Borg Technology in Starfleet

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The title says it all. This video is looking into the untied Federation's use of Borg technology in its ships and designs going forwards in the lore from the Enterprise NX-01 encounter in 2153 from the Arctic base, to Voyager and its ample use of Borg tech and the development of the Sagan Class, USS Stargazer.
00:00 Intorduction
00:51 Interest in Borg
01:27 March 1st, 2153
03:27 2365 First Contact
04:33 Wolf 359
05:15 Voyager Upgrades
08:54 The Artefact
09:19 Sagan-Class
10:22 Precautions and Gains
11:50 Summary
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Star Trek Enterprise/Voyager/Deep Space Nine/Discovery and The Next Generation are all owned by Paramount Pictures/CBS and distributed by CBS.
This Video is for critical purposes with commentary.

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@martinjrgensen8234 Год назад

7 years in constant use without a starbase at hand, and those 7 years often rough on the ship, I think Voyager was well worn out when it arrived back home.

@mrbuck5059 Год назад

Just imagine if Admiral Janeway didn't go back to get Captain Janeway. They would've been out 30 years.

@codec862 Год назад

The Intrepid class was specifically designed for long range missions and self maintenance, that's why it can land on planets. It probably wasn't too heavily worn. We even see them replacing the warp coils with the entire nacelle open in one episode. Still, I really wish they'd leaned into the lack of resources and proper facilities, Year of Hell showed us that we could have had a far more interesting series then just monster of the week in a different part of space.

@oreolaw9911 Год назад

@@codec862 that would have been interesting but I'm personally still happy with what we got

@Mate397 Год назад

Yet we saw none of that during the series. If the entire show would have been like "Year of Hell" then we could say the ship is in a bad condition by the time it reaches Earth.

@mrbuck5059 Год назад

Next show should be about 2 people stuck on a shuttle craft stranded in the M31 galaxy. Shuttlecraft has 1 phaser.

@charliedavies9110 Год назад

I love how starfleet assimilated the assimilators/assimilaters

@ARCCommanderOrar Год назад

It's kind of what they do

@EZ-D-FIANT Год назад

*Assimilated the assimilators assimilations. That's a lot of asses....😏

@knightaries13 Год назад

@@ARCCommanderOrar To the winner goes the spoils

@augustday9483 Год назад

There's a great little scene in DS9 that alludes to this, when Quark and Garack talk about rootbeer. The Federation has an insidious way of turning foes into friends.

@Anthyrion Год назад

@@augustday9483 I think Quark said something like "At least the Borg give you a warning, before they assimilate you."^^

@Sh_rib Год назад

Last time i was this early Garak was just a simple tailor lol

@setojurai Год назад

You were never this early

@dariusgreysun Год назад

🙄

@Sh_rib Год назад

Lovely thing the block feature lol 😎

@slavsquatsuperstar Год назад

What do you mean? He’s always been a plain, simple tailor.

@Sh_rib Год назад

@@slavsquatsuperstar but what about the lies? 😎

@kreatuslucina Год назад

Borg: Your energy weapons will not damage the Collective. Picard: Have fun with these bullets. *Mag dumps Tommy gun*

@vic5015 Год назад

If Starfleet could find a way to safely use the Borg's transwarp conduit network, that would be a *major* boon to exploration.

@christopherg2347 Год назад

Prior to the burn they seemed to have had a similar network. But after said event it ended up very dangerous to use.

@EZ-D-FIANT Год назад

"If we knew then what we know now" *Janeway ,endgame, talking about transwarp conduits, so they learnt eventually.......

@Harley002 Год назад

They can’t anymore, as voyager traversed the transwarp network to return to earth in endgame: part 2, they used transphasic torpedoes to destroy the insterspatial manifolds after future janeway sacrificed herself to infect the borg queen with a deadly virus. These actions created a chain reaction that destroyed not just that one transwarp hub, but the entire borg transwarp network. Going forward the borg are limited to traditional warp drive, albeit at extremely high sustained warp factors

@damenwhelan3236 Год назад

@Harley That only destroyed that transwarp hub. Not the whole network. And that is the Borg network of established conduits utilised to send ships at speed what don't have teanswarp ability themselves. It is nit the gate way to transwarp. Anyone with transwarp ability csn travel at transwarp.

@EZ-D-FIANT Год назад

@@damenwhelan3236 yea I agree, they built it so they can rebuild it and also its not necessary for transwarp, just convenient....

@Dan19870 Год назад

Reminds me of the Voyager episode Endgame when the crew are examining the advanced blueprints Admiral Janeway travelled back in time with. I think it was Seven who stated that the Transphasic torpedoes, stealth systems and the advanced armour appeared to have been developed to combat the Borg. In hindsight giving the Borg a sneak peak of technologies designed to defeat them might not have been a great idea, then again if it would have had long lasting repercussions I'm sure the 'Temporal Police' in the 29th century would have stepped in.

@AndrooUK Год назад

The Borg have magical time travelling communication devices, yet don't contact themselves to provide new technology and genetic information. Gotta love time travel in Star Trek.

