BOSS RE-202 & RE-2 Space Echo [Upgrade From RE-20? And Why Use A Space Echo Anyway?]

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Should you upgrade from the RE-20? In fact do you even want a multi-head delay at all?
Life too short for long RU-vid videos? Please see the ‘Interesting bits and go-to sections’ information below.
Welcome to the show! We’ll compare the RE-202 to the Strymon Volante and Line 6 DL4 MkII NEXT WEEK. But for now…
We finally got our hands on Boss’s exciting new RE-202 and RE-2 Space Echoes. Why all the fuss? Well, back in 1974 Roland debuted perhaps the most loved and still-cherished tape echo unit of all time, the RE-201 Space Echo. Popular with guitarists forever, they’ve nonetheless waned from common usage because of their, shall we say, ‘mechanical fallibilities’. However that mechanical, analogue uniqueness is what defines the sound of the RE-201 and explains why you’ll still find them in studios everywhere, loved and maintained by people who just can’t make the sound any other way.
Boss - offspring of Roland - introduced the RE-20 pedal all the way back in 2007, a digital emulation of the fabled RE-201 in a relatively compact pedal format. Sure, it didn’t sound exactly like the 201, but it did a great job and has remained much loved ever since.
2022 seems numerically appropriate as all these 2s and 0s 1s have reformed for the all-new RE-2 and RE-202: two new pedals that benefit from everything Roland and Boss have learned over these 48 years since the seminal machine. As you’d expect, we have them all here for subjection to schwang.
Now this is not a deep dive into all the features. For that we’d //really// recommend Pete Thorn’s demo here: • THE BEST TAPE DELAY PE...
And to get another listen to whether the RE-202 and RE-2 sound like an old RE-201, check out Andy Martin’s demo at reverb.com here: • BOSS' New RE-202 Space...
Meantime, we’ll be asking some TPS-shaped questions, that hopefully doesn’t repeat [geddit, repeat] too much of what’s already out there. Enjoy the video!
Our old video on the RE-201 • Tape Echo: Echo Fix EF...
Pedals in this episode
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• Sonic Research ST-200 Turbo Tuner
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• Keeley D&M Drive
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• Roland RE-201 Space Echo
No longer made, but check out SoundGas where we bought ours…
soundgas.com/collections/proc...
• Providence DLY-4 Chrono Delay
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• Boss RE-20 Space Echo (soon to be discontinued)
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• Boss RE-2 Space Echo
UK & Europe: bit.ly/3zaTX5Z
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• Boss RE-202 Space Echo
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• TheGigRig G3
www.thegigrig.com/g3
Guitars in this episode
• 1961 Fender Stratocaster - no video yet
• Gretsch Player’s Edition G6118T Anniversary - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - Dan’s video here • That Pedal Show - Our ...
Amps in this episode
• Fender Custom Shop Bass Breaker (2003-ish) with 2 x 12-inch Celestion Vintage 30 speakers
• 1961 Vox AC30 with Celestion Alnico Blue speakers
Interesting bits and go-to sections
0:00 Intro playing
2:30 What we’re doing: today’s questions
7:36 Today’s amps
9:36 Why use a Space Echo anyway?
12:50 Demo of three delays heads
14:35 Multiple repeats?
15:40 Magic mix of multiple head repeats
16:40 Wow & flutter?
20:02 RE-201 & RE-202 compared
23:10 Manipulating intensity & delay time
29:15 Saturation control?
33:05 RE-2 or RE-202?
33:15 RE-201 spring reverb
37:50 RE-202 reverbs, five of ’em!
42:20 What about the RE-20?
45:36 RE-202 and RE-20 comparison
50:20 RE-2, 20, 201 and 202 comparison
57:30 Closing thoughts
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@marklavanish5024 2 года назад

Thanks Dan and Mick! You guys are the best part of my Mondays and Fridays!

