BMW E92 M3 | Future Collectible? 

Not true its just a counter point. If you want a pure design you have to go to more purpose built cars. There are way better luxury cars that do everything better. There are better sports cars, but the magic of the M3 is that it blends both. But in that quest it loses something. I was talking about this with a guy from ABT in regards to washers and dryer combos from LG. One device that does washing and drying, except it doesnt do either as well as seperate units. Its for people who want convenience or don't have the space. These mixed purpose cars have same problems as other things we use and buy. All season tires, low fat lattes, soy hot dogs etc.

@@savagegeese Did you end up buying the LG pair?

@@savagegeese This is what I keep telling my mom about those 3-in-1 shower soaps! She just doesn't get it!

@@savagegeese I am biased as I drive an F80 M3 and love having a family four-door that hauls ass on track (I'm a beginner still). I just think that there's a certain special place for cars like this, which is why fast wagons exist as well. Cars are always a compromise, like other things in life.

GT2 RS doesn't try to be anything other than a sports car. It helps it does that better than almost every car out there

That goober Matt is just too much to take.

Understed comment

Mark is not afraid to show emotions regardless of being a lean mean fighting machine. And I respect that.

Lol

Mark is an android.

Murano Cabriolet* lol

Don't forget the Ariel Atom.

LOL.

Is the Rouge a new model? Only available in red.

Murano for weekends and Rogue for commanding respect.

You probably always heat your oil up and don’t constantly redline right? Is yours a manual as well? I have 98 and am thinking about changing around 110-120

Same ..new from 2009 . I’m in New Zealand. It’s a masterpiece. It’s an original M car ! When M meant the Motorsport division of BMW.

do you have two change the rod bearings on a regular basis or is it a one time fix? because thats really the only thing turning me of of buying one of these because I don't wanna have to spend 3 grand on changing rod bearings on a regular basis

@@Person-cv9dj one time with new spec bearings at about 60k miles or 100k kms

@@khangsingchopel6443 I pretty much never redline. Less than 2k on repairs in like 4 years. 80k miles. Always laugh out fucking loud when I hear non owners preach to me about unreliability.

Shut up before they go up even more! 😅😪

Only M3 with V8 kinda counts as a negative as it became more of a muscle car than sportscar

Not the only v8 M3 🧐

@@stephenwilson2793 the only V8 M3 that was actually sold in reasonable numbers

@@TheImperfectGuy that’s not what most of these videos state tho is it. 🤷🏼‍♂️🧐😂

So many collectible paper weights for all the bills that come with the car. Its a feature. Now all jokes aside, I do think if drivers warm this car up better, use lighter weight oil in colder climates, and baby it, till it warms up much like I do my ISF, I surmise those rod bearings would see a lot less wear. Anecdotal experience but what I've realized about many BMW owners is, new buyers beat their cars hard within warranty, no warm up, no waiting for the engine to get to temp. And then the cars inevitably take a shit years later. If more new owners were gentle on these motors pre warmup, they would prolly hold up better. But dollar for dollar spent, in the M3 one would be maintaining to keep stock power, in the ISF, that money gets you power mods. Can't hate on the M3 but at the same time, that oil weight was just too heavy for a street car. 10w60 is never going to warm up but will do better lap after lap.

who cares, just do them when you buy a car with deferred maintenance

@@hovnojede010101 internet trolls care 😂

I love that people act like rod bearings are the only thing that breaks on this car. It's the MOST catastrophic thing that can break on this car, but far from the only thing that breaks on these cars. Ask me how I know.

@@hamsterbrigade throttle actuators and ICV - that’s it. Fix those and you have a bullet proof S65. Source; owned 2x - racked up over 150,000 miles total over a decade.

Did the dance in 2013 with the M3 coupe competition with the manual. Drove it to Venice Florence Pisa cinque terre Monaco nice Arles and then back to Nice for drop off. By the end I had broken it in and did a pull to 140 mph in France but had to be careful with the speeding cameras. Now that they got rid of the Euro delivery even less reason to get a BMW

@@johnlee5307 for real

THIS is why its worth way less off the lot JK lol

"I need a 3-row SUV right now for the kid I might theoretically have in 5 years"

Costco / Sam's Club has led the demand for huge vehicles. Has nothing to do with women who want to sit up high, safety, or anything.

The most usable 2 seater sports car is the Cayman/Boxster. I traded in my E92 M3 for one and aside from never having to take more than 1 other person to lunch or dinner with me the daily usability was just as good due the trunk and the frunk. Apparently you can even get a set of golf clubs in the trunk if you have the right golf bag.

I didnt know i was going to home depo to pick up "groceries" are there people im getting with each gallon of milk?

In the summer I bring my 1980 fiat spider to the construction site on fridays and can fit a couple tool bags and my pouch in the trunk 🤷🏽‍♂️ it’s like 4 cubic feet.

