Great honest review! I don't think there will ever be 1 tool that does it all. I'm surprised about the lack of Euro info.... being BOSCH. I guess that similar BOSCH tools in Europe / made in Europe lack North American info. It's a no win situation! =(
Try the tool now, the 4.x update that just happened is awesome. 60 sec avg scan all modules most cars, and Euro coverage that can't be beat - Mercedes, BMW and VW/Audi
@@DIETRYING001 The bosh tool we had a my school had pretty good information. Only volvos oem tool had betterinformation on any of the brands I worked on.
Nice job Mike. I've learned by watching you guys that having a lot of different options in the way of scanners and scopes is amust for working on 40 different make of cars.
hey buddy, thanks for the review I found it very helpful. I have since purchased the mac tools mdt 10 which is made by bosch, OTC. it would be great if we could talk more about the features and what you have found to be very helpful. also if the tool is capable of testing hybrid vehicles such as toyotas.
I have an OTC and verus, they seem pretty similar as far as graphing and Pids on mine. I like them both, but snap on has a scope. Mine only has an issue with the Bluetooth connection about once every couple weeks it's usually pretty good. Good review
So I was thinking that the autel was the better of the two tools from the jump. The IM608 is gonna be my next purchase based on this video! Solely due to being all around one of the most powerful aftermarket global scanners, jbox, and key reprogramming feature. I’d be crazy to buy anything other than autel!
@@xgcskiman I love the MDT10. I had to sell it for reasons. I did pick up the smaller version a couple of weeks ago. I probably not buy another Snappy.
Great video! I'd like to see if you would do a video on negligence and misconduct in the automotive shops and dealerships! I've seen things that people just don't even believe ! I would like to see other techs comments
Few things about the ASD625 it’ll enter 2018 and up security module gateway (beta) and has repair data (how to remove and replace) I have a few Bosch ADS625, Snap On Zeus, launch Torque and Autel Elite and I really like the Bosch ADS625 great Machine. My VCI box doesn’t do that luckily it stays connected you have to dump your cache.... Jay
The Snapon scope is a great starter scope. The guided component test help the newbie scope user to get there feet wet . But once you have a good working knowledge of scoping. You’re going to want a Pico for sure.
Any coding features i read in a shoot out that bosch don't have any coding features, also question about being locked out, is the subscription portion or is the whole tool locked out? ie scan portion or information portion thanks in advance for any info, looking at the re branded mac which i believe is from bosch any comments would be helpful
How is snap on better for euro brands? Bosch manufactures many of their ecu's. I work primarily with euro cars, and snap on rarely even identifies all the modules. Looking for the best scan tool for euro/asian cars for my shop. Preferably with programming and scope.
The problem with Bosch/OTC scan tools is the lack of long term support. I own a Bosch KTS? series scan tool and after 3 years of ownership, no more updates or support for it. It's a expensive paper weight these days... I wouldn't purchase any Bosch or OTC scan tool unless they guarantee support and updates for several years. Say what you will about S/O scan tools, at least they provide support and (expensive) updates for them.
Same thing happened to me I bought a kts 340, 2 years later no support and became obsolete 6000 dlls paper weight, they try to sold me a otc code reader thanks but no thanks bosch otc. I still have snap on verus edge, autel maxysis and launch.
Thank you for the review , I am going to buy an auttell but I was curious about the Bosch unit. I'm also looking into the launch diagun 4 as a second unit. Once again thank you for taking time to make these videos
Make sure you get a Autel that has US based warranty and support otherwise you're screwed with a paperweight if something happens. Look at the ones on jb tools and look for us based item. Main reason I dislike Autel, they decompile legitimate software and pass it off as their own. It's been proven. It devalues American jobs as well. Yes it's cheap but ha cheap at the cost of your and other people's jobs worth it all the time at the end of the day.
