Bots In Marvel Snap: A Comprehensive Guide

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Are bots real, how do they work, and how can I tell if I'm playing against one? Today, HowlingMines is here to dispel any illusions, and let you know everything we know about Bots in Marvel Snap so far!
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0:00 - Intro and Explanations
0:53 - Do Bots Exist In Marvel Snap?
1:25 - Why Do Bots Exist In Marvel Snap?
4:00 - Known Facts About Bots
8:25 - How To Spot A Bot At A Glance/In Game
12:49 - How To Spot A Bot For Sure/Out Of Game
17:19 - Summary and Thanking Sources
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@kammeronbrown Год назад

"They don't want the bots to be clairvoyant.." the 50,000 IQ play I got hit with earlier would absolutely beg to differ.

@glim3125 Год назад

At first I thought this game was massively populated but as time went on I began to notice some very strange things. I went down the bot rabbit hole this week and realized I wasn't as crazy as I thought I was and I was actually on point with many things that originally made me feel like I was wearing a tinfoil hat. It turns out majority of my matches are against bots. Sometimes they are braindead, sometimes they have a third eye. I don't want to play easy bots and I don't want to play hard bots, I just want to play real players. Marvel Snap is an incredibly fun game but now that I caught on to the bots and the illusion of playing real players every match doesn't exist anymore I'm unsure how long I'll be around.

@TeamRiosart Год назад

Same here.

@javierlosaslorenzo1283 5 месяцев назад

It's obvious and I understand it, l think exactly the same. If there is no ranking of all real players, there is no competition it is a 100% waste of time, and let's not even talk about spending money to beat Bots! It is painful to do so.

@SilentCatastrophe Год назад

Another surefire way to tell you're playing against a bot is when you Snap right before ending your turn. The game allows you sometime to retreat after someone Snaps even if you've already finished your turn. If you Snap against a bot and end your turn there is no wait time and the next round starts immediately.

@AhnkInside Год назад

I've noticed sometimes a bot will try REAL hard to keep a single location for some reason. For instance I'll be ahead in two of the three, and they'll play their Apocalypse on the singular location they have control of. If I play nothing on turn six I still win because they just don't try to take another location. It's very strange.

@sp1r1tm0lecule Год назад

That's an easy bot lol. There are more challenging ones

@kylespevak6781 Год назад

I just downloaded the game a day or two ago and have been enjoying it but somehow I knew I was playing against bots. Sometimes it's almost like they know what's in your hand or the zones that are going to pop up before they do, and I think when they automatically snap back is a telltale sign of a computer. I'll try to snap an opponent and it'll immediately say they took me up on it

@polimost6570 Год назад

Good video thanks. Some people like bots because they want to be casual and people can be annoying and ruin a casual players experience. I don't expect to get all the rank rewards. To reach infinite rank is a full time job. Also if you play a high collection level vs low collection level and vice versa is not fun. We don't want to get rolled over and over

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

Very true! :)

@PurifyWithLight Год назад

Dang, and I thought I was killing it too 😳

@shephsnap Год назад

liking this video to encourage the algorithm to pick up, this is super valuable info. didn’t know the emoting one changed!

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@sparky1up Год назад

This is the one thing I wanted to know about most. Thanks very much for the video!

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

Glad it was helpful!

@Irol. Год назад

Excellent video. 👍🏾

@japey88 Год назад

In my experience, when I snap against a player and immediately end my turn, I can tell accurately that it’s a bot if the game doesn’t give any additional time to the other player in case they want to retreat. Anyone else found this?

@FreyMagni Год назад

I love the FAB artwork of Sonata in the background!

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

Thank you!

@kylespevak6781 Год назад

I understand that they're using the bots to make sure that wait times are low but they could just as easily add a function to disable matches against bots, therefore you are agreeing to the possibility of a longer wait time

@KotoBish Год назад

Great content, thank you. I get the need for bots. I don't get the need for bots (LSTM) to see the real players' upcoming plays. Devs should take that function out. It would be cheating if a real player hacked the game to be able to see their opponents' upcoming plays, or cards in deck/hand

@skillshottopher Год назад

Not only that but I feel like the bots can use any cards that would be available based on your collection level. The amount of times they've conveniently had enchantress on turn 6 is too common to be coincidence.😂

@SketchyDoodle Год назад

Lately I have noticed that if you are playing against a player with a beta season card back, especially the Wave, Thor or Daredevil one, it is likely to be a bot.

