Bowed basement walls, I beam install

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In this video I go through the steps of installing beams on a bowed block basement wall. First, I found the location that the beams needed to be installed. Next, I removed the cement at the new beam location and install blocking support to the existing floor joist. Last, I install the new I beam then use a screw jack to apply tension to the beam to help support the basement wall. Future videos will show how I dig up the dirt next to the foundation, push the wall back into place and seal the wall from the outside to prevent water penetration.
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@antons.5556 3 года назад

Wow, just a year ago I couldn't find much videos about bowing walls supporting. Only ads without any useful information. Thank you for sharing this video, I learned a lot and I think I'm ready to fix my really bad basement 😅

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Tosik Dwane I had the same issues 5 years ago when I did my first basement. Every time I did research I felt more confused. Happy this helped. Good luck on your project.

@antons.5556 3 года назад

@@handylandlord thank you!

@binks166 10 месяцев назад

I like it, straight forward no bull shit approach. I am going to try it on my bowed basement wall. Thanks

@Designspreadsheet 2 года назад

Great video, most people just put bolts in the floor to hold the base but you cut the concrete. I like think putting the base into concrete is the best solution.

@Badweather12 4 года назад

Noticed it's a new channel. Good content keep it coming.

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Stormy Winters Thanks!!! Trying my best. Appreciate the encouragement!

@870Slager 4 года назад

Thanks for the video man. I've got a client who received an astronomical bid for carbon fiber straps. thanks to your video, I can get it done for half the price and with actual steel instead of a stupid band-aid lol

@handylandlord 4 года назад

EthanAllen1775 No problem. I’ve seen a few places with carbon fiber straps not sure I really believe in them. Haha. Definitely think steel I beams are better. If you buy the beams I’d be interested to know your price per beam. Good luck on your project.

@870Slager 3 года назад

@@handylandlord I bought 4inch I beams like the one's you're using. I ordered them with a gray primer coating and I think they were around $118 a piece. I live near Chicago, so everything around here is a bit pricey. What do you normally pay?

@handylandlord 3 года назад

EthanAllen1775 EthanAllen1775 I normally pay around $75 not painted. $118 doesn’t sound bad at all especially if they are primed. Thanks for the info. Good luck.

@870Slager 3 года назад

Also, do you fill behind the beam with mortar/cement if there's still a gap after jacking?

@handylandlord 3 года назад

EthanAllen1775 Yes I do. I like to apply pressure with the screw jack. Once I feel all movement is done. I install a piece of metal between the concrete slab and the beam. Cement in the bottom of the beam. Then I fill the gap behind the beam with mortar mix to prevent future movement of the blocks not touching the beam.

@GenZInvestor 4 года назад

Looks great man! I appreciate the tutorial!

@hansvonschlader8227 3 года назад

Thanks man, your video was awesome. Very clear explanation and useful content I think you saved me about $10k

@handylandlord 3 года назад

That's awesome. It is definitely a lot of work, but worth it. The best results I've gotten is from excavating and sealing from the outside. Thanks for watching.

@adamthomas9279 4 месяца назад

@@handylandlordhey sir. When you are ready to lock that beam into place is it as simple as pouring concrete around it and waiting for it to dry?

@brentyancich Год назад

Very helpful thanks for making it

@americanfreedom6417 3 года назад

Excellent video.

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Thanks

@billsmith1962 2 года назад

Box system in junk they should have took out the old drain tile and installed ADS pipe...I see why you are still having issues with the wall coming in.....You did a great job on beams...

@r5yamaha 2 года назад

Was there a follow up? Would like to know how it works.

@faisalsayeed3883 4 года назад

Great video....what kind of jack are you using? are these available at auto parts stores? Keep up the good work.

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Thanks. The jacks are called screw jacks 15 ton made by jet. I’ve had them a long time but I believe I ordered them from northern tool. I added a link to the jacks in the description.

@jacobhuey4064 3 года назад

I have a drain system installed around the perimeter of my basement that leads to a sump, when installing the I beams could I just leave the drain pipe in place and just work around it? I saw that you cut a type of tile system in this video but I was wondering what you did after that!