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

The important point was probably whether the Borg could adopt and transmit that data before the massive wave of destruction hit them. We know they weren't completely eliminated, but we also don't know how much exactly was destroyed. And how fast the hive creates redundancy.

@LodenVor Год назад

Assuming anything survived, Starfleet may also have learned something from the wreckage of the cube that self-destructed over Earth, e.g. the Prometheus' regenerative shielding.

@DavidKnowles0 Год назад

My great theory is that Q wasn't making the Federation aware of the Borg, they were well aware of them and have been for centuries, even before Guinan people came. There are things even above Picard pay grade. Q was simply showing Picard of the Borg threat, not the Federation. I also don't see Star fleet as a organisation that would just hand around waiting to be attack.. They would have took every opportunity possible to analyse the Borg an their technology. An you can't tell me that Federation and Starfleet didn't keep incontact and monitor Hugh people an studied that transwarp corridor Enterprise stumbled up.

@rubaiyat300 Год назад

@@DavidKnowles0 Still, it didn't look like they made much progress given the Borg had established a transwarp conduit that dumped out a mere 1 lightyear from Earth by the end of Voyager. Which is consistent with my view that the Borg play with their food. They wander around getting tastes of the local flavor like we saw in their introduction. If something hits their tastebuds just right, they send a Cube. If it assimilates the target, great, it was something interesting. But WAY more important for the Borg is when that Cube somehow fails. Then their target frantically researches things like ablative armor, bioneural gel packs, and quantum torpedoes...which the Borg will eventually assimilate when the next Cube rolls around. Given the Borg do not innovate on their own, this is critical. This is also why they leave folks like the Kazon alone, giving them time to develop to the point they CAN invent interesting things. And if their target ACTUALLY invents something dangerous? Like say quantum slipstream which negates the ability of the Borg to decide when the fights happen (and suddenly brings the Borg's real advantage, impossible to strike logistics/production into danger)...they'll send dozens of Cubes all at once, maybe using those Transwarp conduits they lay right on the doorstep of their target homeworld.

@TheAnubis21485 Год назад

I like how the start of the Enterprise episode pays homage to H. P. Lovecraft's "At the Mountains of Madness" with the Borg waking up like the Elder Things from ice like in the novella.

@DeathBYDesign666 Год назад

Never thought about that but it is quite derivative of it isn't it? I love it when star trek gets lovecraftian with certain space entities and alien races. For instance the 10c were very lovecraftian, which is why I thought the last season of discovery was the best by far. Nagilum almost seemed like an outer god level entity, and all the type 2 or greater races have that feel to them. It might be a natural consequence of advancing to such a level.

@joshuahadams Год назад

Close to _The Thing_ too. Alien craft frozen in ice with its occupants thawing out and assimilating the folks who found it.

@kaitlyn__L Год назад

@@DeathBYDesign666 yeah season 4 of Discovery really found itself. There was an overall plot but each episode had a clear arc and didn’t feel too crowded.

@RetroCube Год назад

@@joshuahadams Yeah that ice lab scene made me really nostalgic when I saw that lol. Love The Thing

@Robert_Douglass 3 месяца назад

Nothing more Lovecraftian than the Borg affinity for "technology farming", combined with their ability to play the long game. You sleep well last night, reader? Because I can guarantee you, tonight you won't.

@NoBudjetFilms Год назад

And by 2409 virtually every ship in Starfleet can reliably take on Tactical Cubes one on one and stand a good chance of winning!

@amp8295 Год назад

Ooooooooor be counter-assimilated. Spoke too soon?

@Kronosfobi 8 месяцев назад

@@amp8295''We are the Federation. We will add your biological and cultural distinctiveness to our own. Let us assist.''

@christianresel8051 7 месяцев назад

Only on Easy, wich is NOT how this game was developed in the first place NOR should be played on. So nope. ONLY a team of ships and even then it takes quiet some time you can take on a cube, let alone a tac cube. The shit we can pull in sto is ours alone, when you go with the NORMAL EQUIP those ships would have you will learn what REAL PAIN is

@Kronosfobi 7 месяцев назад

@@christianresel8051 I was sucessfully able to take on a Borg cube on Normal difficulty, you'd be amazed how stupid they are. Just drop couple of fighters that deal juuust enough dps to negate its healing per minute. Never get further than 20 km away but most of the time stay 10km away. This way Cube focuses on you and doesnt shoot the fighters, but it cant hit you neither. Make a bombing run, deal as much as damage you can, get out as soon as your shields are gone. Rinse and repeat. Took me 20 minutes but I killed it, with a broadside build nontheless, and as a non-dps focused engineer.

@lasarith2 День назад

@@christianresel8051that last even with the Borg I could take solo (5max) mission on the hardest setting and still win , and I wasn’t even near max on upgrades.

@Vidiocity92 Год назад

Interesting how the biggest focus with the Borg is on technology when they mention seeking to assimilate "biological and technological distinctiveness" and having other cultures service theirs, but we don't see the biological or cultural adaptations. They're still set in their Giger-esque aesthetic, but I guess they deemed other designs or style irrelevant.