@st3v0n Год назад

Awesome!

@jessierolan 6 месяцев назад

Great stuff. Any new updates in the last 10 months?

@anthonycampbell869 10 месяцев назад

I am glad they admitted that the bots are in fact Clairvoyant WHEN THEY HAD BEEN DENYING IT.

@drbingogh Год назад

I for one welcome our computer overlords.

@doublestakked1041 Год назад

The other day I went against a bot playing negative and they had a perfect curve (that wasn't the sus part) but on turns 5 and 6 they produced Omega Red AND Onslaught after I Scarlet Witched a location into Onslaughts Citadel 🤣🤣🤣

@hypression239 Год назад

If you see someone confidently playing into danger room it's a bot. They know the outcome of rng.

@TheDelinear Год назад

Apparently they don't just know the outcome but can actively manipulate it (i.e. they can change the rng in their favour). Not sure if true, but either way probably best not to contest danger room if you think it's a bot.

@sixmike Год назад

Re: card backs, I don't see as many with the default back as I do with weird/unreleased ones. I see the Daredevil logo back on bot decks *constantly*

@slouchengames Год назад

Do bots only have the dd back

@sleadaddy Год назад

DD logo came out in beta, apparently.

@jefmertens3959 Год назад

Yeah they use the pre global launch cardbacks. Thor's hammer, punisher and the castle one. Those bots tend to be the easier ones in my experience.

@solkana Год назад

Aaah, that explains all the free cubes I've been getting. I just like having the Cyclops avatar and keep forgetting to change the card backs. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@alessandropizzocaro7506 Год назад

You are a very good content creator. I really enjoy watching your videos, you are so well spoken. May I ask you what your name is? And is this your main occupation, or is it more of a second job?

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

I currently work for Marvel Snap Zone full time, with other content creation jobs as my side gigs! My name is Scott Mines, or HowlingMines. Thank you for the kind words! :)

@howardkwon2347 Год назад

if i'm curious about what my opponents deck was, which json file is it? folder location was shown but not which json file it was.

@SamBellman Год назад

Am I the only one who went to check the name spreadsheet to make see if I'd been added after all the terrible plays I've made?

@bladesolar1 Год назад

Ooooo behind the curtains

@murphydaveelte 11 месяцев назад

Thanks for the advice - just wondering if you think you are playing against a LSTM bot what are the best tactics to use against them? Also - why on earth would someone label the lowest level of bot as 'Human'????

@ThatKiwiDudeTV Год назад

I had a bot play green goblin into lukes bar 2 turns in a row. Hilarious stuff.

@amorphisbrito9937 Год назад

Yea as an infinite player I can say I go against bots a lot more then before but it also has to do with the time of day, I vs mainly real people during the day but then when it hits like 1-2 am an I just wanna get a few games in, about 20-30 matches I will probably get half bots and half real people, for me the biggest give away is that tip you said about the rare crackle effect on a base card that hasn’t been upgraded

@stephenwillis6937 10 месяцев назад

I've waited over 7 Mins in a Conquest game before getting an opponent.

@kylespevak6781 Год назад

I try to use the emotes to tell if the other person is a human or not and I have never gotten a single emote back

@harryarmstrong7238 Год назад

Not sure if I'm the only one thinking this but I'm certain alot of bots run iceman and scorpion cause without fail everytime I'll see those 2 played back to back every single time, to the point you could call it! But then I'll come across others that snap at the start and literally play one lane 🤷‍♂️ one extreme to the other

@requiem9167 Год назад

Uh oh, people have been getting real bad messages if they are reading my deck names lol

@AnjinSan1966 Год назад

But now that we can change our name once a month, how valid is that list of names now? Great content as always.

