Boy in a Box Trial | Psychological Analysis of the Box 

It's not the minor's fault that he has mental illness (es.) These people are angry they don't have a "normal" kid so they are totally being abusive!! This can only make the boy WORSE! All they should have done was seek GOOD mental health care and take direction from professionals. They are HORRIBLE parents. I've never heard of such a thing what they did!!!! They built him a prison cell. If he was actually a serious danger to the family the parents should have placed in in a safe place where he could receive proper healthcare.

I, too, had trouble with my then teenage son, and sometimes despaired being caught in a quagmire. We did get him to see a psychologist but I wanted to get another doctor as I didn't really feel confident in her. Another Dr. didn't materialize. Aside from the psychological problems, at the deeper root was a very serious illness of diabetes 1, affecting health and mental acuity. He began smoking marijuana at age 13 with his friends. Everything spiralled out of control when he was 17 and after loud words, in out-of-control anger, he broke my husband's wrist ( who had always treated him well) accidentally and broke my nose. We told him he couldn't stay with us anymore and wd hv to find his own way. He went to a girlfriend 's to spend the night and the next day, after coming home to pack, left on a bus for his grandparents ' home, a long ways away. His grandfather was very strict, said "no dope or you're gone", and that was adhered to. There, he graduated from HS with honors,as well as community college. He worked on a fishing boat alone, until he was brought down by diabetic comas, and saved by the Coast Guard. He was an athlete but succumbed to his disease at age 40. When he was with us, he had love and support, good meals made by my husband while I was away at work, an art and book-filled comfortable apartment in which to live in a nice area. He left his house to us in his will ( and had legally already changed his name to my husband's shortly after arriving at his grandparents ' ). Every situation is different. But putting a young man in a box in garage with a bucket is no solution. To be raised without love or familial privileges is cruelty beyond description. The parents should have gotten therapy for their adopted son, as well as for themselves. I look at them & find it hard to believe that these young & attractive people cd hv done this but then again, we are living in a time when there are ever more of not-to-be explained familial murders and heinous acts of violence perpetrated.

But for TF this would be an embarrassment and cast shame on his delusional parenting. He is a sadistic Narcissist who felt power in shaming and controlling every aspect of his adopted son’s miserable life. Let’s see how the “Tough Guy” handles being a child abuser in Prison.

And they offered him a 2 yr. deal!!!! So, yes...narcissist!!!@@dianealarcon8304

Good man so your dad!

I guess you're right, it must sound like a Celine Dion song because it made me cry. How sweet of you to do that for your dad. You also made me laugh with the Celine comment. I'm a mess. Lol

Most of us raised by military parents are high functioning adults that have our sh*t together! We weren't allowed to be bad lol

He had a heart, you were all so very lucky to have a good loving father!! I bet you made his day by texting him and letting him know he is appreciated!❤

You’re dad is a rock star and so are you

Good point!

he was being kept worse than a prisoner because at least prisoners get regular meals and let out of their cells on time and the lights come on/off at the same times

In summer, a S. FL Garage is 102° easy. And the heat is trapped, really only cools down around 11pm. Did the bucket even have a lid for all the peanut butter they fed that kid? Astounding. Do the prisons get Court TV as an option? Anybody?

Spidey senses were on point.

If I were the contractor, not only would I report it, but I would refuse to do the work, and I would inform other contractors in the area that someone is looking to have that work done so that they will think twice also.

is that how they found out?

@@sarahcordova9776 they found out when the victim ran away from home, and, once he was taken to the police station, he talked about what he was subject to.

@@MTLTV-eu4nvThat’s what I was wondering 💭…….did they (the contractors) ever think it was strange that this family was asking them to build a room/box in the garage?! 🤔 I’m just saying. That’s not something U see people build inside their garage.

oh i'm sure it started at 17 months when they adopted him

And they still think the child is to blame? They made him like this. The kids behavioural issues are caused by his parents!

I remember him in my kids martial arts class....happy, energetic, listened to the instructions....this was before or around 8...before they moved to AZ and back to FL.

@@vegandolls I bet you’re right. They went to Vietnam and adopted this child so they had a savior complex. It appears that their expectations were that he would be thankful. What they forget or didn’t care to understand was that children have a very deep, primal, and biological connection to their birth parents. They severed those Ty ‘s taking him from his home country with people he identified with.