@nilsx3020 2 года назад

Super stoked about this episode as I’ve had my 202 for about a month now. I’m really loving it, my first space echo. It really does its own thing.

@melvinhawkins4567 2 года назад

I've been waiting for you two to cover these new pedals! I absolutely love your tape delay episodes!!

@gbarge4 2 года назад

Very cool episode. I'm loving the care with production details such as lighting and crafty edits. Too easy to let these go unsung. I was very struck by Dan's comment on sentimental attachment to the old girl. I really get that. The happiness from picking up my first electric while wearing a TPS shirt actually makes me play better. Or so it seems. Cheers.

@barnshart9662 2 года назад

Admittedly I haven't watched many TPS videos lately. Life style change, less time to fully commit. But I'm very glad that I got to watch this one. I really appreciate all the work you two do. Thank you for all your hard work!

@ElliottCustomLures 2 года назад

Same, so much so that I haven't picked up a guitar in months. This vid may have baited me back in...

@Russell_Optics 2 года назад

Awesome review and comparison, thank you both ! I've had an RE-202 on pre-order for a while now and can't wait for it to arrive. Usually when I pre-order an item I end up having second thoughts while waiting, but with the RE-202 my anticipation gets stronger each day with no second thoughts at all. Great video guys.

@AndyDemos 2 года назад

Thanks guys, glad you enjoyed the demo and I love where you chose to go in this one! ✌️❤️

@stanislavmigra 2 года назад

Andyyy

@denomdemon 2 года назад

This is the earliest I will ever catch this show (U.S. mountain time zone). It certainly makes getting up at 5am for work (the morning after a gig 😩) loads more enjoyable.

@ericwarrington6650 2 года назад

Really incredible work as always guys... mesmerizing ambient tones that just cut right through you esp w the hollow body feeding back.. dynamics are unreal

@TheOdditee 2 года назад

FYI: You guys always add something unique, and of value, even when you do what other channels do. Cheers.

@andrewpalmer1849 2 года назад

Thank-you Mick & Dan. I learnt so much (again) in the video. As a guitarist born out of lockdown, your content is invaluable on a steep learning curve! 😃

@stanislavmigra 2 года назад

Oh man, enjoy the journey ...

@TimBentley 2 года назад

The multi-head delay episodes are some of the best. Fond memories of the various Echorec appearances, and this was awesome. That 202 sounds very good....

@Airfire21 2 года назад

Ah fellas, thanks so much for the shout out, I can't tell you how much that has made my day. I'm so glad that it was such an interesting question to you - in reality I think for me it was quite selfish, but you guys managed to blow it wide open and make it apply for a learning point for everyone. You may remember recently my acquisition of a Marshall DSL15 - which I am still absolutely loving every single day - however, I feel like I am missing some reverb. But I tried a couple of different things (cranking the reverb to 11 and moving the Slo before the wet/dry split and turning the effect down a lot) and it didn't really inspire me anymore, so I went back and listened to a couple of the delay shows and I felt myself seeing the lines blur between the delays that I was enjoying hearing, and what I would consider to be reverb. I think what I have discovered through this show and the previous shows is in reality what I am missing from the sound of the Marshall is a multi-head delay - whether it be an Echorec replica or a Space Echo reissue etc. It has lead me to some more, personal questions about things I may do with my board - but maybe that's a video for me to make. Great show as always guys and absolutely awesome to see Mick back on the vintage Strat again and to see the Gretsch come back out! Big love to the TPS family and see you guys soon.

@Restringlo 2 года назад

Hey guys, been a long time viewer for years. Love your show. Recently lost a good friend, and student of 6 years. He was getting into pedals, so I showed him y’all’s channel, he loved it. Miss my kiddo dearly. But this show brings me great joy, that he’s jamming with all the greats in heaven. He probably has more pedals than Dan. Love you guys. Here’s to Jerod. “Have swang”

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Sorry for your loss Anthony, and of course to Jerod’s family. May he rest in peace.