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

Very true - we'll have to see! :)

@TheDelinear Год назад

Still seems to be valid as of this week. I have used it to win a few 4/8 cube games against opponents with bot names making obviously bad bot plays (for instance, playing Angela into a location that already had two cards, then moving Nightcrawler there, so the Angela got zero power). I guess it's possible to run into a real player with a bot name, but the chances are probably pretty small right now. I did wonder whether using a bot name would encourage people to snap more, but I'm not sure many people are really checking the list.

@thefriendlessgamer8552 Год назад

Nvprod is a folder you did not specify which json file exactly holds that information

@peude1970 Год назад

once my opponent played the first two turns into jotunheim and didnt play their patriot into sinister london i decided to snap for a free 8 cuber to get me to rank 80, bless papa brodes well programmed bots

@hellcopterts8895 9 месяцев назад

I was finding odd all my opponents have perfect 100% decks without missing any single card... while i am stuck at collection 1200+ and missing a ton of key cards for my main deck

@banan9377 Год назад

10:50 So EducatedCollins was a bot, I knew it 😂

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

There are obviously exceptions ;)

@sgtnubbings6501 Год назад

Ngl I slowed vid on the suspected bot names list expecting to see my own username, as I use standard agent avatar and the base card back on all decks. It isn't a particularly "bot-like" name (Username is "Meh") but I could totally see some people thinking I was one. Only way most would probably be able to tell is emoting, I'll normally emote back or throw a fist bump/thumbs up at start/end of games.

@Handedamagnum Год назад

I’m on that big bot list as a Marvel Bot, haha

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

If you share a name with a Marvel character, that's likely why!

@simonb4689 Год назад

Which JSON file is it?

@TheFranciscoFm Год назад

In my resent experience, now bots will allways let you win at the end of the game. They can go as far as doing nothing or even ruin their own board to let you win.

@joaopedrobaysf Год назад

My name in Marvel Snap is Johnny. I am not a bot XD My name is in the list as "human" 16:02

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

Unsuprisingly, the list is not going to be 100% complete - there's a lotta bots! We can only go off the subsection we currently have, and encourage people to use that list AND other identifiers to get an answer. Working with what we have! :)

@Akivili420 Год назад

I noticed that bots can retreat if they are defintley losing or at least pretend they are a human being that knows is losing by far

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

They can indeed :)

@classyguy69 Год назад

they definitely retreat now. I saw one pump its characters to murder world then when i snapped later it left

@tylerprime6741 Год назад

Did they play nakia, if yes, probably a bot, if not, possibly not

@allnamesaretakenful Год назад

I'm going to disguise myself as a bot.

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

We see a lot of this, sadly.

@samliu6872 Год назад

I play in the asian server, i usually see chinese, japanese, korean and some middle east name, anyone know if there are bot using name not in english?

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

Our datamined list doesn't appear to show any, but I shall look into it more!

@GiffyPooh Год назад

200👍🎉

@misterenot4567 Год назад

So if I play for fun and not for rank up - I will be play against bots(that looks like human) in online game. This is absolut disaster. Because of it I drop PUBG and Naraka. So it's time for Snap pass away too...

@blaccmajicc Год назад

Hold up, am I a bot?

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

I'd be surprised! :P

@blessall2370 Год назад

Bots that cheats will always win no matter how the player played their cards, they just know where and what card to put on to counter your move. Bots sucks big time.

@RickyMuzakki Год назад

That's only true for bots between rank 70-80 (for challenging climb)

@blessall2370 Год назад

@@RickyMuzakki I was at rank 89 last season, its moderately difficult to reach rank 70 for me the last season. But in this season, I find the bots get much smarter after rank 50 plus and above, I just can’t get over rank 65.

@banan9377 Год назад

As an Infinite player here's my tip for people who are OVERLY worried about whether you're facing bots or not: it doesn't really matter. Whether you're playing against a human or bot your objective is the same, you just have to win the game (and ideally win as much cubes as you can). Worrying about bots is focusing on the wrong thing, instead work on developing your deck piloting and cube management.

