For 99% of drivers, the ISF is more than enough car for daily and fun use. At half the price and considering it's indestructible, the ISF is my preferred option.
@@jaimehurtado356 you'll get there man. I went from an rsx-s to an s2000 8 years ago. Got a 2011 IS350 Fsport 5 years ago and now about about to upgrade the is350 to an ISF for the same reasons you mentioned here. Don't think I'll ever get rid of the s2k though.
Great video well done. I've owned my IS-F since new 10yr now DD for 7yrs its been FBO for 9yrs tune and tuned intake with larger 87mm MAF Housing for 3yrs, koyo radiation, FigsEngineers trans cooler 106k miles running flawlessly had compression test and engine is very healthy. From factory IS-F has forged crank, forged rods, forged lobes, titanium lifters, aluminum heads built and designed by Yamaha F1 designed team. Suspension upgrades from Figs Engineers LCA endlinks, adjustable toe, mega arms solid metal hub bearing and RR Racing LCA, Skikky sway bars, Superpro bushings there more aftermarket support then you maybe aware such as Penkse coilovers, ohlins coilover, Kwv3 coilovers , Airlift3H perfomance suspension etc, Figs Engineers suspension, brakes, bushings and chassis components, Project Mu PS brake pads, Headers catbaback exhaust from all major companies such Borla, Akrapovic exhaust, meistercraft exhaust, JoeZ Exhaust PPE Headers, Skikky Headers etc. RR Racing, suspension components, Tune and Tuned intake their Supercharger from stageI to stage III. 295 in back no problem just have to get right offset for rims. Carbon Fiber steering wheel interior panels, Carbon Fiber Hoods, spoilers, diffusers. You are correct out their for BMW but these aftermarket companies such as FigsEngineers and RR Racing and others produce extremely high-quality parts. Yes only 5100 were shipped to usa roughly 4000 regestered in usa out of over 260 million cars registered. Quick video of steering wheel ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-BRxwbukDv-k.html
Love both cars, I was a Lexus fanboy but traded my IS350 for an F80 Competition as wanted something newer than the ISFs that were around. The practicality of the M3 is awesome, loads of room in the back, seats fold down etc. Coupled with the performance and quality it's hard to match.
Yeah I really do think the Isf is a fun car it’s a little bit more raw and the sounds it makes are great 🙌🏼 but the bmw with how fast it is and the turbo spool and how smooth it is can also be fun in a different way 👍🏼
Great video. I own a ‘12 ISF and an 04 M3. The isf isn’t as good of a track car but damn I don’t have to tow it for out of town events or worry about things breaking in the back of my head. You’re right about thr m3 has ving tons more aftermarket support
Very good review, everyone has different top priorities, mine is dependability & pleasure of driving, my everyday car is my 98' lexus gs400, love it still everyday!!
The ISF is truly the first attempt by Lexus and having lived with it for over a year as a daily driver, with a dark grey exterior, a true sleeper as most don't even know about ISF. M3 would be better on a track, the BMW racing experience would be shining through, but the ISF would be a better daily driver and reliable. I have 285s in the rear without any changes
I've been driving auction while my kids in class for some extra cash plus the chance of getting to drive a cool car. I remember the first time I saw an ISF, I thought hey that's a good looking Lexus so I decided to check it out. I don't know what possessed me to fire it up, like I said I'd never heard of an ISF and very few engines sub 8 cylinders sound good to me. It was a cold morning and I was not expecting what was about to happen when it boomed and growled to life. I sat there stunned for a second OH FUCK YES was about what I was thinking.
@@Scott11078 I have to admit as well, that while I had heard and read about the ISF since the time it was launched (I distinctly remember the first time I saw the quad stacked pipes), when I got into one and started it....it was definitely an experience.
Both cars are awesome but I would take the M3. Your F80 build is very tasteful. It’s how I would mod it if I had one. Some feedback on your video. When talking about the Lexus you showed clips of the BMW and when talking about the BMW you showed clips of the Lexus. I’m enjoying your content. Keep it up.
Lol thanks man I saw that too but I ran out of time to be honest I wanted to get the video up before leaving to work, next time I’ll just save it for the next day so I can take more time on editing 👍🏼 I realized that also when I watched it later at work.
Had an ISF - rare is not good. Less parts available means cost of parts are way more. Bent a wheel and one 2011 19x11 factory rim was $2k. Same gas tank size as the 6 cylinder meant range is only like 240 miles with full tank. Other than that amazing car. BMW eh I live in OC - they are played out so much it didn’t interest me but also a nice car. Thanks for making the vid 👍
Good thing that boost logic is making a supercharger kit for the 2urgse other than rr racing. There's 2 other companies that tune lexus but RR is obviously the most well known.
