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@jjfajen
@jjfajen 5 лет назад
"We're surrounded? Excellent, now we can attack in any direction." -Paulinus probably
@homoerectus744
@homoerectus744 4 года назад
We got them where we want them???
@Engy_Wuck
@Engy_Wuck 4 года назад
well, that *definitely* wasn't what his namesake Field Marshal Paulus of the 6th Army was thinking in Stalingrad...
@Moley1Moleo
@Moley1Moleo 3 года назад
It was a target-rich environment.
@Eric-ut5ld
@Eric-ut5ld 3 года назад
I read this comment like 2 months ago and it has given me a more positive outlook on life.
@TheBigMclargehuge
@TheBigMclargehuge 3 года назад
Ah yes Paulinus Probablus is likely to have said something like that.
@BazBattles
@BazBattles 8 лет назад
When you try to imagine this beach sacrifice... It should have a huge impact on Roman mentality, I would get back to the boat with a "that's enough for me" face.
@Kurvaux
@Kurvaux 6 лет назад
BazBattles wait you guys are here but are like a really obscure comment? Also I like your videos
@vynonyoutube1418
@vynonyoutube1418 4 года назад
just wait till your commander calls for decimation if you do that.
@gustavfrye2736
@gustavfrye2736 4 года назад
the Romans couldn't just leave. It would have incited even more revolts in other parts of the empire.
@Mitaka.Kotsuka
@Mitaka.Kotsuka 4 года назад
@@vynonyoutube1418 i believe the comander would be the first to turn arround and get back to the boat tou
@chocolatepinkspider
@chocolatepinkspider 4 года назад
Not gonna lie, first thought was wait, which metal music video was this?
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97
@EndOfSmallSanctuary97 8 лет назад
That story about the giant human sacrifice was creepy as fuck.
@CarrowMind
@CarrowMind 8 лет назад
Just imagine what it was like being there, especially considering the Romans were highly superstitious, it must have been absolutely terrifying, no wonder the Romans just stopped moving!
@christosvoskresye
@christosvoskresye 8 лет назад
Hardcore, creepy: either, both. I think a certain amount of skepticism is due when all we have to go on are Roman records, though.
@aztecaddress6356
@aztecaddress6356 8 лет назад
It's easy to say that there are lots of Extremists in that era.
@Boxghost102
@Boxghost102 8 лет назад
Ultimate practical joke.
@romulusnuma116
@romulusnuma116 8 лет назад
+Boxghost102 just a prank bro!
@joezilla29
@joezilla29 6 лет назад
"A disorderly mob is no more an army, than a heap of building materials is a house." - Socrates
@ambieofilms
@ambieofilms 4 года назад
hue hue not really. You can apply philosophy to any profession.
@steinmaniac7920
@steinmaniac7920 4 года назад
@Tattle Boad U wot m8?
@kevcaratacus9428
@kevcaratacus9428 4 года назад
Tuong Lu Kim , that's exactly what they were, a drunken mob , stealing looting killing, they had women & children with them too! It wasn't an army with boudicca , it was a rabble .👍
@michaelmoran9020
@michaelmoran9020 4 года назад
@Tattle Boad A good course on practical bayesian statistics implicitly includes an understanding of empiricism and induction.
@michaelmoran9020
@michaelmoran9020 4 года назад
@Tattle Boad I'm rather baffled by this description, the idea of an "objective science" is something I would expect you to mock STEM majors for believing in rather than calling philosophy such. Vast ammounts of continental philosophy have been penned precisely in opposition the notion that objective truth is possible nevermind that there is a systematic way to attain it.
@n0denz
@n0denz 7 лет назад
For some reason I find the rumor about the ruins of a lost civilization appearing beneath the Thames to be the creepiest detail. From what I've learned about Roman Britain it sounds like a horror movie. I would love to see a movie made about Caesar's first expedition to Britain, thrown by storms and met by white cliffs with blue men staring at them, following them silently as they moved down the coast, stalking them in the night. It would have been like unknowingly crossing the river Styx into the underworld.
@quqbalam5089
@quqbalam5089 5 лет назад
The Romans utterly hated the Celts, so it is no wonder they portrayed them as infernal monsters akin to the Gorgons or the Furies.
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
@@quqbalam5089 That's not true at all. There are countless examples of Romans giving citizenship to Celts (both in Gaul and Britannia) who ally with and aid them. In fact this blending of cultures lead to a group known as the Gallo-Romans, who would be a prominent Celtic culture in Europe all the way until the Franks conquered and absorbed them.
@GarlicOasis
@GarlicOasis 4 года назад
@@jamestown8398 I know the Franks gave France its name, but I would say it was the Franks themselves who were absorbed into the wider Gallo-Roman culture. After all, French is a Gallo-Roman language.
@GarlicOasis
@GarlicOasis 4 года назад
@@jamestown8398 I know the Franks gave France its name, but I would say it was the Franks themselves who were absorbed into the Gallo-Roman population. After all, French is a Gallo-Roman language.
@irarelyupload6930
@irarelyupload6930 4 года назад
Jamestown Oh yes of course they give them “citizenship” after they had massacred anyone who opposed them and had totally annexed their land lol
@budicaesar1213
@budicaesar1213 8 лет назад
What happened in that island was a fucking scary af
@budicaesar1213
@budicaesar1213 8 лет назад
*was scary af
@darnokthemage170
@darnokthemage170 8 лет назад
Weeb
@dk.kapsukas2195
@dk.kapsukas2195 8 лет назад
Not really, the most scary part is were they torture the folks in the city. Just think how scary it would have been, seeing everybody getting killed, then they grab you, and, you know... And I thought the battle of Visbey was brutal!
@darnokthemage170
@darnokthemage170 8 лет назад
King Bullmantei *Visby
@dk.kapsukas2195
@dk.kapsukas2195 8 лет назад
Konrad Eklund Thank you.
@candiduscorvus
@candiduscorvus 8 лет назад
This particular part of history would make a pretty great movie.
@riftbandit223
@riftbandit223 8 лет назад
Ryse son of Rome kinda tried that.
@Freyia935
@Freyia935 8 лет назад
We have a regiment on MB that plays Roman mods we used to play a mod about the Roman and Britain wars. Now we just play other roman mods.
@Hasharin14
@Hasharin14 8 лет назад
+Charlie Pemberton You mean, by bringing elephants all the way north of europe?
@jackdutfield6096
@jackdutfield6096 8 лет назад
with war elephants
@riftbandit223
@riftbandit223 8 лет назад
I mean with Boudica invading Rome, celtic warfare, marching North to York, that type of stuff, Ryse son of Rome is filled to the brim with historical inaccuracy, but its a great game for the sons of Rome (*_*) or Daughters I dunt judge.
@MrDUneven
@MrDUneven 8 лет назад
"Throw your soldiers into positions whence there is no escape, and they will prefer death to flight. If they will face death, there is nothing they may not achieve." - Sun Tzu
@steveharvold
@steveharvold 8 лет назад
Note that Sun Tzu certainly didn't think it was a good idea to just throw your men into a hopeless situation willy-nilly.
@lagucegothsong5559
@lagucegothsong5559 7 лет назад
Statistical Insanity You knew him?
@steveharvold
@steveharvold 7 лет назад
Laguce Gothsong No, but I've read his book.
@vmc5351
@vmc5351 6 лет назад
Death ground tactic. Sun tzu
@justafaniv1097
@justafaniv1097 6 лет назад
Just be sure not to do so by accident, as Boudicca's army can attest.
@pcinvictus
@pcinvictus 7 лет назад
"When you surround the enemy Always allow them an escape route. They must see that there is An alternative to death." -Sun Tzu When men see nothing but a death awaiting them they tend to go out fighting like banshees.
@baltic4u123
@baltic4u123 5 лет назад
smart.
@JeromeIsTheMan
@JeromeIsTheMan 5 лет назад
inb4 they get surrounded on all sides and are so tightly packed in that they cannot move their arms *cough* cannae *cough*
@svon1
@svon1 5 лет назад
Sun Tzu´s art of war is designed to teach rich noble Palace kids the basics its not meant to be the ultimate weapon after all it says stuff like be courteous and never charge uphill look at the battle Munda recently uploaded on this channel Caeser outnumbered 8 Legions to 13 ,,,charges uphill and wins or just imagine you are on a hill and the enemy has catapults while you dont or they cut of your supply line and besiege and encircle the hill and the Marian Roman Legions had quite a lot of battles in which they fought to the bitter end despite having many opportunities to run away Sun Tzu´s Art of War i think puts Sun Tzu to shame since the guy was much more skilled than the Art of War sadly the Basics are all most people know and thats why the Art of War gets hyped so much, despite the fact that a cavemen could understand it
@th3omachos
@th3omachos 5 лет назад
Hanibal at Cannae would disagree...