@Capt Hook maybe it’s just because I’m young but that is starting to show it’s age. The E92 has aged better.

@Capt Hook The CSL is just a e46 m3 with a different bumper and a trunk spoiler. So

I’m with Cap’n. The E92 is all rounded and angular at the same time. Like it can’t make its mind up. M3’s go in order. 1) E30. Fukn bad ass. 2) E36. Like a scalpel. 3) E46. As round as a M3 should ever be.

@@j.3854 With this logic all modern cars would still look like 60s muscle cars.. designs change and the e92 has aged better than the E30, E36, and E46.. Especially when compared to the E6X's 5/7 series.

@@TheRealHypervizor sure it’s better than those atrocities (5/7), but I don’t know anyone saying the girlish look of a E92 is better than the first three M3 designs. Like, it’s not even close. And it has ZERO to do with that bs you stated about muscle cars blah blah. The rear of a E92 is atrocious. All narrow and pouty. The front had stupid angles and a ridiculous hood. The door handles are fat and rounded. Compare a Estoril Blue E36 M3 sedan with Forged Style 24’s. No comparison. A Henna E30 M3. No comparison. A Interlagos Blue E46. No comparison.

Too bad the V10 has/had the reliability of an AUDI LOL

E46 M3 GTR was the first M3 with a V8 😏🧐

@@stephenwilson2793 The E46 M3 had an inline-6.

@@madpistol i missed out the GTR bit 🫣😂

@@stephenwilson2793 Indeed: "The BMW E46 M3 GTR came to life in February 2001 and was the first M3 in the history of the company to feature a V8 engine. The only reason that the BMW M3 GTR was made was to go along with the Le Mans rules stating that any vehicle raced must be produced in certain numbers for a certain length of time before the racing car starts its season. Since the Le Mans M3 GTR was a V8, the road car had to be, as well. To fulfill this rule, BMW put 10 road going M3 GTR models on sale after the 2001 season, for €250,000 each. The road car used a slightly detuned version of the P60 rated at 380 horsepower at 7,000 rpm - complete with dry-sump lubrication and sharply canted radiator with hood venting. Power was transmitted through a racing style twin-disc clutch to a 6-speed manual gearbox and variable locking M differential."

because it's a BMW, duh

Because the 3 series is a way nicer and better car than the Challlenger. I do love both cars though

@@hovnojede010101 And what's the problem with that? Did you not work hard enough in class to have a decent paying job to afford one?

@@jamiefisher1430 it was a sarcastic comment based on mark's words, that one shall not buy an m3 just for its engine but can buy a hellcat like op eluded in their comment. I drive a bmw

@@jamiefisher1430 uh oh guys, make way for the upper middle class white guy who definitely worked super hard (tm) to get that cushy finance job.

At one point i had to daily drive my e90m3 for about 4 months and never once had an issue. Now it sits most of the time but mine has been extremely reliable.

@@Astheros Same here, I daily my E90 M3 and its been reliable. Maintenence costs should be factored in when purchasing the car. If the person not willing to either pay the price or do the work themselves then they shouldn't buy the car. I just need to add a porsche 911 to complete my two car garage.

I've had my 08 E90 M3 with 120k miles for a little over two years and it is almost always daily driven. Never once have I had an issue with any sort of failures. Normal routine maintenance and simply letting it warm up to proper temps has mitigated any issue. I'm thankful that I have not experienced what others have dreaded for years.

@@blvck5979 purchased a used 09 m3. Changed the rod bearings and all fluids and now I cant imagine myself not dailying this car. I cant take off the smile on my face at 6am driving to work!

I also daily mine, driven almost everyday. Rod bearings have been done. And other than being not so great on gas, I don’t see why it can’t be used as a daily or only car. Though I will say picking a clean well maintained example is really important in terms of keeping running costs down.

Burial!

I enjoyed the e39 M5 more but you’re right, this came close. I had the e93 convertible in this so the sound was even better. I do miss it sometimes but they’re fragile cars so I don’t miss all the preventative maintenance and care to keep things right.

@@aussie2uGA I’ve still kept my E39 M5 too!

@@aussie2uGA had the convertible too, with Eisenmann exhausts. Man, that sound. Especially the downshifts, jesus christ. Loved driving it. Just make sure you replace the bearings first thing you do when you get it if it hasn't been done already, then your golden

Same here! I’ve owned an E30, E36 M3, E46 M3, etc etc and my E90 M3 has been far the best.

blowing up in value

If you call BMW's new 4 door coupe-sedan things "GRAN COOP" then it sounds really weird, so I'd imagine it just gets pronounced like that by association

I enjoy it. It's a nice salute to the way the word is properly pronounced in French, and is in England. Only the Americans mangle it.

If you say "coop" you're uncultured.