I heard they’re only allowed to talk about it from that age. It’s not that it started at that age.

Agreed.

They are going to loves prison.

I’d be GLAD to help! Let’s go!

bucket for toilet...and no running water!

Prison would be what they deserve. Lock them up in a cell!!!😢

They denied 2 years of him in juvenile detention too. It would have been better.

Theres an amazing boarding school in that area Military style, teaches flying, golf, surf, but strict: they posted everything grade wise. Would have been a good fit for RF

@@lovepet4565 Guess they think they know better! 😮

It literally makes me want to vomit just watching this! Who does these horrible things to a young boy?? The stepdad needs to go straight to prison!!!

Very well said. I share same perspective.

It's not stealing! It's in your home !

It's not stealing, it's 'hoarding'. Stealing implies malicious intent. Hoarding is really common in traumatised children because of feeling insecure. And this poor boy was 'stealing' because he was being starved.

I am glad your comment ended with"once we trusted our parents" Reads like they were fit to adopt and to give the love every child deserves

I’m so sorry you went though a very hard time. . Sending you hugs.

And we are talking about a few pieces of chocolate here. These parents are just despicable. So sad. Glad you and your siblings learned to trust and everyone is ok. ❤❤

Amen! ❤

Exactly and in 1 of the vids you can hear the dad talk about the smell

I live a mile or so away. I was horrified! They definitely have money and treat this kid like a prisoner! I don't understand evil people. And they're free and enjoying life while on trial! It broke my heart to hear the tapes. I had to stop. They are aholes! The worst kind, void of love and compassion.

Not only that but what if the air conditioning malfunctioned? In a hot box in the garage in South Florida? They are lucky they are not on trial for murder.

No water or juice to drink all night ? No ac control Nothing to do No privacy

​@@5GreenAcreshe was not even allowed to use the air conditiiner😢

Absolutely

That’s such a fantastic point!

Do you think Tim abused his wife?

Correct!! It doesn't matter good kid, bad kid. You DON'T not feed the child just because he's out of control. Smh

@@ChasingRainbows67 they won't even let him sit at the family dinner table!

@@cheriamour2429 Awful people!😢

They get busy and forget about the prisoner in the garage

Are they part of Connexions? They created a monster in training.

It really is. Terrorists in U.S. custody get more humane treatment than this poor boy.

Exactly.

Your people....

Brad Pitt wife help him.♡

​@@forest1butterflyyou run along & find a book to read...ignoramus! Stop using the abuse of a child to get your creepy kicks. Shameless

I'll bet they went to church every sunday.

The Defenses only tool is blaming the child.

at least during his testimony I didn't hear him lose his cool or meltdown or have any of the behavior issues they claim he has he just seems normal and he would probably do well if given the right environment

I agree

Withholding food is child abuse! I have no idea why we as society ever condoned it. The Ole "You are going to bed without dinner!" Has been a total norm forever. I have been parenting daily for 26+ years, My children have never been denied food or forced to eat something they didn't want. A grandparent once suggested sending one child from the table hungry during the meal for behavior. I said very firmly that we don't isolate or withhold food as punishment ever. If our phones can listen and target ads so well, there should be some way to catch this stuff going on and put an end to the abuse of children. The late great Whitney 🌹RIP🌹 said it best in "greatest love of all" to fill these children with pride and self-assurance to enjoy their innocence and love them in and through every success and failure because they are the future! Also, because they are humans! They are not here to make us proud, give us something to brag about/show off, and meet any created expectations. The Joy comes from watching them become the humans they are meant to be by keeping them safe from adults, gently guiding, encouraging, and loving. ❤

What did he say about overhearing his parents discuss building the box? I missed that

I actually heard this part as well. I did not make much of it as he said it fast in passing, but now that you have mentioned it, it is an important point.

I heard him say that he overheard his dad talking to the construction worker while he was locked in the closet.

@@Star-hk6gc yes, me too.

Their other children were allowed to get a cookie or snack from the kitchen, but if he did it he was accused of “stealing”. This started when he was eight. The parents said he wasn’t allowed sugar. A loving parent would have baked or purchased sugar-free cookies or candy for that child, not let other kids eat snacks in front of him. This child was probably mistreated from the time they first adopted him. I am so sorry for him and how he has been treated.