@thomasbrady3827
@thomasbrady3827 5 лет назад
goff0103 but very few guys make it through the escape route and the guys who don’t will not fight as ferociously
@gokce9521
@gokce9521 8 лет назад
the durids were hard core as fuck
@Accelerate55
@Accelerate55 8 лет назад
nah brah, no shapeshifting
@blazemacarthur3555
@blazemacarthur3555 8 лет назад
Druids - antiquity's champion pranksters
@jackj9816
@jackj9816 8 лет назад
They relied on fear and as we see when they came to real combat the Romans fucked them up
@cameronsmith1339
@cameronsmith1339 7 лет назад
Druids lighting themselves on fire going "Just a prank, bro".
@digbick9769
@digbick9769 7 лет назад
Dafuq dude? According to the video there was no proper battle. It was a sacrifice.
@FlyinBlaney
@FlyinBlaney 4 года назад
Agricola: Paulinus, we only have 15,000 men! They have thousands more! Paulinus: then it’s a fair fight.
@FlyinBlaney
@FlyinBlaney 4 года назад
perhaps
@EmperorArghoslent
@EmperorArghoslent 2 года назад
Still not a fair fight......Tell Boudica to go gather another 250,000 men and then it'll be a fair fight.
@abdulrahmanalzaidi
@abdulrahmanalzaidi 2 года назад
I know you say it as a joke, but from the video, the narrator clearly states that Paulinus didn't think he would live to see the next day. Which is probably why he and the Romans fought so well.
@cheez1428
@cheez1428 7 лет назад
Let's take a moment to understand the shit Paulinus went through. He witnessed a horror movie in the making. A mass sacrifice. Then he went and faced around 100,000 people with only 15,000 himself.
@cloudfanlp4923
@cloudfanlp4923 7 лет назад
And won the Battle Gloriously.And If my Question in the Comments was Correctly Answered he lead an Revenge Slaughter against the Tribes that Supported the Uprising which costed him his Job because he was too Violent.....sad ending.....
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 6 лет назад
+CrooK Doesn't really matter what the numbers were. It was still a superior force.
@desmondd1984
@desmondd1984 6 лет назад
Superior in numbers maybe, but that doesn't make it a superior force. Sounds like Boudicca's rebellion included women and children and a high degree of religious fervor, but not many professional soldiers. The Romans cut through them like butter when it came to a standup fight.
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 6 лет назад
+AngryBeaver1984 We don't know for certain, but it's likely they were cut down because of Boudicca's terrible tactics and mistakes. Numbers aren't exact with almost any historical writing, especially Roman, but they're a general indicator for the size of the force. Non-professional soldiers would bog down the superiority of Boudicca's army, but it wouldn't be the deciding factor of the battle.
@cortex383
@cortex383 6 лет назад
AngryBeaver1985 I agree. It sounds more like the Iceni people just uprooted and went at the Romans like wild animals. It is likely that less than a quarter of the Iceni force were fighting age males, and there is no way of knowing how many of them were trained warriors.
@KilnFirelink
@KilnFirelink 8 лет назад
Disturbing lack of red in the thumbnail.
@leronbenari226
@leronbenari226 8 лет назад
Rome sweats nervously
@Atriedis
@Atriedis 8 лет назад
it's so weird how the color scheme made me expect a different outcome. I liked it though. not knowing the history it kept me engaged throughout the video
@awesomeness2595
@awesomeness2595 8 лет назад
Better dead than red.
@fattshea6312
@fattshea6312 8 лет назад
When you have 1 million subs, rember me
@KilnFirelink
@KilnFirelink 8 лет назад
awesomeness2595 Boudicca felt the same way and look how that worked out.
@mr_mcnuggets_6219
@mr_mcnuggets_6219 8 лет назад
Also,Boudicca receives faith whenever a Pictish warrior kills an enemy unit
@andreascovano7742
@andreascovano7742 4 года назад
so she never receives faith?
@mr_mcnuggets_6219
@mr_mcnuggets_6219 4 года назад
@Machine Algorithm Alpha I don’t think so
@mr_mcnuggets_6219
@mr_mcnuggets_6219 4 года назад
@Machine Algorithm Alpha hard to get religion early game at high difficulty, plus later you can build wide and with beliefs like tithe/church property make a ton of gold
@joeyrivenbark5056
@joeyrivenbark5056 4 года назад
NERD
@joeyrivenbark5056
@joeyrivenbark5056 4 года назад
@@mr_mcnuggets_6219 Sorry dude, I actually know a lot about the game and ur wrong
@BrownFoxWarrior
@BrownFoxWarrior 7 лет назад
It's amazing how many times Rome managed to bounce back on the brink of defeat.
@NoVisionGuy
@NoVisionGuy 6 лет назад
The only ones who beat them was their own politics and bad decisions. Byzantine had a good empire but fell on civil war.
@danwar2489
@danwar2489 5 лет назад
@@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014 I disagree on the latter point: it was ultimately necessary to refill the extremely thin ranks of the Legions, and the foederati could have been integrated had the Empire not attempted to exploit them, or, better yet, tried not to pay them with land.
@reinatr4848
@reinatr4848 5 лет назад
@@danwar2489 yes, but they could've recruited Roman troops.
@danwar2489
@danwar2489 5 лет назад
@@reinatr4848 No, they couldn't. In the Late Roman Empire, virtually no one wanted to be a legionary anymore due to lower pay, poor conditions, and a general lack of people truly thinking that the Empire needed their help to survive - If Roma Invicta, why bother trying to keep it alive when it'll survive anyhow? The Empire DID try to recruit more Romans but depopulation and a strong motivation NOT to serve meant that even their conscription measures failed - so much so that people would cut off their thumbs to keep from serving.
@reinatr4848
@reinatr4848 5 лет назад
@@danwar2489 okay, okay...
@beanbag8449
@beanbag8449 6 лет назад
Classic British, queuing in the middle of a battle
@Horatiusxa
@Horatiusxa 8 лет назад
When you forget to deal with rebels in Rome total war
@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER
@LOVEPHOENIXDANCER 5 лет назад
that is why i hit the exterminate option in both it makes you less liked by other factions but it keeps the population in place the worse i ever got was 3-4 slave revolts and a civ war while at war with 10 factions at the same time not going to make that mistake again
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 8 лет назад
Reminds me of on of the chapter's of The Art of War, Sun Tsu talked of how cornering an army and making them realise that the only way to survive is the fight makes men fight like tigers. The lack of quarter granted to the Romans and promise of atrocious fate didn't weaken them... it strengthened them to fight better than they could have ever otherwise fought.
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 8 лет назад
Sun Tzu never withnessed Cannae, though.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 8 лет назад
Alfredo di Nuzzo Maybe the principle holds true regardless of where the lesson is learned?
@ultrasonic22
@ultrasonic22 8 лет назад
It didn't work in Cannae because the roman soldiers were too tightly packed to be able to use their swords efficently, there has to be a minimum distance between soldiers in order for them to be able to us them.
@Treblaine
@Treblaine 8 лет назад
ultrasonic22 Yeah, I don't know if Cannae is relevant to the concept of fighting better because you realise it's the only way to survive. I think when you have an encirclement like that it's too chaotic, it becomes a crush as you get a positive feedback loop feeding back to worse and worse collapse. As they are pushed back, they have nowhere to fall back into they crush each other and as the front line is annihilated those further back try to get away only run into others trying to go the other way.
@Zeus67
@Zeus67 8 лет назад
More recent example: The battle of the Bulge. The Malmedy massacre hardened the already beaten American soldier to give battle to the last man since it seemed that surrendering was not an option anymore.
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 6 лет назад
"He sent out messengers to every little town along the way, calling up every retired soldier still able to hold a sword and shield" and form that came the motto "There is no such thing as an ex-legionary."
@gmat5046
@gmat5046 3 года назад
Yeah, they don't just forget how to soldier just because they called it a day. Veeeery grumpy old men in very heavy armor. Good God, run.
@someoneelse878
@someoneelse878 3 года назад
@@gmat5046 'Beware the old man in a profession where men die young.'
@gmat5046
@gmat5046 3 года назад
@@someoneelse878 Amen. Young soldiers look badass. Old soldiers look TERRIFING. Known as the Plumley effect. Edit last sentence.
@devvv4616
@devvv4616 3 года назад
@@gmat5046 soldiers that survived 25 yrs of fighting. those probably were freakin elites lol
@gmat5046
@gmat5046 3 года назад
@@devvv4616 I agree, hence, RUN.
