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BREAK IN OR BUST?! Allis Chalmers 210 Engine Overhaul 

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All of the work of rebuilding the engine of the Allis Chalmers 210 tractor is finally complete... but how long will this engine last?!
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@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE Год назад
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@lourias
@lourias Год назад
Your series of videos is better than any drama available on TV 📺 or movie 🎬 ! I have been sitting on edge this whole time.
@AzzKicker-bz1cb
@AzzKicker-bz1cb Год назад
@Jim’s Automotive Machine Shop, Inc. I think your wife was doing a little putting on(acting like she might be upset) over the amount of money you have spent on this tractor!!! I’ll bet she knows better than you how much you’ve spent on it(she was probably counting the dollar signs in her head the whole time)!!! I’m not saying you won’t have to give her that trip to Hawaii, but she might let you tag along!!!
@thomashodis5740
@thomashodis5740 Год назад
I have that exact same snap-on torque wrench. Love it
@deanmeyer1815
@deanmeyer1815 Год назад
Sounds a lot better under load than before. Hope she serves you well for many years. Still a lot cheaper than a new one. (The tractor, by the way, not the wife!)😁
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE Год назад
LOL
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 Год назад
Yeh you're right a replacement wife is a VERY expensive swap!
@Babycrat
@Babycrat Год назад
I think the end of the video make it all complete !!!
@kenh3344
@kenh3344 Год назад
Like that comment funny. ? The tractor not the wife?
@domenicomonteleone3055
@domenicomonteleone3055 Год назад
​@@JAMSIONLINE This is an excellent video 📹 hi 👋 from 🇨🇦 father and son Team is amazing respect back to the both of you 💙 ❤ 😊😊😊
@bradgotschall3259
@bradgotschall3259 Год назад
Loved watching Dad move further away from Mom as the prices went up. Also wise to take Mama to HI😂
@larrymitchell3502
@larrymitchell3502 Год назад
Sounds like Mom's going to HI - whether or not Farmer Jim goes along...
@richardspees841
@richardspees841 Год назад
i live in Hawaii? Where would I take my wife? :)
@alanellsworth5961
@alanellsworth5961 Год назад
Yeah, better practice saying "Aloha!" Nice work. Thanks for sharing.
@dontmakememad6759
@dontmakememad6759 Год назад
@@richardspees841 Switzerland
@laleyendadejesus94
@laleyendadejesus94 Год назад
He was making running space 😂😂😂
@tommymohlen8919
@tommymohlen8919 Год назад
End is so awesome and wholesome! Good laughs right there, good to see her up and running like a charm to! Thanks for taking us along your little adventure here boys
@JAMSIONLINE
@JAMSIONLINE Год назад
A lot of you recommended we contact Area Diesel Service for help with the pump! Unfortunately, we had already sent it to another shop, but they did give us some advice and make a video speculating on what could’ve gone wrong with our pump! Be sure to check it out: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-o81RCxEfIEg.html
@tonyking9235
@tonyking9235 Год назад
HOW MENEY ACRES DO YOU FARM JIM . SUPRRISED THAT YOU BUILD ENGINES AS WELL DO FARMING .
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen Год назад
you might want to pin this comment to the top.
@JoshKilen
@JoshKilen Год назад
Also where did you get the gauges you used?
@sprocket9200
@sprocket9200 Год назад
Awe! That last bit! She's a keeper! I liked how he kept backing up 😂
@red95gts
@red95gts Год назад
I’m not a Diesel guy, and definitely not a Tractor guy, but I’m really, really excited to see this. I think we can all appreciate the attention to detail and the feeling of victory after a difficult project. Well done!
@Zogg1281
@Zogg1281 Год назад
That confession to his Mrs. went a lot better then I would have guessed. No shouting. No "sleeping with the dog for the month". No threats on his man hood. You, Sir, are a very, very lucky man to have such an understanding wife. She is the type of women most men would search their whole life for. Happy early Anniversary to the loving couple. xXx
@mozer30
@mozer30 11 месяцев назад
He was wise to keep the camera rolling…😂
@drakefallentine8351
@drakefallentine8351 Год назад
That engine is in better condition now than it was when it left the Allis Chalmers factory. Another excellent job, well done!
