At 3:11. Your suggestion that Boroux integrate flouride filtration in their basic foundation filters is brilliant. No one wants plastic filters sitting in room temperature water all day every day. Right now, Berkey, like Kleenex, has name recognition. It will be difficult to knock Berkey off the throne. Boroux has a chance, however. I hope they listen to you.
What if you want fluoride? Fluoride is essential for teeth health and reducing decay. I dont particularity eat much foods rich with fluoride so I use the black Berkey filters without the fluoride attachment. The water the comes out of my city tap has regulated safe fluoride levels. I realize fluoride has health risks but so do many things taken in excess.
@@practicalguy973 There's fluoride in toothpaste and you can't control how much fluoride is in your water. Secondly, fluoride deficiencies may be old science. Some studies say that you don't need fluoride. Other studies say that fluoride is a health hazard. I'm not a scientist so of course, I can't say one way or the other. What I don't like at all about the fluoride filters in the Berkey is that the plastic filter sits in your filtered water, negating the use of the stainless steel tank. At least with plastic water pitchers, they sit in refrigerator and cool temperatures lessens the amount of chemicals leached into your water. The Berkey counter top plastic flouride filters sit at room temperature.
@@davidhunternyc1 Studies prove the point they set out validate usually from set parameters that help them achieve their goals which might not even be valid in another study. This is why there is so much conflicting information and one study that contradicts another completely like the ones you point out. Fluoride like mostly any other natural mineral is absorbed through the gut. Tooth paste isn't something I eat nor should anyone. The fact is there is fluoride stored in your teeth and even more in the body and we want to maintain that balance. I tend to think about the facts we know like how much of set minerals are in the body and I cant trust all the back and forth movements and studies. With modern diets we have our teeth last longer than ever before. I think this is why fluoride was put in tap water so I will go with that at least for now. I have a water pitcher in the fridge as it makes sense to allow chemicals to evaporate and lessens the chances of bacterial growth being in a cold environment.
Just preordered a set of these filters, after watching your review. I’ve been on a Berkey filter back order list now for weeks, and I’m over it. Also tired of constantly wondering where the third party Berkey supplier is actually getting their filters. Thanks for the recommendation 👍🏼
Your videos are so helpful. Are you planning on testing berkefeld British waterfilters at any point as they are the only gravity system with some of those certifications that I'm aware of? Thanks so much
@@waterfilterguruIm interested in that too! I just installed the Waterdrop filters, but I like what I’ve learned about the Berkefeld ceramic filters for severe reasons, not the least of which is that they remove fluoride with the additional plastic filters.
I find its hard to trust where the filters come from with Berkey. Its all 3rd party sellers in my country and I'm never trusting the temptation for sellers to get fakes and make a ton of money.
I just replaced my 3-1/2 year old Berkey filters with the Boroux filters. I still kept the Berkey filters. Customer service is over eager to help. Long story with preorder questions to reviewing their filters. So I’ll just get to the point. If you have the time, you could always prime the filters by submerging the filters for a few hours or until they no longer float.
A big one for many folks.....the filters are not capable of reducing fluoride. Obviously....Activated Carbon is NOT an effective media to remove added or naturally occuring fluoride. A little google search on Activated Carbon could have already debunked that. Actived Carbon loses its capacity to filter Fluoride after 200-300 liters. Incorporating activated aluminium into the activated carbon might work but I guess these filters will be way more expensive (due to the complexity) and the replacement interval very short due to the activated aluminum running out of its adsorption capacity. In the end, we will then be complaing about the price of the filters. There is simply no one-fits-all-solution. In my opinion Boroux does a very neat job on explaining what to expect from these filters. Secondly, filter lifespan depends on YOUR use case. Meaning, type of water filtered and therefore the lifespan is determined by the contaminent(s) you're trying to remove.
the primer bulb accessory from Berkey is a worthwhile investment if you don't have a faucet that works with the little flat donut thing. the primer is quick and you don't spray water all over the place.
I've installed and tested a number of whole house water treatment systems already! Just search the channel for the keyword 'whole house' What water issues are you trying to address with a whole house system?
Instead of using a slow spray nozzle, set the unit on the counter, use a pitcher or bowl to catch water from the faucet, pour into the unit, repeat until the unit is filled.
@@waterfilterguru I have a Berkey with Pro Ones at the moment. I have Boroux filters to istall soon. I believe it's about six 1/2 gallon pitcher fills to fill it. I'll count next time and let you know for sure.
Can you tell me what filters are the best ones to buy that fit a Berkey? I've purchased Berkey, Pro One and Boroux. It'd be fabulous to know which one is better. Of these 3... or another brand? Please shed some light. Most of us don't test and wouldn't, know how anyway! tia.
@@waterfilterguru I have never tested my water, so I don't have any in mind. I was hoping that one brand stands out over all the others. Is that not something that can be answered without knowing your water breakdown?
@@toddswisher Unfortunately there is no "one size fits all" water filter. Without knowing what contaminants are in the water, you may or may not end up getting a system capable of addressing them
23 inches plus a foot so you can get a bottle under it puts it almost tall enough to need a step ladder to fill it. The designs like this are a deal breaker for me. Make one that I can set on the counter and get a water bottle under it.