@KramYEET
@KramYEET 8 лет назад
I live in Colchester, modern day Camulodonum, it's an odd thing knowing your home town was savagely sacked over 2000 years ago
@Cooliofamily
@Cooliofamily 6 лет назад
Kram I wish My home town was savagely sacked over 2000 years ago):
6 лет назад
I mean, if your town is 2,000+yrs old, there's a very good chance.
@axelandersson6314
@axelandersson6314 6 лет назад
Kram A justified sacking though.
@GeorgiawithaG
@GeorgiawithaG 6 лет назад
Imagine if it hadn't been. We could have had a Roman temple in place of the castle.
@davidking6242
@davidking6242 6 лет назад
@@GeorgiawithaG I reckon that the temple would have been destroyed anyway by other invaders like Anglo Saxons or early christian fanatics
@knowone9490
@knowone9490 8 лет назад
4k quality, what a legend
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser
@GrandMoffTarkinsTeaDispenser 8 лет назад
4K squares best squares
@Dylan_Goodboy
@Dylan_Goodboy 8 лет назад
The hero we need
@saihtame
@saihtame 8 лет назад
Not the one we deserve
@unsubme2157
@unsubme2157 8 лет назад
but the one we think we want to need to deserve
@CasperKersten
@CasperKersten 8 лет назад
We even get 60FPS. What more could we possibly ask for?
@Shredow2
@Shredow2 4 года назад
That druid ritual is the most metal thing I've ever heard.
@gmat5046
@gmat5046 3 года назад
Could you hear the solo in the background as the last torch bearer lit the pure? Anyone? Or was it just me?
@sal6695
@sal6695 2 года назад
I got chills fr it's like something you straight up wouldn't think could even happen IRL
@DoomOffial
@DoomOffial 7 лет назад
It's pretty ironic that boudica put up the carts to stop the romans from escaping so she could slaughter them, but in the end, it was HER army that the carts prevented from escaping, and SHE was slaughtered
@helpme2401
@helpme2401 5 лет назад
She wasn't
@petro9227
@petro9227 5 лет назад
I think the carts were there so no roman reinforcements would arrive from behind.
@godmode8687
@godmode8687 4 года назад
I mean how could the romans possibly escape in that direction? Through 100k enemys? I think it was to make sure no roman cavalry would charge from behind. If you have a peasant army a cavalry charge to the rear is desastreus. She propably didnt consider for a second that she could losse in the centre.
@TheGreenTaco999
@TheGreenTaco999 3 года назад
Let me get this straight, I'm not trapped here with you, you're trapped here with me
@Kanner111
@Kanner111 3 года назад
The most cynical possibility is that the carts were expressly there to stop the Iceni from booking it, given the reputation of the Roman legions in battle. The most obvious way you could lose this battle is if some morale event occurs and your overwhelming numbers choose not to fight. I'm no expert on horde management, but the first rule of a large, poorly equipped army in an uprising is that not everyone is passionately happy to be there. Lining up some carts as a makeshift barricade is a neat way of discouraging the 'We'll just quietly slip away after the battle has started' contingent of your forces.
@bobsaggat
@bobsaggat 8 лет назад
That human sacrifice battle, my god that looks like something out of Dungeons and Dragons
@ThisChannelFTW
@ThisChannelFTW 6 лет назад
Much like modern atrocity propaganda from World War II...
@junjungatbos3548
@junjungatbos3548 5 лет назад
Them Druids were gangsta🙏🏻😎
@GarlicOasis
@GarlicOasis 4 года назад
@gillecroisd 92 Go take your evangelical nonsense somewhere else please.
@GarlicOasis
@GarlicOasis 4 года назад
@gillecroisd 92 Go take your evangelical nonsense somewhere else please.
@jasonaustin4122
@jasonaustin4122 7 лет назад
I just loved the part where paulinus just turned around and said, "fuck it, we'll fight and die with honor" and then won. Such a fucking bet
@cloudfanlp4923
@cloudfanlp4923 7 лет назад
Well it was Either Fight and die an Heroic Death to Defend the Civilians or slowly starve with your Army to Death so it is Obvious what everyone would choose.
@bluegum6438
@bluegum6438 Год назад
The brutality the Iceni showed in the first few conflicts meant the Romans were in full "fuck it we ball" mode, because it was either fight until you die, or have your danglies hacked off and shoved up your nose by an unwashed German. The nerve displayed by Paulinus and the simple brilliance of the wedge strategy is honestly very impressive. I'm not surprised Boudicca deleted herself after that.
@TheGreenTaco999
@TheGreenTaco999 Год назад
​@@bluegum6438 "unwashed German" they weren't German, though I understand why you'd think they are considering their barbarism.
@bluegum6438
@bluegum6438 Год назад
@@TheGreenTaco999 y'know after I wrote this comment I realised they were not German and then also realised I have no idea what the ethonym for the native people of Eastern Britain in 50AD was so I left it
@doteleven5890
@doteleven5890 Год назад
@@bluegum6438Briton or Iceni
@Lemonnater
@Lemonnater 8 лет назад
So is it likely that the Druids weren't 'dressed in black' but rather they wore clothes soaked in pitch/tar?
@Nova_Ash
@Nova_Ash 7 лет назад
Lemonnater correct
@gibby5708
@gibby5708 6 лет назад
Lemonnater they were still dressed in black
@DaveF
@DaveF 6 лет назад
possibly white clothes though it is pedantic to say so, because the clothes were effectively dyed black if they were soaked in pitch
@OneofInfinity.
@OneofInfinity. 5 лет назад
Sending flaming druids seems like a legit tactic against elephants 😆
@__WJK__
@__WJK__ 5 лет назад
@@OneofInfinity. - Probably better to stick with/use the flaming pig tactic against the elephants and simply arm the druids.
@Laotzu.Goldbug
@Laotzu.Goldbug 3 года назад
Honestly this was pretty enlightening. As a kid growing up I always heard of Boudicca as this fierce 'warrior queen" and the uprising of the Britons as this tremendously heroic event. Unless, I am missing something, it looks in reality it was basically a giant mob that went around torturing and murdering people (including many fellow Britons) And sacking undefended cities, and pretty much getting wiped out by the first real Roman army they came across, even though it was only a fraction of their size. Being a real-time visual representation of things with narration really helps to paint a picture in a way that the text books from school just couldn't quite capture.
@Blake4014
@Blake4014 3 года назад
pretty much yeh. I've learnt that this boudicca woman was just an idiot basically running on blind rage emotions. I understand her motives, but the stupidity of her tribe to pick her to lead the army.... well... lets just say, I'm glad the romans won.
@buttlord2223
@buttlord2223 3 года назад
@@Blake4014 Take this with a grain of salt, but Boudicca used magic to convince the tribe leaders that she should lead.
@powertogame5558
@powertogame5558 3 года назад
This is 8 months old, I know, but I just want to say that all of the reports of Boudicca torturing and murdering people comes from Cassius Dio, a Roman senator who would have good cause to demonize her and her people.
@Galeforce017
@Galeforce017 2 года назад
@@powertogame5558 It is VERY funny to me you misspelled "demonize" as "demonetize"
@powertogame5558
@powertogame5558 2 года назад
@@Galeforce017 Did I? *checks* Ah fuck I did
@johnvajra5855
@johnvajra5855 7 лет назад
Dear god the lack of strategy
@andrewpestotnik5495
@andrewpestotnik5495 4 года назад
@Alvi Syahri Exactly, and the Romans were professional soldiers. Granted, the numbers could've overwhelmed the Romans even if it wasn't 100k vs 10k. We know the Romans had 10K, I'm willing to bet the Iseni had somewhere around 60-80k though. If Boudicca had any tactical knowledge, this would've been the British version of the Tuterbourgh Forrest
@andrewpestotnik5495
@andrewpestotnik5495 4 года назад
@Alvi Syahri Oh no, I'm not saying that it WOULD'VE happened. I just figure that if there had been a more competent person in charge, they could've driven the Romans into a much worse position and attacked them from all sides instead of a frontal assault.
@comicsans1689
@comicsans1689 4 года назад
Certified woman moment.
@TheTollFace
@TheTollFace 4 года назад
@Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicolvocanoconiosis can you name 100?
@Mitaka.Kotsuka
@Mitaka.Kotsuka 4 года назад
@Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicolvocanoconiosis Really? because the examples they bring over and over again (Joan and Boudica) dosent seem very competent to me...
@joeyvk6145
@joeyvk6145 7 лет назад
why wasn't this in Ryse Son of Rome. All we got was Boudicca rampaging through Rome on elephants.
@Stratacaster87
@Stratacaster87 6 лет назад
That didn't happen?
