Bob Patterson | The Seinfeld Curse Files 

"Onions... Who the hell is chopping ONIONS in here?" (British guy doing my frankly faultless Costanza) Thank you, that was beautiful, stay safe mon ami... 🇬🇧🏆🇺🇸

Friendly reminder that Jerry Seinfeld was dating, and likely had sexual relations with, a 17 year old girl while filming Seinfeld.

@@venator0405 And? Have you never opened a history book?

@@venator0405 ok...

@@venator0405 reminder that one of your playlists are nazi March music

Gold, pure gold

Great advice & the route to its application is right there in the direct center of said advice.

@@davidhutchinson7888 It’s good Jerry! GOLD!

Me too. Such a funny line.

Oscar is in both so thats a thing lol

The office almost didn't make it in the beginning.

@@ZoneGlazed Yeah, the office was almost cancelled right after the duwalhi episode. It was 40 year old virgin becoming a hit and them making, shit, that long already, that star character more likeable. They even changed his hairstyle.

God I wish that could have been the case...

@@ZoneGlazedwe almost got a better world There are like ten funny clips from the office in it’s entirety, that’s why every meme from the office is only like one of a handful of different things. The rest of the time the show is just boring and I’ve never made it through more than a few episodes

woah you know his real name??? 😮😮😮are you a real life friend of George from Seinfeld???🤔🤔🤔 or are you just a superfan??? 🤯🤯🤯

The cast was unbelievably annoying.

@@snakelama He's the Claw asshole, show some respect.

@@thedrewdog he’s not going to fuck you

He has a semi recurring role in Young Sheldon where he plays a drama teacher/real estate agent that’s really funny. George was by far the funniest most interesting character on Seinfeld . There were other high profile actors that tried for it. I think Jerry originally wanted Chris Rock and I’ve heard that Danny DeVito was thought about. Both probably would have worked but Jason took it too a whole nother level. Danny ended up in the perfect role anyway

That must make for interesting conversations. "What comes to mind when you think of September 11?" "BOB BOB BOB BOB B-B-BOB BOB BOB BOB. . ."

Alexander has suggested that 9/11 changed the national temper such that people weren’t as much in the mood for “Bob Patterson”’s comedy as they otherwise would have been. So, add *that* to the possible list of culprits for this show’s early demise.

@@brettfawcett2306 That makes sense. Something else nobody mentioned after 9/11 was that "because I got high" song.

@@brettfawcett2306 it Is around the time single cams became big and multi cams not on cbsdied

wat.

Duckman was great

RebelTaxi has a great video on it

Cornfed rocked and then became the Sprint guy.

Yeah, that was indeed a great show. Jason said in an interview last year that they were looking at rebooting the series, which I would love to see

@@eddiedingle767 Thanks I'll check it out

He lost so many to Kramer! (Also Niles Crane)

"George is gettin' upset!"

Is your friend Bob Sacamano?

I’m pretty sure that was Art Vandelay. He’s a famous architect. Don’t feel bad, very easy to confuse the two

so the boy asked for his autograph and Jason turned him down, and that is your anecdotal example of him being a great guy in real life?

Fr lol

Another person cursed by the show that will forever be bigger than them. Him and like 95% of the cast

@@funnybone6149 excuse me, oscar stays booked and busy

Right? With his name tag also reading "Oscar"

@@dm9489 opportunity wasted there for a guest starring role (Jason Alexander in the Office)

The Human Fund!

I don’t know exactly how such things work, but I’m guessing that financially, it was more profitable to create a new character.

Serenity now!

Bruh that's genius 🤣🤣🤣

Ohh snap that would have been perfect

How I feel when a film has a minimum *four* screenwriters 😬

That's 1/8 as many producers on Picard.

@@BaranoffIsaac the NBC executive was correct, Seinfeld was hot, a true Kramer sitcom would get numbers, Michael Richard's playing a tall normal detective wasn't going to work.

Friends had at least 3.