@chazblank2717 Год назад

This is why they’re such a grim reflection of the Federation…

@alistairgrey5089 Год назад

They actually do use the biological distinctiveness. If a particular species is physically better at something the Borg will sometimes use that species for a dedicated role.

@markfergerson2145 Год назад

I vaguely recall a non canon mention that their ability to survive vacuum comes from an assimilated species, explaining the blotchy grayish skin color. Apparently it is a simple genetic mod that can be applied to pretty much any humanoid. That's likely the main limiting factor on which uniquenesses they can assimilate across the whole Collective, what uniqueness in a new species is and what isn't genetically compatible with the existing assimilated drone population.

@Vidiocity92 Год назад

@@alistairgrey5089 That's exactly what I mean, but I don't think I've seen it. Do you know what episodes we see that?

@alistairgrey5089 Год назад

@@Vidiocity92 I don't know what episode but I do know Seven mentions how certain species are better for certain tasks.

@kingssman2 Год назад

This is why the Borg were cautious with their expansion. Sending only 1 cube instead of an Armada, in case the power they were trying to assimilate had technology superior to theirs that could bring down an entire collective. It was better to risk a single ship and detonate on failure, than to have more ships increasing the odds that one of them would be compromised.

@jamesbizs Год назад

I don’t think they cared that much

@rubaiyat300 Год назад

I think their behavior is more likely described as ruthless efficiency. Space is a big place even for the Borg. To find promising candidates, they travel around in deep space assimilating colonies and random ships. But they clearly don't locust swarm and wipe out entire areas of space, otherwise the Delta Quadrant would have been a lot more emptier and deadlier place for Voyager plot shields or no. They wait to go eating only when a target is sufficiently advanced to provide them with what they are really after, perfection. IE new tech. Hence why the relatively backwards Kazon don't draw attention, but the Federation did. And so they sent a Cube, it got destroyed, and you'd think that would be a loss for the Borg. But the surviving Federation then was compelled to research things like ablative armor, quantum torpedoes, and bioneural gel packs. All new techs the Borg are confident they will one day assimilate. And they have every reason to be confident because they have a transwarp conduit that leads to 1 lightyear from Earth if they ever REALLY needed to kill the Federation. And we've seen what the Borg do to threatening species. We saw it in the quantum slipstream episode of Voyager they send dozens of Cubes because that species had finally invented a tech that would threaten the Borg, or rather would threaten their main power, their completely untouchable logistics and production capacity, which means blowing up Cubes is meaningless, they can always make more so long as no one else has transwarp tech.

@SiXiam Год назад

@@rubaiyat300 Another comment said the Borg were farming the Federation for technology. Hence why they send such few ships. Also the transwarp hub may have been a more recent installation.

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

And I can understand why they send one cube for the first direct push on Earth and the Federation (Wolf 359, after they had contact with the Enterprise-D) Or even smaller ships for less sized civilizations. Why they didn't send more later on is pretty much a problem. If they are so extremely focused on efficiency, they would either put the Federation on hold until they assimilate necessary tech elsewhere (and give the Federation time to develop more worthwhile tech in the meantime), or would send out a bigger force to get the planet in one go. But instead they send yet another single cube and then do some time travel asspull. That doesn't sound like efficiency. If they can time travel, they could do that before going into combat (and loosing drones and a ship, aka wasting resources). Or would not time travel at all, because going back means hitting the Federation at a time when they aren't worthwhile assimilating. So while First Contact is a great Trek movie, the entire plan of the Borg is plain stupid.

@DavidKnowles0 Год назад

I believe that once the Department of temporal investigations was created they realise there was a time loop involve and hid all knowledge of the Borg to allow the time loop to be completed.

@AzraelThanatos Год назад

You know, with the Admiral Hansen, it makes me wonder if he was related to Seven there. I'd never really thought about that, but it would explain his own interest there Also, with regard to the NX-01's encounter with the Borg, there is a lot of potential technology that they might have gotten upgrades out of with the drones upgrading ships somewhat, which might have been more easy to understand.

@kaitlyn__L Год назад

Although they of course could be completely unrelated, it’s very possible that Seven’s father could be his younger brother, or perhaps even a son. Might explain how their mission got approved and they got such a relatively powerful ship. Of course the out of universe reason is almost every name in Voyager was used incidentally in TNG or DS9. There was mention of an Admiral Chakotay/Chekote, there was an Ensign Janeway, a B’Elanna Nebula… and indeed Admiral Hansen. Though I always call him Admiral Handsome, partly ironically but who knows how he would’ve looked when he was younger!