@TheRomanTribune
@TheRomanTribune 5 лет назад
Cause ryse was never meant to be historically accurate. It's purely entertainment
@huldrrrr9486
@huldrrrr9486 4 года назад
The part with the druids, human sacrifice and mysterious events that followed is some of the spookiest, most eerie moments in history. Imagine the horror the romans would have felt
@MrCaptainPatters
@MrCaptainPatters 8 лет назад
You've become my favourite channel. Your work is stunning and i sincerely hope you keep it up.
@ThePivoteer101
@ThePivoteer101 8 лет назад
That's 300 Spartans shit right there...
@fraser4982
@fraser4982 6 лет назад
mrkti while the 300 spartans were accompanied by thousands of other greeks at Thermopylae they still did the most work there at Thermopylae was still an amazing feat bearing in mind that the persians prob had at least like 200k men
@saguntum-iberian-greekkons7014
Hollywood should do a movie about this battle, with same jokes and same gore as the Spartans did in 300
@jaeger9654
@jaeger9654 5 лет назад
@@fraser4982 thermopoly is small pasage 200 or 50 milion mean nothing if u can only move few throgh termopholy
@fraser4982
@fraser4982 5 лет назад
Hendra Gunawan so it was still an amazing feat by the Spartans using tactical ingenuity which is all I said
@benshapiromemesarefunny8725
@benshapiromemesarefunny8725 5 лет назад
reaperz it wasn’t ingenuity at all, literally any somewhat competent general would’ve done the exact same thing.
@colorboxbooks2432
@colorboxbooks2432 8 лет назад
I actually felt my stomach churn when I saw how big Boudicca's army was compared to Paulinus and then...wow! :D I love these tiny shapes to death!
@MrFerrell55
@MrFerrell55 3 года назад
Interesting fact about Paulinus: He once led an expedition through Morocco into Sub-Saharan Africa before his post in Britain. What a well traveled guy!
@nickcara97
@nickcara97 4 года назад
8:06 “The healthy human mind doesn’t wake up in the morning thinking this is it’s last day on earth. But I think that’s a luxury, not a curse. To know you’re close to the end is a kind of freedom...”
@Pangloss6413
@Pangloss6413 Месяц назад
Call of duty modern warfare 2, truly one of the philosophical pieces of our time
@TheSecondVersion
@TheSecondVersion 7 лет назад
Despite tactical blunders and strategic failures due to arrogance/ignorance, Rome doesn't f*ck around when things get serious.
@gerardjagroo
@gerardjagroo 7 лет назад
Vito C I agree, we see it happen time and again in Rome's history. This is something her enemies never seem to comprehend, from Pyrrhus to Hannibal to Sparticus to Boadicca. Winning battles against Rome is no big deal. The Romans had their asses handed to them time and again. But when it really matters, Rome digs deep into her inner reserves of strength, the egotistical 'boys' who got their armies slaughtered are pushed out of the way, the bullshit that caused their defeats gets cleaned up and Rome makes whatever sacrifices, whatever changes/reforms it takes to win! It was Rome's inner strength that built the Empire, and only when she became corrupted from within that the Empire started to fall. Alaric, Atilla and all of their kin could not hope to succed if Rome had not become corrupted. Rome destroyed Rome, the endless civil wars, bad management, stupid or mad emperors, economic stagnation and lead poisoning.
@mrblack888
@mrblack888 5 лет назад
Rome's power came from having a system of military logistics and replacements. A tribe would commit everything it had to a battle for survival and if they lost, they lost most of their fighting men in one battle. If they defeated a Roman Legion the only thing they would see is another legion marching over the horizon towards them. And they would keep coming until that tribe was exterminated.
@Proph3t3N
@Proph3t3N Год назад
@@mrblack888 I couldn't even imagine the horror of Germans after Teutoburg forest slaughter, when Romans came back with even bigger number razing everything to the ground. Now you got more of them and way more prepared and set on making you pay for what has happened.
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu 5 лет назад
There is a perfectly good explanation that could allow the Romans to only have 800 casualties in the Battle of Watling Street but Paulinus needing to ask for three legions from the Rhine (and only getting 6K in an emergency transfer). 2/3 of his army were retired soldiers he coddled together to face the Iceni. Now that the emergency is over, they are going back to their farms. Unless you pay them something like 30X the normal pay, they aren't sticking around.
@MelkisgoedvoorJan
@MelkisgoedvoorJan 9 месяцев назад
Plus the fact that the romanscame super close to being compleetly wiped out in Britain
@archer1949
@archer1949 8 лет назад
The problem wasn't that "Boudicca was a woman". The problem was that there was no one in the Iceni leadership that was familiar with Roman tactics. Throughout Roman history, the most successful native revolts have barbarian leaders who usually served in the Roman Army at some high level and knew how to use their tactics against them.
@cranaipk5400
@cranaipk5400 8 лет назад
For example Armenius in Germania. You are definitely right sir.
@Commievn
@Commievn 7 лет назад
I don't like feminism, but plz chill Heart of Fire. Anyways, i agree with you Lew Archer. The problem wasn't because Bodica was a woman, the real problem was that Bodicca didn't show Bob and Vagene~! lelelelel.
@asswizardofsiberia520
@asswizardofsiberia520 7 лет назад
Heart of Fire So because of one single failed rebellion led by a woman (That almost forced Rome to withdraw from Britain), you think women can never lead a successful military action? Atleast that's what I assume, because you said fucking nothing with any evidence. OP said; 'The problem isn't that a woman did it, it's that she didn't understand Roman tactics, and the Tribes weren't enough to take on such a disciplined army that had built up for decades'. How you responded; 'It WAS because she was a woman'. Now you're probably very simple, so I'll break it down nice and easy. The reason you're a complete fucking idiot is because this; OP: Makes statement, makes point to prove statement. YOU: Makes statement. This is how not how you argue. You made a contradictory statement that was completely empty. Tell me why it was because she was a woman, not just that it was. You're a fucking idiot.
@martinmlakar5093
@martinmlakar5093 7 лет назад
Cranaip k VARUS, QUINTILIUS VARUS GIVE ME BACK MY LEGIONS!
@shadowgearaudio293
@shadowgearaudio293 7 лет назад
Ass Wizard Of Siberia It was a joke. Calm down. Also I don't think the Romans allowed women into their army. If having experience in the Roman military was so important then yeah giving command to a woman (who wouldn't be allowed to be anywhere near the fighting) was a big mistake.
@juanpablomina1346
@juanpablomina1346 8 лет назад
All right, this is getting to the point where I'm gonna like your videos before I watch them. I don't do that very often.
@robertaylor9218
@robertaylor9218 7 лет назад
You can’t defend what the Britains did, but Rome had no right to be surprised.
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
The last British King to rebel against the Romans, Caratacus, was entirely different from Boudica. He used a guerrilla campaign, and he isn't known to have committed mass-murder. When he was captured alive he was taken to Rome in a Triumph, and before his scheduled execution he was allowed to address the Senate. He gave an impassioned speech about how he was just defending his home and would have been a friend to Rome had they not invaded: this impressed the Senate so much that they let him live.
@Pantherblack
@Pantherblack 4 года назад
True, they kind of started it. You don't just occupy someone's land, pillage their homes, and rape and sell their people without some hostility in turn.
@bierwolf8360
@bierwolf8360 Год назад
@@Pantherblack lmao, why not though? Might makes right. If a people is too weak to enforce their claim to a piece of land, they don't deserve it
@bierwolf8360
@bierwolf8360 Год назад
@o m ...He goes beyond that to say that is why they deserved it. Not that just that's the reason why, but why it's good. That makes it a subjective statement. It also suggests, which is most definetly untrue, that the reaction was measured compared to the original act. Unbelievable, of course.
@nonstopballer7378
@nonstopballer7378 5 месяцев назад
@@bierwolf8360Wth do you mean “they don’t deserve it”???? that’s like me taking your flag and saying “you didn’t make it so don’t have pride about it”
@DUDINCHI
@DUDINCHI 8 лет назад
I also believe that the general that did not go and help, committed suicide because of shame
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
He did. In addition to being ashamed of his cowardice, he was also ashamed that he denied his men the opportunity to share in the triumph of that victory.
@grim119reaper7
@grim119reaper7 8 лет назад
Ok, now for the next video: His Year; Scipio (Africanus) Please.
@gerardjagroo
@gerardjagroo 7 лет назад
I second that!!!
@Bsacks609
@Bsacks609 6 лет назад
Or Gaius Marius
@TheDomJackman
@TheDomJackman 8 лет назад
It's interesting that. being from the area the Iceni were from, I was always taught that Boudicca was brave and strong, fighting the tyranny of the Romans and that she heroically killed herself rather than be captured. The Romans were definitely always the bad guys... Looks like the Iceni weren't so valiant!