Didn't they already have a room with a bathroom in that big house? Why even build the box? It makes no sense.

@@Preservestlandry literally! Like it really seems like cruelty was the point.

Hope the jury thinks about this.

I think they may be afraid of him harming himself?? So they subconsciously know locking him in this box is profoundly wrong? I don't know..its odd. I ask myself this too. And the other question I have is: what the mom is crying about in the gallery as she watches. 🤷‍♀️

Another of Tims brilliant ideas, like the bucket was.

He didn't even have any bathroom duties privacy or no way to wash his hands afterwards.

They're sadist that enjoy watching him anguish smh

The kids mum is up for the same charge. She is in the court with him. He was adopted from Vietnam when he was a baby.

He can sit like that because he believes he did the right thing. I'm suspecting that they, Lori Vallow and Jodi Hildebrandt may have something similar in common: a belief that sparing the rod spoils the child, that Sin is contagious, that demons exist, and 'evil must be cast out'. Those kind of ideas go a long way towards explaining how parents could be so cruel. They didn't just get the idea of this room from thin air. *Who (in Arizona) suggested it to them?*

Is it just me or do they seem very carefree and happy that's its just the two of them?

She was the only sensible guest on for this!

I haven’t heard how he behaves at school.

Right...Heck wasn't she a stay at home Mom. SMH

​@@dudzinski324but I think he was taking knives and box cutters to school. I was hoping to see some teachers testify, on either side*please see my replies below.. I wasn't so sure he actually was doing that or not but I thought there may have been some substance to what they were saying. That is until I finished watching. I'm surprised he didn't do more these people are monsters. Worst still they were the only people he had. Of course never never never a reason to lock a kid up anywhere!

But if his care is being given by others then the parents can’t directly receive the glory when the boy succeeds. It’s all about control.

@@CC12398 Defense claims it was a box cutter, the child said it was not and that it was like a spackle. I don’t remember exactly what it’s called. He said it was not sharp.

i believe any 'disorder' that he has was caused by the parents. i think the odd 'diagnosis' is bs. a social worker suggested that's what he had. That is not a diagnosis. This case makes me sick

They mentioned a few days ago that he’s in a loving, caring foster home. One of the Court TV hosts (I can’t recall right off who it was) said that the dad (where he’s living) has been at the court watching the trial every single day, but that at one point when they were talking about some of the more brutal things he went through, he left the room looking devastated. I have a feeling he’s getting all the love and care he desperately deserves…. 🤗💕 xoxo

@@bearpawz_ thanks for that update 🙂

Children are mu#&ering their parents for way less than this.This boy is remarkable for handling this the way he did.He can do a lot of good in the world helping other children who go through trauma.

One of the things Defense brought up that he did was to push another kid up against a wall and put his hand on his neck...which is exactly what the father did to him! I know they're trying to paint the child as a dangerous devil child, but I would not have brought that one up if I had been on the Defense team. That only makes people realize that the abuse started long before the box was added into the mix. Not that I had any doubts. This kind of abuse doesn't start out of the blue.

​@@JWildberryYES. how is he supposed to know its wrong? This is how dad feels strong so this is how I feel strong. I'm so glad he's out, and so perceptive about his experience.

And basically treating him like a slave!! Making him do yard work with no water, no rest...

​@@JWildberryexactly!! Children emulate their parents behavior!!

Their lack of love, concern, and, of nurturing, is an absolute sickening witnessing, of their care. Their lack of morals, thoughtfulness, is sick.

I was adopted when I was 3 years old & stole food for almost 2 years. My parents never even thought about locking me in a box to keep me from stealing food; but, thankfully they taught me through love, that I wasn't going to have to be afraid of going hungry again and yes, they may be my adopted parents but they are my "REAL" parents. and have been since 1964.

They would have ended up murdering him 😢

Until he snapped and killed someone or died from malnutrition and depression. They have already started to deprive him from vital things as good food, fresh air, sport or any other healthy activities

By the way the father was threatening him, like if he acted out in school or stole food from his house again, I feel like the next step was going to be starvation & that poor kid would've died. No one would've known. They would've claimed to have switched the boy to homeschooling, then claimed he ran away & no one it seems would have missed him enough to question it or bother finding him.

