Bombardier Launches Global 8000 and Flirts with Supersonic Speeds - AIN 

This is not a rabbit, this is the exact same hare as before with a caption that reads "new". The only change are new placards that show an increased maximum speed (that the plane cannot reach except in a dive anyway) and indicate the maximum quantity of fuel allowed. That's it. The 'upgrade kit' for the 7500 will likely only be a set of new cockpit and refuelling point indicators.

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I'm sure you will beable to steal a flight on one in the future if you really want to.....haha

Sua idade amigo? Esse negócio de limite deveria ser na faixa dos 70 ou 75 anos, vejo muitos formados com 50 anos e as vezes 20 anos de experiência em uma área faltando 10 ou 15 anos para se aposentar e a idade dificulta isso deveria pular para 70 ou 75 dependendo da área de atuação, por exemplo se for na área da segurança privada até 80 porque é um trabalho mais tranquilo etc.. aviação se tiver 70 com saúde tranquilo, seja engenharia, medicina, ou trabalhos leves.

Obviously you'll have to go slower to acheive 8000 NM (like the G800). But that fantastic wing offers you the flexibility of flying up to Mach 0.94, "or" up to 8000 NM. And still landing at a very safe slow speed - with much better lateral wind tolerance than the competition...

@@erictremblay4940 that is true. Obviously, anybody who can afford to buy or lease one, will be given info on typical flight profiles. For those of us in the political space defending private aircraft services, as distinct from the 'public' airline services, this service information, such as the flight profile to fly 8000 km is very useful.

Nope. The Mach 0.94 thing that is. The plane CANNOT cruise at M 0.94, it is limited by the engine thrust to the same high speed cruise as before, Mach 0.90. The 'change' is that you can *dive* at M 0.94 instead of Mach 0.925 without voiding the warranty.

@@vincentgoudreault9662 so, a marketing gimmick. They are testing at over M1.0 - must be diving as well. Due to wing shape, airspeed over the wing varies in the transonic zone with Mach 1 occuring over part of the wing. So, testing above Mach 1 proves the plane for a number of emergency scenarios, and they are saying it is safe to descend at M0.94.

@@peteregan3862 Well, duh! Yes, it was in a dive. One of my former colleague (from the Loads & Dynamics group) told me, a couple days ago, that he was aware of OTHER aircraft that exceeded Mach 1 in dive tests years ago (not sure if it was before the company was bought by Bombardier -- we old timers go back 40+ years...); so that is not even novel. What is new is bragging about it as if it was a selling point. And descending at Mach 0.94 instead of Mach 0.925 is only 1.5% faster, and could not be sustained anyway. Again: pointless and futile.

But they are not. Lagging that is. Gulfstream is getting ready with the G700, with a longer, wider and taller cabin. And it is most likely going to have just a bit more range than the *relabelled* Global 7500, since they can bide their time refining the product, being delayed with the certification following the introduction of new rules after the 737MAX mess. The Global is just this, a relabelling, the aircraft is so much the same that G7500 already in service can be 'upgraded' to -8000 with a service bulletin; they merely update the placards that say "do not exceed M 0.925" with those that sat "Mach 0.94" (which makes no difference since the plane cannot fly that fast except in a dive anyway), and allow the fuel tank to be filled with a bit more jet fuel. There is zero upgrade here; even worse, none is possible in the foreseeable future since Bombardier has sold off or laid off all their design engineers.

Gulfstream is offering .95 cruise on their 400, 500, 600, 700 and 800, if I'm not mistaken. They announced it a few months ago. It's actually Bombardier that's late to the party.

@@cavaleer Gulfstream is NOT offering 0.95 CRUISE on ANYTHING. The G650 and ER,, the G700, and the G800 are all legally certified for 0.90 mach high speed cruise, 0.85 normal cruise, and 0.925 Mach Mmo (maximum operating limit-speed). 0.94 Mach is the highest certified Mmo in the purpose-built business jet industry which recently bombardier got certification for (for the plane in the video).

@@vincentgoudreault9662 The G700 has already been certified and is being readied for delivery. Their “several inches” longer and taller cabin g700 does 7500 nm maximum range, which is lower than the Global 7000’s 7700nm (note that the Global 7500 was launched 4 years ago). In addition, the Gulfstream G800 does 8000nm range but has the same dimensions as the G650. The only areas Gulfstream seems to be “innovating” in are the types of wood veneers available for the tables on board and the different colors of lighting inside the plane. In a couple of years dassault will launch the falcon 10x which will have a larger cabin than both global 7000/8000 and the G700 and will do 7500nm+. Gulfstream seems to have peaked with the G650 and now it seems like the company hides behind a veneer of respectability under which everything is all pretty underwhelming.

@@14thegr8 Sorry to rain on your parade, but: Gulfstream warned that G700 certification - planned for the fourth quarter of 2022 - could be delayed by 3 to 6 months due to the new FAA software validation requirements. Delayed certification might not only interrupt the start of G700 deliveries; it could also affect future Gulfstream projects.-- May 18, 2022 As for the range, it is a matter of being allowed to fill the tanks. Already, the G650 had plenty of unused space for fuel (as a former colleague who went to work for Gulfstream told me) hence the 650ER. And filling more fuel to extend the range is what the Global is doing now; there is nothing preventing Gulfstream for doing it again.

That’s literally the only aspect where they’re still behind Gulfstream and their humongous windows

@@dragonage200 considering passenger comfort is a priority on a business aircraft, I'd say tiny vs big windows is a major consideration.

I always say, Bombardier should've use the fuselage from the previous Global 8000 concept. It's the right size.

@@anthonyc8499 Foot room is more important for most passengers than window size.

@@dragonage200 No, where did you get that? The latest Gulfstream cabin is longer, wider and taller than the Global 7500/8000. The G700 is likely going to best the range of the Global, and since the fuselage is wider, it can even stand being stretched, something the Global cannot have anymore (not that it matters much, since Bombardier has sold off or laid-off all their design engineering capacity the last few years, so there is no one left to make a new airplane anyway)

Nope. The G700 will likely match, and perhaps exceed, the Global in terms of range. It already bests it in terms of fuel consumption and cabin length, width and height. The Global uses the exact same fuselage cross section that first flew in 1978 with the Challenger. The Gulfstream uses the new fuselage developed for the G650 (first flight 2009).

You're obviously unaware of the months old debut of the G800 and .950 cruise. Check it out.

@@cavaleer G800 is only M.925. And 1 less living space

Welp maybe there will be another G700ER

Yes it is max speed.

Maximum do not exceed. Which means it is not a speed it can reach flying level anyway, only in a dive.

They just put a sticker on the inside of the cockpit changing the speed limit and do a software update.

Engine and winds swap

It will be SAF 100% capable by the 2025 launch date - so capable of no petroleum (word means from rocks).

It runs on money. Lots of money.

@@andrewsmactips of course. 😁

Bravo Bravo CANADA!

That is putting the question in the wrong perspective. SAF is supposed to be compatible with petroleum based jet-fuel; saying that the engines can burn SAF is bragging about something that is the result of the sustainable aviation fuel production process.

Government get they fair share in taxes so a bail out would be like a refund

80 mil range

There is absolutely no difference in the structure of the 7500 and 8000. Couple minor changes and a name change.

Relax son I’m sure they have a full scale model in Montreal Canada

You are trying to compare apples & oranges. Concorde was a supersonic commerical passenger jet. The Bombardier Global 8000 is a near-supersonic private jet. Concordes are now museum pieces because they were old tech & too expensive to maintain.