@UniqueAerial
@UniqueAerial Год назад
The world is missing men like Jim everyday....keep up the old skool stuff!!!
@Stevesbe
@Stevesbe Год назад
Yeah the future generations look bleak
@timlee4204
@timlee4204 5 месяцев назад
Thanks Jim, Yes I think you have found the problem, injector pump too far ahead with too much fuel can kill a motor, especially one that works full load for many hours like a tractor engine. Thanks guys for posting your experiences. Ted from down under.
@madusmaxamus8670
@madusmaxamus8670 Год назад
The initial cost was not much, but the final cost is still far below what a new tractor would cost. All in all that 210 should be a good field worker for you. Having been in the auto repair business for 45 years I knew what you were doing and it was more than just one thing that you were fighting. You were able to diagnose what it was and it seems that you now have a good reliable A C 210 to work for you for a long time. My family are international people and my cousin would take the winter to go and find one to restore for the following year to work for him.
@rogerwhiting9310
@rogerwhiting9310 Год назад
It's personal now. He doesn't let things that he has gotten good at over the years beat him. That's the guy that you want to learn from
@iainball2023
@iainball2023 Год назад
Really enjoyed seeing this come to life again. Thanks for taking us along for the ride 😇
@Dave-gf3kd
@Dave-gf3kd Год назад
First of all, I love your videos and channel, because it’s so educational and about the mechanic work, processes etc, and you haven’t gotten carried away thinking that it’s you individually we are interested in. 2. I’d love to learn more about “pulling” and how you ultimately decide how “hard” to pull, where to run the tractor etc, and the economics of where you run the tractor. 3. BUT the ending with MOM was priceless!!!!!!!!!! I’m going to be laughing and smiling all day because of that!!!!!!
@pas3463
@pas3463 Год назад
Watching from the Netherlands, great work. Big fan since day 1. You are amazing showing mistakes and failures, and that makes you a thrustworthy and amazing workshop. Keeping up the good work!
@michaelbailey7483
@michaelbailey7483 Год назад
It is so good to see that there are still families like this in America
@chickenfishhybrid44
@chickenfishhybrid44 Год назад
There's many, they're just not the ones you're generally going to see on TV or online.
@markeasterwood1187
@markeasterwood1187 Месяц назад
I would say most American families are like this, doing their own thing, but we're too boring and don't fit the narrative for the media.
@andrewwhite2773
@andrewwhite2773 Год назад
Congratulations fella's glad to see it running the way it should I'm happy that it worked out for your dad.
@benm9193
@benm9193 Год назад
Family is the best!! You've got a great one!!
@rugerfarming5387
@rugerfarming5387 Год назад
I am just glad you got it lined out it looks like. Should make a nice tractor for years to come.
@nathanahrens4280
@nathanahrens4280 Год назад
Man I am happy to see the cleaning guy finally get his toy up and running. I do feel bad for him having to fork out that much money to get it running plus a trip yo Hawaii.. but that's how it goes sometimes
@tangogolf846
@tangogolf846 Год назад
It's good to see the tractor running smooth and in limits. Also good to see the maintenance goes beyond machines and includes your relationship. 😉
@Velkanis
@Velkanis Год назад
i think it was a mixture of the fuel pump timing being slightly off (pumps dont necesarily time in tdc as proven to me by ford and their 20° btdc pump timing) and the extra 20% fuel mashed into it that made them tight gapped rings have the sweat of their lives! the engine now sounds much more health and happy to be working and honestly 17k old school still beats newer equipment! cheers
@gs1100ed
@gs1100ed Год назад
Excellent that you guys contacted Area Diesel Service! Those guys are the real deal.
@jazzerbyte
@jazzerbyte Год назад
Great to see it out in the field pulling and sounding great!
@tomcommander6670
@tomcommander6670 3 месяца назад
That last scene made me smile and chuckle out loud. I could feel the love and respect.
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek Год назад
It looks and sounds like you won the battle. We don't hear much of Allis anymore. My deceased wife's father was a machinist at the Harvey, IL Buda plant and was responsible for making fuel-injection needles for the big Persian Orange tractors. He retired before the company went bust in 1985. The machines were highly thought of for many decades.