@frankangelo275 Год назад

Dude... Wtf? play against bots is shit, literally shit Of course it matters if you are playing against bots Do you create your entire deck from 0 to end up playing against the crappy AI?

@thefriendlessgamer8552 Год назад

Except they seem to have daredevil built in for every turn, rng knowledge if they will lose at a location like danger room etc. And other rng before it happens

@ryanhorton9594 Год назад

It does matter. You can manipulate a bot into snapping for 8 cubes. You can expect a bot to allow you to pull off combos not possible against an aware human player

@thefriendlessgamer8552 Год назад

@@ryanhorton9594 that's only if you get the normal and not the higher skill bots.

@lilsabin Год назад

Well , I think they are cheating to a level that you cannot sometimes win … I have seen an opponent play the same card twice without using any ability to duplicate their cards 🤷🏾‍♂️

@Darksid3c3 Год назад

just realized i mimic bots and get easy wins :D

@YoHazzan81 9 месяцев назад

This some sinister s… One thing is using some bots to make the game “run smoother” but that MS won’t let one know when you are playing a bot or a human while trying to get you hard earned cash out of you at the same time is foul. I have met way too many bots from the retarded ones that makes mistakes that are just too stupid to the ones that seem to being able to read your cards…

@blake33x 9 месяцев назад

Started playing the game after I watched a GDC game design talk. After a few matches it was obvious I was playings bots. It's a decent card game for mobile, but imo bots ruin it.

@user-gi7rc6yr5i Год назад

I'm a JP player.I found a korean name BOT.OMG.

@superhetoric 11 месяцев назад

@coolshirtkid Год назад

very confused about bots being prevalent in gold, i got reset to gold because i dropped to 79 on the last day of last season and i’m still playing against infinite players every single match. terrible matchmaking

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

79 would drop you to 40, which is a little above the 30 proving ground where most of them lie

@JoshuaSMurray Год назад

I don't mind bots being in the game, but being able to see your hand and know your plays before you play them is messed up. That seems more like an effort to take cubes OUT of the economy than inject them into.

@thefriendlessgamer8552 Год назад

Exactly.

@UltimateHibz Год назад

Getting to infinite is very much possible if you play a lot

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

Nobody said it wasn't :)

@harryarmstrong7238 Год назад

Literally! Hate the videos that say get to infinite with so and so 🤣 I'm thinking what a load of shite that is

@UltimateHibz Год назад

@@harryarmstrong7238 I'm not a bot thank you very much. Just pointing out infinity is possible if you put a lot of time into the game. I'm not very good, but I got to infinity by playing a lot and getting better. Definitely thought it was impossible too. And this season I don't have as much time, so I most likely won't hit infinity.

@harryarmstrong7238 Год назад

@@UltimateHibz I never called you a bot?? 🤣🤣 and that's because you had the time to do so, it wasn't entirely down to deck choice 🤷‍♂️pretty much most decks can hit infinite so to have videos stating this is the deck to get infinite is absolutely pointless when it's down to how much free time you have!

@xdrkcldx Год назад

Two bots i've regognized at rank 60 is LiLaLuLoLeLu and 😁😍😎

@hellcopterts8895 9 месяцев назад

Its fine and all to play against bots but why they feel the need to disguise them as players?

@onetruegodhammer5048 Год назад

I’m lazy people probably think I’m a bot lol I don’t name my decks I use generic avatar. I generally don’t emote back. My card back is the generic purple.

@mr.anderson7191 Год назад

It's okay, if we applied ChatGPT in more diversity places, we will be the BOTS ourselves.

@markt8475 Год назад

I wish I could believe the bots are benign, but I have too much proof to the contrary. If they can't see your play and don't manipulate RNG then the AI has become psychic. For example, twice today I had this happen, once on turn 4 on Kyln and once on Death's Domain: I flip first with turn priority and play Jubilee, Jubilee pulls America Chavez, the "player" for NO reason plays Shang Chi into that lane and take out Chavez. Once an inked and once a gold, neither with effects so you know. So the bot knew both what card Jubilee was pulling and the proper counter. Twice in a row. Many such cases too.