@igliffromanini2448
@igliffromanini2448 8 лет назад
Dom Jackman hitsory changes from country to country and from man to man my friend
@francescomazzei4111
@francescomazzei4111 7 лет назад
It's a very hard lesson that everyone should learn, sooner or later. This is history, and there aren't good guys and bad guys... only winner and loser
@BrorealeK
@BrorealeK 6 лет назад
I mean, it's whatever. Almost two thousand years after Boudicca's Revolt, and the only sources come from the Romans themselves. You're never going to get an accurate, balanced version of that revolt. It's all fantasy, so believe what you want to believe. If Boudicca is a symbol of bravery to you, she is. If she's a bloodthirsty monster... well, that'd be weird, considering who she's fighting against. But I certainly don't blame people not thinking of her as the good guy.
@cr3160
@cr3160 6 лет назад
Broreale > Impales women and mutilates and kills entire cities > Not a bloodthirsty monster. Idiocy at it finest.
@BrorealeK
@BrorealeK 6 лет назад
Wow, taking the brave stance of believing an enemy of bloodthirsty monsters 2000 years ago is a bloodthirsty monster. Truly, you are making a stand when no one else would. What a call-out.
@Mephil
@Mephil 3 года назад
No matter how many times I hear it, it baffles me how incredible the roman warriors were. Feels like their soldiers were tanks fighting children throwing rocks.
@vladvah77
@vladvah77 3 года назад
General Surenas would have a word for you...
@shorewall
@shorewall 3 года назад
Discipline. It's how Rome conquered its Empire, and it's how Europe conquered the World. Discipline is always needed, and in short supply.
@unknownzzz5115
@unknownzzz5115 3 года назад
@@shorewall and superior engineering
@incumbentvinyl9291
@incumbentvinyl9291 2 года назад
Ironically that's exactly what it was. You can't compare a professional soldier that it equipped to the teeth to a child with a stick and a few pebbles.
@concept5631
@concept5631 2 года назад
When you are a well-disciplined army on a continent of mostly tribes and nomadic people, you tend to have an advantage.
@vrch5
@vrch5 7 лет назад
I had just passed a test on ancient Greece and ancient Rome and now I discovered this channel. Awesome work.
@dingchavez8778
@dingchavez8778 5 лет назад
What Paulinus did was genius and it started with his speech to his men he put them on dead mans ground he knew exactly what he was doing he maximised his men's potential .
@Pangloss6413
@Pangloss6413 Месяц назад
You’re the sort of guy who reads “the 7 habits of successful people” and think you’re fit to be god emperor of mankind off of that
@threedog8164
@threedog8164 7 лет назад
This and Thermopylae prove the power of heavy infantry
@mrblack888
@mrblack888 5 лет назад
Yes and no. The Persians were professional fighters perhaps but not professional soldiers. The western tradition of battle was shaping up as one of discipline and coordination, the eastern/barbarian way of battle was for every man to be a hero. That just doesn't work against disciplined ranks.
@mrblack888
@mrblack888 5 лет назад
Men can stand in a line without it being a disciplined phalanx in the Greek style. You're going to have to do a lot better than that.
@devvv4616
@devvv4616 3 года назад
@@mrblack888 such a biased take lol. you really expect an age old civilization like Persia didn't know how to fight as soldiers? What about the 'barbarian' horse nomads that just decimated everyone including Europe?
@mrblack888
@mrblack888 3 года назад
@@devvv4616 Does your entire knowledge of warfare come from youtube "documentaries"?
@nocturnalowl9658
@nocturnalowl9658 7 лет назад
Historia Civilis you're the hero we need but don't deserve.
@derekburge5294
@derekburge5294 8 лет назад
Another example of why it's a bad idea to corner a fleeing armor... Doubly so when it's a Roman heavy infantry army.
@loszhor
@loszhor 7 лет назад
1:50 This is so metal.
@admiralrng6506
@admiralrng6506 5 лет назад
*Brutal*
@WarTard13
@WarTard13 8 лет назад
I watched this in 2160p60 and I must admit, the definition on the square things attacking the rectangular blocks was amazing! Seriously though, that was informative as usual.
@ValensBellator
@ValensBellator 7 лет назад
I think one reason the Romans are so incredibly fascinating to read about and have been since I was a child is that they're history's ultimate "bad guys"... As terrible as they were and, if they existed today, as much as we'd all hate them and be horrified by their actions, they're just fun to read about. I can't really think of another group that I subconsciously so routinely cheer against but, at the same time, hope they'll recover when they're down (which is, to me, the ultimate antagonist or anti-hero). Thinking of the Samnites, Hamilcar, Hannibal, the Macedonians and Antiochus III, Boudica, Zenobia... I so routinely find myself hoping they'll succeed despite knowing that they won't, and yet I still love the Romans. A lot of it is probably due to the Roman historians and culture/mindset, which is to say that unlike many historical "victors", they really didn't care nearly as much about being the "good" guys as is evident in their genesis mythos, where Rome was founded on fratricide by a group of pirates and other undesirables that needed a new start and who literally had to kidnap wives just to get started. It's about the least glorious start to a grand empire one could imagine and yet the Romans, who invented and told the story themselves, only really cared about one thing: they won the battles and so imposed their will. This mindset seems to carry on throughout time as, while in the moment they'll often try to claim the moral high ground, within a generation the historians are usually rather blunt about the pragmatic and selfish reasons for their previous actions. All that matters, in the end, is that they were the victors on the battlefield, and so some truly capable and threatening opponents are preserved in their histories as it further glorifies their eventual victories (which also opens the door to embellishment, though I don't believe that was the case with Boudica or Hannibal), whereas in most other cultures that I read about the opponents are often described as hapless cowards or, sometimes, even erased from the historical record. The Romans didn't really seem to care if you perceived them as the "bad guys" and often even reveled in it, so long as you acknowledged their martial superiority. It makes for fascinating reading.
@cloudfanlp4923
@cloudfanlp4923 7 лет назад
Well you are right:They are like the Only Empire which Fells "Human" as in like they are Neutral.One knows their Great Archievements in History,as example their Streets and Citys and the Fact that they Practically made Society.Also the Franks (Todays French and Germans) would never have been nearly as Powerful as they were when there never was the Roman Conquest of Gaul.On the Other Side we always have the Lingering thought that the Romans Just did their Conquest to Further their own Power and that they Brutally defeated Uprisings against their sometimes Oppressiv Government....all in all they are like an really fleshed out Villain/Anti-Hero in an Novel or Series which we know has done some Evil deeds but we can't do something other than root for them. (BTW I am German so please excuse my bad English)
@lostsaxon7478
@lostsaxon7478 5 лет назад
They may have been "bad" to everyone around them. But through their deeds and conquests, everyone in Europe and who came from Europe are connected on a level that is not seen anywhere else in the world. They may have forcefully converted everyone to Christianity through force, but we are also connected on a deep moral and ethical foundation because of it. Odd, but is what it is.
@MattWinkler1
@MattWinkler1 5 лет назад
Lawful neutral at its finest
@StudM01
@StudM01 4 года назад
I think a lot of the "cheering against Rome," not all or even necessarily yours, comes from class warfare reflex. Two equally bad societies: the bigger one gets dumped on. The "underdog" gets a free pass. At least that's what I've noticed from a lot of modern critics. Just my two cents.
@KraNisOG
@KraNisOG 4 года назад
@phoenixkhost if those tribes has the technology of Rome they proved time, and time again that they'd use it for destruction. I think the sentiment that "Rome was Civilization." For its time period is 100% acceptable. (Of course some exceptions exist like the Parthians who were.... eh I guess I'd say.)
@alteredbeast7145
@alteredbeast7145 3 года назад
A real lesson in formation discipline. Like the Spartans at Thermopylae. Discipline overcomes.
@leant6487
@leant6487 7 лет назад
Why does history in school always leave out the bad parts of some 'good' people like ffs, they always make Boudicca seem good.
@BrorealeK
@BrorealeK 6 лет назад
Why not? Everyone loves to read about Romans dying.
@harrisonclifton7455
@harrisonclifton7455 6 лет назад
But she DID get what she deserved! Cold Roman steel destroying her armies
@bkr1895
@bkr1895 6 лет назад
I mean she only did what the Romans did to her people gave them a taste of their own medicine.
@kvltizt
@kvltizt 5 лет назад
Why is everyone implying Rome were the good guys? They were invading to rape, pillage, loot and burn out a people so they could build more towns and exploit more land and resources. I love Roman history but they were so good at winning because they were a savage bunch of murderers.