@Backyardmech1
@Backyardmech1 Год назад
I’m happy to see you guys got it running again and took some extra care and precautions this time. Hope it gives you many years of good use.
@wymple09
@wymple09 Год назад
Do it right, do it once.
@frankhollein7093
@frankhollein7093 Год назад
I think that turned up pump, was your doom. When I spend more then I should, I always tell myself that it is a learning charge. Sent the bill to the training department. 😊
@halletts1171
@halletts1171 10 месяцев назад
Best video yet! Tractor is done for the second time, I'll bet Mom gets a trip to Hawaii, maybe by herself since the tractor cost sooo much and Dad has to work more to pay for the trip. Reminds me of growing up on the farm in PA and having to work on everything we owed because we couldn't afford to send it out to get fixed. Keep up the great video and include Mom more!
@warbirdwf
@warbirdwf Год назад
Mom was in good spirits hearing the "investment" Dad made with the tractor. Somehow I think Mom might be going on a shopping trip soon. lol.
@travisk5589
@travisk5589 Год назад
12:22 Lol. I was looking at his hair and noticed that it looked real today. Thanks for the laugh and tugging on it.
@shawn7851
@shawn7851 Год назад
Good to see that this didn't make the scrapyard thanks for saving another allis chalmers tractor sounds really good and looks great. My uncle was a huge A/C collector it was fun farming with them in NE miss those days thanks for sharing the complete rebuild
@randymagnum143
@randymagnum143 Год назад
210s are bringing $15-20k😂 I don't think it would have made the scrapyard!
@billferris5292
@billferris5292 Год назад
Great job, I knew someone with your experience wouldn't assemble an engine with insufficient clearances & it had to be fuel related. Glad it's working put for you
@leonwittwer1199
@leonwittwer1199 Год назад
Did you check the piston deck height,in case of bent connecting rods due to coolant leak under head gasket or rain water down exhaust pipe?
@358trucking
@358trucking Год назад
Awesome to see it up and running again 😀👍
@Mrcaffinebean
@Mrcaffinebean Год назад
Congrats on the successful rebuild! Love seeing videos with you and your dad working and learning together. Hopefully this will be the last time you need to touch the engine in a long time. And the clip at the end with Mom with both funny and touching. I’ve had a few conversations like that with my wife 😂
@richb4099
@richb4099 Год назад
Very funny ending.....Glad you got it running well. Hope it stays fine for you...and I think it will since it sounded great...
@AllisPeterson
@AllisPeterson Год назад
Heitman Tractor Salvage in Durand Wisconsin has new pto shafts. You should also have put the new updated rocker arm shaft in it, and plugged the rocker shaft oil drain tube. If I remember correctly allis was for every pound of boost its 10 horsepower. I'd also shim the oil pressure relief valve, that's kinda low on oil pressure when cold. All of our 426s have also double that when cold.
@tjlqk3
@tjlqk3 Год назад
I was thinking the same, that oil pressure seems pretty low.
@bradrynes525
@bradrynes525 Год назад
It did have break in oil in it which is usually a thinner oil.
@Dave-gf3kd
@Dave-gf3kd Год назад
Just got done watching the Area Diesel vid talking about how the injector pump works and all it’s variables. Fascinating stuff. Hopefully your tractor is now happy and allows you to farm with it.
@dougslaughter8393
@dougslaughter8393 Год назад
All wives the same on money spent?
@andyjones6361
@andyjones6361 Год назад
Good work Jim. Having your skill set and machine shop!! Is a beautiful thing!!
@JayWelchy
@JayWelchy Год назад
Uh oh! Oh dear ... when Mama is in the shop, Dad has some explaining to do! The SELL though is classic! " ... tires are good" Best part of the whole video :) Lol, relatable good stuff
@benduecker9650
@benduecker9650 Год назад
Really enjoyed this series. The engine sound after the final rebuild is music to my ears. I just bought my first diesel, an IDI F-250. It’s been really fun learning to work on those old diesels. Thankfully it’s a bit less expensive than your “$500” tractor! Hope it gives you guys many decades of service after this build.