I don't know. When you take the most popular side character in a series and give them their own spinoff, especially if they're the wackiest characters, you really set the show up with expectations it can't possibly follow. The wacky characters need the more restrained characters to work off of. Imagine if instead of Frasier, they spun off Cliff or Norm. It would all be a "sounded like a good idea at the time" when they ran out of wacky things for them to do. A Kramer series would sound like an obvious success, but without Jerry, George, and Elaine to keep him in check, his wacky misadventures being the entire show would get stale. And that would also affect the new cast members. Would we either have stand ins of the Seinfeld gang to balance him out, or are they going to make him the straight man of the group and give him even wackier, cartoonish characters?

Agreed. That duck was such a funny, arrogant scumbag.

Great show!

Unfortunately still a flop. I love that show

@@zacharycollett5456 what makes you say it was a flop? 70 episodes and a fan base that loves it.

It blows my mind it isn't streaming anywhere. They did reruns on Comedy Central for a while like 20 years ago.

@Stellvia Hoenheim I do

So relatable like when you have to change the tape on a girls answering machine because you left embarrassing messages on it? Timeless!

@Stellvia Hoenheim Eww, Anti Semitic

@@TheWinstonSlip it will be year 2050 and that wont get old

@Stellvia Hoenheim Or if you can relate to getting caught... by your mother.

Was... then the true Costanza emerged in Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm.

@@themonkeyhand That show doesn't count because it was on cable.

@@TheTenCentStory Well, I'll take that as we're both right then!

@@themonkeyhand Cable shows just have more freedom. You wouldn't compare a Netflix mini-series to a sitcom on a standard TV or an HBO show. They have different standards.

I believe it's pronounced Cartwright lol.

Was thinking the same thing. And Alexander seems like he had a great feel for the character. Had to be something political behind the scenes that sunk it.

Honestly it's just the premise of Frasier

@@PureWaterGuy I mean their office looks like Frasiers but that’s about it

@@DrunkenSlob He's a therapist, Bob is a self help guru. I get what the guy's saying, but its a stretch.

And Frasier isn’t really neurotic outside of a few episodes, for the most part he’s just a snobbish prick

Very true. The first 2-3 episodes of Seinfeld and Cheers are virtually unwatchable. Imagine if they were cut off after just 5 episodes?

No network exec willing to take a chance.

TV execs never learn cos TV execs wouldnt have commisioned Seinfeld in the first place if theyd been paying full attention to it, Seinfeld the show really slipped under the radar amidst a sea of family sitcoms. And you find that with just about anything fresh or unique TV executives are the last ones to realise what they have, the same went for Monty Pythons Flying Circus, the BBC took no notice of it til it started getting complaints.

"The Office" is a rare example of where they did a scenario kind of what you're describing. The first season had low ratings and wasn't well received critically, and they were going to cancel it. The only reason they gave it a second season was "The 40-Year-Old Virgin" was coming out and they thought that Steve Carrell's new boost in popularity might help the show. (It was also retooled a fair bit with the writing). The gamble paid off big time.

Friends has more episodes than Seinfeld. Friends is dog shit.

...though TBF, Police Squad spawned a movie trilogy.

@@madmaxandrade fair.

and both Bob Patterson and The Michael Richards Show could gone great if they mirror that same formula, the original concepts work better as movie series!

I agree, good actor

Same here. He’s been in a couple of episodes of Young Sheldon and he’s great.

Mosquito coast

Agreed. One wonders what tv execs think while watching movie actors play completely different roles in multiple movies. Good actors become the role they’re playing and can change between them. George Clooney isn’t even a great actor, but Monument Men is a far cry from a Coen brothers’ film, which is a far cry from Ocean’s anything. Audiences can keep up if the actors can act persuasively.

Yeah it’s like the execs were still playing to the mindset of tv consumers from the 60s and 70s. The audience wants to see new and different things now.

Seinfeld wouldn't have worked if they cut the cord after 5 episodes. These shows would have all found their audiences and voices. Veep was kept on the air because it was pushing a political agenda and had a woman in it. Plus Julia most likely has more pull than Alexander and Richards. Good show but that is most likely why.