That boy wouldnt get out of that situation alive. This is what some ppl are capable of, and sadly enough these are often the kind of ppl who wants to adopt internationally.

This was his whole life, even when he was younger, he would be locked in a closet.

@@angelikabehrend417 I think many people missed that comment from the child about the closet. 😢

@@angelikabehrend417 i totally missed that

I'd be yelling and screaming too if I were subjected to that.... I actually would have punched holes in the sheetrock and escaped .... when he first ran away and was located by LE, he begged them to arrest him so he wouldn't have to go back there..... he "knew" he didn't belong there, wasn't accepted there, and wasn't wanted there. He said he would rather die than go back.

Also he cdnt communicate with them while in the garage. They cd talk to him via intercom but if he needed food water the AC he cdnt request anything. That’s not parenting that’s not care that’s not safe

You are absolutely right!

Right even garages have windows

Not to mention locked from the outside and inescapeable...

Agree… everyone know that. Hope the jury gets it right

What if a fire occurred? He would not be able to get out.

so I'm taking a poo 💩 in a bath box. Okay 👍🏼 got ya

the wife that looks just like her husband perhaps her brother...need to be put in prison

My prayers are w/ you and your family! the stress I& emotions very overwhelming. I have been dealing w/ one of my kid’s behavior issues, and therapist was my 1st go too! That does not always work, only if my kid willing to work w/ the process. As a parent w/ other kids, & had to work part time, so I can be home & work w/ my kid & appointments more. There have been Many days I was so overwhelmed & stressed, I had to take a walk . It is Very hard some days, harder than others, but taking walks became my new therapeutic routine, I would have to take a walk , collect my thoughts properly. One thing I would NEVER do- is treat one child differ from all other, most importantly give & show love. They are kids , and this boy was treated horribly. The behavior was NOT going to get better, this box of a room, is one of the cruelest & easy way to make the boy feel all the emotions. I hope things can get better, it’s not easy, but I truly hold on to hope it is going to get better, brighter days.

My friends child has Oppositional Disorder. Her children's pediatrician was very helpful with letting her know her options and what the school was responsible for doing to help her child succeed. If your pediatrician isn't helping like this, consider finding a better one if you are able. Best of luck to you and yours.

I have similar experiences with my 7yo.

Praying for each of you moms / dads. My oldest son had ODD and grew up to be a loving & caring husband and dad. And, an ER trauma surgeon. His pediatrician told me to think of it as a disease. Once he was diagnosed, we could get the help we all needed: medication, individual therapy, family therapy, and partnering with his teacher… Hang in there & take care of yourself too (exercise, eat & sleep well). 🙏🏽

especially when your house costs a million bucks

If you need to lock your child in any room they need to be assessed as to why their bad behaviour. You do not lock children away anywhere do you not understand?

@@Gina19876I agree, thats why we should abolish Psych wards.

When they bought the house in FL, the youngest was either an infant or Mom was pregnant. So, they were fully aware they needed an additional bedroom. No excuse for building a torture cell, in the garage, out of sight. They chose to dehumanize this boy by taking his will and spirit away.

And what if that child busts the windows out of their rooms or destroys the home they live in how would you control that???

It wouldn't be the first time siblings got married and had a family. Typing that made me throw up in my mouth a little.🤢

They look very alike

You are good parents!

Hey good on you for being such a good parent ❤ agree 100%

I completely agree with the parents!!!

That's because it's not parenting its abuse! Great job pivoting on a challenging situation. God bless!

My daughter has ODD, ADHD and Asperger's Syndrome. We went through many years of therapy sessions together. I did not once segregate her from the rest of the family. It was tough going, but that's what parenting is all about. In my opinion these parents weren't cut out for a challenged child. A sad situation.

I agree with you on the time! Wish he could be sent to Gitmo. As for the Monster Mom, we will have to wait for her trial.

Monster mom for real!

My son has schizophrenia. You are exactly right. It can bring you to your knees. But you keep looking for medications and answers to help them! You don't lock them in a box and torture them! That would make my son lose his mind forever. I can't even imagine it without crying. Horrible horrible psychopaths, both of them.

​@@SilentThundersnowI agree..My son has psychosis for the first time and it can be very stressful for me but I would never do this...I would get more help if it all got too much for me.

