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If your daughter at 13 years old said a 32 year old is giving her boy advice ? Then says i cannot say what that advice is, i will keep it in the text. We as a society would want to deem that individual a PDF file. Stop making excuses for Drake. You would not make excuses for a regular guy.
@@everestarmstrong7053 even before we answer that if a grown man is talking with an underage girl what happens in everyday life, they get live streamed to the entire world and the police follow up with an arrest there is no benefit of the doubt given.
@@Awsme_JAlmostmpointless as a diss but I gotta disagree, the music was fire. “Tell me who gone stop me! The industry’s cooked as I pick the carcass aparrt”
That Malibu’s Most Wanted bar on They Not Like Us is one of my favorite bars from this whole thing . Watching the movie you understand, Jamie Kennedy was a child who’s parents were absent but he was dumb rich and well protected from everything. He discovers Hip Hop and immerses himself in it to the point where his entire life becomes a Hip Hop caricature and nobody can tell him the truth about himself. He is forever convinced he is street and leans on Hip Hop culture to convince others he is actually like that.
I will agree with Ebro.. the time I listened to “to pimp a butterfly “ I wasn’t mature enough to understand it but now listening back to it over the last year I found myself loving it more and more
It's funny how Drake was the one who brought up the PDF file accusations on Taylor Made when he said ..."Talk about him likin' young girls, that's a gift from me Heard it on the Budden Podcast, it's gotta be true"
he tried to get ahead of the accusations but the way kendrick delivered the accusations via meet the grahams was so scathing and overpowered drakes strategy.
@@oladeebiazazi4538 its a diss record, however you and rosenberg wanna slice it to make yall feel better, cool. Its a diss record and one of the top ones if not the top diss of all time.
@ 24:50 Cannibus didn't Diss LL Cool J originally. The verse Rosenberg is speaking on wasn't intended to be a diss towards LL, when Cannibus says "Yo L, is that a Mic on your Arm, let me borrow that." LL felt some kind of way about it and rewrote his verse afterward and truly sucker-punched Cannibus in that Beef.
Most of the conversation has nothing to do with dissecting the biggest lines from the Drake & Kendrick album. I wish someone would have redirected the conversation.
really appreciated the conversation around albums not being received well at the time of their release because of where one’s mental is at during that specific point in time. great stuff Ebro 😊
I would never want that battle...there is no need for that especially when they both respect each other as artists..and it's actually genuine. Drake has said some really disrespectful things about KDot in several interviews. You can't pin homies against homies ....every diss record was made because someone disrespected the other artist..nothing random which made it organic and real
Y'all got the LL battle wrong. Canabis made a reference to LL tattoo on 4 3 2 1 and LL took it worng and dissed him on the same song, then 2nd round KO, then LL with the ripper strikes back, which to me is the best diss track ever
Rosenberg… that’s an L take on hit em up. 2pac not going the whole song was a diss in itself. And the entire song is a diss and his verses are fire. That song and the ride out cursing out mobb deep and all…. That was impactful
The fact that Pac has a 2nd verse Rosenberg never heard is crazy. As much as he talks hip hop I’m surprised. Biggie was the best New York had so this song meant so much because no one dared speak ill towards him. Remember “Biggie when I used to let you sleep on the couch and begged your b**** to let you sleep in the house.”
Biggie the best to ever do it but hit em up is top 5 without question. It was epic because it was against biggie who was the biggest rapper in the game at the time.
The line "certified lover boy, certified pedophiles" There's an s on the end. It wasn't about Drake himself, especially when you take into account the previous line about Baka's case. Kendrick is saying Drake certifies pedos. At least in that line.
The most modern, highest ranking albums would be Good Kid, Mad City, To Pimp a Butterfly, Beyonce's Lemonade, Renaissance, or Cowboy Carter. Adele's albums will be on there, in particular 21.
Mos Def didn't dis him. He was just being honest. Let that man be.😅 Also Frieky and Weird do mean something for the Westcoast. They said when the case involves women, children, or elders you're a weirdo or a freak depending on what it is. They don't be on that predator stuff.