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Jacob Huey yes you should be able to work around the system you have in place as long as there is enough room between the wall and pipe for your beam. Normally, the top of the drain pipe Is flush with the top of the footer. In that case your beam install would be easy. The drain pipe would not get in the way. My situation is a little different the system you saw me cut out was on top of the old clay tile system. I’m planning to install new drain pipe over to the sump pump. I was mostly worried about getting the wall supported before if got any worse. Thanks for watching. I will post more about this basement in the future.

@zacharygoddard5703 3 года назад

Great video! Just put beams up on one wall in my basement. How did your city handle the inspections? Thanks

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Zachary Goddard Thanks! This is my personal home. Still need to add beams to a few more walls. Unfortunately, I’ve been distracted with trying to get rental properties done and rented. Planning to finish the job this winter. Will update in future videos.

@rkblain 4 года назад

My cinder blick wall is pushed in by 4 inches at the bottom. The bottom course is still in it’s place as it’s up against the cement floor. Do you think we can use this system to push the wall back that far? Soil will be dug out and we’ll place temporary supports to raise joints by a 1/4 inch over head.

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Definitely you can use this method to push the wall back into place. You may have to push the wall back then reposition the beam and or the jack. I would make sure to support the cinder block wall before digging outside. These screw jacks are the best method I have found to put tension on the beam to push the wall back into place. Just go slow and try to push the wall evenly. Good luck on your project. Keep us updated on how it goes. amzn.to/305NbKU

@modernimprovements1955 2 года назад

Hello I have 4 kids and a new born baby we have bought are first house but it has two bowing walls. Can you please tell me step by step what todo. First would be remove the dirt from around the outside? I have roughly a crack in the middle all the way across but no cracks in a stair motion

@hedasamimi5803 8 месяцев назад

Excellent job!!! What size of I beam did you use? Please provide some details on the I beam if you could. Much thanks!

@handylandlord 7 месяцев назад

Im not a steel expert( 4inch I beam wide flange 13lbs per foot). I use a company called Alro steel

@justinherman9443 4 года назад

Did you feel you had to excavate? I was looking to do a similar thing on my house in peninsula but with the intent to get the beams to move the wall then go back and reinforce the wall with #4 rebar and mortar from the top of the wall filling the cavity. Once complete and cured remove the beam.

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Justin Herman I excavated because the wall was so badly bowed that I wanted instant results. Also, to seal the wall from the outside and add gravel. In the past, I have installed beams, applied pressure, corrected grade away from the house and seen results typically within a year.

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Justin Herman ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AiKdv2CGZzg.html

@lisasolis7399 Год назад

Will it still breakthe joyces if the outside wall has the dirt moved away from it first? My mother's house desperately need fixed this summer, and we will be doing it by ourselves. Do you have any other tips to help?

@AnnoDominiMCMXCV 3 года назад

How would you install the top support for beams on a wall like the one behind you at 9:00 with the window, The boards running horizontal not vertical to you overhead?

@handylandlord 3 года назад

First thing is to check to make sure your beam will fit in between the floor joist and the block wall. I cut blocking to go in between the floor joist at least 3 joist spaces back. Also I add a block between the first floor joist and the beam. Then, I glue and lag bold a 2x8 to the bottom of the floor joist screwing into the joist and the blocking that was just added. Install the screw jack and apply pressure like in the video. Hope this helps.

@adamthomas9279 4 месяца назад

So once the jack is pressing the beam against the wall do you pour the concrete and wait for it to dry then remove the jack? So if you wanted to bust out an entire wall in a day you would prolly need a few of those jacks.

@seviusbenz2016 3 года назад

I’ve been looking at videos on how to brace my wall and I’ve come across what’s called a power brace system. They put the beam flush to the wall at the bottom and just use angle iron bolted to the floor to stop the beam from moving back and at the top have a 1 inch thick bolt pushing into the beam going through angle iron fastened into the ceiling truss and slowly tightening over time. Do you think this is also a suitable method or am I better off to push at the bottom and set the beams in concrete ? If you google image search wall power brace you can see what I’m talking about

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Let me look into it. Sorry for the delay I’ve been working around the clock.

@caseyrohde3301 3 года назад

Instead of tearing up your concrete. Why not weld an end plate to the beam with holes in it for anchor bolts and match drill once the beam is under load from the jack? Are you worried the slab would not be thick enough, or the bolts not strong enough?