My son is 18 he finally got approved for assisted living. He's been diagnosed with Reactive attachment disorder since he was five and not once did I do what these people did.

Who cares, it won’t wash with the jury

Right 😢

@@personalcheeses8073 We should care, because it's a continuation of the abuse. A lot of it was done while cross-examining the boy, who has already been brainwashed into thinking it's his fault. It's also available for him to watch the trial afterwards. I suspect that is why the Prosecution offered such an excellent plea deal: to protect the kid from having to go through this.

That's a defense tactic blame everybody except the criminal.

I would say he said forgive because he knows he did some bad things!! I think he has massive psychological issues, already, but these measures the parents chose made it worse!! I feel for all evolved, these parents need help too!!😊

Agree ❤ and they knew better not to take him to a psychologist because they knew he was going to talk 😢

You are 💯 right. Sadistic parents. There is no one in Palm Beach County who believes in the innocence of these 2 monsters. And he went to TRIAL rather than accepting the 2 year plea deal. He's a psychopath.

What is so awful is that he got berated for stealing chocolate! My grandson's eat like horses all day long. This kid was probably hungry and sick of peanut butter sandwiches or meal deprivation. 30 years for these sadists

Here's the thing....even the guy they hired to "build" the room notified LE when he was done because he had a bad feel about it.... it was just weird....locks on the outside only, camera...... and if it were "truly" he needed to be separated at times, they had the means to convert the ENTIRE garage into a complete room, with windows, bathroom, etc.

Greedy people! 😮

They truly are the problem, exactly. He could have died. I wondered how old he was when he was adopted. I feel so sick to my stomach. It is horrific and devastating.

@@AlexaCBrown he was only 17 months old.

Me too, apparently he turned down 2 years, I think he'll get more.

Trish, I like how you talk.

That's sad and you never deserved that. I hope you are having a better life now.

I was wondering about that too.

😢

With that psychopath for a father, I'm sure the abuse started before the box was ever built. They messed him up. And he has risen above it and didn't mu*r",der them by some character he has inside him.

@@SilentThundersnowI have no disorder or psychological problems and if I was treated that way I think I may have unlive those parents. I just can’t imagine . I telework from home for a week and choose not to go out and by the end of the week I am irritable and trapped. And this was my decision. They threatened to home school him and I think that was his breaking point so he ran away. Thank God he did. This child may have behavior issues but his mind is strong because I’m sure mine would have been broken.

They said that was the punishment for the sisters...but not this child.

Any animal would be given food, water, daylight, and fresh air to breathe!

Probably only a few visits to make it look, on paper, like they tried. Then, they probably stopped taking him bc they were afraid the boy was going to tell on them.

what i really hated tht the defense on cross did to this dr.. when he started naming all the books he had written or was associated with were about serial k and child k and criminals.. Right there they were trying to say that this childs behavior was criminal or that this kid is going to grow up to be a criminal i just did not like what i was hearing from the defense. there whole case is this child is a danger to society, he needs to be in prison, and that he is a bad bad child and that he doesnt deserve love and affection... that is the whole defense stragedy.. i bet he will take the stand on Tuesday hes that arrogant if he turned down the plea you know he is going to want to explain his actions and to humiliate the child further by things he will say about his sons behavior and i dont want that child to be put in a bad light more then he already has been.. this case is so sad

The defense attorney esp man sucks

Why is the mother not be charged?

@@cindyliao2250 She's being put on trial separately, she most likely will be charged too

you were your childs advoate and this poor child did not have a great parent like you that fought to get their child the help he truly needed,,, i too had to be my childs advocate this son seems like NO ONE tried to help him they just wanted to punish not help.. Job well done. so glad your daughter is doing better.. i bet she knows how much you love her and helped her through her rough times.. We need more parents like you...

It was one of the hardest times in my life as I was a single mother of two children but we made it through❤ at the time we did not have Google I was going to the library several times a week looking for books trying to figure out what was wrong with my daughter,no psychiatrist, psychologist or doctor was able to figure out what was wrong with my daughter, I had to figure it out myself through books,I then presented what I learned to my daughters psychologist then we were able to get her diagnosed and get her help.

... Correction: Being anywhere else was better than that prison cell without lights, ventilation, a toilet, or a source of water! For years, that child suffered solitary confinement (for hours on end in the dark!), sense deprivation, extreme heat, and even a lack of air! This sort of treatment is dehumanizing and damaging for any adult. How is a child to deal with that?