@marcofioravanti4176 2 года назад

Thanks for the comparison! I still have my old, trusty RE-20. To get it even less digital sounding and more "dangerous" I can highly recommend following treatment: (With a little warning, too..! 😀) 1.) Put the RE-20 into the "Long Mode": Less pristine highs, doubled delay time. A "hint" of Lofi, if you will... Fire it up holding "Tap" and keep holding it until the motion LED stops flashing and lights up solid. Turn the "Mode Selector" to "2". Release "Tap" and tap it shortly once again. Ready. ( To go back to the regular "Short Mode" again, do the same, but put Mode Selector to "1".) 2.) Refeed the signal: Put the guitar or synth into Input A, as usual. Go from Output A to Input B! Go from Output B into your DAW or next pedal or amp or whatever: Delay signal gets relatively louder, a bit more saturated and flangey, gets sooner into self oscillation. Warning: Putting the now "phased out" sounding reverb too high results in an unpleasant digital feedback mess! So be careful with the reverb setting!! And now even the reverb is only mono... But, that said: All in all, 1.) and 2.) make the RE-20 giving me a tad more convincing tape delay simulation! I sometimes even back of both tone knobs by a good bit: Less highs, less bass = more mids, not in the way. To having the delays cutting through the mix, go "east" with the treble knob instead. Cheers! Have fun!

@jjarabejo305 2 года назад

Vintage guitars and loud tube amps are why I watch, and will remain watching. Is to me the only way to go, and I appreciate your doing it this way.

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Thank you kindly!

@AdamGotheridge 2 года назад

"a bit of a hard time doing this video". Not everyday you will feel inspired, or maybe some days technical problems that sap all the fun out of it. I think you guys did a great job regardless. Really appreciate the human element you guys bring, and all that is a big part of what makes this channel great.

@Cesiumswimsuit 2 года назад

Great intro Dan, perfect way to get hyped for an exploration with the Space Echo!

@jimmytreatchestnut5860 2 года назад

Just saw the intro, and I know it will be a great episode!!! What a sick play by Dan!!! I love it!

@artwerkmedia8616 2 года назад

Love the RE202 because all the videos out there made me discover the Volante. Love my new Volante. Fav strymon pedal ever.

@thechannelforeverything2170 2 года назад

I love the sound that you guys dialed in for this episode. Very nice.

@simonhirstmusic 2 года назад

Hey guys! Just a few minutes in and I wanted to say that I love that you don’t do the more ‘typical’ review type thing. There are so many of those, many of them are great and all power to them, but having been a TPS viewer since basically day dot, it’s this kind of difference that has been a big factor in me always coming back ❤️ Kudos to you both hombres! Looking forward to the video!

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Thanks so much Simon!

@davidjdriver 2 года назад

I bought an RE-20 two years ago and I just love it. If I end up with some extra money at the end of the month I may buy a 202 but I am in no hurry.

@Megamando93 2 года назад

I think that Andy's video for Reverb was interesting. I think it demonstrates the variability in each original RE unit. In general I have only ever preferred the tape units, but I think the 202 brings a lot to the table. Wish it had an analog preamp model in it because I think it misses a lot of the inherent texture that comes from the units having their own preamps - the Catalinbread delays are a great example of why it is great to have. Thanks for another great vid guys

@YeatzeeGuitar 2 года назад

Excited for the 202 vs Volante video, been waiting for someone to finally do that!

@jgvideo5512 2 года назад

Thank you for the information about the extra steps it takes to change between the reverbs on the 202. Great video, can't wait for the Volante video!

@kierenmoore3236 Месяц назад

How annoying, geez!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

@Nigel_Shortpants 2 года назад

Love the video, and I love all things space echo. Saving up for the echo-fix, because I love that real tape thing. Just wanted to give the bass breaker a big shout out too. Played one many years ago, loved it, and ever since I’ve felt like it was a dream, you hardly ever see them or even any info on them. A lost gem,

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

We were lucky to find the BB for sure. It’s a really nice amp. Thought I would not like the Vintage 30s, but they work great!

