BREAKING NEWS! - EVGA will no longer do business with NVIDIA 

Time to to go intel gpus now I can't await for a 4080 equivalent of arc to happen amd is a console brand anyway they are gonna struggle against intel in the gpu market Be awesome to have a blue team only pc build that can do 4k at decent frame rates

amd is a very good brand still for the average gamer that values price to performance@@jonathanoxlade4252

@@jonathanoxlade4252that’s a weird take. Amd gpus have been competitive, and Intel with there insane marketing I’ll take my chances with amd.

​@@jonathanoxlade4252 "AMD is a console brand" Bro, you could just say you don't want AMD. You don't have to spout complete nonsense as your reason for it

i hope so. i informed the card fab dept head of the disgust with Nvidia and how A 4090 intel competitor would fly off the shelf especially if it was a bit cheaper lets PRAY! they see the fkn light

When dude had a dead card and ended up loving the company, you know they do it right.

I had the opposite. Returned my new 1060 within warranty after it randomly died. Returned without repair or replace because they said it smelled like cigarette smoke. Not even a smoker. Refuse to buy EVGA brand products since.

@@Magnum062 Nice story.

I don't blame him. EVGA is a pleasure to work with. I don't currently own an EVGA graphics card but I do own other stuff but when I had a 970 I had problems twice and both times EVGA was tentative and understanding. Their communication is great and on point and every time I needed help, graphics card or other they always helped.

I can relate,top notch service

Wow outside of warranty? That's pretty excellent support, I must say.

They are all the same IMO . only shape and RPG is different. I always buy the cheapest , owning Gigabyte right now and it's fine

Mind if I ask what time frame this is? I was burned so hard by their RMA program ~2008. I hope they're much much better now, but I haven't bought an EVGA product since my abysmal experience with them.

@@Carpythesharky i think it was around 2 years ago this happened? Give or take a bit but certainly more recent than that. I have had several cards and PSUs since and its been smooth sailing.

@@samgregg Nice good to know. I will explore a bit more. Glad everything is working out great.

I literally feel the same way. I was really thinking about my next card EVGA cause I’ve had such a good experience with them.

I won't give a damn if nVidia ever goes out of business, those greedy a*holes.

This is the same feeling that I had back in the day when BFG went out of business. I still have some of the merch.

@@ka0skontrol504 I don’t really have an opinion either way about evga but I do remember when 3dfx went under and voodoo cards went away, that was sad. I also missed Diamond TNT cards as well.

@@TheCrimsonOwl you can still get one and use it like always…it’s just that they are not going to manufacture moving forward….. you are going to get full support for everything on the current ones

I'm expecting them to end up partnering with amd in the near future. I can't see them giving up in the GPU space completely.

LOL... yeah they had to get rid of that *^%&$

@@positrack99 The 12Gb of vram means the 3060 can take on certain computational memory hungry tasks that none of the 8Gb cards can. Which is exactly what I bought it for, so I'm happy with the purchase.

he probably meant getting rid of *nvidia* :D

of course they wouldn't and that's a smart decision. Profit only people don't know shit about taking care of the company. They will just destroy everything through greed. It's been happening to many game company's and even businesses. yet here i am still not able to understand what makes idiot people like these still try their luck when they know greed doesn't get anything far

Capitalism is at fault with so many things in society. Replace or evolve that into everyone benefiting instead of a tiny minority of morbidly wealthy that pay people below them millions to spout their lies. We could already live in a world with no money, class or poverty but we don't because alot of us have grown up believing the opposite. We know free markets don't work and are controlled by the wealthy, we can't have modern kings and queens called ceos that effect the lives of so many at an instance with no remorse. People in the future will look back on our society like we do with the dark ages, as horror and disgust due to most of society having to work to live and survive because a tiny class of morbidly wealthy took too much profit they deemed fair and lived life to the fullest. Right wing economics since the 1980s have made this possible but Capitalism as a whole was never the answer even from 1932-1980 but it did work better for alot of society than it has since 1980 to today.

@@_spooT Agreed. You'd think people would learn from history, but nope.

​@@_spooT Because in the short term it does help them and their personal bottom line. People like that know what they're doing. They know those actions destroy a company, but it profits them, again personally in the short term when they get massive bonuses. They're like corporate pirates in a way. They move from company to company sinking it and looting it for whatever they can.