@@angelikabehrend417 I hope that each one of these conditions he had to endure are repeated over and over to the jury in closing. Also, he had nothing to do while sitting there for 16 hours a day after day. The only break in the quiet and darkness was the father coming in to yell at him and tell him what a terrible kid he is. It is amazing that he didn’t have a complete breakdown. There are people on here siding with the “parents”. I pray there are no one on the jury that has that opinion.

i know the defense wants to pick their own clips to show the jury on Tuesday i am hoping that at least one show that these parents showed some kind of kindness to him but i bet they dont have any of those clips just the one showing the child acting out and yet agan to make the child the one in the wrong and not the ADULTs in this situation .i know its their job but i dont like it

apparently they had the box torn down. They knew it was wrong hiding it and telling everyone it was an office

​@@starcitizen6651The police found the box when the boy got away from them & it was reported.

God, I wish that they would recreate that room scenario - feces smell, complete darkness and all, for each juror to sit in & experience what that boy experienced. I guarantee you they'd come back with a guilty verdict real fast. He's going to be found guilty anyway. They both will. How much time they serve though, I highly doubt will be the justice they truly deserve.

@@avg5658 i want that same thing, however I have my doubts they do that, and especially because of the 'unsanitary' concerns. I cant yell victory yet, remember FL jurors are notorious letting bad ppl walk, remember Casey Anthony's case, the Nikolas Cruz they gave him life after taking 17 down, so FL I'm just praying hard they can see through his light color skin and neat ironed clothes

even adults would start acting out if they were treated like ths poor child. and they wonder why theire child was getting worse and not better.. they should be ashamed of themselfves but they are not look how they are all acting the cr i wonder if the jury is paying any attention to thse two while listening to this testimony.I am afraid that they will not get convicted just because of how the law is written was it criminal intent i think the judge did say the defense will maybe get a joa for the first charge but maybe i am wrong. we all see that this was wrong but the 12 jurors its hard to tell what they think. i know defense is going to show ring camera footage they want in and maybe some will change their minds on him being just in what he did to him.. i hope they get convicted. sometimes the way the law is written it can be hard to get a guilty when we all know they are guilty of abusing this child @@avg5658

Agree 100%.

Why do you say "worse than a DOG"? WHO treats an animal, ANY ANIMAL like this? It is also illegal to do that and it is called animal abuse. You can and will go to prison for that too if you're caught. You say that, as if it's normal to treat a dog that way but to do that to a kid is horrifying. BOTH are horrifying. 😢😢😢😢

You make a good point. But the reason it was not brought up as a potential outcome is because it is only 'potential'. So it would not have been allowed to be entered as such b/c it is speculation, not evidence. Ironically though, I'm not sure what to speculate about a fear of exposure because he was willing to go to trial as opposed to a plea deal, which would have lessened their exposure. The dad is just so self-righteous, thinking the world would agree with him. Ha~!! If he gets convicted, I wonder if it is too late for the mom to take a plea deal. She should. The boy should not have to be put through separate trials thereby having to testify twice. It is also traumatic. Do you know how they were able to get separate trials or where I can read about how this case got exposed, and more details?

@andreabalfour On point. Could not have said it better. I see from comments not everyone gets it. You do.

I would LOVE to hear the prosecutor ask them what they intended to do with him when he became a legal adult just to watch them squirm.

@impressiveemu1259 Fair point. 😆

Wow, good point. Yes thank that could have been very possible with the points you made!

Besides many, this scares the "heck" out of me. My fear is that he was locked in. Sick.

i wonder what parts of the videos the defense is going to put on showing if he acted out towards them in the box.. we know each side gets to pick and choose hwat parts of the video they will play.. defense is going to find stuff to make their client look good. i know its their job but i dont like it one bit.. they will still make this all about the child is at fault and not the GROWN ADULTs they sure did not act like adults in my book they are guilty of abuse plain and simple lets hope the jury feels like we all do here,

Three out of four ain't bad

@@deadmanswife3625 you spelled ZERO wrong. Yelling and threatening isn't nurturing. Isolation isn't stable attachment. A box isn't a stimulating environment. And locking a child into a box alone isn't safe. They failed to meet his most basic emotional needs. They failed to show a child that they picked via adoption the love he deserved. I hope they rot in prison and I couldn't be happier that dad didn't take his sweetheart deal. They belong in a box.