@DoubleDguitar 2 года назад

I have been waiting to hear Dan play this for about as long as he has.

@chedhead3278 2 года назад

Cheers guys, interesting to hear your take on these. FWIW, I think you made them sound better than I've heard before. I thought the RE-20 stood up pretty well, I'd probably dial the 202 in to sound pretty similar. 201 certainly has the real magic ... until it does a disappearing act, love one in the studio though. Have a nice weekend y'all.

@justinbalog 2 года назад

Finally got to watch….thanks so much! Such an epic, thoughtful, and inspiring EP. Thanks so much!

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Cheers Justin, great to hear from you man!

@wadesummers4102 2 года назад

Surprised to see this episode after you said you had scrapped one during the VCQ. Quick turn around! Bravo. My favorite setting on my Boss DD-200 is the Tape setting. So good. I use the analog setting sometimes but I have a EH Memory Toy and JHS 3 series for true analog.

@RubyRoks 2 года назад

What a perfect intro to get spaced to, should one be into that kind of thing. Such lovely sounds from that Gretsch

@jonathanbrown943 2 года назад

Thanks so much for the tips in this video! It inspired me to set up my Catalinbread Echorec so that all the heads are on, and what a magnificent sound, I like it better than any verb that I’ve used!

@JasonMcFly 2 года назад

Dan, you always sound great but you are particularly sublime on this video. Bravo! Mick rocks as always. This is the best RE video I've seen so far. Not a lot of guys can compare to a real 201

@shuster1921 Год назад

That intro was just sick, that Man needs a Meris Polymoon on his board!! He would take that pedal to new places!! Bravo Sir!

@ColinShanahan 2 года назад

Cheers guys. Excellent video as always. As a Volante owner I’m really looking forward to next weeks video. I love the Volante but can’t stop wondering about the RE-202. The eternal struggle 🤯😂

@mattlionmusic 2 года назад

The fidelity alone on the 202… not to mention the features!! Great explanation on what space/tape echo is and why it’s the best delay type. I’d love to see y’all compare the El Capistan in the next video! I know the volante has much more features but I adore my El Cap and I’d love to see how it holds up to other digital tape echo pedals. Maybe the timeline too. Cheers thanks for the amazing content. There’s something so sweet about that 201.. if only it were gig practical.

@alfgwahigain5544 2 года назад

I've owned an RE-20 for about 3 years and I'm happy with it. To my ear, I prefer the slight grittiness of the RE-20 to the 202. However, I think they both sound great.

@grahamkelly8299 2 года назад

Lately I'm thinking, you know what, f the boutique market. The oul boss stuff stands up against them all

@davedavem 2 года назад

Shhh 🤫

@50Something 2 года назад

They are the Grand Masters after all lad!

@nekkon1989 2 года назад

That makes total sense. Why pay three times as much for a pedal that is not even twice as good.

@scramblesthedeathdealer 10 месяцев назад

Aside from wahs/Whammy, and a few PSK Boss clones, all of my pedals are Boss, they sound great, look great, and are built tough.

@willdenham 9 месяцев назад

And Ibanez.

@liamballsculpture 2 года назад

I do like the sound of these effects, classic and on so many recordings , but still fresh sounding when played in the right way . I think the new re2o2 sounds the best overall and being digital you don’t have to worry it’s gonna work as much 👍 nice one guys!

@jesseleite Год назад

Thank you guys so much for this deep dive! I'm late to the party here (given that I was one of the guys who asked you to compare the 202 and 20 in a Q&A months ago), but this was really helpful for guys like us who can't afford to buy the 202, the 20, and the 201, just for the sake of comparison! PS. Hope you fellas are well

@TheNottheface 2 года назад

congratulations on the strat Mick. Inspired by you guys - I purchased my '61 strat 3 years ago. So glad I did- couldn't afford one now! A fantastic instrument - enjoy.

