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BMW S1000R 2014 DDC re-spring for heavy rider 

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During winter I had my bikes suspension completely re-done for a 100kg/220lbs rider. Talking a about why I decided to get the suspension done, how I did it, parts used and initial impression of the bike having ridden it 4-500km.
You can follow my story in this forum post.
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Комментарии : 18   
@yellecc
@yellecc 5 лет назад
Thank you for the video. I have the opposite problem. I'm too light for my S1000RR and I was considering respring it.
@jeremyr62
@jeremyr62 4 года назад
The spring stiffness units are N/mm. You are quoting units of torque (Nm).
@hamad1979
@hamad1979 4 года назад
thanks for the video .. I have the same bike .. I suffer when cornering .. the bike wags a lot .. I got that wobble that scares me .. any advice ?
@callmepurplehayes
@callmepurplehayes 5 лет назад
Hey man. Appreciate your videos on this. Getting my '15 done this week w same fork springs and the tractive dynamics rear shock. Can't wait to see how it gets on after the change. BTW, what's your bar end setup? I too have the retro reverse mirrors, but would like to add the heavyweight ends like yours appears to have.
@850bimmer
@850bimmer 5 лет назад
Thank for the kind words. I have simply had a 25mm "spacer" machined in stainless steel that fits the mirrors (diameter 28mm) and installed longer bolts and the stock weights. Each spacer adds about 100grams of weight to the 300gram stock weight. That combined with the weight of the mirrors themselves has more or less completely eliminated the vibrations stock bikes have.
@InteractiveIdea
@InteractiveIdea 5 лет назад
I m 250lb rider on a z1000(naked liter like urs) with stock maxed out suspension. What do you recommend I do on 1k budget to improve my ride?
@Sasa9464
@Sasa9464 6 лет назад
bimmer how is suspension working? r u happy with it now
@850bimmer
@850bimmer 6 лет назад
Sasa Milosavljevic sorry for my late reply, I’ve been on holiday. I’m much happier than with the stock suspension for sure, still tinkering with the adjustments to fine tune it. Sadly due to work I have not been able to ride more than 2000km so far this year. But I still consider it to be money well spent.
@satchitysatch
@satchitysatch 5 лет назад
Thank you for this video I was starting to think it was me! I collected my s1r on the second of March 2019 brand new out the wraper and yes it did feel fine during the 600 mile run in period but at 6ft 5 inches and 20 stone i have quickly found the limits of the standard suspension as I have now done 1650 miles on the bike in less than two months. Looks like its going to have to make a visit to my local suspension specialist! Do you think the rear shock could get away with just a re spring?
@850bimmer
@850bimmer 5 лет назад
Hi. Yeah, us heavier people quickly start to struggle with the suspension on these bikes. I did re-spring the forks, and I had wilbers rebuild my rear shock. if you check my channel there are a few more suspension videos with all the things I done.
@512460
@512460 Год назад
I know you've now moved on from this bike. However do you think it really matters if you bottom out. The reason I ask this is because there's a lot of cheaper bikes that don't have any adjustability in the front forks and minimal in the rear some only having preload, now with that surely this means a lot of these bikes definitely bottom out. So my question is it that import to fix? because if you bought a cheaper bike you wouldn't have that adjustment anyways and most likely would be bottoming out. So why buy an expensive bike that you can adjust these thing to then be too heavy for the oem spring set up. Also I feel like this information should be shown or easily accessible as I deem it rather important.
@850bimmer
@850bimmer Год назад
The thing is that once you bottom out, the tire has to take up the remaining damping force. The problem is greater for the front than the rear. Imagine breaking into a corner, the fork is fully compressed, then you hit a bump, there is nothing to take up that bump. Going straight you will just hear a "pinging noise" from the fork and feel the bump in your arms as the forks go completely stiff. If you are in the middle of the corner with the bike leaned over, there is a good chance the front wheel will skip when the fork goes stiff, possibly leading to you loosing the front end grip and crash. The rear is less critical, but obviously the metal parts inside the shock hitting each other is not good. Most bikes suspension is designed for a 75kg rider plus 10kg of gear. If you are 100kg plus gear, you are 25kg heavier than the designed weight. It is therefore recommended to change the spring if you are a heavier rider, even on cheaper bikes with no adjustment to the suspension. For normal road riding, you will probably not bottom out even at 100kg, it's when you are riding hard this happens. I guess to give you a quick answer, regardless of your weight, you probably won't need to do anything on a bike that is not ridden hard. But if you do see that you bottom out from time to time, be aware that it could cause you to crash, the shock can get damaged and you will build up metal shaving quicker in the shock oil making them require service sooner. Another thing when modifying your suspension, start with the rear shock first, getting the rear set up correctly will usually improve how the forks work. I managed to get 5-6mm less compression of the front fork on my current bike, just by slowing down the rebound on the rear, slowing down the weight transfer to the front during braking.
@512460
@512460 Год назад
@@850bimmer appreciate your response (greatly detailed and speedy response) Cheaper to loose weight loool
@512460
@512460 Год назад
@@850bimmer sorry I had a sleep and came up with an additional question.. Why do they set the springs for 1x 85kg rider, however they sell every bike with pillion pegs and seat. This doesn't seem to make sense. As adding an additional person or luggage will exceed the suspension weight that they set the bike at. So technically the bike isn't suited to take pillions or luggage. Unless the assumption is that the avg person weights 40kgs so going 2 up brings weight to thier limit of 80kg. Or am I missing something.
@850bimmer
@850bimmer Год назад
@@512460 No you are right. They use the universal 75kg rider plus 10kg in gear during the design. If you look in the manual, it will typically list a setting for single rider, and a different one for with luggage or passenger. This will improve things, but its a compromise, as you are not expected to ride like this all the time. The handling will not be great but better than if left unchanged. The Electronic suspensions usually have a "two-up" setting, BMW have a "two helmet" setting and it sometimes will ask you to put the spring preload closer to max. Cheap bikes will typically only have a preload adjustment that you are supposed to crank up in those cases. My current bike has one default setting and one for luggage/passenger, that indicates preload and compression/rebound damping for the two conditions. The way I got around it on my current bike is that I have it set closer to the luggage/passenger settings to compensate for my extra weight, its not ideal, but it works for sporty street riding.
@512460
@512460 Год назад
@@850bimmer appreciate the response yea also I guess with the bmw you can use to two up feature as a single rider to squeeze that little bit out. Haha Obviously again not really ideal but more like a band-aid lol
@kenengrie
@kenengrie 5 лет назад
this is most likely the cause of my crash with my s1000r, i'm 115kg. I've never even touched the original settings.
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