@Yasuda9000 Год назад

Interesting. However, his name is spelled Hanson. Seven of Nine's family name is Hansen. Admiral Hanson was good friends with Tom Paris's family. Mostly likely, he was friends with Tom's father, Admiral Paris. This is mentioned in a Star Trek comic during when Voyager was still in the Delta Quadrant and encountered a temporal anomoly that shows them the Battle of Wolf 359. Some of the escape pods from the damaged and destroyed ships pass through, and Voyager retrieves them and help the survivors. Members of the Voyager crew recognize the survivors and get along and choose to stay on Voyager, but the temporal anomaly has tethered itself to Voyager. They find out it has tethered itself to Voyager because of the Battle of Wolf 359 survivors, and they try to find a way to disconnect the survivors from the anomaly but fail. The survivors then decide to go back into the anomaly to the past to prevent Voyager from being brought into the Battle of Wolf 359 since it was slowly being drawn in. One Voyager crew member followed the survivors into the anomaly because he was reunited with a family member, a cousin, I believe. He chose to join them because he wanted to be a family member even if it meant being killed or assimilated by the Borg. Voyager tries to beam him back to the ship but he had already gone through and the anomaly disappeared. When Voyager is about to leave, they are attacked by a ship called Leviathan.

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

Let's not forget that that one timeship captain was stuck in the 20th century and some industrial CEO, who had his ship, basically created the microchip revolution by slowly introducing 29th century tech.

@THATGuy5654 Год назад

They integrated _CODE_ from Borg tech?! The advancements in stupid-pills over the centuries are really breathtaking.

@DavidKnowles0 Год назад

So did Voyager an not once did the Borg take advantage of it.

@pantherpopel551 Год назад

@@DavidKnowles0 Voyager also had so much bad writing, that i wouldnt hold that up as a generalizable example.

@kuhljager2429 Год назад

Voyager also had a friendy drone on standby that could help fix any hacking problems.

@jamegumb7298 Год назад

@@kuhljager2429 That and it depends what and how much code they integrated. If it goes to hell they can always recover from hard copy. Takes a while and no fun but is possible. I bet they sandbox the code properly as well.

@jacobsheehan5775 Год назад

Borg DEVISED code

@shaneofcanada7042 Год назад

I like the idea that the Borg and star fleet are just Yin and Yang, in that, the Borg force assimilate everyone they come across. The Federation on the other hand offers assimilation freely to everyone until you're surrounded and there is no choice but to join.

@devilhell69 Год назад

the ying yong on startreck are klingon and starfleet borg iis and option

@nepntzerZer Год назад

@@devilhell69 WRONG

@devilhell69 Год назад

@@nepntzerZer your the one wrong

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

As Quark and Garak said it, they are insidious.

@hypothalapotamus5293 Год назад

That's not yin and yang. That's called being two sides of the same coin.

@XFactor5a Год назад

You left out that the Drone created from The Doctor's mobile emitter (which is future tech) on board Voyager also enhanced USS Voyager's systems with 29th Century Borg tech.

@SIG442 Год назад

Dont forget to mention the 'Future' mission in STO where the liberated borg joined forces with the Federation and others to maintain the timelines.

@MisterMonsterMaker Год назад

Hi Ric, thanks for all the great videos over the years, always a pleasure to watch. I find your own personal insights into your topics as interesting as the raw facts themselves. Would there be any chance of you doing a video sometime on the DEVORE IMPERIUM from Voyager? I appreciate there may not be much material to work with, but I always thought they had great potential as an antagonist and am disappointed they've never been revisited. All the best.

@anthonyventura9298 Год назад

I think one source of tech you neglected to mention was all the modifications the Borg made to the Enterprise-E during the events of First Contact. The Enterprise did survive the encounter even though the Borg had almost overrun the ship completely. This would have been a treasure trove. Dozens of dead Borg, one nearly assimilated Star Fleet ship, and even the corpse of a dead queen.

@kenrivers9757 Год назад

Great video, to the point no filler. I love it. Very informative 😊😊

@TheFlyWahine Год назад

Awsome! Big fan of the borg and really enjoyed this video.

@weareorigin Год назад

6:00 that looks like an external aquarium filter being installed. Voyager just got a new aquarium upgrade.

@juniravegaming8564 Год назад

Idk why but it seems RU-vid is no longer notifying me of your uploaded videos…glad I searched it out ❤

@brettcooper3893 Год назад

Let's not forget that the Nerada and ships from the Kelvin timeline also had reverse engineered Borg technology in them.

@purestrain3099 9 месяцев назад

No, they didnt.

@vic5015 Год назад

The Raven was a civilian ship and *not* a Starfleet vessel. And thus did *not* have the USS designation. I think the episode says it had an NAR designation similar to real world SS designations often used fir civilian vesseks and possibly the USNS designation the US Navy uses for its non-combatant hospital ships.

@yodaslovetoy Год назад

"The USS Raven (NAR-32450) was a 24th century Federation Raven-type exploration vessel" - memory alpha

@danielseelye6005 Год назад

@@yodaslovetoy Checked Memory Alpha, can confirm.

@kaitlyn__L Год назад

The boy who mimicked Data in one TNG episode was in a NAR-registered vessel as well, could even be specifically science vessels rather than all civilian ships

@richardkohlhof Год назад

I am so grateful for your hard work, you've helped me escape when needed. I hope I can give back at some point -R

@TheTonyMcD Год назад

That was an incredible intorduction!

@gadgetdoc Год назад

Great channel, great voice, great vibe. Sometimes I find myself just watching video after video.