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Amazeballs! I texted Thomas Blug last night as, bizarrely, I was at a party with Andreas Kloppmann. Anyway, we are now all brothers in 61! Nice one!

@cameronlesley2428 2 года назад

This has been a good video it’s made me dig out my old boss dd3 and experiment with it , (I never used it because I didn’t get it!) but this has explained how delays work tape or digital. Thanks x 800ms

@garrrrrryyy 2 года назад

I love you guys , you have the best show on earth when it comes to fender strats amps effects , excellent work , you guys inspire many people to wanna play guitar

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Thank you Gary!

@jtcolecomedy 2 года назад

Dan! Saw the Black Crowes a couple of times last summer and Rich Robinson was Teles/Gretsch into a fleet of AC30s with tape echoes and a treble booster. The sound of ages. A man cut from the same cloth as you it would seem! Absolutely mega sound played loud. Now I have to scrounge the funds for a multi-head echo...

@brymills 2 года назад

YES!! I’ve been waiting for this one!

@jsmuir4722 2 года назад

Yet another great exposition. Somewhat of an institution this Pedal Show!

@SquareWaveSymphonies 2 года назад

Congrats on the Strat, Mick! Such a beautiful guitar! I hope you'll have a great time with it, after searching for so long for a vintage Strat. :)

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Thank you kindly! I am enjoying it greatly!

@neenerheaddj 2 года назад

@@ThatPedalShow - Mick, have I missed where you’ve recounted the tale of buying it? Or do you plan to? I only remember you giving a quick “yes” in a recent VCQ when asked if you’d purchased it. I’d like to hear the story! :) Oh, and welcome to the Pre-CBS club! ‘64 Esquire for me. So far… So happy for you!

@chimichurrimojo3096 2 года назад

Been wanting this one, thanks!

@russellkane9439 2 года назад

Wow.... I wait every week for your new video... great... too much mo ey for the new boss re202 but I own the re 20 and I am very hsppy with that... really beautiful the Gretsch guitar!!!

@zynthio 2 года назад

that intro playing was gorgeous

@tcause 2 года назад

Headroom of the 201 and the resulting integrity of the core tone. It’s a bit night and day to my ears. Mick, Dan... recording quality/naturalness has really come up a level. Great job.

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Thank you Tony. We’ve been working on it a while, but this is the first episode ever where there is no post EQ or digital plugins of any kind on the guitars. All straight from the mic pres. Not that we ever did much post… but still. Feels like a small win in our progress! Cheers!

@eaglerayrob 2 года назад

I love delay and almost always have it on when playing. If just noodling around I've found that setting the delay time to be a factor of my at-rest heartbeat to be very natural and relaxing. The physiological effect of music is part of what attracts me to it but it is also something that can affect my playing (rush, drag, over play, etc...). Tape echo in all its analog glory is hard, if not impossible, to replicate in the non-analog realm. I thought the RE-202 sounded really good. Looking forward to hearing it along side the Volante. Great show Leg Ends. Happy May Day and.....Cheers!

@uelude 2 года назад

Clever

@rockstardr 2 года назад

Yes! I've been waiting for this one!

@dwaynedelario 2 года назад

Another great vid, gents! I am headed across the pond tomorrow to spend a week recording at Abbey Road. I will be asking the engineers to comment on your mic techniques. 😛(of course it always sounds phenomenal).

@RedRose4711 2 года назад

Great intro playing Dan!

@KevinGreen-vx4ok 5 месяцев назад

Excellent demo vid excellent sound and advice

@arbelmaidan3657 2 года назад

The saturation knob CAN affect the dry signal if you set it up that way in the extra settings mode, which is one of the strongest selling points for this unit in my opinion.

@levijessegonzalez3629 2 года назад

re-20 can do that?

@arbelmaidan3657 2 года назад

@@levijessegonzalez3629 No

@jeshely 2 года назад

Others might do “technical” demos better than you do but not many provide a better, broader context and “philosophy of use” than you do and that is what differentiates you. So don’t doubt it and keep them coming.