@@natefunk1 I know why they do it, and thank you for informing me, but still, even tho i know they exist, I just can't stand scummy people that exists in our world. If they were leaders of a country they'd have no problems throwing away the lives of their own people for their own personal gain. They're like trash that pollutes our species. Sometimes you just wish they'd be gone in a snap, but alas, we have to face reality

That is a ton of cards.

@@35mm21 If I bought by looks, I liked the Aorus the best which still costs 300 more than I paid for my FE that was paid for by a Zotac 2070 Super with a profit.

@D I made money getting my card. Where there is a will, there is a way. I didn't scalp GPU's either.

@@35mm21 How much support do you guys need? Is this a new user thing?

@@35mm21 I've never had trouble with any warranties though I haven't had to use them for computer parts. This makes me wonder why EVGA has so many customer service groupies. Are their cards so prone to breaking that people are relieved that they honor their warranty? I truly am perplexed, but maybe it is all the kids trying to make computers???? Overclockers lying? Miner's running them into the ground? Not dusting?? I just don't get it.

Very affordable? You got insane markup and price gouging mixed up with FAIR PRICES.

@@93ChayZfr, these Nvidia fans are goofy ash 😂

@@FLAMEalan Yeah thats right lol.

Highly agree. I had to use their customer support for a few various things and their response time and actual process in getting it resolved was very quick and super easy. I have also used their Step-Up program before to upgrade my 3070Ti, and it took a total of 6 days from the time I shipped them my 3070Ti, to get my 3080, I was blown away! Such good customer service, as well as badass cards.

Literally the best customer support. I briefly mentioned I was looking at MSI's cards instead and they pretty much fucking vault tech rep'd me and sold me a $950 GPU for $725. And back during 2018 during the first crisis I got a 1070 ftw off them for $400 by contacting them directly. I am genuinely upset. Edit: I forgot they also sent me a Tshirt and one of their keyboards for free.

Was about to post exactly this.

I've never needed computer support in my life, and I realize that EVGA is just a custom hardware assembly company. It is no insult to your loyalty, but a general sign that pragmatism is often overlooked in the short term. I value the technology more than the brand.

Good for EVGA leaving this abusive relationship. This reflects really well on them. That's why Jay is saying it feels like a divorce; it literally is ending an abusive relationship. Stop supporting abusers!

I don't think Sapphire would like this idea.

Amd already has enough board partners I don’t think they need anymore for there market share.

it seems like they are pulling out of the GPU market altogether though

I hope so. Amd needs to really hit it out of the park with rdna 3 and start delivering 1080p capable apus.

@@ashc3765 probably not but this would be a huge pr win. Take all the things that made them leave nvidia and flip every one of them.

I disagree I think its a great thing for consumers to see an AIB finally take a stand against their shady business practices now both AMD and Nvidia know what can happen if they keep fucking around

@@vincentellsworth7905 I think they mean its sad to see EVGA forced into it, not that their action is sad

They had a program but it was hugely defective. I signed up for it and never heard back from them...to this day. Bought a 3080 from EVGA on my own a month ago.

@@vincentellsworth7905 NVidia does not give two shits what AIBs do. They're pulling an Apple and eventually will plan to make all their GPUs in house. EVGA saw the writing on the wall and dipped.

Lmao well good luck to Nvidia then. Until they get their own foundry not even apple is completely integrated

My 3080ti FTW3 just went up in price

It doesn't really take a genius to realise that customer retention is more valuable than replacing one graphics card. Shame they are gone.

Lol y’all act like Nvidia the only gpu manufacturer. Evga will still make partner cards with AMD and in the future intel as well I’m sure.

First Card 960? I get old 🙈

I have a similar story with my GPU as well. back in the day I had a triple SLI 780 setup, one of the cards died and EVGA helped out and got me a brand new GTX 970 since they didn't have any 780 laying around. The 970 Is still working hard for me and the other two 780 still work. Overall amazing customer service, I am planning on buying more of there products in the future

they been doing shit for years and morons keep buying there stuff so it will continue. Me im happy with my 6950xt tho i will be buying a 7950xt aswell same crap happened with xfx

😔❤

and from the other side: HAHAHAHAHAHA That's what you get EVGA. Ripping people off, selling in mass out the back door to crypto companies. People crying for EVGA and hating on NVIDIA because EVGA sold at 3x MSRP. Bye EVGA I hope you rot in he double hockey sticks forever.