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
@@kvltizt The people Boudica killed weren't looters, rapists, or pillagers; they were civilians just trying to get by. Boudica's actions are excessively worse than the transgression she was retaliating for. Moreover, the Romans were never exterminators like Boudica. They enslaved enemy civilians, they never exterminated entire population centers.
@magnustherad3597
@magnustherad3597 8 лет назад
i was on boudicca's side, then the maiming started and i was reminded that every civilization is fucked up. rome for life.
@FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog
Did you forget that the Romans raped her people before she fucked theirs up? Eye for an eye... leaves Boudicca's army dead, I suppose.
@nahuatl3092
@nahuatl3092 8 лет назад
+Firefox is red, Explorer is blue. Google+ sucks and Chrome does too. I think the impaling is was worse then raping
@occasional_doomer
@occasional_doomer 8 лет назад
Except the majority , or at least large minority, of the population of the various settlements would have been British(members of other tribes like the Catuvellinani). So even if you somehow think killing roman civilians is justified, plenty of other british tribes were killed as well.
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 8 лет назад
What that officer did was shit, but he was a coward idiot that acted without orders. He even left Britain after the revolt.
@ultrasonic22
@ultrasonic22 8 лет назад
He was far too weak military-wise to stop a 30k revolt.
@dot7601
@dot7601 8 лет назад
do we know why the primus pilus of the other legion denied the reinforcements to Paulinus?
@arthour051
@arthour051 8 лет назад
He probably felt that he could hold the fortress with his 5k better than 10 or 15k could fight the iceni and allies in open ground
@verward
@verward 8 лет назад
Because he felt like facing the iceni in open field was a lost cause. They are estimated to have had 100k soldiers.
@arthour051
@arthour051 8 лет назад
Ward Huyskes ....Yeah, I would have felt that was a lost cause if all I had had was 10K of actual soldiers and another 5K of retierees if I'd been facing half that number
@verward
@verward 8 лет назад
Arthour yeah true.
@TheGuyWhoIsNeverMad
@TheGuyWhoIsNeverMad 8 лет назад
Don't forget, those 'retirees' were veteran legionnaires. 25 years of service. He basicially just got loads of evocati cohorts. No wonder the Romans were like machines
@adamweinberg2532
@adamweinberg2532 7 лет назад
I went from rooting for the British to rooting for the Romans
@joaozin156
@joaozin156 7 лет назад
you are rooting for a game that ended 2 thousand years ago!
@Xmvtjets96X
@Xmvtjets96X 5 лет назад
@@quqbalam5089 It's utterly obvious you didn't watch his other videos on Rome
@TheKripox
@TheKripox 5 лет назад
@@quqbalam5089 In all his videos he goes over what the Romans did wrong and frequently accuses them of lying to cover up their shit. For example, watch his video on the Roman Triumph and how he describes its propaganda, the cruelty to captives, the thinly veiled deification of generals and he even accuses them of human sacrifice despite Rome officially reviled human sacrifice and claimed to not partake in it. This very video opens with him going over how the Romans exploited the dead king's will to get an excuse to enter Iceni lands to rape, pillage and enlsave the population, and how they humiliated, raped and tortured Boudicca and her daughters too. Where is the apologetics here? If you believe that giving a proper description of Boudicca's own horrific treatment of civilians is somehow apologizing for the Romans, don't kid yourself. It happened and he is absolutely right to bring it up. The Roman treatment of the Iceni was evil, and the mass torture and slaughter Boudicca's army wrought was also evil.
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 5 лет назад
@JL-CptAtom you say while watching a video where atrocities are committed by everyone
@PowercraftSE
@PowercraftSE 5 лет назад
@JL-CptAtom Ok Hitler calm down. The Bengalis died because of scorched earth, you might as well blame the Japanese, it's called war. Dresden is insignificant and really only taken seriously by holocaust deniers and Wehrmacht apologists, it was a significant strategical target and it was war. The potato famine, yeah pretty much the fault of the English but at least it wasn't deliberate, just their own incompetence and pig-headed economic policy.
@toddharig8142
@toddharig8142 8 лет назад
Damn, this episode literally gave me goosebumps. Well done Civilis!
@derekburm
@derekburm 5 лет назад
"They didn't even plant crops" That's how you know they're serious... Also, no Romans noticed that awfully strange behavior?
@andrewpestotnik5495
@andrewpestotnik5495 4 года назад
There were no Romans stationed nearby.
@spfinc1212
@spfinc1212 8 лет назад
Great video! Loved that extra detail with the druids. Can't wait for the next, but very good work and I wish to extend a form of encouragement as this channel has formed a very good fan base, and you are one of the only like able Historians on youtube, as myself an amateur historian, I am very satisfied with your tone of voice and genuine interest in the subject. So please I hope you continue this excellent work and do not get down trodden by the inevitable complaints.
@UncleMerlin
@UncleMerlin 6 лет назад
80k for 80k, "an eye for an eye"
@abthetheic4391
@abthetheic4391 5 лет назад
'I don't distrust you because you're a woman. I distrust you because you're not as smart as you think you are' He was right! :)
@ignotumperignotius630
@ignotumperignotius630 5 лет назад
@@junjungatbos3548 her love killed thousands.
@junjungatbos3548
@junjungatbos3548 5 лет назад
@@ignotumperignotius630 maybe they saw it like "if we gonna die, lets all die together"
@warshipsatin8764
@warshipsatin8764 4 года назад
@@junjungatbos3548 then why did she let them all die while she ran away like a coward?
@junjungatbos3548
@junjungatbos3548 4 года назад
@@warshipsatin8764 what, you think she was fuckin wonder woman?
@Izzy777-_-
@Izzy777-_- 4 года назад
@@junjungatbos3548 Obviously not because she had almost no plan to defeat the Romans, no research on how they work and fight,no knowlege of the hundreds of tribes that did the same thing she did and failed. She was far from wonder woman. She was one of the most incompetent field commanders in history. If you want to make a revolt at least do an iota of planning to defeat your opponent.
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns 8 лет назад
Nice video but a few errors. First 80,000 Iceni were not killed, because the Iceni tribe according to the tribal museum in East Anglia only had 40,000 members, men, women, children, old people and babies, the allied Trinovantes only around 30,000 population. Contemporary estimates based on population of the tribes involved would make the British army 20-25,000 strong maximum. Which is consistent with other British armies of the period, such as those of Caractacus, Cassivellaunus and at Mons Grapius which were all around 20-25,000 strong according to Roman chroniclers while Venutius's considerably smaller. Also the tribes/confederations that made these armies were larger in population than Boudicca's. The fact these numbers are so consistent has been noted by military historian as demonstrating the maximum possible army size logistics for Britain at that time. A second error is saying that it was Romans killed by Boudicca. While the Romans in the three cities that were sacked were killed they were a small minority of the population, most of the inhabitants were British. Primarily members of the Catuvellinani tribe, the cities being on their territory, who were the hated foes of the Iceni and Trinovantes. The Catuvellinani tribe had been the most powerful tribe in southern England before the conquest and dominated the smaller tribes such as the Iceni. When the Romans came it was the Catuvellinani tribe that fought the conquest while the Iceni backed the Romans. During Boudicca's revolt she was taking the opportunity to settle some internal British politics. And her revolt killed many times the number of British than it did Romans. Hardly the great patriotic rising............. When you say largest conflict ever to occur on British soil if you mean battle, that would be Towton 1461. If you mean war, it would be the War of Three kingdoms which killed 12% of people in the country and had over a million participants. If by single army, that would either be Severus's invasion of Scotland or Claudius's invasion force.
@sammycw2000
@sammycw2000 8 лет назад
I think he was saying largest battle to occur on British soil in the Roman period. Since that is entirely what this channel is about. And just because he said Romans were killed by Boudicca does not mean he's disregarding all the Britons who were slaughtered, he used it to emphasise the point that many of the Roman colonisers had just been wiped out. Can I have some sources on the army sizes, that sounds interesting.
