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BMW 1200GS refitting the centre stand after spraying

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This is one of the most difficult jobs to do on the bike, even though it looks the easiest. The centre stands suffer a lot of abuse, being under the bike, and soon look very second rate. Removal is easy and gives you the opportunity to sand, prime and respray and at the same time grease and oil the springs. Then all you have to do is reassemble....piece of cake, but then you will probably give up the will to live! But this method works, even I am very surprised.

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@patrkbukly Год назад

Simple trick is the following; partially install the left side of the center stand (bolt and bushing). Now, right side install springs to bike and then to stand. Now, with the leverage offered by the right-side center-stand arm opposite of the left side already partially attached, pull with right side of stand and line up right side bolt hole, easily insert the bolt and thread in by hand a few turns. Now tighten everything with torx ratchet. Should take less than 2 minutes. Done it many times.

@mmaaddict78 2 года назад

This is the definition of working smarter, not harder!

@michaelrea1200 4 года назад

Clever bit of lateral thinking and ingenuity , what with Normski’s solution to the alternator belt trick (BMW will hate him for this fix as you don’t need their £200 tool) and now the washer spring solution, this is one 70 year old genius I’d like on my side on any long bike tour, his fixes can be done roadside, that’s the beauty of what he does; where has he been all these years, more of the same please.

@raystewart365 4 года назад

wouldn't it be great if you had a neighbour like Normski

@smoll.miniatures Год назад

The alternator bolt trick isn’t even needed.

@checker3694 7 месяцев назад

The washer trick is utterly amazing

@normski3091 7 месяцев назад

Thank you checker...It was a real problem trying to do what I thought was simple!

@bonnyriggcraig 4 года назад

Hi Normski, don't normally comment on videos but just refitted the centre stand on my r1200rt today. Saved me hours of frustration and bust knuckles. Brilliant tip.

@normski3091 4 года назад

bonnyriggcraig Hi Bonnyriggcraig, that s so great to hear that it also worked for you, I am so pleased 😁

@rows10 3 года назад

When I bought my used 2016 RT from my local BMW dealer it was spotless apart from the centre stand. The salesman offered to have it painted which after watching your video I am glad he did. I now make a point of cleaning it every time the bike is washed. If it gets into a condition were it needs repainting I'll invest in some masking tape and do it on the bike. An excellent video. Not had the pleasure of working on my bike yet as it is still under warranty but am building a list of the tools I am going to need thanks to your vids.

@normski3091 3 года назад

Absolutely right........I feel exactly the same even though, or because I have done it. Prevention is better than ever having to take it off, and an hour with masking tape is better than a thousand without! Mine needs doing now....so I have just purchased a warm air dryer, £49 from Amazon instead of £120+ from bike suppliers, bottle of ACF50 and and 'atomising' spray for £7 instead of a compressor and airgun! Is it worth a video?? Let me see how it turns out!

@oldgriff8559 2 года назад

Just watched your video what a brilliant bit of ingenuity on stretching the spring, I was dreading the thought of fitting a stand to my K1200R but this has given me the confidence to give it a go..thank you.

@normski3091 2 года назад

Thanks Old Griffo….I was exactly as you?? How do you do this 😩…but it works 🥳

@andygotting9152 Год назад

Just about to do this to my R1100R. Genius method to stretch the spring. Thanks for sharing.

@normski3091 Год назад

Your most welcome Andy, fiddly but be patient and it works 🤗

@orangelion03 2 года назад

Thank you! Used the washers as you did and they worked a treat!! No struggles at all. Even the inner spring went on without too much fuss, using a slender screwdriver leveraged against the structure.

@rolandwheeler4842 2 года назад

Genius! I am going to try this on my F800R which came without a center stand. When I opened up the SW Mototech package and saw that spring I cringed! Great job on the video!!!

@orangelion03 2 года назад

Love RU-vid. Broke one of the center stand screws and lost the pivot pin. Ordered replacement parts and found your video. FYI, there is a pressed in copperish bushing in the frame bracket…no idea how to remove that though I did order replacements. Thanks!!

