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Boundaries, Burnout and the 'Goopification' of Self-Care 

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Love it or hate it, self-care has transformed from a radical feminist concept into a multibillion-dollar industry. But the wellness boom doesn’t seem to be making a dent in Americans’ stress levels. In 2021, 34 percent of women reported feeling burned out at work, along with 26 percent of men.
Dr. Pooja Lakshmin, a psychiatrist, has observed how wellness culture fails her patients, who she says are often burned out because of systemic failures, from the stresses that come with financial precariousness to the lack of paid family leave. In her book “Real Self-Care: A Transformative Program for Redefining Wellness (Crystals, Cleanses, and Bubble Baths Not Included) (www.poojalaksh...) ,” she encourages people to look beyond superficial fixes - the latest juice cleanses, yoga workshops, luxury bamboo sheets - to feel better. Instead, she argues that real self-care requires embracing internal work, which she outlines as four practices: setting boundaries, practicing self-compassion, aligning your values and exercising power. Lakshmin argues that when you practice real self-care, you not only take care of yourself, but you can also plant the seeds for change in your community.
In this conversation, the guest host, Tressie McMillan Cottom, and Lakshmin discuss how the pandemic opened up a larger conversation about parental burnout; how countries with more robust social safety nets frame care as a right, not a benefit; why it’s fair to understand burnout as a type of societal “betrayal”; how to practice boundary-setting and why it can feel uncomfortable to do so; the convenient allure of “faux self-care”; and more.
This episode was hosted by Tressie McMillan Cottom, a columnist for Times Opinion, a professor at the University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and the author of “Thick: And Other Essays.” Cottom also writes a newsletter (www.nytimes.co...) for Times Opinion that offers a sociologist’s perspective on culture, politics and the economics of our everyday lives.
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More information about Ezra’s Jefferson Memorial Lecture (calperformance...)
“We Don’t Need Self-Care; We Need Boundaries (opmed.doximity...) ” by Pooja Lakshmin
“How Society Has Turned Its Back on Mothers (www.nytimes.co...) ” by Pooja Lakshmin
“Our Obsession With Wellness Is Hurting Teens - and Adults (www.nytimes.co...) ” by The Ezra Klein Show with Lisa Damour
“A Legendary World Builder on Multiverses, Revolution and the ‘Souls’ of Cities (www.nytimes.co...) ” by The Ezra Klein Show with N.K. Jemisin
Book Recommendations:
Living Resistance (bakerbookhouse...) by Kaitlin B. Curtice
The Emotional Lives of Teenagers (drlisadamour.c...) by Lisa Damour
The Fifth Season (nkjemisin.com/...) by N.K. Jemisin
Thoughts? Guest suggestions? Email us at ezrakleinshow@nytimes.com.
You can find transcripts (posted midday) and more episodes of “The Ezra Klein Show” at nytimes.com/ezra-klein-podcast (www.nytimes.co...) , and you can find Ezra on Twitter @ezraklein. Book recommendations from all our guests are listed at www.nytimes.co... (www.nytimes.co...) .
This episode of “The Ezra Klein Show” was produced by Kristin Lin. Fact-checking by Michelle Harris. The senior engineer is Jeff Geld. The senior editor is Annie-Rose Strasser. The show’s production team includes Emefa Agawu and Rollin Hu. Original music by Isaac Jones. Audience strategy by Kristina Samulewski and Shannon Busta. The executive producer of New York Times Opinion Audio is Annie-Rose Strasser. Special thanks to Sonia Herrero.

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@clairejeannette8454
@clairejeannette8454 11 месяцев назад
I say, “learning to get comfortable with being uncomfortable” is one of the key tenet stuff of change.
@nancihogan6618
@nancihogan6618 10 месяцев назад
I loved this podcast! It validates all the concerns that were niggling at me about the self-care industry. Thank you!
@chazmena
@chazmena 9 месяцев назад
I am so grateful for Ezra Klein's Show. Thank you.
@ZinSchartz-tl9kd
@ZinSchartz-tl9kd 11 месяцев назад
Thank you 💕 really good for Rem.
@donnaclement3228
@donnaclement3228 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for this interview.
@majidah369
@majidah369 10 месяцев назад
Amazing
@Frdyan
@Frdyan 11 месяцев назад
"Wealthy, white and genetically gifted in a million ways..." Ja mein obergruppenfurher! Sehr gebates!
@Edo9River
@Edo9River 11 месяцев назад
Blaming the suffering as a failure of self care. Yes, Yes, Yes. You are helping me articulate what and why I have stepped on shards and cut the bottom of my feet, on. No choice to stop...Yeah I hear that onc can get a doctors permission. , No choice but to keep going, dammit. I want to give, but that is often theoretical,,,usually.
@twhite8308
@twhite8308 11 месяцев назад
Talk about self neglect next .
@user-xr4cj7wz5s
@user-xr4cj7wz5s 10 месяцев назад
I did not see where anything said by Dr. Pooja Lakshmin or Tressie McMillan Cottom refuted anything Audre Lorde has written about self-care (as the online version linked to an article about Lorde and self-care). If anything - they seemed to amplify the whole self-care concept by adding a frame with 'values, boundaries, compassion & power.' Some of the same things Audre Lorde brought up - such as being able to say 'no' - were discussed by Laksmin and Cottom as if they were saying something new and different, and they were not. I do not associate the concept of self-care with radical feminism. And I wondered why the show was setting itself as being at odds with it. It sounded to me like two women making stuff up and attributing things to radical feminists that did not apply - and then pretending that the Queer theorists knew all about it. I think the fact checker and the audience strategist could both do better. In my opinion - they must have all been out to lunch - and not doing their job.
@martydowns6310
@martydowns6310 10 месяцев назад
Totally agree and will add that I found it quit odd that the two felt that suffering is not part of the human condition regardless of the percent of melanin in one’s skin or genitalia between one’s legs. Suffering is the key to finding meaning regardless of heritable traits.
@mchang49
@mchang49 8 месяцев назад
I’ve finished listening the episode after reading your comment. I have to say that I don’t think the two speakers, particularly the guest, have anything against Audre Lorde or radical feminism. On the contrary, I think what they’re talking about is precisely how we can build upon what these thinkers have proposed and reclaim self-care from the capitalist commercial system today.
@ZinSchartz-tl9kd
@ZinSchartz-tl9kd 11 месяцев назад
Thank you, Florida Governor same last name Z.Rem.
@ZinSchartz-tl9kd
@ZinSchartz-tl9kd 11 месяцев назад
Thank you,World President Joe Bide,United State Of America 44President,45President&President Joe Biden.
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