Sounds like a direct connect system that filters the cold water at your kitchen sink on demand using pressure might be a better fit for you. These systems don't require an invasive install, and are easy to use. Check out my recent video where I installed and tested one ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yOs3yTqDLOI.html
Curious about your thoughts on this vs the king water drop? The king had full fluoride removal in your other tests but this has various other benefits. There is certainly a cost difference. The water drops do seem to filter incredibly quickly, almost to the point it seems questionable.
King tank filters performed well, but the vessel itself is poorer quality than Boroux. If you want to reduce fluoride you need the extra filters which, just like Berkey, sit down in the filtered water in the lower chamber. Less than ideal
To be honest, these systems are to be used for grid down, survival, back country situations. Fluoride reduction is not really an issue. If you want fluoride reduction in a home, get an RO system.
Agreed, RO is the best treatment method for fluoride reduction. It's important to always have a proper method of disinfection in addition to gravity fed filters like BOROUX for emergency preparedness or off grid use - like boiling, UV, or chemical treatment
There is no such a thing as a water distillation system for showering. Water distillation is a time and energy intensive process, taking on average 6-8 hours to distill just one gallon of water. It is one of the best methods for creating purified water.
I have a filter on my sink faucet and then filter that water in the Berkey. Hopefully filtering water twice is removing most contaminants, but who knows. I've been using the ceramic filters. Are they any good?
Pre-filtering can help depending on what contaminants are present, and the filter being used. By pre-filtering, you'll also extend the media lifespan of the subsequent filter. Which ceramic filters have you been using exactly?
Nobody fills a gravity fed* (corrected) system in a sink with a "spigot". You fill a pitcher and pour it in. Been using my system almost 15 years. Over last two years i use a distiller on the back end. Costs...but so does cancer
@waterfilterguru Berkey. Not bragging on them since their lack of transparency has me using a distiller to make my water 100% pure. Just saying. Putting that system in a sink is a tough way to fill it.
@waterfilterguru you're correct. For some dang reason, I keep calling it a reverse osmosis system...though I've been using this dang thing for 15+ years. 😅 Oh well. Can't win em all
@@clint1261 😉anyway, back to your comment about filling the system with a pitcher. How many times do you have to fill the pitcher to get the top reservoir of your filter system full?
Multiple stages of filtration & disinfection: - A filter to remove sediment and suspended solids, this can even be a piece of cloth. - A proper method of disinfection (chemical, UV or boiling) - A carbon filter to reduce any organic chemicals present Check out this video for a more in-depth explanation: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Btqqwd_cLiA.html
These filters are inferior to a water distiller and by a long shot. The only downside, they need electricity. The reason you do not hear about them is they do not result in recurring sales of filter materials which made these big business. Do your own research, you want to remove the forever chemicals, dangerous minerals, fluorides, pharmaceuticals, and biologic activity, go distilled. I add a pinch of salt to add a little flavor and make it more rapidly absorbed by our bodies. Once you know how much superior home distillers are, you will see these stack filters are just not worth it. Reverse osmosis work well, but then you have to keep buying refills. Distilled 100% ! It removes everything but H2O . Do your research, you will leave these filter systems as even a consideration.
While distillation is one of the best methods for purifying water, it's good to note it's drawbacks as well. It's an time intensive process, requiring 6-8 hours to distill just one gallon of water. There are some contaminants (VOCs) which are able to evaporate with the water, so make sure to look for a distiller that includes a post-distillation activated carbon filter. Distilling water demineralizes it, so some folks may want to consider remineralizing before consumption.
You strip the water of essential minerals with distillation. So it's fine if you supplement with minerals. Correct me if I'm wrong, but filtering doesn't do that.
Water filter guru, can you investigate water bottles with filters? That ones, where you have to suck water through the straw. I just bought Epic water filter bottle, but after filling it with tap water could still smell chlorine. Actually I would like to find the drop in filter, and then drink from any bottle or glass without any straw. I had something like that before, it’s called GoPure. But I doubt that it does the job they promised. Thanks.
Do you mean ProOne? If so, check out this video about my testing ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5h87z2rA6Og.html There are not any shower filters capable of reducing fluoride, to my knowledge. The primary route of exposure to fluoride is through ingestion - so just don't drink the shower water 😉
For city water what filters would you recommend? We currently have a berkey filter system but am trying to find replacement after learning of the aluminum problem in the flouride filter.
Well,I got 6 of these black filters in my Berkey unit,and just got the uranium test back. The acceptable amount is .030,and my test came back .049. granted,it's better than my first test months ago with just two black filters. The test came back at .93. so. So much for that. It's depressing. I love the taste of Berkey water.
Just to clarify, ProOne filters are certified under NSF 42 for *materials requirements only* - they are not actually performance certified for any contaminant reduction, as of now
Looks like the Borough actually has more plastic in the base, which might add to the microplastics that may end up in the filtered water. It would be great if they all could come up with a no plastic base (other than the threading screw). I suppose stainless steel would be the only answer, which would add greatly to the cost.
