Breaking Down the GC After the Time Trial | Tour de France 2024 Stage 7 | JB2 

The talk is about how Remco has changed physically, but from the interviews I've seen, the young man has matured a lot in the last year.

Every minute of every one of these JB2 podcasts are packed with gems. Thank you, gentlemen. 🙏

This is the most informative podcast on the Tour, thank you for the great questions and for making all of your knowledge so accessible!

7 stages, 7 different winners. It's been an exciting and excellent Tour thus far.

Adam Yates said he sacrificed early on Galibier because Ayuso was not in place...

The UAE is missing rafael majka! He's tadej's first lieutenant!

Love your commentary! ❤ Johan may call himself a geek, but he's a genius, hands down! Thank you for sharing your talent with us every year at the Tour de France! 😊

As as Slovenian i can confirm story around Pogacar and Hauptman as director. Very good guy and very good ex cyclist ❤

Well done gents. The best show of analysis and context. Keep it up!

These two along with George Hincapie and TheCyclingDane are the best. The pro peloton is packed with great young talent so the sport has an exciting present and future.

Thanks For a great show❤❤❤❤🇩🇰

Thanks again JBs Great show. As always very interesting and educational. Johan deserves wider exposure to reach more bike racing fans.

Gentleman, thank you for the insight. Johan, looking forward to seeing your results on the two devices. I also add one other device to manage my ride, my smile.

Love the show, thank you! Man, I’d love to hear Johan discuss the stages live. I love Phil and Bob, but Johan’s insights are so good!

Looking forward to the Garmin & Wahoo comparison!

This is quality chat

730 calories for Remco in ITT 729 calories for Pogi. Remco lighter and most experts would say slightly more aero than Tadej…. So not entirely sure the Strava algorithm is correct. It’s exacerbating the efficiency of Pogacar. He should have put out more than Remco today…,

I like this show. Johann knows modern cycling unlike Lance who is clueless and adds zero insight when he talks.

Team Bus Dynamics. Such an interesting topic and I really enjoy when Johan speculates as to what ‘could’ really be going on. That said, I would love it if Johan could share a few stories from the Astana days when he was dealing with both Alberto ‘El Pistolero’ Contador and Lance. I’m sure the bus was not big enough.

Fully agree that while Jonas typically gets stronger as a three week race unfolds but given his recent severe injury it is possible he fades in the third week

Litespeed Blade, re-badged as a Trek in the 1999 Tour. Is the answer to the one trick question at the end.

I’m not sure if there isn’t 5 riders with a better career than Remco has so far. Tadej and Cavendish are definitely ahead. Since Sagan hasn’t technically retired yet you have to put him above Remco as well. And then there are arguments for Van Der Poel, Alaphillipe and Wout. I’d probably put him 6th as of now ahead of Wout. Next year when Sagan and Cav are gone he will be top 5 for sure.

The calorie data is almost meaningless since they all hide power data. Its stravas algo calculating it not garmin or wahoo.

Today's TT calorie burn is identical for both Tadej and Remco. It is also pretty close to Campenaerts, all in the 730 calorie range. So I don't think there is too much of a difference.

Congrats for your show, you guys give the important issues and stuff that really matters, one question for Johan Bruynel ,the performance of Nils Pollit in the ITT was very good, now due to the work he must do in the next 2 days why he tried so hard to make a good ITT ,when he should had a day without to much effort?

Litespeed Blade (re -branded as Trek)!

3 of the 4 are still riding themselves into top form

Why would Jorgenson give it his all in the TT, when he should have saved energy for his duties in the mountains for Jonas?

The Hawthorne experiment, showed that the mere prodding around added to the placebo effect. Someone was present talking about improving and the ladies performed better in the factory. Here the cyclists are testing this and that while they put in the hours. If they put in more and better hours because they want to live up to the gear potential you get better results up to the ultimate bodily fluids of each rider: VO2-max x power x heart rate x placebo/hawthorne x gear efficiency x team efficiency x context efficiency* * Vingegaard using UAE as help riders, Pogacar on low power in the middle the peloton.

Any chance there may be in the works, some JB2 T’s with some words of wisdom from the man Johan?? Keep this happening JB… we need your fix each stage bro.