@@johntallanger4036 Veep was kept on the air because it had great writing and was funny. HBO isn't in the business of keeping bad shows that don't pull ratings on their network. I've had a few HBO shows that I loved get cancelled prematurely. HBO rarely misses.

@@DPMusicStudio lol

Yes i would love this now

They also did the private bathroom bit in Curb

@@jjryan1352 That was a takeoff from George quitting because his boss wouldn't let him use his private bathroom.

That sad bass line had be cracking up

Pepperoni is a violently murdered Living being that anted to live with emotions and feelings. Go vegan.

He absolutely is. I’ve always felt that jerry is actually the worst

@@pilapila183 I’ve thought that too. To be fair, Jerry’s just a comedian - he’s good enough in that he understands setup and payoff, the rule of 3, absurdity, timing, etc.

@@pilapila183 Jerry actually said this when he gave a speech when Julia won the Mark Twain Prize for comedy.

Yeah

Yes

If only

Bee Movie was awful. Good for him that he wasn’t in it.

Omg das sooo cool!!!!!

Veep is so good

Sweet profile pic

Agree about Julia, but she DID have one forgotten failure--Watching Ellie. Asked him to cover that one in my above comment, so we'll see what happens!

Julia just got lucky tbh.

She also has her billionaire dad backing her so she could be choosy with her jobs as Jason and Michael have to continue to work to make a living.

Well said

A few years after that he did a show called “Listen Up”, and I thought the same thing. He’s still playing George.

@@fstrgray82 actually he was playing Tony Kornheiser in that one

He said in the video that Jason himself admittedly brought a lot of George's character to the show, so no, the networks weren't exactly forcing it to be another George Costanza

@@Echidneys Apparently Jason wasn't quite ready to let go of George. Maybe what he should have done instead was ask Jerry if he could use the character in his own spin-off, but maybe he did and Jerry said no.

A George divided against itself cannot stand!

@@davidgalinat4257 Georges colliding

I loved that about the reunion. Cheryl starts liking Jason Alexander, and Larry is just like that's not Jason thats George, that's me lol.

So what you're saying is "Sorry, we've already got a George" ?

When Joe said that the final episode that aired was just pure George and then he showed the scene where Bob Patterson was complaining about other people using his restroom, I thought to myself that he actually reminded me more of Larry David there.

he just went back to bunk tier garbo standup, like he always wanted.

Classic

"What is this?" "We're trying out a new formula, Scandals and Animals!"

I watched it a couple nights ago because my partner didn't remember it and we both were in stitches! I love that seinfeld holds up

and now also part of the MCU

@@johansvensson833 she's in the MCU?

Veep is fantastic. Not only because of the speed of the gags but for how accurately it portrays how politics actually happens behind the scenes.

@@jjryan1352 The Thick of It is much better though, Veep is a bit disappointing after it.

New Adventures of Old Christine was great.

Lovely observation, I was getting mild Frasier vibes too

Haha i don't think George ever had any leftovers!! Munch a bunch portly guy.

Yeah, I'd say one of the many reasons for this show's failure was that it somewhat seemed like a Frasier ripoff.

Fraiser was by far the most annoying character on Cheers. The only good part of his spin-off was his dad's dog.

@@tearfulsmiles9901 tell us how you really feel 😂

He has a recurring role in Young Sheldon as a drama teacher/real estate agent that’s really funny

LOL. I love what you said... "Make no sense but it is true."... I get that! Seinfeld HAS no soul... "No hugs no learning."

Same here man!

and Shallow Hal.

He has a recurring role in Young Sheldon as a drama teacher/real estate agent

and Dunston Checks In

I like it! And if it flops we can pitch it to Japan!

Pat skits were pretty funny imo

@@Echidneys exactly, skits. A full movie? Nope

Hot take: The Critic was better than most of The Simpsons. I adore, ADORE that show

@PestoMayo The Critic hit the ground running, as The Simpsons was also at its peak at that time. I know people hate Al Jean, but it is a marvelous show. A rare example of a program that got even better after introducing a permanent new character/live interest during its second season “We have a saying back home in Tennessee. Be a mensch, not a schmendrick.”