Settle down... lol

Lol no its not. Terrible reliability, every high school kid can afford a used one and puts fart cans on it. Nothing collectible about it. M135i is the only real collectible BMW.

comments like these is why I can dominate poor ignorant people so easily with inference and common sense

@@VanguardX M135i is an ugly hatchback 4cylinder

​@Vanguard every collectors car is a perfect car with no issues?

@@VanguardX The M135 is a collective but the m3 isn't LMAO. Obviously troll bait.

Only true BMW owners spend more to repair the car than the car is worth.

@@swgdsm #Preach :-)

@@swgdsm Yup! All part of the BMW charm.

I personally know two people who have had their bearings fail. And they are both old people who never hit redline, had the car serviced at the dealership for everything.

@@pinecity3234 Need the old "Italian Tune Up"

Maintenance?

Rod bearings Funny thing is am looking into buying e60 m5 for 14k. Is it a good buy?

Agreed. Had an E90 M3. Succinct and on point with my thoughts exactly.

Agree I had one also. After several BMWs I’ll never buy another. I’m a Porsche fanboy now, currently own 5.

Rod. Bearings.

Like a Ferrari 458

Thank you.

A collectable collectible may be collected at the collectables store.

@@GoldenCroc So close.

@@GoldenCroc wrong

@@feikebeukeboom7726 I dont think so. There are stores named "Collectables", unless you are talking about something else in the sentence?

time to thrown my life savings away brb

@@bayareaomg got mine for $17k now

@@BMWROYAL got an extra one i can buy ?🙃😭

I would rather have a 911, that's what gets the ladies.

@@dragospahontu ladies are temporary, lexus is for ever

@@singular9 that a good line, but the 911 is also forever contrary to popular believe. Obviously the new ones aren't as reliable as the N/A engines.

You also forgot the N52B30 Engine in the 328/30i, its the most reliable modern NA Inline 6 Petrol Engine BMW has ever build!

I have both cars and you are 100% on point with this comment.

@@mirkogiuliano1515 I love the N52. I am in the process of installing the 3 stage intake manifold and AA headers on my 2007 BMW 328i to maximize its power potential while still keeping it naturally aspirated.

It looks cool when it's fresh and that's about it. I hate touching those surfaces even when the car's new, let alone after it's been caked in human slime.

If your not a cheeseburger eating funk boy and drive with greasy hands you too can have nice things...

@@coreywagganer just touching it messes it up. It’s literally a terrible cheap material that makers like porche made popular by charging big sums for cheap material

Not if you clean it regularly and properly.

because it feels nice in hands and offers from grip with both bare hands and racing gloves. maintenance is no different from having a leather steering wheel. takes 20 mins top to clean a alcantara steering wheel. source: have had one for 5+ years and it looks like almost like new

Same here

$50 each for tires? Good luck with such trash rubber.

My money is on Mark.

@@smeegain3657 his cool, but i disagree

Dodge neon srt will appreciate fastest.

True. Especially when we have got lesser of them compared to the 90s.

FYI the e92 series was late 2000s - early 2010s

@@suryamp12 BMW sucks so I’m not caught up on the intricacies of their release years. But thanks for the info

@@suryamp12 e46 is the one he refers to

Only one I'd buy...

Best sounding m3 hands down

@@KAWTELENUH he was right when he said it sounds like a muted GT350. Just sounds amazing...

As an european I prefer crossplane crankshaft V8.

But not much else other than the sound! Try driving a couple of rounds in any track and you need to replace tires, brake pads and rotors after you exit feeling it's too heavy and not so well balanced. With the aftermarket parts you need for this to make it a proper sports car plus rod bearings and throttle actuator preventive fixes you have a lot of options out there. Much better gettng a manual E46 with proper history

The LC500s interior is art

they were noobs and hungry for the sale. it was probably the rod bearings which could have easily been checked. once they're repaced it's great

@@hazardeur not sure but repairs may have been far North of 10gz because they were looking to wholesale it, or sell to a mechanic and no one wanted to buy it. They basically had it parked for a long time. Don't know what they ever even did.... my point is these cars are MONEY PITS!

@@didafm but they are really not. If you are proactive about these two issues, you're pretty secure. Any Porsche etc has higher cost and they have their fair share of stuff not working, too. I just had insurance on my engine and drivetrain and then it's no issue with the E9x's

@@hazardeur rod bearings easily checked? What's this easy procedure that you speak of?

@@cbrooks2767 i wasn't saying the procedure as such is easy. I reckon you have to disassemble the engine to change them. But I ain't no mechanic so I just went to my mech, he did it and it cost a fraction of what it would have if i left the faulty ones in and after a few days you can pick up your car. Easy enough for me, especially if you put it in relation to what could happen.

Im working on big things with ihop.

@@savagegeese 10% off big?

I'd take an E92 M3 over any S550 Mustang besides the GT350 & even then it's close. The Coyote sounds horrible & the MT82 is awful not to mention the interior still sucks. The advantage of the E92 M3 is to my ears it sounds better than the GT350 & the throttle response is waaaay better.