@BenFentem 2 года назад

Breaking out the proper in-ear monitors for this one so I can get the best the tube has to offer! Excited for this one :)

@jacktaylorguitarist 2 года назад

Even just having the explanation of the way the tap heads work is great! I had no idea how it works on my DD200, so thanks! Would love to see the DD200 added on next weeks shop when you compare the other delays.

@GarryHuta 2 года назад

If you select the Tape delay option, you can turn the parameters knob to change the heads. For example if you see just 1, it's just the one head. If you see 2,3 then it's the 2nd and 3rd heads. 123 will be heads 1, 2 and 3. You can also assign the right or left buttons to the warp or twist function for some crazy oscillation effects via the settings(Tap Division and Preset button). Check out the manual, there's a bunch of crazy things the DD-200 can do.

@jacktaylorguitarist 2 года назад

@@GarryHuta thanks Garry! Yeah the DD200 is great, some really cool sounds in there. I don’t think the bride and groom will appreciate the twist function on the next wedding gig I do though 😂

@GarryHuta 2 года назад

@@jacktaylorguitarist lol! What do you mean?? Who wouldn't like the twist function during the procession?? Try the hold feature with the tera echo setting. My God is it a beautiful pad soundscape. I have mine set to the max delay time with just a little of the feedback and I hold down the right switch when assigned to the Hold feature. That Hold feature is like a sustain pedal for the keyboard. Amazing.

@ralvknights 2 года назад

Love TPS. Im hungry for an Overdrive, Fuzz or other fx besides reverb. Loved the feedback dreamy tones of Dan's intro.

@timothycallahan6234 2 года назад

So, I just bought a full hollow archtop, an Ibanez AF71, and I was plugged in and playing today and I got a proper standing feedback from it. I started giggling like mad, it was amazing, and fun, and all I was doing was fiddling around with some open chords, and running a bit of drive, a compressor, distortion, and reverb. Great fun! Anyhow, off topic but I just wanted to share. You are quite inspiring. Love seeing that Gretsch, I guess I'm just a sucker for f-hole instruments!

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

YES! This is awesome Timothy. The feedback giggles!

@druwk 2 года назад

‘61 Strat is BACK!!!! Love seeing that guitar. Sounds so good. Want a “multi-head” delay. Looking forward to next weeks shootout! Catalinbread Adinecho, and Echorec are quirkier, lower cost options, but there is a lot more options with the big boys (RE-202 & Volante)

@mw-1 2 года назад

I’m still using the Akai Headrush e2! Four heads with adjustable relative levels, spacing, and switch individual heads on/off using jack plugs in the four head outputs.

@eoinjennings519 2 года назад

Already bought looking forward to the ideas !

@AdADglgmutShevanel 5 месяцев назад

I tried out the RE-202 recently. It's so awesome! Definitely overwhelming with all those controls, so I want to try it again.

@BaritoneOneFive 2 года назад

I love the way a Gretsch goes into feedback with a little push on the bar!

@conorfurlong 2 года назад

Love these spacey mind-bending sounds.

@taloujazz9504 2 года назад

My favorite Roland Boss effect, thanks guys. Even better with Gibson ES 335 in Fender Deluxe Reverb ;) but awesome with Gretsch and Vox

@geha6596 2 года назад

RE-2 vs RE-202 --> the RE-202 also has the new and aged tape mode which the RE-2 does not have. great show as always! BTW, When I'm struck by a slight feeling of depression, I immediately watch one of your shows and I feel almost 100% again - it's that "I feel at home and cosy" vibe you guys send out!!! thanks for that :)

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Ah that’s great to hear! Thank you for sharing that!

@lw1391 3 месяца назад

Does the RE-20 have that new + aged tape mode feature?