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

It is mentioned many times in this video that certain types of bots can see your hands and plays.

@markt8475 Год назад

@@marvelsnapzone well yes, and I'm just backing it up! But Second Dinner's people keep saying otherwise!

@RickyMuzakki Год назад

@@markt8475 cheating bots is only on rank 70-80

@kylespevak6781 Год назад

I understand why they do it but it's extremely lame to want to play humans and be matched against bots. Fake online is such a middle finger

@PsykhoPanda Год назад

Some people in the comments forget Above rank 30 bots in snap Have a 100 percent win rate majority of the time

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

They certainly do not

@PsykhoPanda Год назад

@@marvelsnapzone uhhh they do lol some have a 100 percent win rate how do you think they control the cube rate

@RickyMuzakki Год назад

@@PsykhoPanda cheating bots is only at rank 70-80

@PsykhoPanda Год назад

@@RickyMuzakki tell that to the idiot that made this video that clearly doesn't know that

@danielbaydo9091 Год назад

One huge giveaway that your opponents are bots are when they don't emote...

@tutucox Год назад

pro tip : if they refuse to talk abou the benefits of capitalism , jabs or orange man they are a bot

@JayJayLapz Год назад

Guess I’m a Human player 🤣

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

@_Depka Год назад

I just want an option to turn off bots. I’d rather wait 15 minutes for an opponent.

@G4GSTA811 Год назад

These bots are straight up cheaters!!!!!!!!!

@RickyMuzakki Год назад

Cheating bots is only on rank 70-80

@AtomicSushi98 Год назад

Imagine if developers actually made the game better instead of working harder on hiding their cheating, game ruining bots

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

I personally do not see them as game-ruining.

@leonardjones1077 7 месяцев назад

BULLSHIT BRO!!!! I play against way too many bots at least give us an opinion if we want to longer in the que window some of us don't mind waiting a little extra to play a human

@ilgattoyuumi 10 месяцев назад

love the content but hate the "follow like subscribe" thing after 1 minute, dislike

@jessierolan 6 месяцев назад

Wow, really? So this free content, that took big time and effort to make, is not only good enough to spend the two seconds it takes to hit the Like button, but you hit Dislike? Do you know at all how RU-vid works? Do you want every video to be behind a paywall, just so you don't have to hear them ask you to do something that costs you nothing?

@THELEMISIS Год назад

So the problem with this entire video is that you’re making a video about how to recognize bots based on the fact that we the players don’t want to play against bots. Yet Second dinner doubles down and ignores our requests and chooses to make more bots and to make the bots more human like. Bump this game!! It’s heading in the wrong direction. Period. I don’t want to hear this ridiculous reason of “it’s adding cubes” into the ranked system. That’s BS! They can provide every player with an infinite amount of cubes and base your ranking off of the amount of cubes you’ve obtained compared to the amount you’ve lost. It’s a simple math equation. Stop spending money on this game immediately and your time. They change cards and their abilities without compensation. They don’t make card’s easily accessible. They value series 5 cards at over $200 each. Just stop it. Move on from this game immediately. I can go on and on.

@marvelsnapzone Год назад

I think you have more of an issue with the choices of Second Dinner than a "problem with the video" - we're a news website primarily, it's our job to cover everything Marvel Snap and provide all the information we can gather for folks who want it. That's all we're looking to do here with this video :(

@THELEMISIS Год назад

@@marvelsnapzone it’s not an attack against you and your channel. The point I’m making is this video shouldn’t have to be made period.

@THELEMISIS Год назад

To add to your point even more to buff what I was saying. Make more videos to call out Second dinner for there constant shenanigans.

@Firetroll Год назад

@@THELEMISIS We can't just be hateful to Second Dinner. We gotta give constructive criticism which they surprisingly listen. Also I don't see the problem with bots. They help so that a rank 100 won't face someone rank 50

@RickyMuzakki Год назад

@@THELEMISIS who tf is we? It's to reduce matchmaking time and provide buffer for newplayers at low ranks, calm down satan