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns 8 лет назад
As they were called Roman settlements in the video, Boudicca is described as attacking the Roman,s a Roman army is trying to protect them and all the talk was of Romans being killed, whether intentional of not it implies the people being killed and the civilians were Romans. It actually quite a major historical point the civilians were mostly Catuvelliani. Tacitus, Dio Cassius and Caesar's Gallics Wars give commentriess on the early British armies, figures for Mons Grapius come from Tacitus however the Romans tended to overestimate size so they may actuually have been smaller. Figures for the Catuvalliani that militry historians use tends to come from the estimate of 1/3 of tribe available as warriors in tribal societies. The archaeological excavations of Serverus camps in Scotland suggest his numbers, which can be read about here, archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archiveDS/archiveDownload?t=arch-352-1/dissemination/pdf/vol_107/107_092_102.pdf
@moonknightish
@moonknightish 8 лет назад
But.. weren't they citizens of the Empire? This makes them Romans, despite what their ethnicity was
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns 8 лет назад
Alfredo di Nuzzo Nope, Roman citizenship wasn't extended to conquered people for another 200 years. Also had citizenship been extended back then instead of 200 years later, that would make Boudicca and the Iceni Roman too and it would have been a Roman civil war, Roman killing Roman.
@tengokuro
@tengokuro 8 лет назад
Very good mate, thanks for the info ;) I'm gonna research about all this stuff you mentioned. I'm specially curious about this battle of Towton and this war of the Three kingdoms....
@theindooroutdoorsman
@theindooroutdoorsman 3 года назад
6,000 replacements would be a full legion and 1,000 leftover. Adding a third legion to the island after such a massive uprising only makes sense. So the 400/400 sounds fairly accurate.
@darklight6013
@darklight6013 4 года назад
When you put quantity against quality... all that huge mass of warriors simply dissolved under the fury of the roman legionaries, just like snow under the sun.
@michaelpisciarino5348
@michaelpisciarino5348 5 лет назад
0:45 Rape 1:05 REVOLT AGAINST ROME 1:24 Paulinus Campaign 1:50 Druids, Flaming Sticks, Chanting, Shouting 2:30 Rome Cuts them down. 2:55 This was a massive Human Sacrifice!!! 3:30 Dark Omens 3:59 Boudicca Campaign 4:30 OMG 5:30 The Chase Is ON 9:00 Wedge Charge! 10:00 Battle Became Slaughter
@thefrosty1925
@thefrosty1925 8 лет назад
OH HOW THE GOD'S HAVE BLESSED US THIS DAY! MAY A THOUSAND CHEERS BE HEARD THROUGHOUT MOTHER ROME FOR CIVILIS HAS RELEASED A NEW VIDEO! MAY GODDESS MINERVA HERSELF BLESS THIS DEAR MAN!
@shotgunwound
@shotgunwound 5 лет назад
Your videos are fantastic, I'm addicted. Thank you
@brandonprendergast8342
@brandonprendergast8342 3 года назад
Pretty much any barbarian revolt in Roman history: Oh this has potential to go somewhere annnnnnd stoped by the local governor
@Iron936
@Iron936 7 лет назад
"In Death Ground, fight." ~ Sun Tzu
@Pangloss6413
@Pangloss6413 Месяц назад
and I’d say he knows a little more about fighting than you do, pal, because he INVENTED IT! And then he perfected it so that no living man could best him in the ring of honor! Then he used his fight money to buy 2 of every animal on earth! Then he herded them onto a boat and then he BEAT THE CRAP OUT EVERY SINGLE ONE! and from that day forward, every time a bunch of animals are together in one place it’s called a TZU! Unless it’s a farm!
@erlendjohanmyrhaug4537
@erlendjohanmyrhaug4537 7 лет назад
This would make an interesting, historical movie.
@stevie5989
@stevie5989 6 лет назад
check out the show "Britannia"
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 6 лет назад
At first glance this seems to be perfect Hollywood material. Think of it. An overwelming murdering and torturing horde. The last stand of the small detachment sent to defend Londinium. The veterans recalled in haste. The Roman commander offering protection for those that evacuated the city, but only a part of the inhabitants followed him (partly because they had all of their possession there and hoped the devil was not so black as it was painted, partly because they, or their elders, couldn't keep the pace. Families torn apart...). Then, a desperate last stand of the soldiers to cover the fleeing civilians. However we'll never see it because: 1) The Roman commander wasn't some lower officer that had to take the lead after the death of his superior. He was the fucking Governor, so the one that should have prevented the troubles in first place. 2) There had never been a moment, in the final battle, when the Romans were on the verge of annihilation. They won easily. 3) The horde happened to be "British". 4) The amateur tactician that led the torturing horde to it's final demise happened to be a woman, and to depict a woman as an incompetent leader in a movie would be seen as sexism.
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
@@neutronalchemist3241 Those problems have solutions. 1) You can make the story from the POV of Gnaeus Julius Agricola, a lower ranking Officer in Paulinus's army. Or create another such officer under Paulinus' command (in this case you can add drama by claiming his family died at Camulodunum). 2) It could still be made a dramatic battle. Exhausted, half-starved soldiers (some of whom are aged veterans) fighting against a numerically superior force. 3) As "Braveheart" and "The Patriot" show, British people can be made into villains quite easily.
@StudM01
@StudM01 4 года назад
@@neutronalchemist3241 Hehe, admittedly, this would make it a difficult sell. Plus you wouldn't have a "good guy" per say. But you could make it work. As for the feminazis bitching and moaning that the woman is not portrayed as inherently superior in every way: f*ck their supremacist dogma. Idiots come in both shapes, and all colors. Let's make the movie and let them screech in pain while the rest of the world enjoys the accurate history and good storytelling. ; )
@ois999
@ois999 5 лет назад
Boudica is one of the most overrated historical figures of all time. So she killed a considerably outnumbered Roman detachment of soldiers, burned down three settlements with inhuman cruelty, and was then absolutely annihilated by an army ten times as smaller than hers. Wow, truly amazing stuff...
@junjungatbos3548
@junjungatbos3548 5 лет назад
@@alexanderwasley5105 thats right bitch
@Walterdecarvalh0100
@Walterdecarvalh0100 4 года назад
@@junjungatbos3548 idiot
@CThyran
@CThyran 4 года назад
@@junjungatbos3548 For the price of 3 suffering killing entire settlements is just? Get out, she got what she deserved.
@user-yd4om1qw3n
@user-yd4om1qw3n 2 года назад
Fucking based af
@JayJay-dp8ky
@JayJay-dp8ky 2 года назад
@@user-yd4om1qw3n Historical KDA matters.
@haumations1910
@haumations1910 8 лет назад
You deserve way moar than 100k subs, I think you deserve millions of subs, ur vids are so good.
@sierranevada806
@sierranevada806 8 лет назад
Well done with the chanting sound during the sacrifice at Anglesey! It created a great eerie feel. Keep up the good work!
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 8 лет назад
10:53 "Including children and non-combatants" When woman are in the army, there *are* no non-combatants, since you can't tell the difference between the two. (Same with guerrillas in Vietnam.)
@cloudfanlp4923
@cloudfanlp4923 8 лет назад
Well there are People who are Unarmed,as example Maybe the ones who drove the Supply Wagons. But that is Just a Theorie.
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 8 лет назад
cloudfanlp _Well there are People who are Unarmed_ How long does it take to hide your rifle and change into some civvies? _Maybe the ones who drove the Supply Wagons._ The people who drive army's supply wagons are legitimate targets.
@cloudfanlp4923
@cloudfanlp4923 8 лет назад
RonJohn63 Well I just Tried to Answer your Question and the fact that they were Legitimate Targets doesn't mean that they were not non-combatants
@RonJohn63
@RonJohn63 8 лет назад
cloudfanlp Ah, sorry. I interpreted your comment as unarmed people always being noncombatants.
@cloudfanlp4923
@cloudfanlp4923 8 лет назад
RonJohn63 Well I don't Think Boudicca had Only Soldiers with her.....Maybe they had People who didn't fight and Rather Gathered Firewood or supplys or did some other Work. But you don't have to take me Seriously,I am Just Rambling about this Surprising Battle.
@firstcynic92
@firstcynic92 8 лет назад
Sopranos style ending? "The Romans would occupy Britain for the next three hun..."
@zacharysain8516
@zacharysain8516 6 лет назад
The zombie survival guide turns this event into a massive outbreak that the romans quell, it’s a really cool story
@theproplady
@theproplady 5 лет назад
Holy shit! That flaming Druid sacrifice thing sounds metal as fuck! If I were a Norwegian Death metal band, I'd definitely put a picture of that on my album cover.
@saihtame
@saihtame 8 лет назад
And the quality yet again rose! This channel has come far!
@ELETRIKDOG001
@ELETRIKDOG001 8 лет назад
wooooooo Paulinus what a man
@Raz.C
@Raz.C 6 лет назад
Re: Casualties. The Ninth, which was destroyed (but for its cavalry) was reinforced. Of those 6,000 men you say were sent to Britain, ~5,000 would have gone into reforming the ten infantry cohorts of the 9th legion, which would remain in Britain. The remaining 1,000 would presumably have partially reinforced Paulinus 14th legion (400 for those killed and maybe another 200 to replace those who were injured an unfit for further military service), leaving 400 men to reinforce the 20th legion. Or perhaps to replace town militias/ guard for settlements? Considering the large number of men who went into reforming Legio IX Hispania, I don't think the reports of Roman casualties (Battle vs Boudicca) were exaggerated very much at all. In fact, they seem almost precisely accurate.