@@tishwitch sorry for the misspelling. Well he's alive that's the positive outlook

@@deadmanswife3625 yes. Because he ran away and because the contractor building the box in Florida knew it was wrong and contacted the local PD... If these things hadn't happened, who knows what story we'd be hearing. I can't imagine how it must have felt to be locked in a wooden box with no windows in the dark in southern Florida without AC.... This kid would probably be dead if he'd had the flu while he was in that box.

@@tishwitch yeah

im wondering why the state did not bring that up and ask why were you screaming and breaking things i would have spoke up if i were the state. i hate to see what portion of the vidoes defense is going to show they will show more of the childs behaviours not the adults the point is he was a child and his parents were the adults they should have acted diffrently

i am so glad someone said that. I am adopted thank goodness i had such loving supportive parents that i did i know i am one of the fortunate ones.. Some even think that oh they get money for adopting him NO they dont that is if you foster...not that your saying that i just mean i heard someone else say that.. you hit the nail on the head HE IS THEIR CHILD and not to be his advocate to get the treatments or help he needed.. i was sick as a baby my parents did not give me back to the childrens home they loved me took me to the proper dr got the help i needed and i lived a great life.

i watched the live stream on law and crime network. they showed the videos there to the jurors with the victims face blurred. will they be released to public?

​@emmamcmurter8242 I watched the same channel and didn't see any videos just sound. I searched other channels with the same results. Fingers crossed, they show it on Tuesday when court resumes.

All so cold....this child needed a loving home...not this cold strict family

Because brilliant Tim went with the box option instead

I think they thought they could punish the bad behavior out but that doesn’t work with ODD/conduct disorder but parents don’t know how to handle this type of disorder. It’s a very lonely and frustrating road with very little help. He had ADHD and probably RAD too. I feel for the parents because I’ve been in their shoes but this is not the answer to the problem. If he was violent, he should have been hospitalized and gotten more help instead of trying to do it this way. Wilderness and therapeutic boarding schools are another answer to keep other family members safe but very expensive and usually not covered by insurance.

Because it was too late to get him counseling. He would have spilled the beans in therapy.

Maybe I'll wait for the jury

@@deadmanswife3625 if the jury are filled with normal people, they will find that the father did abuse this child and caged this child on the First Degree. The mother will get the same . You can see that the judge already stated that the jury if they are normal minded will see that the child being locked in the room for hours on end in the darkness should be given the opportunity to decide if it is torture. Because in the 1800s prisoners were kept in solitary confinement in a small room as torture with no windows, in complete darkness for hours on end and forced to defecate /urinate on themselves, their bed, on the floor or if they were lucky enough to find the bucket in the darkness to relieve themselves, not to mention the smell , the disease and infection that could be caught and, psychological damage that was done to them, the prisoners also suffered blindness from being in the dark all the time. This boy was lucky not to go blind like the 1800 prisoners and was lucky he was rescued in time.

Also another point to add, the father and mother definitely knew what they were doing was wrong, according to his dental friend who he coached sport for their daughters , that the adopted son was amongst visitors in the house when they came over. If the father and mother believed what they were doing was right by locking up the boy in the room because they were so afraid he would harm people or be naughty and break things all the time and not listen, then would have kept the boy locked in the room when visitors were around. But they didn't. The father would have told his friend that i have to keep my son locked in the room all the time because we are afraid, but he didn't do that either. Instead he told his friend his son doesn't play any sports. The father would have shown the friend the urine and poo in the room, but i am sure the father and mother cleaned up the box before the friend or visitors came to their house to view the box. They treated the boy the same way that asylum center in USA many years ago which was shut down for abuse of patients ,that when authorities came to audit the hospital, the doctors and nurses would hide all the severely ill, abused patients in the basement below, so autditors wouldnt close the facility down. The father did the reverse here, he let the boy out to show that there is nothing bad going on , that the boy isn't being locked up in a room all day for simply existing and when visitors left, the boy was locked in the room again. That is abuse and they weren't making a mistake, just like the doctors and nurses in the asylum hospital knew what they were doing.