@Sasuke81a Год назад

I would be concerned, especially during the opening of Star Trek Picard Season 2 when Starfleet Navy has Borg Technology integrated within their ships, which are a boom indeed but I fear it'll cause a Battlestar Galactica incident.

@I.____.....__...__ Год назад

It's also a boon.

@SovereignKnight74 Год назад

I love this kind of stuff! Fascinating!

@Phil-D83 Год назад

They butchered the borg in st picard. The first contact -voy era had cool borg tech. Seems to have been expanded on in st online. Adding borg tech to ships was similar to using shadow tech in babylon 5. Asking for trouble.

@DavidKnowles0 Год назад

An yet Voyager did it without any great consequence.

@Phil-D83 Год назад

@@DavidKnowles0 keep it out of the main computer core

@RetroCube Год назад

Borg in Picard was somewhat redeemable... Until season 2 lmao that was garbage. They seriously got nerfed in that show though even season 1. Seven reactivating all the Borg drones on the Artifact should've worked way more effectively even after they got ejected into space. They're shown to be able to survive for some time in the vacuum of space, so that pissed me off a lot. Romulans would've been overwhelmed and assimilated way faster if they didn't have plot armor.

@mastasolo Год назад

If the Borg considered species 8472 as perfect biologically, what are the chances they did experiments to change their basic humanoid lifeforms to that of the tri-pedal race?

@theborg5981 Год назад

I seem to remember reading that the Borg don't do much in the way of innovation by themselves, just adaptation and assimilation. Besides, the tripedal body layout is probably the least of what is considered to make them perfect. Probably their triple helix DNA (in comparison to double helix DNA on earth) is a much bigger factor, along with their bioengineering

@I.____.....__...__ Год назад

@@theborg5981 Yup, the Borg aren't scientists, they don't do experiments; they're engineers, they glue together.

@oreolaw9911 Год назад

@@theborg5981 the only times we actually see the borg following the scientific method is when a queen is involved it honestly seems like they only use the scientific method and the queen in special situations

@theborg5981 Год назад

@@oreolaw9911 exactly. Nearly nothing of theirs was actually invented by them. Even their nanoprobes were assimilated from species 149.

@oreolaw9911 Год назад

@@theborg5981 it's one of the reasons why I love them they are literally the equivalent of a virus unable to change without a host to infect most of the time

@cca78758 Год назад

Great title, very on point👍.

@juniordax9777 Год назад

I still have a theory that The Borg started with the intention of complete assimilation of The Federation, but following the multiple failed attempts to completely assimilate Earth, and the spike in technological breakthroughs Starfleet has made following each run in they have had with The Borg, The collective have begun farming Starfleet for said technologies (they can't learn from anything they have not assimilated) and they will continue to do so until Starfleet show no further signs of development technologically. Sending one cube to, in a sense, test the fleets resistance would make sense in this case. Not everyone makes it through a battle with them and it takes seconds for nano-probes to connect someone to the collective and share information fully. Even if the cube is destroyed the learned information lives on transmitted throughout the entire collective in mere moments. We have seen other worlds overrun by fleets of cubes and these civilisations are no more as a result, which begs the question why they do not send a fleet of cubes to Earth. These other species may have been farmed also and upon reaching the peak of their ability to adapt and develop technologies to resist The Borg, the collective deemed them ready for complete assimilation (having outlived their usefulness in developing further). It's just a theory, but it does explain why they have sent only one cube over and over again and again.

@SiXiam Год назад

Imagine it from the Borg perspective. For the first cube: sleep! Why did they go to sleep? Second cube: what the hell is a quantum torpedo?

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

The tech farm is pretty much the best explanation for why First Contact happened.

@kevreid82 Год назад

The borg left behind the wreckage of an entire ship above earth. Who knows what Starfleet learned from it. Data had been connected to the collective and he may have learned something about borg technology. The defiant, sovereign, and akira were all designed to fight the Borg so who knows what sources Starfleet used to develope those?

@deanspanos8210 Год назад

Was the ability in Star Trek Armada II canon where eight cubes could combine into one massive cube?

@brianpeterson5559 Год назад

Well done thanks

@The_Viscount Год назад

Don't forget that when the Borg Cube was destroyed by the Enterprise D above Earth, there would be salvage. We don't know how much, but it is conceivable that Section 31 would get as much as possible and that this would inform the design of ships like the Akira, Steamrunner, Prometheus (yuck), and Sovereign.

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

Who wouldn't be interested in Borg tech, as advanced and powerful as they are.

@Gantros Год назад

Something I’d love to see is an analysis of how the Borg Cooperative led by Jurati avoided creating causal paradoxes with the Collective before emerging as the dominant faction of the Borg at the beginning/end of Picard Season 2.

@thelocalbard5415 Год назад

"You may have assimilated us, but we assimilated your assimilating!"

@Jonathan-nn3rg Год назад

I really enjoy, and look forward to your videos. I am quite knowledgeable about the Star Trek universe, but I still learn something every time I watch your videos. Keep up the great work.