@normski3091 2 года назад

Yes centre stand not easy but you are right there is a bush inside. Hope you can get it out 😩

@orangelion03 2 года назад

@@normski3091 I meant to comment how brilliant the washer trick is! Regards the bushings: I got some info from a mechanic friend: you have to go in with a thin hacksaw, cut the old bush longitudinally, and pry it out. Use a wire hone to clean out the hole, put the new bush in the freezer for a few hours, then carefully tap it into place. Germans...

@normski3091 2 года назад

Wow, glad I didn’t try and change the bush. Had enough putting Wunderlich bar risers on an RT and freezing them for 24 hours😱🥶

@stevemcewan1364 3 года назад

Awesome tip thanks

@johnpeters5360 8 месяцев назад

Thanks. Saved me hours of frustration!

@normski3091 8 месяцев назад

So pleased John 🤗

@BIBuildy День назад

In the last step for the inner spring, you could have looped a closed zip-tie around the hook of the inner spring and pulled the opposite end of the tip-tie with your screw driver. That would have effectively given you a longer hook to work with (to free up your other hand). Then you could have guided the real hook into the hole with your free hand and pliers. How about staring over to try it? 😄

@AngelAsylum78 3 месяца назад

Wow, awesome stuff. Struggling to get my daughters moped spring on….. hence why im here. Thank you. Will have to raid the piggy bank for some copper 🤣👍🏍️🤣

@normski3091 3 месяца назад

Ha ha 🤣 that is right…dozens of coins🤗

@kdoherty1000 Год назад

Great job! Thank you so much for sharing this… now it’s my turn 😬😅👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@blackman1999 Год назад

Great video. This hacked worked a treat when replacing the stand on an RT. Many thanks.

@jonboy602 3 года назад

Great video, saved me a lot of grief with my Tenere 700. I used a spring puller/hook for the smaller spring, but it couldn't stretch the bigger one, and neither could I!

@normski3091 3 года назад

Brilliant JB. I was exactly the same, wishing I had never started🤷‍♂️. Pleased it worked on a Tenere.

@jp4141432 3 года назад

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@normski3091 3 года назад

@@jp4141432 Great to hear from you...Japan? which I could read it...thank you so much. Norman

@jp4141432 3 года назад

@@normski3091 TAIWAN

@normski3091 3 года назад

@@jp4141432 Taiwan wonderful 🤗

@mototakahe836 3 года назад

Great tip for bike owners. I did the lie down on the floor with the wire brush and the tin of paint method last time. Might chance my arm next time with your method.

@normski3091 3 года назад

Hi Moto...yes it is not easy. You need to allow and gentle afternoon to put it all back together after respraying, but the main thing is that it works!

@charlietraquair6866 Год назад

Great lesson about never giving up, well done

@normski3091 Год назад

Thank you Charlie...got close to it a few times 🤣

@davidcouling7490 4 года назад

Brilliant....very well done....most impressed....

@normski3091 4 года назад

David Couling Thank you David.......now the engine has blown to bits it seems that all the effort was a bit of a waste, but only hope it can help others 🤗

@AndrewMobly Месяц назад

Here is my trick Attach the spring to the frame as seen in the video. Get hold of a strong S shaped hook. Now grab a ratchet strap (the kind you use to strap your bike to a trailer) Attach the S shaped hook to the free end of the spring. Attach one end of the strap to the S hook, and the other to the rear wheel. Take up the slack in the strap and activate the ratchet mechanism. Once you have stretched the spring, lever the end into place with a stout screwdriver. Remove the hook and ratchet strap. All done

@normski3091 Месяц назад

@@AndrewMobly sounds good Andrew🤗🤩

@adelejones3746 7 месяцев назад

I had a similar problem refitting the handbrake shoe springs on a discovery 3 After hours of struggling, I used a 5' steel bar, I put bailer twine on the spring U, secured the twine to the bar, secured the bar ( in the ground) and levered the spring open with no effort at all. Leverage is the answer here, obviously you'd have to work in a more confined space.

