afton_The1st
@Elizabeth_Afton_The1st 3 месяца назад
Maybe Blue was at the track to support Luna? Just a thought, because I think Luna would do track
@YoungBlood192
@YoungBlood192 2 года назад
For me blue is the best just bc of presure lol
@papayatherainwing1860
@papayatherainwing1860 2 года назад
I just wanted to say… I love your lighting!,
@atlaskanik
@atlaskanik 2 года назад
I don’t think Blue was a good protagonist, however I do still quite like his character and his relationship with Cricket.
@qibli2154
@qibli2154 2 года назад
I agree with some of that but I’m sorry to say I can’t agree with most of it. I love blue, I think he’s sweet
@5rcane
@5rcane 2 года назад
Agree to disagree XD
@greatness4
@greatness4 2 года назад
👀🔥
@madfx8058
@madfx8058 2 года назад
No blue is my fav
@krscartwright4951
@krscartwright4951 2 года назад
Having Opinions is different than being ignorant of understanding. You can understand a character, their personality and their motives, and still not enjoy the character. That's why diversity is a great thing, and WOF does it very well. I don't particularly like the execution of blues character, or his tendencies, but there's still parts of him I can relate to, even though I dislike his character as a whole. I mean, Most fans tend to love Moon, for example. I still understand her character and can relate to aspects of it even though She'sby far my least favorite, and, my opinion of her character transcends into the realm of loathing at most times. However, that's my opinion, and that's ok! The beauty of fiction is astounding and has the ability to resonate with so many different types of consumers. I don't think that comes from a lack of understanding or knowledge of a character, I think instead that it boils down to individual perspective and opinion. Man I love fiction 😍
@MegatronEnthusiast
@MegatronEnthusiast Год назад
I do like the concept of Silkwings bowing down to Wasp. It let me run a bit wild and I made my idea of that set up a lot closer to Half-Life 2’s City 17.
@basilsgarden100
@basilsgarden100 2 года назад
I love your videos! Keep it up :) i’m so excited to see more content, it’s so nice to listen to and I’ve listened to all of your videos last night doing my work!
@5rcane
@5rcane 2 года назад
Thank you!!
@Yourtownidiot
@Yourtownidiot 2 года назад
Actually blue did think about trying to escape the flamesilk cavern, he was looking around for zny loose rkcks That might give him hope, this is how he found the littoe peek hole thing where the other were
@emeraldqueen1994
@emeraldqueen1994 Год назад
What if Blue was swapped, not with Luna, but with Sword - tail?
@omggamer6166
@omggamer6166 2 года назад
I love blue personally my least favourite book is escaping peril peril. She was on scarlets side then she was on clays side then she just took a animus touched necklace with no concerns even tho clay had alwase said that if peril had no fire scales clay would be dead soo I just don’t like escaping peril just the way the book was written but thats just my oppion.
@krscartwright4951
@krscartwright4951 2 года назад
Lol perspective skewed
@antarkathebringeroflight9878
@antarkathebringeroflight9878 2 года назад
You are really underrated
@jeremybedson6651
@jeremybedson6651 10 месяцев назад
This is the same reason Fantastic beasts didn't get a lot of public reception along with newt :( people deep down can sometimes be disappointing as despite their best behaviour deep down is not optimal. People want the hyper masculine harry potter to save the day with big explosions and will beat the bad guy into summation, its a trait we have sought after for countless generations and despise the 'newt' character's as most really don't have the time to really listen to people in their lives and thus cannot comprehend the idea. I think the author was trying to go for that and go with a more adult theme like WOF tends to do, but as a "kids book" it goes over most intended audiences head unless their mature enough to understand. I think it was a good idea for Blue as the POV for the first book as the series had started bringing in more mature audiences that would appreciate it. Rereading the series you can see her writing has evolved and I would say in a good way, tho perhaps arc 3 was a bit ambitious trying to fit adult themes into a "children's book" but Id say she did a pretty good job. Perhaps take a read of the book not with the expectation of an action dragon adventure but as a journey of self discovery from a person you may not have seen before, one that gets cast to the shadows, who didn't grow up special, not until it is thrust upon him. He's a Newt not a Harry, but I think you can gain much more insight into this world from a Newt than you could ever by any other means, especially when that world is alien to you as you no longer see it though your original eyes. I'm surprised you compare him to Luna as she has little to no deeper character apart from a blunt force instrument, next to lizard id say their not exactly thought provoking but I don't blame that on the original idea or the author, more so the time constraints and pressure for the 15th book that wasn't her fault. What is interesting is the word "hate" here, is it the lost potential or the change from previous character personality's? Can you hate the void for lacking, perhaps we just don't know. Just it might be a bit iffy to say you "hate" blue as that simplifies your own to the opposite, just a suggestion not critique. Theirs something there, you just have to look, then again, everyone sleeps well in the shade, especially if its all they know. New horizons and all that :) hope this inspires some thought and keep reading my fellow fanatic fans of fiction. x
@lumintherainwing
@lumintherainwing Год назад
And I thought he along with Turtle is the most relatable, but if you put it that way, guess not. Also, what's the app called?