@CertifiablyIngame Год назад

Thanks! I usually draw from the books and expanded universe or add speculation but try to define just when I am doing that.

@kaitlyn__L Год назад

me too. Ric usually connects certain events or topics that I hadn’t thought to connect to each other before.

@BennyLlama39 Год назад

Rick: "Good thing there's no prime directive in reverse that says the Federation cannot acquire better stuff if it falls into their laps." Me: Yet. I mean, we all know how they basically threw away the advantage of cloaking devices...

@SiXiam Год назад

Well the Romulans do eventually join the Federation so the treaty was worth it. At that point every ship could have the cool phasing cloaks.

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

@@SiXiam I want to see that meeting. "Okay Federation, now that we are one, might as well give you the cloaking tech" - "We already have that. Or rather, we have something better already that can go through solid matter"

@SiXiam Год назад

@@HappyBeezerStudios The Romulans experimented with phasing tech in that Scout ship in TNG. The one where Ro and Geordi were invisible to the crew. It didn't work very well. Just like the USS Pegasus. Together though maybe they can get it to work.

@johnsaunders9891 Год назад

I love this channel

@alisonsmith4436 Год назад

Thank you 😊

@notgonnahappen7899 Год назад

We know Starfleet has a Temporal police force in the future. They even tried to stop Voyager directly in the past. Yet they did nothing when Janeway went back in time and gave herself future technology and knowledge.

@pantherpopel551 Год назад

What? Voyager having bad writing, that contradicts its own material? *shocked pickachu*

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

Sisko also got a visit of some agency when he went back and played with tribbles. I have the feeling that the temporal police keeps a blind eye if it's in their benefit. They also didn't prevent the introduction of microchips in the 20th century from one of their stranded shuttles. From their point of view Janeway goes back and introduces early 25th century tech into the mid 24th century giving the Federation a little push.

@johnnycomboplayer7548 Год назад

Janeway getting Voyager home early was “supposed to happen”. Apply Marvel’s TVA in Loki, saying the Temporal heist in Endgame was supposed to happen. Same logic

@pantherpopel551 Год назад

@@johnnycomboplayer7548 That was explicitely not supposed to happen, as the series logic told us again and again. The time shenanigens we see, that change an existing timeline are always seen as not normal and the timecops explicitely called Voy out for it.

@DaiMonAlex Год назад

borg: we have your technology, you have our technology, You are assimilated, We are assimilated?, We are one

@yodaslovetoy Год назад

Ikea, taking over the universe, one assimilation at a time.....

@aequanimitatis Год назад

Nice. 😅

@devoncook1845 Год назад

Funny the title of this in the preview while scrolling through RU-vid, was Starfleet Assimilated... seeing the last episode of Picard that's aired was exactly that haha

@Numba003 Год назад

I'm gonna try to make it around to watching Picard one of these days now that I have the service it's on lol. Thanks for another interesting video! God be with you out there everybody! ✝️ :)

@AlteredBuzzard Год назад

Note that the Borg Aren't talked about in Discovery. Not even when talking about The Burn.

@CertifiablyIngame Год назад

There is also the idea of the drone "One" made with 29th century tech who was an individual, could be any Borg by that time are very different and no longer a threat? Could be a good idea for a video.

@kaitlyn__L Год назад

They did discuss them once, they mentioned that the transwarp network was full of debris and dangerous to navigate. But then they navigated it anyway at the end of season three. Implying the Federation did have access to it before the Burn.

@BNuts Год назад

I see Starfleet of _STP_ the same way I do the RSE in _STO_ : what fool places tech that can be easily hacked / controlled by an enemy force in control of _any_ vital systems, including sensors and communications? And yet, that they both did. In _STP_ this results in the Borg easily hijacking the entire fleet assembled at that time. In _STO_ , the Tal Shi'ar meddling with Borg tech at the Vault sent out signals to the Borg, basically inviting them back to the Beta and Alpha Quadrants. And while the Borg weren't major threats for the rest of the Iconian War, they are revealed to be one of the Iconians' possible choices of shock troops, together with the Undine and the Vaadwuar. I like that _STO_ turns the Borg from their thoroughly defanged status in _Voyager_ to a credible threat, able to assimilate not only crews and ships, but entire planets, and even making further attempts to assimilate Undine. Some parts of the Borg had that affect of being the leaderless Legion from encounters before 'Best of Both Worlds' and _First Contact_ , while other parts were led by Queens, but still made her a threat. The only case that made me raise an eyebrow was in the 'Measure of Morality' mission, when the impossible test makes the opponent mix Borg and Iconian, which should not have been possible. And then when they used the Excalbian power to summon a fleet of all the worst bad guys to that point: Borg, it has been proven to this point, lack imagination. They cannot create, only assimilating what others have made, and usually putting any trace of individuality or culture behind a mass of metal. But still, they're treated as a threat. It's also kind of cool that your PC can be assimilated, at least partially, and you'll either be fighting for control, or losing control until a teammate can put you down, and you can revive. Although I haven't actually seen that in awhile.

@SiXiam Год назад

These aren't the nightmares of Wolf 359.