@normski3091 7 месяцев назад

Hi Adele, Yes you are totally correct, what looks simple is in fact beyond us mere humans🤔. Leverage is a good answer!!

@bjrnhjjakobsen2174 4 года назад

Congratulations on your birthday - great content👍🏻

@johnsmith5726 Год назад

I used a ratchet strap and a piece of nylon string, worked a treat. I was going to try the washer trick, but all the washers I had were too thin.😀

@normski3091 Год назад

Sounds like a good idea John...

@Fubar684 4 года назад

I had to do it this way as well on my '05. Thanks for doing this video. Cheers.

@normski3091 4 года назад

Offhand Airgunner thank you Offhand......think this ‘engine blowing up’ is rare but of course does happen. It is such a shame.

@WoodNotts 4 года назад

Would you do a video on the stand you use and give some details about it? I’ve seen a similar hydraulic version that folds away flat when not being used but with 265kg of machine in the air, yours looks more solid and robust. Loving the videos, keep them coming👍

@normski3091 4 года назад

WoodNotts. That is a good idea. I bought my Big Blue lift 4-5 years ago specifically to build a BMW cafe racer. But it fitted my 2012 RT perfectly. I drove down to Tamworth one afternoon and brought it back with me together with a wheel ‘lock’. The inventor who builds the complete lifts was a great guy and explained everything. His web site is: on-bike.com/motorcycle-lifts My son’s 2005 GS is so fast to fix and lift as was my old RT. However when I wheeled it under the RT1200LC there was a glaring problem and I notice that they do not advertise it for that bike anymore, BUT I found a solution.....I should email them with pictures, or better still a RU-vid video as you suggest🤔. The problem is that the exhaust on the new RT’s run under the bike, not as previous to the sides🤷‍♂️. That would mean lifting ON the exhaust, not a good idea. I milled down a block of aluminium that fits the engine and it lifts perfectly. No where near as fast as a full bench bike lift but that would have filled my garage and I had two bikes (the cafe racer) at the time. Then I thought about a hidden lift buried into the floor, which would have been perfect.....but just check out the cost.😱. Yes I will do a video!

@dditch66 4 месяца назад

In the USA, pennies or nickles are worth their weight in gold to expand springs :)

@normskichanneltwo635 4 месяца назад

Great comment Dave 😂

@stewartthompson6256 4 года назад

I was contemplating doing the same on my 13 plate, until I watched the video. I now like the look of rust lol.

@normski3091 4 года назад

Well Stuart you could always lie on your back with a wire brush, emery cloth and a tin of black Hammerite. A nice afternoon spent!

@CLLUK Месяц назад

Thank you for showing us this technique and installation. What type of paint did you use? Last year I rubbed down and painted mine in situ. Looks alot better but lacking that oem finish. Thanks

@normski3091 Месяц назад

@@CLLUK Simonize tough paint satin black. I had to look back at the video and didn’t realise that I hold the can up🤣

@roadwarrior8560 4 месяца назад

Well done, great idea with the washers, would you not have considered Powder coating the stand?

@normski3091 4 месяца назад

Yes would love to have powder coated the stand but the cost of one single item is too much. When I used Two Brothers in Sheffield to powder coat I had as many parts done at the same time to save costs😵‍💫

@norwichscott 2 года назад

And then you realise the stand is round the wrong way 😄

@normski3091 2 года назад

Ha ha yes that would have absolutely ruined the day 🤣🤣

@RossenBial 2 года назад

Hi Normski and thank you for the video! The BMW guy told me over the phone that it’s a tricky job, but they’re located at 80 miles one way from me and I’m not exactly a celebrity to have things done for me , so that the stand will be arriving with fed ex tomorrow. Question: as I’m quite concerned with torque values - did you mention that the side bolts need 40 NM to hold it properly in place?! Thank you so much!, and be sure to have me back with a comment when the job is done.