@Cole-xq2tl
@Cole-xq2tl Год назад
Brings back memories of riding with dad in our 7060 Allis. Good times.
@Likeaudio
@Likeaudio Год назад
The father son team is so awesome. ❤
@akope
@akope Год назад
Sure seems like you've got it now- great reward for careful rework. Now for a pto shaft video!
@andresouza2314
@andresouza2314 Год назад
That's so satisfying to see this machine running in the field. Well done!
@petegraham1458
@petegraham1458 Год назад
I think it sounds good and responds to load as it should, as you say “ time will tell”!
@Srdieselshawn
@Srdieselshawn Год назад
That’s awesome to see a pto dyno at your shop! I also watched the video from Area Diesel as they described the possible issues your Allis Chalmers injection pump may have. You guys have put a lot of work into this tractor and I enjoy the videos of the process! I’m liking the EGT and boost gauge. Very important gauges to have even if the tractor is just stock power.
@user-gj4ei6dc5q
@user-gj4ei6dc5q Год назад
Awesome! Wish our geographic locations were closer so as to call on your shop for it's thorough and unrivaled services. Happy upcoming anniversary.
@jaydekeyser
@jaydekeyser 15 дней назад
Brings back memories as a senior in High school working a co-op job, plowing snow in an old CJ-5 with the same F head motor, always ran great. I did cylinder heads at a machine shop, Komop's Garage in Green Bay, WI.
@teddythomas281
@teddythomas281 Год назад
I love the sound of the 426. I have one in a 7GB Fiat-Allis track loader. Straight pipe forestry sweeps.
@DFI429
@DFI429 Год назад
Tractor sounds awesome... great job guys!
@kylesorensen83
@kylesorensen83 Год назад
The in cab video brings back tons of memories of riding along as a kid when we'd visit the family farm.
@MrMotorNerd
@MrMotorNerd Год назад
Love your work guys , The tractor is pulling , like a 14 year old boy . Cheers from Australia .
@jeffcooper5789
@jeffcooper5789 Год назад
Glad the tractor is up and running. Hawaii is a great payoff to keep the wife happy.
@cherylmunro7637
@cherylmunro7637 Год назад
Glad to see that thing finally running and maybe earning its keep. Fingers crossed
@andrewrobinson2869
@andrewrobinson2869 11 месяцев назад
Now there is a keeper, what a wonderful wife, mother, woman . God Bless you All.
@tdkrei
@tdkrei Год назад
Great video series and the tractor money reveal was the topper!. Keep on smiling.
@Chestnut0923
@Chestnut0923 Год назад
Even at the higher gear that tractor just walks away with the disc with no troubles at all
@Deeked
@Deeked Год назад
I love the relationship between father and son, the property, and that 210. Especially mom. Thank you for telling your story.
@seanitaliano8759
@seanitaliano8759 Год назад
Sounds so much better! I think she's gonna live this time.
@MrWayneJohn1
@MrWayneJohn1 Год назад
That engine makes some real pretty sounds. Less than $20k for a work horse like that is money well spent.
@kevinsantema6807
@kevinsantema6807 Год назад
Some times it is really easy to over look the obvious problem, injector pump out of time, I struggle with that sometimes when you know something isn’t right, but in my mind I think no that’s probably nit the problem, and then go looking for some other cause, thanks for taking us along and sharing, we all learned alot, and how quickly the engine failed, Thank you
@markbrown-us4xe
@markbrown-us4xe Год назад
Also that's a good size field. Happy for you guys.
@AquaMarine1000
@AquaMarine1000 Год назад
Mum should be happy you didn't purchase a new digital monster. This generation of machinery is the most reliable and cost effective. Thanks for the journey. Cheers from Australia
@thesmallenginekid
@thesmallenginekid Год назад
Would definitely like to see more of the parts washing guy farming.
@marvinrieger7129
@marvinrieger7129 Год назад
We still farm with Allis Chalmers tractors but mainly 8000 series and 100 series for haying. I have an injection pump that needs rebuilt on my 8050 and after your situation I am afraid of taking it off myself to send it off. I might just let our local AGCO dealer do the work. I have rebuilt several 426 engines but never took the pump off of one maybe there is a good reason for that. I enjoyed your rebuild and am glad you have it up and running again. Looks like good flat ground in your part of CO.