That will be nice man, the whole time I have owned my Isf there has been many companies promising products for our cars but they never follow through I got tired of waiting. It will be nice to see some options out there. That’s my favorite thing about my M the options are endless the tuners are endless. More support for the Lexus community would definitely attract more ppl!
You are right man had to look it up after 👍🏼 that’s impressive with how much bigger in person the M3 is. It looks heavier then it is. Thanks for the support 🙌🏼 i was surprised you were and OC cars and coffee with all the other F guys
@@Earache. that’s not really the problem to be honest, the problem is no one can tune the ecu to be able to support a turbo kit many ppl have tried all but one company has failed. No major tuner offers tunes for this car because they can’t figure out the ecu unfortunately
I owned a highly modified IS-F and then went RC-F. I now own a 2019 ZCP F80 M3. Not sure why you said that stock for stock they are near in performance. A FBO will have a hard time keeping up with a stock F80 much more a ZCP.
@@unknownsource4359 the Isf, the v8 sounds mixed with the more raw feel of the car is more thrilling plus the power is very manageable were the M3 is much faster in every way but much smoother so it doesn’t feel as exciting or as fast as you are really going so you have to be careful
Lol, you're completely wrong with Lexus/Toyota not having a heritage in racing. Lexus won 24 hours at Daytona for 3 years in a row starting in 05. Lexus as a manufacturer team also raced the IS300 for a couple years starting in 2001 in Grand Am cup. They also raced in Super GT with their SC430 before the ISF came out. Yes, BMW and Lexus both have heritage in racing. The ISF is heavier because it was a couple Lexus engineers that got together afterhours/as a side project and pieced the ISF together with a small budget. Not like the M3 which was engineering focused. Its apparent in the suspension pieces where the ISF uses more steel arms.
Nice! It’s a great upgrade I had an oil cooler upgrade also but I sold it. I think the Isf is an amazing car how it comes for the factory but it’s hard for myself not to want more it’s a never ending game lol
@@jaimehurtado356 surely can’t argue with that bro. The option is 10k to run 650whp+ but that’s about the limit on a stock block. Build the block and maybe run 750-800whp spraying. I liked your video a lot cause it really just breaks down not weaknesses but limitations. Nice work fellow F owner
@@djardy07 thanks man and that 10k not including headers/exhaust/ stuff like that as well it adds up quick! And if you don’t know how to install it yourself that’s another 5k at least! They do sound amazing SC tho it would be nice!!’ Maybe some day. I appreciate your support man 🙌🏼
@@jaimehurtado356 which vendor was this from? I’m collecting every trunk spoiler and wing available since I can’t make up my mind and keep switching them out haha
So, i have the e92 m3 and the maintenance has been minimal except oil changes are expensive and ive done sone big ticket items but paid no more than 1400 over 4 - 5 years of ownership. Still need to do rod bearings preventatively. I definitely say you made the more safe bet with your car. As for which is better, it honestly depends on the driver and what they prefer. Btw. Congrats man i see those ads!!!!!!! Im almost there. Few more subs and ill be there!!
That’s great man! I’m glad to hear your experience has been good I also think it contributes to the driver and how well they take car of their car and how they drive 👍🏼 I think the E92s sound great and look great Thanks! You will get there soon you have been posting often 👍🏼
You also could have included some more information that aids the isf, which is... 2011+ the isf got suspension tweaks which has made drastically handling improvements as well as the cluster in the dash was changed. The RR Racing company has kits for it where its latest supercharger kit "rr780 kit" makes up to 800 crank hp! WHP was about mid to high 6XXs their website has all the #s and their lowest setup makes a bit above 500whp! Or 620 to the crank i think! And all were driven 9k plus miles and on many types of terrains and tracks! On stock internals and transmission with no reliability issues.
Yeah that’s enough to have it’s own video, the difference between the Isf years I just wanted to compare my Isf vs my M3 there’s also many other M3s with more upgrades from the factory like M3 Comp, M3 CS etc 👍🏼 as far as the Isf I knew a few people personally that had to have their engines rebuilt unfortunately. I know there are ppl that have great success with them tho and they sound amazing Supercharged and it’s very unique to have a SC Isf
@@jaimehurtado356 all good, just wanted to see if i can keep up with the builds other than in youtube. either way love the quality of the videos man keep pushing them out🤙🏻
@@jaimehurtado356 i am in the same bubble kind of, really want an isf just something about F’s that they have a special place in my heart, but also really want a f8x. after watching your comparison video, power isn’t always the best, and the isf definitely will feel way more raw and quicker as you said.
Yes there is, when the car came out paddle shifters were still pretty new but they definitely should have improved the response time with the later Isf models! RR racing tune does improve the shifts though but still doesn’t compare to modern cars
only at lower rpm, at higher rpm it’s literally instant. 0.1 shift times which is still impressive for a torque converter auto. downshifts are also crazy quick, more responsive than brand new mustangs. ive driven both cars and when ur pushin it the dct isnt that much faster