This is what we're losing here, Grade A* customer support

I agree. I would almost straight but an EVGA 7800XT.

I can vouch for EVGA. I've been using them for years, especially their power supplies. Top notch customer support and power supplies. If your power supply fails and it's still under warranty they'll send you a brand new one.

Every EVGA card I have used has been fantastic. The only card manufacturer other than Sapphire for AMD I haven’t had an issue with. Their PSUs are also great.

Their power supplies are really reliable. I still have a 500watt power supply from my first build in late 2015 that it going strong after being used in multiple builds afterwards as well as a 650 watt from 2016. There are affordable and reliable.

I have a evga 1000w gold psu in my system that I've been using for 8+ years and it's rock solid. You won't be disappointed

I own a 3080 TI and a 1000 T2 PSU from EVGA. Their customer support is second to none. I really hope they can partner with AMD and compete with Sapphire.

Same, especially if AMD continues to improve their driver game or is more power efficient than nvidia.

@@DeilGrist To be honest i like the AMD drivers much more. And i had them all. And every GPU supplier has bad Drivers. Except Matrox. Those are perfect.

Facts, evga is legit one of the better brands of cards, matter of fact anything they put their name on.

I might actually/finally give AMD cards a chance if EVGA legit goes to them and AMD lets them mess with their cards as much as they want too. I don't understand why NVIDIA thought it was a good idea not for their GPU guys to make the cards better.

@@edenjung9816 Amd drivers run poorly on older games. Nvidia is overall more stable.

But there lies the Problem. EVGA Cards had Problems in several Generations. RMA and even Supportpackages like those Thermalpads cost Money.

​@@gucky4717 Well, if you don't know shit until release day, and only learn the edge-problems after it's in consumer hands.. (which are most of the times not even their fault..) that's indeed a problem. EVGA has done nothing other than trying to fix the shit that they're being thrown into; and have generations of good-will & quality products+support to speak for that. I really wish it didn't have to go this way, but choices have to be made; and the ROI of this stress isn't worth it imho either.

@@Xewl Others don't know shit either, but they didn't have such problems. EVGA is great for their customer support and their step up plans, but outside of USA, customer support isn't an issue since you don't deal with the manufacturer you deal with the shop, and warranty laws are strict. That being said, maybe I'm lucky, but I've been through about 20 GPUs in my life, and aside of one, they all worked flawlessly until I replaced them, but I've been dealing with dead motherboards a lot, and I just return them to the shop, tell them the problem, and I get a new board instantly or money back if the board is no longer manufactured/ or currently unavailable, or they offer me a similarly priced board. Not once did the shop I buy from; Local shops, Amazon, Yodobashi, Saturn, complicate my warranty. If the shop does no want to honor the warranty, they can get into a lot of trouble in most places, to a point where they could even get shut down over a $800 graphics card.

@@kurosumomo you are not god do not think you every store will bow down to you. You are not invincible.

@@2buckgeo843 Why? Still works fine for me..

Me too. 4 comps built and have only used EVGA

They're not exactly going out of business just breaking with Nvidia

@@Coolpachito I'm aware. I think you missed the point.

@@Rillust Uh sure.

AMD already had its chance and ruined it. Their own type of dlss is not that great which is the reason, why nvidia still has a virtual benefit of 50% more performance with almost no quality loss. AMD also increases prices and their cards run hot and considering toms hardware benchmarks the energy consumption of amd gpus is still much higher. Amd's quality is also just way to bad. Every amd gpu i had in the past just burned after one year. They were all loud, hot and died. My nvidia cards all ran for several years no prob. Honestly, i don't trust amd anymore. I wish they could compete, but at the moment i don't want to buy any gpu. Neither from nvidia, nor from amd. With amd i have to buy a new card after 1-2 years because it will break and with nvidia i pay double the price. In a way they are still equal, even if amd's prices would be half the price of nvidia. That is the reason, why they cannot compete. They need a better Ai upscaler, less energy consumption, less heat, less noise and their cards must have a longer lifetime. But this won't happen i guess. Marketing says their new architecture design would be better than nvidia but i think this is just sht talk. There is no evidence, that their architecture is really better. It is just different and it is said to be more scalable. But i doubt nvidias chip design is not scalable. If amds design would be so much better, then why are their cards not performing better? Another issue is the raytracing api. For whatever reason nvidias raytracing performs MUCH better than amd's raytracer. I don't know why, i guess they are both just using the directx raytracing but maybe the graphics cards of nvidia translates the api better internally. I could imagine amd has a good chance on the low to mid price market. But if rtx4080 will be available and not too expensive, they won't stand a chance next year.