I'm noticing there's a lack of West Coast representation in these conversations. Lots of stuff getting lost in translation cause these people don't know West Coast culture.
Re: Hit Em up: In 'Brooklyn's Finest (top 3 back and forth rhyme ever imho)' Big said "Gotta go coolio mean it's gettin too hot / If FAith had twins she'd prolly have two Pacs / Get it: Tu...Pac?" Validation or just word play to show he wasn't trippin?
Ether is #1. It’s still the biggest heavy weight battle ever. Two dudes cut from the same cloth, two Kings in NY but different burroughs. Both from the projects as well an elevated mentality. They equally understood what hip hop meant to the culture. For Nas to get the W during Jays zenith makes Ether #1 imo!
Rosenberg that's incorrect. Canibus didn't dis LL on 4321 originally he only said "Yo L, is that a mic on your arm let me borrow that" and LL took offense to that line and then dissed Canibus on 4321 even though Canibus didn't mean it disrespectfully
Hit’em up checks every box. I don’t understand the debate. He’s direct, he disrespects him lyrically and by stating his not on his level and letting his other rappers rap. Then he went after bad boy in its entirety and fan base.
I love y’all. Rosenberg, you my mans, bro. Much respect to you and your love for Hip Hop, but Hit ‘Em Up is without question one of THEE hallmark diss records of all-time. I think with what Kendrick has done in the time from Control through this beef with Drake sets him in a rare class, but it can’t erase what Hit ‘Em Up was for the culture. When somebody says in today’s world “F**k *so and so* as a staff, record label, AND as a MF’n crew”, we ALL know what birthed that phrase. It needed no entendres, and if anyone was lyrically capable of pulling those elements off, ‘Pac was the one. Hit ‘Em Up didn’t need it. The vitriol spoke for itself. 🫡
I'm with Ebro regarding the “don't like women” lyric. Lamar is too classy to cheapen his work with homophobia as to my knowledge on his last album it appears that he took a pro-lgbtq+ stance. But i digress. I interpretated the lyric as he was calling drake a misogynist again. However, the lyric can be interchanged. Terrible but quite impressive.
Unfortunately,thats why Facebook still remains one of the better platforms. You can still choose favorites to make sure you see those first. It’s limited,but still an option. The engagement isn’t there,just ask nessa. But you can still manipulate the algorithm a bit once you’ve followed too many people..
Being as objective as possible as a Kendrick Stan, in Family Matters Drake was in his bag the deepest I have ever seen him go as a rapper, it is a well written song minus the side bar disses for the “others”. I think he was just out-strategized, that to me is the most glaring thing because he is usually very good where strategy is concerned in beefs. I mean Kendrick is using the exact same line he used in the heart pt 4 on euphoria. “Don’t tell no lies bout me, Won’t tell no truths bout you” He just got outclassed and fell into all of Kendrick’s traps.
But it also feels like the whole Industry wanted Kendrick to win… the only reason Kendrick dropped not like us is because MTG wasn’t doing it against Family matters… that’s fact
@@TheWalletheadeveryone i know in real life says kdot won and mtg was the nail in the coffin. Maybe the internet thinks differently but in real life is kdot by a mile
Two of the best diss tracks to go back and forth.. “Dre Day” vs “Real Muthfuccin G’z” As far as battle records.. Gotta go with Canibus “2nd Round Knockout” Young Canibus was trying to take LL’s head off.
Canibus didn’t go at L on 4321 He asked to use the mic on L arm & LL don’t like that made him change the lyric & then dissed canibus on 4321 then we got 2nd rd knocout & then LL had jac the ripper & Can-I-Bus yes u may were he kilt him canibus lost the battle & career he was the first ja rule by a Ny goat
“You weren’t mature enough” I think is misguided. “You weren’t receptive of it at the time” is better. Sometimes you just aren’t looking for the same qualities that you’re hearing. So you don’t hear it the way you would when you’re looking for those qualities.