@TecumsehSherman36
@TecumsehSherman36 5 лет назад
WHEN ROMAN LEGIONS PAIRED UP WITH COMPETENT LEADERS...THEY KICKED ASS LIKE NO ONE ELSE!!!!
@Nemoticon
@Nemoticon 8 лет назад
2:56 That's actually creepy as hell. It's one thing to be trained and experienced in fighting enemy soldiers, but to be subjected to THIS kind of fanatical insanity, basically a suicide charge... it completely changes the scenario. It's dark and primal and strike to the core of your soul (if you have one). A sign of things to come, proved by how following events unfolded.
@BrockSamson18
@BrockSamson18 8 лет назад
Bro, this is your best video yet. Well fucking done.
@MyRkAcc
@MyRkAcc 6 лет назад
So there was only one real battle, with advantage in numbers and good equipment, but still all went to hell for her in that one real battle. Not really as epic as the "warrior queen" i was taught she was as a queen.
@krixpop
@krixpop 6 лет назад
She bravely led her people to total annihilation...
@michaelhenry3234
@michaelhenry3234 6 лет назад
+krix pop After heroically butchering and torching civilian women and children...
@neutronalchemist3241
@neutronalchemist3241 6 лет назад
Her only military accomplishment, first to led all of her army to total annihilation vs a force ten times smaller, was to have beaten a small Roman detachment at Londinium, having great numerical advantage, and with the legionaries not able to move (because they were protecting the local population). Not really a great tactician.
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
Boudica was a bad military leader AND a bad human being.
@elzian4975
@elzian4975 5 лет назад
It does seem like she had some ability in logistics if she managed to raise such a big army without the Romans noticing.
@spin6668
@spin6668 4 года назад
Have you got a source on the druids setting themselves on fire? The closest thing I could find was a BBC article saying the Romans burnt them after they died on a make shift funeral pier.
@CaliforniaSolder
@CaliforniaSolder 4 года назад
Ahhh Boudicca, imortilized for slaughtering villages and civilians and immediately losing to two legions.
@WOranos
@WOranos 3 года назад
Yeah. She's often considered this great hero, but all she managed to do was sack three undefended towns, murder thousands of civilians and lose the only military engagement she fought. And she lost it so overwhelmingly that she slinks off afterwards and commits suicide. Had this been a man, he would be no more than a historical footnote.
@TheCulexus
@TheCulexus 3 года назад
@@WOranos be fair. She destroyed the IX Hispania legion in a battle where she outnumbered them 48 to 1
@booradley6832
@booradley6832 3 года назад
This is our best lead so far. The question of "How many toddlers could you take on at once," the balance starts to favor the toddlers around 48.
@kainan613
@kainan613 8 лет назад
That was a truly fantastic video, great work! I was enthralled the entire way through, so horrible, yet so interesting.
@blakelester1776
@blakelester1776 6 лет назад
My personal favorite of your videos and it doesn’t even have Caesar in it
@TimmacTR
@TimmacTR 8 лет назад
Holy fuck never heard of this. Why dont they make movies about this instead of these braindead marvel movies.. wow..
@Jasmic0137
@Jasmic0137 8 лет назад
Very well done as always! These are very informative and fun to watch! Thanks and keep up the great work :)
@Dostoron
@Dostoron Год назад
Roman: We can't escape sir. Paulinus: bad for them.
@paulliu8502
@paulliu8502 8 лет назад
why am i so happy the romans won?
@chickenmonger123
@chickenmonger123 8 лет назад
Maybe? I mean, the history was written by romans. And the romans got super in to the raping and killing first.
@paulliu8502
@paulliu8502 8 лет назад
^what chickenmonger said. both sides performed massacres but at the same time both sides see themselves as the good guys.
@TheSolsticeSounds
@TheSolsticeSounds 7 лет назад
petargrad How was it good vs evil? Like I've said before all this was reported and recorded by roman historians with biases
@TheSolsticeSounds
@TheSolsticeSounds 7 лет назад
petargrad Reported by Romans I'm saying that it is clearly exaggerated
@eaglecohort5259
@eaglecohort5259 7 лет назад
Connor Senier not really...Listen, despite my name, I'm no Roman Empire fanboy. They were narcissistic, psychotic, Imperialists who stopped at nothing to fulfill their vision of world conquest. However; the butcherings of the 3 cities is clearly not a fabrication or even exaggerated, and pretty much every civilization in the ancient world was horrible by modern standards with the possible exception of ancient Persia. Not only is there clear archeological evidence of a massacre at these 3 locations and cities out to the torch, but most of the sources from the era are non-Roman British eye witnesses among the refugees of the destroyed cities, as Romans were still a vast minority in all these population centers. In conclusion, your hatred of Rome is justified, but ignoring the facts isn't, and painting Rome's enemies as saints is just as idiotic as having a positive moral view of Rome.
@spajderuz
@spajderuz 3 года назад
So she only slaugtered civilians and got rekt in the one fight when she should have won.
@randomcenturion7264
@randomcenturion7264 2 года назад
Pretty much.
@litelsnek2226
@litelsnek2226 2 года назад
Yeap
@randomlyentertaining8287
@randomlyentertaining8287 5 лет назад
10:45 Kill 'em all and let Jupiter sort 'em out. EDIT: I like to imagine the Romans fighting like the Spartans in 300. "No Prisoners!" "AROO" "No Mercy!" "AROO"
@ayebarberfuckmeup4689
@ayebarberfuckmeup4689 4 года назад
I have a Test on Boudicca and was just searching for some videos to watch when yours popped up. Perfect, I can learn and be entertained at the same time!
@CheifxChill
@CheifxChill 8 лет назад
I love this channel. Never stop
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 7 лет назад
Camulodunum = "Camelot"?
@cthuluhoop7439
@cthuluhoop7439 4 года назад
Lmao what? No. Camulodunum is Colchester today. Camelot is fictional, you realise that right? What a dumb fuck.
@malekofthegreen738
@malekofthegreen738 4 года назад
@@cthuluhoop7439 Get the flaming stick outta your ass. No one gives a fuck
@Robi2009
@Robi2009 7 лет назад
So Iceni tactic was same as Soviet in WWII - "throw some men into fight, if they die, throw some other men and hope enemies will die faster than we"
@watarimono17
@watarimono17 6 лет назад
Tell us some more retarded things, thanks.
@patriot9487
@patriot9487 6 лет назад
That is exactly what the filthy Soviets did during WW2. Stalin and his Generals had no fucks to give about the Russian/Slavic people dying in the millions at the frontlines. Many Slavs actually joined the Germans because they hated the USSR so much. Boudica did the same tactic and failed horribly.
@MrCristianposso
@MrCristianposso 6 лет назад
It seems people dont know about Deep Battle.
@yochaiwyss3843
@yochaiwyss3843 6 лет назад
Have you ever Heard of the Deep Operation Tactics? Or the Revolutionary use of Snipers and Combined Arms Forces? Of course not, you closed your ears with wax and sung "La La La"
@program4215
@program4215 5 лет назад
@@yochaiwyss3843 Deep battle was a good strategy, but not brilliant. It only worked so well precisely because of the Soviet numerical superiority and the vastness of Russia. If the Germans had equal amounts of men, supplies, fuel etc. Deep Battle would not have made a difference. That is the important part when discussing how good a strategy is. Even without deep battle the Soviets would still win. Germany encircled and destroyed millions of soviet troops in the first few months of the war with brilliant encircling maneuvers. Losing your entire army right off the bat is simply something no other nation would have been able to recover from. Nobody else could've survived that. The Soviets were militarily incompetent at the beginning of the war, and the only thing that saved them was their massive population, natural resources, and enormous distances. This gave them the time they needed to rebuild their army and learn to fight the Germans.
@hitrapperandartistdababy
@hitrapperandartistdababy 5 лет назад
Incredibly noble of Paulinus to advice thousands of citizens from several city to follow him for their own safety, he could have just left them but then again he risked it with a minimum if troops.
@jamestown8398
@jamestown8398 5 лет назад
Paulinus was the real hero of this story.
@hitrapperandartistdababy
@hitrapperandartistdababy 5 лет назад
Jamestown I totally agree. Ironically Boudicca might have been known as a liberating hero today if not because she was even worse than the Romans. In the end Paulinius was the noble one
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