@@willembielefeld712 💀

EVGA themselves said they are done with GPUs, they have no plans of partnering with eighter AMD nor Intel to manufacture GPUs in the future.

The undermined LHR

@@willembielefeld712 Outlier - never had a single ad gpu break. However 2 nvidia gpus stopped working. I have had about 50 amd and 40 nvidia gpus. (i am bilding for friends and family)

Same. Honestly for me one of the downsides of Radeon was not having EVGA.

Facts always been

@@Interrobang212 agreed. Had the same problem with mobo going Ryzen

Steve did an interview with Evga's ceo as well and he said they are canceling the video card manufacturing as a whole. So sadly no AMD gpus.

@@w04h 0o oh no I thinking the same as scott.

get on board... pun intended...

@@w04h REALLY? Not even AMD? Sound like they're more in financial trouble tbh can't see AMD doing much wrong here.

EVGA running red cards would be acutally the turning point for me switching to team red in that regard aswell tbh

With all the competition, we are going to see an uptick in quality on all aspects. Perhaps EVGA is going to start working for intel. I dunno, but very possible. Probably the generation after this next one will be a crazy upgrade. That is if intel gains their stride and makes high end cards. I hope they don't steal the budget market, giving AMD and Nvidia unlimited headroom regarding pricing. I would be so disappointed lol

@@flexplodin Other videos are clearer on it, but EVGA's already decided it won't go to AMD or Intel and is ditching the GPU business entirely.

@@angrymokyuu9475 Crazy. The scalping really hurt these guys now that the market is flooded with cheap used cards. Thanks for the info!

Funny you mention backplates because my EVGA 3080 XC3 has a flimsy plastic backplate and the VRAM temps are bad.

Asus will maintain good quality

indeed, furthermore in my country EVGA and Gigabyte offer the cheaper models of basically any Nvidia GPU

@@cosminlesutan3574 agreed

@@cosminlesutan3574 they are one of the best most of the time, and their support is amazing, its a shame. but hopefully nvidias higher ups will get kicked in the balls this way

@UCvNgchhWmdeFgry3CqGZ8mw plenty of them in EU

@UCvNgchhWmdeFgry3CqGZ8mw Would be a shame if the US is a massive GPU market.

I 100 % agree

Agreed - this is terrible news. They are the only brand of graphics cards I’ve been using for the last 12 years in all my builds. Excellent build quality and support, and during the 3080 mess the only company that had a fair system to buy their cards at MSRP. This totally sucks

@@jjbbryan8795 A sad life is you reading through comments simply to berate someone for their preferences.

I think that the underlying fact that this highlights is that Nvidia doesn't *want* to work with AIB partners anymore. They want to vertically integrate and replace them.

@@hellraserfleshlight Simple, don't buy nVidia cards.

Similar to the literal middle finger of Linus Torvalds

Yeah I've been running EVGA products for well, decades, this news is like a dagger to the heart! I'm looking at you EVGA 1080 FTW3 Hybrid SLI setup that has gotten me through so much over the years, it was good while it lasted! I better find a EVGA 30 series card to get me through the next few years for my next build.

@@anydaynow01 I've had my heart set on the FTW 3070 black personally. Nice sweet spot between power, energy use, and cooling IMO. Although energy use gets severely relative given the inefficiencies/dollar per watt we're seeing in 20xxx and 30xx and now 40xx.

stuck (sticked is not any language)

Well not in the faces but a**

ethereum went proof of stake yesterday... gpu prices crashing by the second. But they wont make anyone else's cards and only talk about not doing 40 series?? no, this is a corporation protecting it's bottom dollar during a crash by laying off (or forcing them to quit) over 50% of their workforce while they RIDE OUT THE CRASH... how in the hell does no one else see this and why is everyone kissing EVGA's ass rn?? I have ONLY owned EVGA cards and own a 3090 ftw3, but I see this for what it is... a corporation being VERY sleazy. Why in the hell didn't the CEO do this on camera instead of behind a closed door?? because he is expecting backlash and came to GN to try and "ease the blow".. it's sleazy and its a TEXTBOOK corporation top brass decision. I bet the workers are finding this out at the same time we are....