@gigistudio23
@gigistudio23 2 года назад
I do agree with what you say and I do think that Tui could have developed Blue in a different way but I still love my boy. One of my favorite characters
@Rip-Tyro
@Rip-Tyro 2 года назад
blue is a Walmart turtle
@allisonthompson1984
@allisonthompson1984 2 года назад
I’m excited for Luna’s book in a few years
@historian
@historian 9 месяцев назад
I really like Blue.
@Nek0ru
@Nek0ru 2 года назад
im NOT trying to be mean buuuuuuuuuttt. why you put shading on something that is glowing well is fire? ps constructive criticism!
@guntherhasregrets1954
@guntherhasregrets1954 2 года назад
hah i noticed that too!
@hydrashade1851
@hydrashade1851 2 года назад
I feel like Blue is good and bad at the same time. He is a hollow character, but he's also wrongfully content. In this context, that can be good for new readers to learn about the world as Blue learns. The fact that he was very content made him unable to learn about the true nature of the world he lives in, from what I've seen.
@BlueTheSilkwing
@BlueTheSilkwing 11 месяцев назад
Ahem…
@emmamcvey2349
@emmamcvey2349 2 года назад
Why does she hate blue?!
@clay5075
@clay5075 2 года назад
Blue is what the DoD see Sunny as
@Wofcatlover88
@Wofcatlover88 Год назад
I love blue
@OsmolskaeVelo
@OsmolskaeVelo 4 месяца назад
This is decently well-thought out but I wanna point out a few things here. Blue being weak or inactive (for the sake of briefness I'll just shorten this to impotent) honestly isn't particularly bad. I think having a range of characters with different abilities, morals, and mindsets is integral to interesting stories. While dragons like Glory, Tsunami, and Sundew are really damn cool, not everyone can or should be them. And yes, there are "weaker" dragons with similar personalities to Blue (Sunny or Turtle). In terms of the whole "other people doing things for him" thing, I'd say that's mostly because he was raised to follow the rules. He doesn't know to run, or fight, or hide- all he knows is that HiveWings supposedly know what's best for SilkWings. And yes, other SilkWings are more aware of the injustice they live under, even his own half-sister. Though, it may be that Blue's mom raised him slightly differently (correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't re-read TLC in a while). His initial mindset and life also (likely) reflects the reality of how many people lived in our world, and still do today. For example, countries like Russia or China have HEAVY censorship laws similar to the HiveWings, leading to people to not question their government. Even here in the US, some people in extreme political groups (just take whichever one you hate the most and put that here instead of me doing it) are entirely blind to/want to keep people blind to certain realities- an example being FL governor Ron DeSantis' "Don't say gay" bill. TLD;R I think Blue well reflects the mentality of people living in autocratic societies. Beyond that, his pacifistic, chilled out nature is quite charming in my opinion and contrasts/complements the more wild, inquisitive, and aggressive ones of Swordtail, Cricket and Sundew. Also throwing the whole "I hate this "uwu cinnamon roll" so much. He is just a ripoff of Turtle." bit at the end kinda makes the argument difficult to take fully seriously- I understand those feelings but keeping them to yourself will help convince opposed viewpoints easier rather than turning them off with descriptions like "(I'm not typing it) cinnamon roll" or "ripoff Turtle". Edit: I know full and welll that yes, i did actually have "it" wirtten down here, but that was from a copy-paste. I'm gonna leave the "I'm not typing it" bit because I think it's silly.