@@J.S.3259 Al Jean?

John O'Hurley?

@@ExplorerDS6789 yes

@@wstine79 Not to mention, Joe said "four actors" at the beginning, surely he doesn't mean Jerry too? Jerry pretty much retired after Seinfeld ended, and he only emerged to make Bee Movie.

Bryan Cranston aka Tim Whatley has done pretty well

He's also hosted the revival of To Tell The Truth . Also Bob Odenkirk played Elaine's boyfriend and is doing pretty well.

Julia broke the curse with Veep

She had another long running show before veep and after Seinfeld... New Christine

I highly doubt he's poor. Seinfeld re-runs started before the show even ended and never stopped.

He was in Everybody Hates Chris as well

@@salamisumo2 The thing with Julia is that she did something the others didnt; she didnt play Elaine. Which was always the issue, Jason was still playing George, and Michael was still playing Kramer.

Yeah I think they did that on purpose thinking it would be some kind of viral “secret” that would spread among the subset who (hee hee hee) get it. Backfired horribly.

Excellent idea to use a toupee.

Neither had I. I wasn’t watching a lot of tv back then.

Not to mention that even if he retread his George Contanza persona, nowadays nostalgia for Seinfeld would play in favor of that.

Bob the RU-vidr

Maybe in comparison to Gene Wilder's Start the Revolution Without Me which is also a take on The Corsican Brothers?

Cool comparison. That's gold yszman. Gold!

@@jjryan1352 Well if I can go further into my Donald / George comparison, which I just thought of now. (and yes I am going more into comic book Donald than cartoon Donald) But an argument one can make, that Frank was George's Uncle Scrooge. And to a lesser extent and I admit this a big stretch, that Loyd Brawn is George's Gladstone.

I feel like that's a common trope. The Comic Trio.

Ha!! Now that’s old school

Yeah that was a great one

"What's a Babu Bhatt?" 🤣

@@jjryan1352 he was a recurring character on Seinfeld he owned a restaurant and was Jerry’s neighbor

@@bjones8470 whooooooooosh

I’ve seen a few episodes of both and you are absolutely right. Bob Patterson has its charm; after the pilot, The Michael Richards show is nearly unwatchable.

Kramer was a fun over the top character but we didn’t need any more of him and that’s Richard’s main schtick, that really physical comedy. I really liked him on Fridays and was delighted when I saw him on Seinfeld but was a little disappointed that the character was so small. Once the show started taking off and he had more freedom to play Kramer the way he wanted it was great.

Not even when they play them for so long. Look at Mark Hamill.

Michael Richards isn't talented.

@@parlinmains To be Fair at this point he Is More well known as the joker too, and he Is even better in that role

Exactly they really ran with that format

Love the hei pfp

Indeed. I still watch that movie whenever it comes on television even as an adult since it has a certain kind of charm that endeared it to me in spite of all the mixed reviews it garnered from critics upon its release.

Dunston Check In is underrated as hell.

I think it was actually the hair piece. When he put it on he was no longer George

@@jamesburke2759 Wait. He had hair in that movie? Pretty sure I remember him looking just like he did in Seinfeld, though I did look it up and sure enough, Jason’s sporting a pretty obvious toupee in that film. Either I’m misremembering the film or it’s yet another Mandela Effect, just sayin’. 👽🛸

James Burke Haven't seen it--I know it's a comedy, but does he play a serious role?

I used your great Wiki page for research! Particularly the link to the archived Bob Patterson website. Thanks so much for archiving that stuff. I can email you the Bob Patterson image if you like. I found it on a Google deep dive.

@@HatsOffEntertainment Oh my god that's so cool! And you're very welcome! I found that website from that promo you included at the beginning of the vid. Totally email it to me, I'd love it! Where should I give my email?

@@cinnamongeek have you done others?

@@bjones8470 done other what? done other articles? Sorry I’m not sure what you’re asking me

@@HatsOffEntertainment Can you still send me that image? I’ll give you my email