@normski3091 2 года назад

Hi Rossen, hope it goes well, sorry I never mentioned the torque setting, just so relieved it work🤗 little did I realise then that soon the engine would blow up😱

@RossenBial 2 года назад

@@normski3091 Wait, what? You just used a common sense tightening the pivot bolts? 🤗 But seriously your engine, is it ok?

@normski3091 2 года назад

Morning Rossen, have a watch at this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--XXD3aukX8o.html I then go on and rebuild the complete bike, all parts on my channel🤷‍♂️

@smoll.miniatures 11 месяцев назад

£3 exhaust spring puller on Amazon does the same job in 3 seconds

@kristaylor92 3 месяца назад

Thinking outside the box, but wouldn't be simpler putting the spring on the bike, attach it to the stand and then bolting the stand to the bike? Surely there is more leverage to be had on the stand, and 1 bolt and then pull the other side to then slot the bolt. I have never done this, but will be soon.

@normski3091 3 месяца назад

Yeh tried that Kris as it does seem the most obvious but just didn't work 😵‍💫...for me anyway. But I turned 70 as I did that GS, a younger fitter guy may find it is easy🤣

@kristaylor92 3 месяца назад

@@normski3091 I completely stand by your method, I was just thinking the way that I might of done it. I've recently bought a R1200gs 2005 for dirt cheap and just going through all your videos to get me started on what I need to do and the best way to do it. I appreciate what you've done and uploaded. Especially the Final Drive and alt belt.

@normski3091 3 месяца назад

@@kristaylor92 Brilliant Chris, you will love working on it and bringing it up to spec. My son Jason lost confidence after his bike blew up so I sold it. It was sold on a year or so ago and the new owner has contacted me and it is going well. Worth spending your time and getting to know it inside out. I did the BMW Off Road School last year in Wales...boy if ever you can do it then you must...says me who came off 5 times on the first day, couldn't climb the stairs in the B&B that night, but what an experience🤩

@jp4141432 3 года назад

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@richardthoday4431 4 года назад

How did you remove the springs in the first place? I had read about the washer trick but wasn't sure how to do it with the internal spring. Thanks for the video, it gives me confidence to tackle this task

@normski3091 4 года назад

Hi Richard, I released the springs by removing the bolts that hold the centre stand when the stand is up and the springs not under great tension. When you do the spring trick install the outer big spring on its own, then, believe it or not you can slide the inner spring through the centre once the washers are out. Hook on one end and I used a mole wrench to grab hold of the centre spring hook and pull it into position, hard but it works🤗

@richardthoday4431 4 года назад

Thanks Normski, will give that a go then. Valve clearances to do first though tomorrow

@robferguson9541 Год назад

Would it help to put the washers in whilst outstretched on the bike before removing?

@normski3091 Год назад

Hi Rob, Probably, but don't think I even thought of how I would put it back before I removed it. Forward planning is what I need 🤣🤣

@BIBuildy День назад

I think I'll just remove my center stand (using your washer trick in reverse) and then never put it back on!

@normski3091 День назад

Hi BLBuddy, Yes maybe take it off and never put it back on, that would be the easiest🤣🤣. Without question it was a difficult job but it did work, which amazed me! Your cable tie trick may work, certainly worth a try. These sort of jobs come up with a lot of good ideas but the washer trick can start you off and I am sure you will come up with alternatives😄. A centre stand is a wonderful addition to any bike, shame to take it off!

@BIBuildy 23 часа назад

@@normski3091 Ha! I keep banging my shin against the foot portion of the center stand every time I step off the bike. I'm getting to the point where I think I might just remove it for good. I almost never use the center stand otherwise, so maybe I'll do it. As soon as I do, then I'll need it for something.

@normskichanneltwo635 22 часа назад

Actually on my 1250GS I never could get it on the centre stand…so you do have a point🥳 Now I have a Goldwing, which is about the same weight as a Crnturian tank, but easy peasy to get on the centre stand…thank you Honda 🎉