@scarlettrose2746
@scarlettrose2746 Год назад
Look I'm not going to be a Karen about this but I think blue is not a bad protagonist the lesson he learns is to stand up for himself and his loved ones when necessary he is very very kind for goodness sakes not every main character has to be angry selfish and mean he's not that different from sunny and nobody hates sunny as a character they are both optimistic and put others before themselves so don't be mean about it
@LunaTheFlamesilk
@LunaTheFlamesilk 3 месяца назад
WHY ARE YOU SAYING THIS ABOUT MY BROTHER
@aaronadams7710
@aaronadams7710 2 года назад
SPOILERS FOR BOOK 15 Just occurred to me after reading The Flames of Hope and then watching this again that Blue and Lunas’ POVs that they probably should have had their places swapped in the arc. Luna is a more active character who was just as familiar with Pantala as Blue so as to introduce the audience to the new continent, as well as to the resistance movement, the chrysalis. She would better suit the more action driven plot line of TLC and would be put in a potentially interesting dilemma if the othermind used her to take control of pantala instead of blue. We learn in TFOH that Luna feels intense guilt after using her silk to hurt others, so what would happen if she had no choice? Blue, on the other hand, would fit better in a more passive role such as that in TFOH. His empathic nature could be useful to get through to Lizard and convince him to explain how to defeat the othermind, he would still probably form a close bond with Dusky, maybe even more so than Luna, being an empath would allow readers to learn more about the other members of the stealth team, and he would overall suit the theme of “talons united” much better IMO.
@DarkzoneEclipse
@DarkzoneEclipse 8 месяцев назад
sorry but NO blicket forever
@someotherguy41
@someotherguy41 2 года назад
i completely disagree
@Aramays.life.Glur.158
@Aramays.life.Glur.158 2 года назад
Yeah I agree with Seawong, Blue is a great character
@suchomimustenerensis
@suchomimustenerensis 2 года назад
The 3rd Arc is my least favorite arc,the covers are great and I still enjoy the 3rd Arc quite a bit but it’s very weak compared to the last 2 arcs
@5rcane
@5rcane 2 года назад
Flames of Hope's cover in particular looks very good in my opinion. Also Cricket's because the hive's design rocks.
@pepperwaffles4228
@pepperwaffles4228 2 года назад
@@5rcane Yeah, Flames of Hope definitely has one of the coolest covers. I just don’t really like Luna lol
@Iam_kiinoko
@Iam_kiinoko 2 года назад
I’m sad that swordtail didn’t get a pov. BLUE YOU STOLE IT
@AbsoluteGremline
@AbsoluteGremline 2 года назад
You are right. book 11 didn’t even make me motivated to read on (even though I did) Luna is the protagonist in upcoming book 15 and I bet it will be more interesting. But I like blue for the fact that his personality is different from any of the dragnets of destiny or the dragons in the other prophecies. Honestly I just think that blue is pathetic by hating changes. that’s all I’ve got to say Qwq
@charlettecoleman9778
@charlettecoleman9778 2 года назад
Tbh I really don’t agree with you, I absolutely love Blue and he is my at least 5 fav character
@guntherhasregrets1954
@guntherhasregrets1954 2 года назад
but why? you cant just state that he’s your favorite character and carry on, what makes him good? what do you see in him that drives you to vouch for him?
@duosolve6990
@duosolve6990 2 года назад
Luna wouldn’t be a better protagonist for one reason, SHE WAS IN A COCOON HALF THE BOOK! This would have drastically shortened the ark
@Just_your_adverage_dragon
@Just_your_adverage_dragon Год назад
But Luna is book 15
@Ravnfang_
@Ravnfang_ Год назад
This was made 1 year ago! Before it came out
@frankhickman1769
@frankhickman1769 Год назад
Instead of blue they should have done swordtail
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