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Casey Rohde the concrete along the edge was thin because of a previous sump install that was done, so in my case it wouldn’t have worked. I have seen this type of install before, but have never used it.

@jasvan4359 2 года назад

Where can someone buy those I beams

@stripecatflippangitnamecha8721 3 года назад

Is it ok to install Beam even the basement have no problem? I mean for prevention.

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Yes you could install beams. It’s a lot of work to prevent. If it was me I would make sure you are getting the rain water and gutter water away from the foundation. Keep the gutters clean and flowing. Make sure the dirt is sloping away from the house / foundation.

@paulcordova4687 2 года назад

what size of rod do you use to push the hydralic jack against?

@andrewrossnagel9433 Год назад

Probably somewhere between #5 and #7

@RickDean 4 года назад

I was quoted 23k for my 63' poured basement wall excavation and push, 13 braces and 2 earth anchors, seal wall, drain tile with 80% gravel backfill. East central Kansas where our soil is sticky clay. Wall is leaning in 3-4". I'm thinking of renting equipment and doing it myself. Comments appreciated.

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Rick Dean Actually doesn’t sound like a bad price. Having beams installed in Ohio normally cost around $300 to $500 per beam installed. Most of the basements in my area are block walls. I only own one property with poured walls. Equipment or not it’s a lot of manual labor. Would not recommend hand digging haha. Do u know if the wall is leaning in at the top or does it have cracks and bowing?

@handylandlord 4 года назад

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@RickDean 4 года назад

@@handylandlord Poured wall is Leaning inward 3-4". Stairwell has a 1/2 height poured wall so that would need 2 earth anchors instead. That's what my quote said. Cracks everywhere.

@handylandlord 4 года назад

I am not by anyway trying to offend you, instead give you my honest opinion based on the info you gave me. The amount, 63' has me concerned that's a ton of digging, along with cracks everywhere. I would support the wall before digging with any machinery. I'm not sure I would take on this project alone if you decide to give it a go. I do feel you are on the right path with excavating the exterior and sealing the wall. Some companies will claim to be able to fix the problem from the inside and I feel that is false with poor results from my past experiences. Good luck on your decision and I hope this helps.

@Mrdealornodeal618 Год назад

Where do you get these I beams? I can't find them at my local home material stores.

@handylandlord Год назад

Alro steel for me. I would search steel or metal beams on google maps.

@dustinlamb7941 3 года назад

How much would you charge to do a similar job?

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Dustin Lamb contractors in my area normally charge around $385 per beam installed. I would be willing to install for around $200 to $250 per beam installed. But not sure of the price of beams since COVID.

@rodneyparkssr.5483 2 года назад

How much do you charge for this work

@antons.5556 3 года назад

I'm started to fix my bowing wall but still no confidence. There is water meter on that wall... the wall is so bad and looks like its gonna fall right now (already a year its scares me lol). Is anybody knows if I need building permit for that?

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Tosik Dwane Permits depend on where you live. But more than likely yes. For the water meter. I normally open the hole around the pipe coming through the block on both sides to give the wall room to move around the pipe without messing up the pipe coming through the block. Just a heads up depending on how bad the wall is you may have to replace it.

@antons.5556 3 года назад

Handy Landlord: Thanks you very much. I'll try to push it back before replacing. Looks like it will work. At least blocks are in a good condition, just the wall bowed more than in your video

@natouvilla 4 года назад

Great work and thank for the show and tell. Where did you buy the I beam and how much did you pay for them? Thanks

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Thanks. More videos to come soon on this basement. I buy them from a place called Alro they only carry steel products. The beams are 4 inch 13lbs a square inch. Cost was $81 dollars each.

@TylerLied 3 года назад

What is the cost for something like this to be complete?

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Tyler Lied about $90 to $120 per I beam with all the other required materials. Not including labor.

@handylandlord 3 года назад

Tyler Lied $385 per beam installed is the going rate in Ohio. Hope this helps.

@Vegan4Everything 2 года назад

I'm trying to order I-Beams at metalsdepot, but I have no idea what to choose for: Web, Flange Width, lbs/foot. I know it varies, but generally speaking, for a basement with a mild bow, what kind of I-Beam do you use?

@handylandlord 2 года назад

Just ordered 22 Ibeams at 94.5" long from Alro steel cost me $160 a beam. I use 4 inch #13lb 4.160 X 4.060 .280. Hope this helps. Working on a basement now. Probably the worst wall I have seen in some time. Thanks for watching. More basement videos coming in a few months.