Surely the devices calculate energy expenditure based on kilojoules from power data? And the equation is the same regardless of what device is used. I can understand the possible inaccuracies from using HR

What changed JB´s assessment of Remco´s chances? His TT win was a given , so why raise expectations?

how many more victories he could have had w/o his big injuries

Remco needs to prove himself in the mountains. Period. If he can do that I’ll start believing. If he shows improvement in this Tour he will make a believer in me.

Hi, is it OK to ask a question for this excellent show for tomorrow? How many riders usually go for GC each year? 30? 40? Is everyone else domestiques / sprinters / classic style riders that go for stage wins? Thanks (Steve, UK) You said that 20% of riders go for the TT. I guess that's the answer?

From now on, we should official stop asking about Jonas form. After 7 stages, he was clearly doing just fine. If Jonas ended winning TDF, VL will be hailed as the Genius because they can resurrect a rider from the dead 🤣🤣. LOL. But for some reason, I'm just waiting until the shoes drop. Either on Pogacar due to Giro fatique or Jonas due to lack of proper preparation. Which makes the 3rd week exciting! 🔥🔥 As far as UAE, they don't have a guy who can straighten them up. Nils Polit or Yates are still new riders. I think they need Majka. He has been with Tadej from the beginning. So he can smack around Ayuso to fall in line with the rest easily... LOL Remco? Well, so far he is emerging to be the contender after those two. But we shall see. Back to back multi high mountain stages week 3, that's his achilles heels. And Rogilc? yeah, I don't think he can complete his palmares. He is lucky if he can reach podium. Rumors said, that JV has been protecting Roglic from dropping the 1kg of his weight (Roglic always wants to drop a kilo). Looks like at Bora, he managed to do that. He looks super skinny now. Maybe that's why he is lacking? Loosing weight doesn't always mean you ride better either. It's funny, to see these three, then seeing Roglic .. he is now occupies the place of "Geraint Thomas." Can't challenge them, but he is there, there about.🤣🤣

Anyone notice all the JB's painted on the road today? it was greater than JB squared it was JB100

Anyone feel the body produces more of something in recovering that could explain Jonas's performance.

Remco had a 62 in front.

I’m so glad someone mentioned EF. I was watching at work so I thought at first I was just seeing the same breakaway. Because it couldn’t be possible a team is chasing down their own break. But they actually did it. This team is pointless and only gets attention from shitty nbc coverage because they have an American rider and American ds. On vaughters by the way, i don’t know the guy personally so I can’t speak to it like Johan but comes off as a pretentious douche every time I hear him speak.

come on Johan the only guy not doing his job is Ayuso, Almeida is doing the job and will do it until the end. Yates was asked why he had to pull sooner, he said that someone was missing.....Matxin when asked the same said that Yates had blown up.....what a shit show! Ayuso has done it before in other races...

Did Tadej wear a UAE or ASO suit for the TT?

Johan when you do your test you should also wear something like an Apple Watch. You’ll be surprised by the differences between all the algorithms.

How many wins does remco outside of the TT?,, he will drop off in the mountains with roglic,,, remco never wins the tour as long as pogie and Jonas are still around,,,

I wonder if Remco is on ketones???

Johan, what is your take on Jonas’ post TT interview when he was asked if his fitness level is increasing as the TDF progresses.

Remco is only about a year younger than Pogacar. Pog has WON 3 Grand Tours and 6 Monuments. Seems silly to talk about Remco. He just one more star eclipsed by the sun.