Dale N I bought my Elite on Black Friday at jb tools $2500 shipped love it. I have the launch mini too, Bosch 625 and Snap On Zeus. Keith you don’t really need the launch of you have the Autel if you go with elite. If you buy say Autel mx808 then you’ll need the laugh etc
No pid data during functional test really is a downer. When you record data does it record the whole pid list like Snapon? Or just whats on the screen? When it comes to graphing data the verus or Zeus is very tough to beat. I think my Zeus graphs better than any of my other tools. Plus i like the fact you cant turn that auto ranging feature off on Snapon and put your own ranges in. Having a scanner that can't run a meter or scope the same time as the scanner running is also a big downer to me. Anyway my 2 cents worth from what i can see from your video.
nuffz qualters I love my maxiscope much better since they added filter. I have pico 4425 and Snap On Zeus and I like the maxiscope too, it’s not pico but it still works great for price. I replaced the leads with pico leads
Philip I love it for diag and pid layout as well as trouble shooter etc. it’s a great scanner and has a scope it is however missing some 2018 until 19.4 comes out. If you don’t need it for Chrysler 2018 it’s fantastic. 19.4 will include the update for the gateway module.
Question: What's underneath the red, blue, or green plastic cover? Are these just Android tablets with the proprietary software? Is it the SW that you are actually paying for?
i'll stick with my verus, any scan tool thats not designed by a auto mechanic tool company is gonna have design issues. OTC made a great scan tool until bosch took over the design. Autel is cool but its still not quite keeping the mechanic in mind with their design, maybe lube techs. who wants to scroll through 10 pages of data every time just to find 4 to 8 pids, snap-on keeps them organized by situation. watching this video i can see bosch still hasnt figured out how to display data, and its been what 10 years since they came out with their tablet scan tools?
Hey FRM, what scantool would you recommend for a dealer tech to use on the side for pulling codes and data (by the way I’m from Australia and work at a Mercedes Benz dealer)
Autel don't give you the repair info and wiring diagrams. Check with your local Bosch Rep being where you're at and see if they offer it and watch for the rebate. Also some places that sell them will discount them during expo, tool / parts vendor shows locally as I live in Sioux Falls SD and got mine $600-700 below retail because of show pricing and then got the $1k US Dollars rebate so it essentially have me the next year of updates back in show pricing and rebates in the form of a prepaid visa for the rebate. Remember under warranty and you have a J-2534 programming tool if you add a laptop to it from your shop, home. Best to have a dedicated laptop for programming and a 75amp battery maintainer. Schumacher makes one you can pickup for $500-$600 as you have to have stable battery voltage while programming or you risk "Bricking" the module you're programming. Better safe than sorry. It was a hell of a lot cheaper than my Zeus. I know, I should've waited and kept the Modis Edge as it was paid for then had to pay for the Zeus all over again and much more money. Had I held off on tpms work last fall I could've saved $550 on the Autel TS-608 which I bought for tpms work and basic scanning. $200 - $250 annual update I believe. I added the OTC for $320 for the Bosch ADS-625 so maybe I should sell the Autel while I can get some money yet.