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

That is the same question as to why put the generator for the force field or shield bubble outside said shield.

@SiXiam Год назад

@@HappyBeezerStudios Larger power source is the only good reason.

@baskkev7459 Год назад

i would add that after voyagers return they thought that the borg where all destroyed.

@shanenolan5625 Год назад

In the books, the borg retaliated ( surviving borg ) some years after voyagers return. ( s few years after nemesis) and starfleet did investigate or assess the borg treat after voyager. ( with slipstream ships and tranwarp contuits. )

@thesovereign3804 9 месяцев назад

You forgot about the Borg tech that merge with The Dr. EMH 29th century emitter & created a 29th century Borg. What a story line if they expanded on that😮.

@shmee123ful Год назад

I've always wondered how the Hansons learnt about the Borg, since they dispersed befor q who.

@LUKAS3675 Год назад

it's nice to know that there is still ice in the arctic circle in 2153

@SEMAJH106 Год назад

I feel like this video needs to be revisited since Picard episode 9 had aired lol. Sneaky Sneaky

@Z-42 Год назад

Thank you for being Rick.

@Peizxcv Год назад

The Borg was hit with multiple nerf sticks for plot reason. Same with Romulan and the supernova plot

@I.____.....__...__ Год назад

Same with the Wraith; Shepard barely managed to take out a single one in the pilot but by the end of the season, they were dropping them like flies.

@saltyheathen8113 Год назад

Do you think they served hamborgers in the chow hall during the borg attacks? It's a hamburger with nanomachine chips?

@starbugmechanic5236 Год назад

I would love to see a Borg cube with an upgraded version of the Vidiian boarding claw!

@kethf4301 Год назад

Love these vids Rick. What do you think about the theory of the Mirror Universe being created by the events of First Contact? The first mention I'd heard of this was in one of Shatner's novels. But honestly, for me anyways, it works.

@HappyBeezerStudios Год назад

If we consider the Enterprise opening canon, then the divergence must've happened earlier. In the normal opening we see scenes of exploration from wprld maps, ships, baloons, space shutles, the wright brothers, Apollo missions, Mars rovers, the ISS, into future stuff culminating in the Enterprise. In the mirror universe episode openings it starts similar, but then goes into the world wars, tanks, fighter jets, the terran empire flag on the moon (instead of the US one) and a couple space battles. So at least as early as the 1960s the mirror universe had a more violent and aggressive path. Not only that, on their first contact, they shot the vulcans and take their ship. (Seen in S4E18 "In a Mirror, Darkly I")

@thomasleemullins4372 Год назад

I think an idea for a Star Trek spinoff would be about the Borg. It would have the free Borg trying to free and stop the main Borg. Perhaps a movie about how the Borg came about and how they were expelled into deep space.

@invictus2578 Год назад

You should do a video on how the Borg were hobbled by the neural lytic virus that Janeway introduced and how badly the collective is in the 25th century as a whole play are there split fiefdom in the collective

@damenwhelan3236 Год назад

Merging Borg tech sounds great. But then you have to ignore the part where the tech wants to consume you.

@I.____.....__...__ Год назад

Hey, it's hard to resist poking around. Look at how people poke and prod computer viruses today. 🤷

@damenwhelan3236 Год назад

@m We made that virus thiugh. And we poke around in a system not networked... We don't put it into a system that also carries enough fire-power to level a planet.

@planetphatness Год назад

2020 tech already consumes us

@1014p Год назад

Thats not how that all works. Your talking about the nanites that are set rewrite/take over systems. The core technologies are devices themselves. If you build it minus the nanite issue your good.

@DocWolph Год назад

The Federation is only scratching the surface or the sheer ecosystem and technology of the BORG. But that fact will never been known or understood, as long as the BORG are so nerfed as to be almost a non-threat issue.

@sproge2142 Год назад

Where is the intro clip with the spheres from? I don't remember seeing that in the star trek online playthrough on this channel?

@tuseroni6085 Год назад

what no mention of hue, or the puzzle they designed to take out the borg, or the effect hue had on the collective?

@MatthewJamesKalasky 13 дней назад

I can certainly see the appeal of using such advanced tech being integrated into your own. Now they just need to also add technology from some of those ancient, in some cases, extinct species like the Iconians and Nacene (not actually extinct) and to their ships and whatnot.

@Jayjay-qe6um Год назад

Now that the Borg have a provisional membership in the Federation, can't wait to see in Picard season 3 how much Starfleet acquired Borg technology. And I do hoped in Discovery season 5 that the Borg would make a cameo.

@KalEl7802 Год назад

I think the Borg are gone in Discovery timeline.

@CoralCopperHead Год назад

I always wondered why the _Intrepid_ felt a little underwhelming, now I know why: Voyager was absolutely *not* your usual _Intrepid._

@joeerickson516 Год назад

"Desire is irrelevant, resistance is futile!" The Borg.