@stevejohnstonbaugh9171
@stevejohnstonbaugh9171 Год назад
YEAH BUDDY! 😊 No swiss watch runs better than that. Love the additional instrumentation. In this day of electronic everything you could sell that as an an aftermarket package for every serious old iron farm tractor that's being worked. Add a transmission temp. and hydraulic pressure gages coupled to an app to record measurements and you would have a product that would greatly benefit every farmer who runs old iron. It is my opinion that running old iron is the way to go unless you are independently wealthy. Too many new farmers make a bargain with the devil (the bank) and wind up losing everything - including the best years of their lives. This video series is a real service to every family farmer who wants to make a comfortable living and be debt free. BRAVO! 😊 I really appreciate the shout out to Area Diesel Service. Great example of how the RU-vid community can be used to bring together the best of the best! So happy to hear they lived up to the recommendations!
@1944chevytruck
@1944chevytruck Год назад
CONGRATS! GOOD JOB U 2! ..... Hope she last for many years!.... I like the idea of all the new gauges, great idea!
@johnsenecal2732
@johnsenecal2732 Год назад
I guess I’m old schooled but I have never heard of belt timing. 40 plus years as a heavy equipment mechanic. I’m retired now but I’m going to look that one up. Sometimes s*** happens. Seen motor do the same and never found out why. Had one that the inside of the coolant hose would collapse and restrict flow even though it was a new hose. Good Luck
@harveywright396
@harveywright396 Год назад
Belt timing is just a joke. The rest is serious.
@sc5015
@sc5015 Год назад
I've been looking forward to this day, to hear that come to life again!! Sounds amazing!
@funnlivinit
@funnlivinit Год назад
This is the best video you guys have put out to date! Not just because you got the tractor running. That is awesome! But also the conversation at the end. Priceless! Have fun in Hawaii Mom! (My opinion is that the injection pump was the root of your problem. That lead to a cascade failure of the engine.)
@firstlast---
@firstlast--- Год назад
Sounds perfect. Always feels good when you wrap up a build and everything works
@wayupnort6271
@wayupnort6271 Год назад
Good people! Thanks for sharing👍🇺🇸
@samdurbin6566
@samdurbin6566 Год назад
I really enjoyed that being i was around my neighbor's 200 Allis Chalmers some and we paired the 200 up against my 2840 JD on my feed grinder , lol , my neighbor hated John Deeres , but we had a good time
@ajm1268
@ajm1268 Год назад
Well done guys, loved your diagnosis process.
@recoilrob324
@recoilrob324 Год назад
Back when I first saw the video of the original build running...I remarked out loud that it was running really clean! No smoke...which I think is a bad sign. You want to see smoke a little when making throttle changes and until the turbo comes up to match the flow you should see a little darkening of the exhaust. We know the pump was put together 180 out...and if they aren't symmetrical inside this could have changed how the flow works enough to make it a problem as well as the timing. Exhaust looks good and normal now...I think it's fixed right good.
@jeffcarpenter5147
@jeffcarpenter5147 Год назад
Hey , She got a sense of humor , That makes Her a definite keeper!
@hugoboyce9648
@hugoboyce9648 Год назад
Great video! it was nice seeing all your hard work in action! Loved hearing that big diesel run
@adamfletcher4262
@adamfletcher4262 Год назад
Absolutely lovely to hear it pulling up the field sounds lovely ! Definitely would like to see this tractor out in the field again
@jonrowsam6793
@jonrowsam6793 Год назад
Great job guys Thanks for sharing your thought process
@duffyfive0632
@duffyfive0632 18 дней назад
That was great at the end!!!!!! Kudos to the cleaning guy!!!!!!
@85CEKR
@85CEKR Год назад
My Dad had one of these as well as a 180 I believe back in the day. Such good old Tractors.
@CARyan08
@CARyan08 Год назад
Loved the comment when Dad said..."this is the fastest this disc has ever gone across this field". LOL...weeeeee. I think we should get millennial farmer to head to CO for a visit. He would love the machine shop and seeing the new shop and farm.