@tompoynton 2 года назад

was waiting for for this ep as soon as they both dropped

@NoCoverCharge 2 года назад

Got one on backorder can’t wait to get it

@drewdemaio4162 2 года назад

Great video guys. Love your channel. Finally got my RE-202 and thought I'd just share this. I really wanted to be able to use the reverb by itself, which you can do, but only if you turn the echo volume down MANUALLY. My hope was that when I switch off the delay, the reverb could still be on regardless of echo volume or any other settings. I'm sure there is some sort of hack by using the presets or something but this is disappointing as I always leave reverb on. If anyone has a solid workaround, let me know!

@hoboroadie4623 2 года назад

The RE-201 is so stylish, I always wanted one. My friend Art Najera has one, and it seems like Joe Satriani had one back when he was playing with The Squares. (All I could really focus on was that he had three (3!) Boss Pedals on the floor, a mind-blowing expense on batteries back in those days.) Anyway, seems that the Space Echo is actually way more artistic than I am. Maybe I will get an RE-2, but I'm going to keep saving up for that Fulltone SSTE.

@jesperjacobsen2463 2 года назад

I am absolutely in love with my RE-20. I agree that the fidelity of the 202 is above and beyond, but I can honestly see a place for both, as I'd imagine the 202 could be used as an outboard effect during mixing. Having said all that, I think you guys should look into the T-Rex Replicator D´Luxe Tape Echo. While not entirely comparable, I do think it warrants attention as a device somewhat similar in terms of what it does delay-wise. Thanks for a wonderful episode once again.

@tompoynton 2 года назад

They have featured it a few times over the years

@mercuryradiotheater 2 года назад

Thanks for playing the gretsch, there's something about a nice delay through filtertrons that's just magic.

@adrianmiller1971 2 года назад

There absolutely is *some* magic that happens there. I think the RE's just love a toppy Gretsch

@RobFlaxMusic 2 года назад

Oh. The Hall and Plate are fantastic as standalone reverb pedals too. I imagine with the presets you've replaced a reverb pedal on your own. The "Ambience," to my ears, sounded like what Mick calls "every reverb pedal."

@jmsclbwmn 2 года назад

I just love Roland/Boss delays. Have an RE-301 Chorus Echo, Echo Fix EF-X2, Boss DD-500, and Boss RV-500. Really thinking about picking up an RE-202. Could be my main delay for the foreseeable future…

@Bullittbl 2 года назад

Wow! DAN!! That bit you played with red and the 201 reverb was truly amazing! I'm not even sure how or what you did there but it really was some next level playing. A fine example of something that sounded simple but was really difficult to play. I'm impressed!

@dwaynejessome1728 2 года назад

that intro was fantastic!!

@BadCat1990 2 года назад

Can’t wait for the Volante comparison. Hopefully it will help convince myself I don’t need the RE200 also haha

@taloujazz9504 2 года назад

Very interesting explanations thanks because it's not so easy to understand the process of playback heads

@gordonrankin3995 2 года назад

Ahhh I am number 666 like... Pretty much the way the day is going! I tell you I have struggled with reverb for years (not a digital fan, not an in amp fan) and the MXR Carbon Copy dials all at 11 gives me some nice air. Saw Steve Hackett do the entire Genesis Seconds Out last night (4/28/22) and he had some stellar reverb/space echo/sustain! Tone was really great, he had dual Engl amps tons of pedals. Wish I could have gotten a peak at his board. Why is it that I am back and forth to Reverb checking on prices on pedals during these shows? :) Ok still in need of some sort of reverb. Back to the recording room and setup up some analog ones. Thanks you guys great video!

@Sickindian5 2 года назад

Thanks a lot chaps! Finally dream came true for me :) and yous made video. I’ve just started watching but I’m curious how close is 202 in regards to that “organic” reverb on 201. Basically that’s the deal breaker for me when it comes to these units. Cheers

@jonathanyork3636 2 года назад

ooh- next week's video sounds very intriguing!!!!