@Vegan4Everything 2 года назад

@@handylandlord Thank you so much for the fast and detailed reply! Best of luck with the basement you're doing now!

@Vegan4Everything 2 года назад

@@handylandlord I went to order those beams, but my total came out way higher, even when bulk buying 22 beams, it came out to $237.51/each... 4" 13# A992/A57250 WF BEAM,4.160 X 4.060 .280 WEB @ 94.5" Where'd I go wrong?!

@handylandlord 2 года назад

I would look for a local steel yard in your area. The company I use will not deliver to residential address. For me I just have to pick them up but they load them in my van with a crane. Keep in mind they are heavy.

@Vegan4Everything 2 года назад

@@handylandlord Makes sense. Ok, thanks, man! Yeah, they look heavy!

@BR-gl9ci Год назад

You are very young and inexperienced and it shows!

@gar783 3 года назад

What size I beam are you using thank you very much I appreciate your feedback

@handylandlord 3 года назад

gar I use 4 inch I beams. #13. This is what the steel place recommend for basements in my area. Thanks for watching.

@gar783 3 года назад

@@handylandlord thank you so much I truly appreciate it I just had mine delivered and I'm going to start the process tomorrow also what size rebar do you use thank you for your expertise

@handylandlord 3 года назад

gar Great!!! The steel I am using is 1/2 solid. You could also use concrete stakes or 3/4 gas line pipe found at Homedepot. I’ve used them all in the past. Good luck on your project.

@gar783 3 года назад

@@handylandlord totally appreciate you getting back in touch with me as soon as you did just goes to show the kind of character you are totally appreciate it

@gar783 3 года назад

Also just want to let you know I started it today I did exactly how you did it and at the bottom of each one of my I beams there's a 8 inch difference on the bottom do you have any suggestions

@fkya206 2 года назад

You shouldve excavated the dirt to push back properly.

@handylandlord 2 года назад

I did. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AiKdv2CGZzg.html Some parts could not be excavated due to obstructions.

@randysinkovic4788 Год назад

Where u located ?

@linuxryodan 3 года назад

What size H beam is best to use?

@handylandlord 3 года назад

4 inch beams. Tell the place you order the beams from what you are using them for. They normally know what you need. I think they are #13. Good luck on your project.

@linuxryodan 3 года назад

@@handylandlord Thanks !

@adam55627 4 года назад

Gotta redo the drain tile

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Planning to replace the interior drain tile. Unfortunately haven't had the motivation to bust up more concrete and dig. Haha

@adam55627 4 года назад

I hear ya I did mine 4 guys it is a big project

@adam55627 4 года назад

When you put the steel beams in did you water proof them so they dont rust

@handylandlord 4 года назад

adam erler they were painted with direct to metal paint prior to install, that’s all I did. Do u have a recommendation so they don’t rust?

@adam55627 4 года назад

@@handylandlord epoxy anything that you keep the barrier between the steel and water

@justinherman9443 4 года назад

Are you out of NE Ohio?

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Justin Herman I’m close to that area.

@justinherman9443 4 года назад

@@handylandlord Very cool. I've subscribed.

@jeffreyrichardson 3 года назад

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@SavageTos 4 года назад

Hey whats up man, I'm a landlord who has this problem and I'm trying to get an idea as to how much this will cost me.. Are you free to take a quick phone call? I can send you my email address

@handylandlord 4 года назад

Sorry for the delay I didn't get notified that you commented. I recently had 17 beams installed in one of my properties due to it had bowing walls. The cost for materials plus installation was $385 per beam. This also included sealing the basement walls on the interior. I also had drains installed for the gutter downspouts to route the water away from the foundation. Cost for the drain re-route was $1242. Total cost for the job was $8235. Hope this helps. Good luck.

@weldyhassen2762 3 месяца назад

What’s your contact’?

@DaniilStanisevschi Год назад

What size rebar are you using and what size holes do you drill in the floor to brace the 2x4 for the jack to sit against?

@handylandlord Год назад

I use 24 inch concrete stakes 3/4 diameter with a 2x8 against then the screw jack against the 2x8. The bit is so old I believe it’s one inch or 1 1/4.