@aaronbrown5252
@aaronbrown5252 Год назад
This has been a fun series to watch - thank you for taking the time. And, as others have said, the engine sounds super happy now.
@rossilake218
@rossilake218 Год назад
Soooo Jim's going on Vacation Soon. Hawaii sounds Wonderful.
@dpdeere
@dpdeere Год назад
Many years ago, I borrowed my sons 210 Allis Chalmers to plow the field out back. We had a five bottom Oliver, 16 inch moldboard plow hooked up to it, and I was plowing along, not paying much attention, and I got too close to a tree along side the field, ripping the depth wheel off the plow, and I never even heard the engine slow down. That 426ci engine had a long stroke that said push me to my limit. I hated when he sold it. Jim, if you keep the pyrometer below 1200deg you should never melt down a piston. Loved the video and keep on farming.
@petejohnson1724
@petejohnson1724 5 месяцев назад
Love your mum want to see more of them both you are a lucky guy to have such a great family
@shjones27
@shjones27 Год назад
Satisfying, hopefully she holds together!! Good job!!
@paul-ev3mb
@paul-ev3mb Год назад
Hello, I really enjoyed watching your video, I found your site on RU-vid shorts, and I enjoy watching videos of father and sons working together on older equipment that a father has a big heart for, I love how your whole family gets involved in making the videos enjoyable. I look forward to seeing more videos from you and your family, Thank You so Much. Stay Safe and keep the videos coming.
@russelljohnson6243
@russelljohnson6243 Год назад
This ending made it worth it all! You guy's are awesome!
@charlietanner6211
@charlietanner6211 Год назад
loved the ending but i have a feeling you,re gonna have more boy thats a lot to put in a allis gotta love it
@WcSuka
@WcSuka Год назад
I know this is a video about breaking in an engine on an old tractor but you riding around in the tractor with jim made me so emotional thinking about riding in the tractor with my grandpa when i was little. Good times and God bless you guys. Love this channel
@tonyphilbrook8650
@tonyphilbrook8650 Год назад
Both our 200's have the range selector and throttle right next to you. Seems a bit more convenient than reaching. The old girl sounds good.
@vinceandtheresa1243
@vinceandtheresa1243 Год назад
What a great series! Thanks for sharing. Good luck farming and have a nice trip to Hawaii :)! Ontario, Canada
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 Год назад
Awesome job Jim and Nicholas. I think you have a winner. Tractor sounds great. Thanks for sharing the whole process. Was funny Dad telling Mom the price. I have been there and done that a few times. Honesty is always the best policy. Take care, Ed.
@russellridge8623
@russellridge8623 Год назад
LOL!! 😂. Dad not wasting any time getting tractor out of shop. Spent too much time installing that insulation to have diesel smoke spewing all over it. Hope no more issues
@georgecaspira3637
@georgecaspira3637 Год назад
Love seeing the BOSS, thanks for sharing her with us. Great video lads.
@logancarter2134
@logancarter2134 Год назад
The ending is the best part!!!
@ryanflaherty3153
@ryanflaherty3153 Год назад
This is the best channel on youtube. Machine work and just tooling around with big rigs. Family friendly fun!
@andrewnardo1021
@andrewnardo1021 Год назад
I take my hat off to you guys for putting this out there. I love my projects and rebuilding engines but I couldn’t share it on here, simply because the amount of people that like to hear themselves talk and just spew in the comments section would drive me insane. I’m all for advice, but some people just get way too passionate about it. I had a ford 2n I rebuilt last year that wouldn’t hold oil prime. I tore it down 3 times just to find that the diameter of the pump gears in the rebuild kit was 20 thousandths too small. The reason it didn’t get caught was the pump housing radius is so tight that that a .002 feeler gauge would give a false reading just from binding when checking the tooth to wall clearance. I luckily had a set of gears from a known good pump that I checked and it led me down the right path. Long story short, I shared my findings on a forum and the amount of people that jumped me telling me it was anything but what I found was insane. Then when I responded with all of my measurements and pictures I was told to pretty much be quiet because I was arguing with guys that had been on the forum since the 90s. You guys are awesome, keep doing what you do.
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