Remco was disappointed to see that Pogačar was only 12 seconds behind, nevertheless, he drove another great TT. He has an advantage over the others because he is aerodynamic on the bike, he figured out how to ride a bike with the head in a low position. Pog position on TT bike is great 1/3 of the time, the rest of the time was too open, aerodynamics is everything on TT! Jonas is at the same level as last year, Pogačar is on the higher level this is where the difference comes from, but this time Pog will not collapse in last week, Jonas should not count on that. Roglič was on 110% today, he is not at the top yet but he is coming, I see him in second place in Nice! The helmet is not a key, the head position is the key! The helmet of Remco it's like a brick and he is still the most aerodynamic of them all. Pog has stronger and faster legs than him, well balanced on the bike, stable, elegant, but he is still behind him. It's amazing how the most obvious thing is invisible to experts, if the front part of the racing car is lowered to the ground, then the bike rider's head and hands must also be as low as possible. Now the experts will say, how rider should see where he is riding if he has his head between his hands? The answer is with the help of a mirror! Developers are wandering in the fog, chasing their own tails because they don't know how to set the problem in a right way. The position of the hands and head together with the helmet must become one in the lowest possible position, that is the starting point, and during the course of the ride it is necessary to hold this position as long as possible, simple. Once you set the starting point, it is necessary to ask yourself how to solve the problems that arise. In this case the only problem is that the rider does not have a forward view to know where he is riding, so the simplest solution to this problem is to use the mirror mounted on bike or inside the helmet. The mirror is positioned 10 cm from the eyes and inclined in a way that you can see the road in front while looking backwards with your eyes! As I can see, the best helmet for this application is the helmet Ben Healy is using. He was fast today as long as the legs could last, and very aerodynamic with head aligned with the hands. For fraudsters who would like to patent this solution is to late, with this publication the solution is public and free for anyone to use. To expand the solution I can mention that mirror can be replaced with display, micro controller and camera electronic system, mouted inside the helmet or mounted on the bike. The only question is how the commission will react, and with what argument :) Se you in the douches

I see many people forgetting the hype about Remco when they are saying "oh, what a great career, meeting the expectations etc." I clearly remember that it was close to consensus that he was the greatest talent of all the riders, Pogacar included. I remember people saying: "Pogacar is great, but Remco is a level above." And now all this walking back...

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"I Expect to lose more time" after evary stage

It's Tour de France (short "e" in de) and not Tour des France (pronounced "day"). Stop the Bob Roll impersonations.

Everyone is on about a laying flat in a hospital for 12 days level 🤣🤣 How am i the only one who's seen enough already again?!

Lance didn't win anything

Sensational ride from Remco and I think we can definitely see the Giro reflected in Pogacar's legs... That said, his MJ defense was stellar and eliminating Remco in the high mountains will be priority 1AA for UAE, because he is faaar too dangerous to be in the MJ mix in Nice. And then there was Jonas Vingegaard. This man crashed in Spain on April 4, fracturing ribs, a collarbone and blowing a hole in his lung. Jonas was FLAT ON HIS BACK for 12 DAYS until April 16... Then Jonas had 21 MORE DAYS of gentle and calmly progressive indoor training and physio work and not permitted to ride outdoors until May 7th... And since he had to ease his way back into his normal training cadence, he probably was not back to full, World Tour professional training loads until say June 1... Which is super aggressive for a man coming back from an ICU stay and a popped lung... And here he is, 4-5 weeks later on July 5th losing 37 seconds to the current TT (and former RR) World Champ who is on MONSTER form... Say what you want about Remco, but that man sacrificed his national champs to train at altitude and has been focused on this stage for MONTHS and was training at the HIGHEST PROFESSIONAL LEVEL the entire time Jonas was injured... So Visma wants me to believe that Jonas can take a month **completely off the bike** and STILL be top 4 in a rolling non-mountain, high stakes TdF time trial after 4-6 weeks of training???? Meanwhile, last year Tadej misses what? 10 days of outdoor training time from his wrist injury, races a magnificent TT and Jonas smoked him by over a Minute... How stupid does Visma think we are??? There are only two options to describe this... Either Jonas has the ability to recover from life-threatening physical injury like Deadpool or Wolverine, giving him a capacity that we have never seen before in the history of cycling.... Or this is exactly what we have seen time and again in cycling. Visma is using some combination of TUEs, loopholes, grey areas, dicey rule application or some super sexy, super secret new-new-NEW performance enhancers... There is no other possible way that Jonas can make up for make up for 30-45+ days of LOST high level, professional grade racing and training from serious injury to be ready for the TdF... Last years TT from Jonas was questionable at best. This display is a complete joke... I applaud Visma for their ability to find ways to make Jonas perform at this level so quickly after such a devastating injury... I however do not believe ANYTHING That Jonas does in this race is legit... *It is entirely likely that He is on something that the others are not...* This absolutely ridiculous TT performance by Jonas speaks for itself...

Thanks again JBs Great show. As always very interesting and educational. Johan deserves wider exposure to reach more bike racing fans.