@bichovergara 2 года назад

Finally! Somebody addressing the RE-20 in the mix

@Elraurko 2 года назад

Can not wait for next weeks delayoff!

@clubhouseregulars 2 года назад

The difference between delay and 'verb was explained to me as being: delay = 'ordered' repeats and 'verb = 'random' repeats. This groks with the multi-head setting and the phasing/modulation artefacts approaching a perceived 'verb effect as aural complexity is compounded. The delay(s), however sped up and stacked up, will only ever approach 'verb because they are still fundamentally ordered repeats even with simulated reflections. Also points to the awesome, algorithmic mentalness of the great digital 'verb units in randomising the maths in a non-machine manner, being able to humanly 'emulate' space to our brains and yet be musically pleasant to the ear...man, there's some clever, clever dudes out there.

@mattgilbert7347 2 года назад

The newer ones sound great. I'm pretty wedded to my Keeley Echoes (not the "Eccoes") for multi-head type tones, but the RE-2 would look tasty next to my Boss delays. The Keeley is a Binson-style unit. You can never have too many delays :) At times, the RE-202's repeats seemed a little bit "separate" from the dry signal, if that makes sense. The RE-20 was kinda organic. It's darker, no doubt. Suited to brighter amps & pickups, agree with Mick on this. I do appreciate the fidelity of the newer pedals. Bassbreaker sounding good here, goes great with the Vox. 34:54 El Medio Stomp yeah! Love it.

@jonathananderson3897 2 года назад

I love you guys. I have been almost as excited about this video as when the empire strikes back came out 😂

@hendrix1175 8 месяцев назад

Your demo is amazing!!

@ThatPedalShow 8 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@matechabra 2 года назад

Incredible playing Dan 🤘

@ThatPedalShow 2 года назад

Thanks Mateo, you’re too kind 🙏

@EricSauerets 2 года назад

Hey All, just one note on the Saturation control on the 202. There is a hidden menu function to have that saturation also applied to your clean signal in addition to the repeats.

@tyronemckenna2541 2 года назад

Another great show - you should have a side channel called That Delay Show :) - BTW I have the Chorus Echo 301 - the Queen of the Roland RE series. A little tip for tape users - these units are notoriously noisy - I've found a great cheap solution rather than recapping - simply patch in a hum canceller (I use the Behringer HD400) on the output. Really effective, hiss becomes very minimal.

@WhitAnderson70 2 года назад

Great video. I thought I needed the RE-202, now I know I do! Have a great weekend.

@middle_pickup 2 года назад

Thinking more on this episode, and the importance of critical listening I had an idea this morning. It took me many years of playing with professional musicians to realize the importance of having a good set of nearfield monitors, or headphones. Possibly even more important is the important familiarity with a set of speakers, or those headphones and their coloration to the sound they project. So here's the idea I had for you all: Do a brief standalone show just talking on the matter to stress to musicians the details of listening. I know you encourage headphones, but I cringe at the thought most people are just popping in those damn airpods, calling it a day. Maybe some people will take the idea serious enough to revisit old episodes for a new listen. Love the show. I think you all make us better.

@fletches4084 2 года назад

202 looks/sounds like a nice bit of kit. Still can't break the desire for a proper vintage Echorec though.

@ianpullman203 Год назад

This probably does 90% of what you'd look for with the sounds but to me, they all miss the unique characteristics of deterioration and random artifacts and peculiar 'misfirings' that a true tape delay has that makes it, well, unpredictable, but also desirable. The one thing that you can say is the upgrade and big check mark is the reliability and functionality that will probably stay solid for many years to come. I baby my RE-201 and hold my breath every time I turn it on.

@scottolgard 2 года назад

Another great video! I'd be interested to see how close you can get with the dd-200 tape setting. Obvs you don't have the extra controls, but you would expect it to be able to get somewhere in the same vein

@mattlionmusic 2 года назад

I was just thinking about the dd20 and the tape algorithm!