Dale N I can do a lot more with my Autel maxisys elite than my otc evolve and the wiring diagram isn’t smooth and fluid but not a big deal because I have alldata and I can use alldata right on the autel tablet so I do have wiring diagrams on my autel
Sir i do have a question! If you're subscription had already expired can you still use the tool with its function how about the service information? The identifix and the others
Scan tool still works, you just lose access to the service info and warranty on the tool, you can still access any website you have a current subscription to or any normal web site
Hey Flat Rate Master. I currently work at Sams Club in their tire shop while I’m going to college. Sams Club has a policy of applying anti seize to all wheel studs when servicing a car. I know this is a big no no however they still have it as their policy. Could you make a video or explain as to why this is a bad idea to apply anti seize to wheel studs? Thank you
when i started at walmart 20 years ago they had the same policy, the reason its not a good idea it will lead to over torquing, however if you dont over due it and just put a little bit, enough to last till the next rotation, it wont be that bad and will be much better then siezed lugs, most of the torque is locked in where the lugnut base touches the rim, thats why with headbolts on an engine they torque it to a ft lb and then and addition turn of so many degrees. thats also why honda crankshaft bolts require so much torque to get them loose is because the large flat washer is the large surface area keeping it from turning. But anyway, just make sure if your using a high powered impact wrench, use a torque stick and turn down the power if necessary, then use a torque wrench with enough weight on the vehicle to keep the tire from spinning
@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender If you have a problem with seized lugnuts, either someone put them on with a 1inch impact full power or you need to get a better impact to take them off
@@chiefin3615 i dont have a problem with them, but i know alot of tire guys that run into the issue, i do however run into alot of worn out lug nuts that need to be replaced but customers dont want to replace them, i tiny bit of antiseize can get them through a little longer
@@BobbyCulpepper.srv3fender That's true I do see that on rust buckets or 1 ton pickups that aren't in good shape, I just spray a little free on them, which is similar to pb blaster but I think works better and they go back on smoother
That's a $4,700 scan tool... I know because I bought one back in Feb. Love the wiring diagrams and repair information. Try unpairing and repairing the wireless module @FRM . You can use the OTC tpms tool with it as well when you pair it up as well as the battery tool by OTC. I have the tpms. I randomly have to close and reopen browser to get the drive info to work as I wasn't given the username and password but I've got a message out to my local parts house to get it fixed with their tool guy. Out the door after rebate I paid $3100 as they had a $1k rebate when I got it plus vendor show discount. And your warranty keeps extending each year as long as you upgrade. Estimated annual update is $1200.
@@wendellgreenidge3362 I'm not having buggy issues. I made it about halfway on this video and had to stop as I have some things going on so I didn't finish it. Maybe that's something he covered I didn't see yet. I've just had browser login issues for the repair info but if I close and open the browser it fixes itself. I do need to remember to email them so they can get a fix in for it soon hopefully. My local auto parts house didn't give me my login info as they set it all up and even activated and submitted the rebate for me. I just had to open and start using after reading the quick start guide. There's even a easily accessible complete manual that you can read online with the push of a button or you can click download and save it to the device. I wish they allowed you to sideload apps as I have some PDF files from my Zeus I'd love to be able to sync back and forth but I'm going to try a different way but only thing is I'll have to upload and download to sync between devices regular to keep stuff matched. I also have Mitchell Pro Demand on my tablets, Zeus, smartphone, laptop and I need to set it up on the ADS-625. I'll have all of my allowed licenses used then but that's fine as Snap-On gives you 6 for your or your shops use only. I do mobile so I have to be careful as they don't like to see changing ip addresses all the time but when out and about and home I have different ones so I made sure we wrote it by hand on the contract by Mitchell by Snap-On that I'm a mobile mechanic and signed it so if anything comes up later I've covered myself. That part has to do with those who give their buddies access to their account which you'll get shutdown and still have to pay. I'll give them the Mac Address of each device if they squak about logins from different devices as I use free networks if possible if on way to a place and have to look something up to save my data. Anyways I like the fast boot time of the ADS 625, cheaper annual updates and you don't have to pay for the Bosch repair information monthly as it's included in the annual subscription update.
Surface pro 4 in a hard case and screen protector cant be beat. Run a bt keyboard or aftermarket magnet connected keyboard (regular keyboard is cloth like).
Interesting.. I havent used a snapon scanner in a while but every time I do, I always find that the Euro (BMW mainly) features on the Snap on stuff is SUPER lacking
Flat Rate Master we had an autel maxidas (?) and it had way more features on the bmw stuff compared to the snapon unit which i think was a solus. Nowadays I’m on autologic which is pretty good.
I still don't understand why you don't like him. Is Snap-On better? You didn't mention Autel or Launch. What tool can be universal, can you imagine its price? None of these will completely replace a dealer scanner that is made for one brand!
Anything can replace a Snap On. They are not that great. Windows based, not very reliable, expensive to update. Android and OBDll were made for each other. Launch, Autel, and Bosch scanners are the way to go for a do all. Nothing can replace OE stuff, but unless you specialize it's not an option.