@michaelbressette2599 Год назад

makes me think of the origins of the Borg. For some strange reason I began to think about human development in the distant future & as such they have become so advanced they decide to go back into the past & try assimilating their own ancestors. I know its weird to think like this but it seems this relationship between Borg & humans seems to be developing to an almost beneficial cooperative & makes me then rethink this as a prelude to a new scheme the borg have at assimilation of all Humans kind of like a counter resistance thing & the borg eventually win by friendly but hostile takeover.

@garretthaney9134 Год назад

I prefer the "Enterprise and JJ movies took place in the new timeline created by the Borg time travel" head cannon. Requires ignoring the series finale of Enterprise, but that's a price Im willing to pay.

@IMDARKFIRE007 Год назад

Borg don't run for the Delta quadrant, they assimilate. Plot armor to prevent an all out assimilation of Earth went too far here. But to be fair, Enterprise did minimal damage to the Borg...Voyager nearly destroyed the entire idea. It wasn't until Annie Wersching (RIP) played the queen that the Borg felt creepy and menacing again.

@jfbrko290 Год назад

What was the first segment of footage from the beginning / intro of the video from? A certain mission in Star Trek online?

@SiXiam Год назад

It was the early borg missions.

@kaneo1 Год назад

We're just skipping right past the cube blowing up in Earth orbit? Lottsa tech there for salvage.

@johnnelson7192 10 месяцев назад

Sweet

@pathfinderdiscovery9395 Год назад

But I love it anyways an the vid nice work

@user-jl2wd1it8h Год назад

How can the Borg defeat physical damage? I understand if they can modulate sheilds to overcome phasers but there are many instances where Borg drones are affected by physical objects. Surely if the Federation can accelerate something the size of the Enterprise many hundreds of times faster than light they can fire a massive object at 100x light speed at a Borg cube for example. How can you modulate a defense to absorb such a mind blowing amount of kinetic energy?

@linz8291 6 месяцев назад

As you'very mentioned, repulsive shields and side magnetic shielding are usually to protect ships throughout the space. Physical damage including plasma weapons would be shift to other places when defence system works, and Federation ships always own the same energy and defence devices in case of physical damage occurs in space. FTL and variant light speeds are basic mode in Federation ships, especially these ships with long-duration engines.

@WhittyPics Год назад

I have to wonder how far the borg collective can go from cube to cube? I have to think there are still some borg left out there.

@shogun2215 Год назад

Borg : "YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED" Starfleet : "no u"

@lshawn7925 Год назад

Is there a novel or online storyline that tells of what happened with the group of individualized Borg led by Hugh and corrupted by Lore after Lore was defeated by the TNG crew?

@lordlossthedead Год назад

What about the influence of the borg on the Kelvin timeline?

@dannileigh6426 Год назад

Interesting last point, it would have been good for seven to challenge janeway... Seven: Are you not assimilating technology you do not have from other species? Janeway: Perhaps, but we don't assimilate people. Seven: To the Borg the biological is a technology. Besides, did you not capture and assimilate me?

@__The_Real_V__ Год назад

Admiral Hansen?? Wonder if he is related to Anika (7 of 9)'s family at all?

@pathfinderdiscovery9395 Год назад

Sucks they killed off Hugh tho but maybe Just maybe he regenerates over long period of time or maybe they temp froze him to fix him backup later , come on crews we really need Hugh

@DAVE496 Год назад

The battle of sector 001 how well did the millennium falcon do against the borg?

@solidaverage Год назад

It was damaged by a Cylon Raider.

@Pikman773 Год назад

even better what if the federation got the regeneration tech for their ships' hull

@patrickhutchison6465 Год назад

Plus voyager brought back the design for ablative armor and trans-physic torpedos, though I imagine that would be extremely classified and not from the Borg itself. Funny how the the people who monitor the timeline for the temporal prime directive just let admiral janeway do that.

@kayseek1248 Год назад

7:52 I have a feeling that will be considered less impressive in the future (the GAIA Telescope has been able to track 1.5 billion objects).

@williamh.gatesiii8183 Год назад

It's just a ship not a telescope 🙄

@y0uCantHandle Год назад

Don’t forget the experience of the Battle at Wolf 359 produced the defiant

@blackpanther2k7 Год назад

The Borg are coming back in the next story arc in STO

@Jr-md8fg Год назад

The Borg leave shattered cubes behind to be found & influence design. Then the Borg effortless come along and take control over those ship computers. The entire cube works as a nanoprobe in macro

@ChrisM-hx9kv Год назад

Commenting to feed the algorithm 🙃

@LeoLijo Год назад

3:04 Lamo that guy the borg is holding by his neck😂

@SombraVelada Год назад

They finally added Admiral Janeway in STO?

@RaidrunnerZ Год назад

Good video, but increase your volume

@veggiet2009 Год назад

I love it, though it reads much more like an audiobook than an episode of television. Like all of those inner thoughts would have to be delivered in voiceover or as officer's logs. This would be very slow for television... Again, perfect for a book, not critiquing the story at all, just the framing of it as a new season

@skywise001 Год назад

I always wanted to write an STO mission explaining why the Borg have a magnetic signature and much more powerful tractor beams than what we see later. Eh maybie the iconians did it.