@@earlsb23 got burned holding a ton of cards they can't offload...

????? this was not for their principles, employees, and customers

@@earlsb23 They were being undercut hard by Nvidia and were saying they were taking losses if there taking losses then there losing money fast wich means they STILL have to make lay offs. Either way people get fired when a product they have makes less a d less money cause ur partner keeps taking more and more of ur slice of the pie in that product. Eventually there's just no money in it anymore. It's a huge L no matter u stay with Nvidia or u decide to leave.

How have they stood with their customers? They were one of the first AIBs to hike their prices up because they saw demand outstrip supply. They fully took part in the price gouging of the last couple of years and profited heavily off of it. They're now complaining that they're feeling the aftereffects of the market correcting itself back to sane levels again. They rode the hype train and overpromised investors thinking that 2x+ MSRP was going to last a lot longer than it did and then the crypto mining bubble busted and inventory quadrupled nearly overnight tanking GPU prices. They were even able to complain to Nvidia to slow down release of new stock to help artificially keep prices higher than they should which in the end, is to help the AIBs and not Nvidia. Nvidia makes a set amount per unit and it's actually in their best interest to flood the market because of their per-unit price based on whatever contract they hold with their customer. Nvidia as a component supplier makes their profits by volume. While I'm not a fan of Nvidia or AMD, it doesn't mean I'm naive to think some other multi-billion-dollar corporation isn't mystically out to not enrich itself as well. All of the AIBs jumped on the price gouging hype train to record profits and are now taking a beating because the orders they put in during the shortage in light of the overpriced units has come in and is driving prices down due to a glut in new supply relative to what supplies were 2 years ago. They were even able to get their key supplier, Nvidia, to control and limit shipping to all other companies in order to keep prices somewhat up purely to their own benefit. People a week or two ago got pissed and Nvidia for saying that they were doing this instead of getting mad at the AIBs who all pushed Nvidia to do it to save their own asses. The AIBs can't just stop cold turkey to kill off supply because they'll just lose sales to another AIB who will refuse and will sell at a loss just to move stagnant inventory. Thus, they begged Nvidia to slow sales overall which forces all AIBs to lower production and so none of the others gets an advantage.

Same. Every build has been with EVGA GPUs. I now have no idea what my next build will be like.

r/ABoringDystopia is where we are headed to where graphics cards are concerned.

I used a card from saphire for 1w years. You can try them

EVGA wasn't even available in my country. You'll survive without it. Asus is a great choice. Never had a problem with Asus GPU. They are extremely popular and considered top tier GPU here in Europe with great resale value.

Try Powercolor or Sapphire. They're sort of like the EVGA of Radeon cards. Fuck Nvidia

According to GamersNexus, they won't be making any more graphics cards at all, no new deals with any other GPU manufacturers.

Sad.. because I would have loved to see an AMD and EVGA partnership.

EVGA says they're out of the GPU card market.

@@TheZumiezNation For now. Hopefully they reconsider. Would be a shame to not take advantage of EVGA's expertise. I havent heard AIBs complaining about AMDs treatment of them.

I wonder why they're not down for amd. As a Linux user I'd be ecstatic if they went amd.

My guess about why it's cheaper would be that other brands are pricing their GPUs at higher then MSRP prices, while EVGA stayed true to MSRP

@@lockkeylive prabably even one of the reasons why they are breaking their relationship, since Nvidia seemed to be harsh with EVGA.

Well they have to make cards so most likely they will do AMD's.

@@oceanbytez847 they said they won't partner with amd or Intel. They are leaving the gpu market completely

@@RJMStraya why would it?

All you need is Jensen's statement about partners, it says it all. Right after defending why they dont give out information to them, and saying how they like and want everything internalized. Jensen - "Why are these guys (board partners), making money when theyre not doing much? NVIDIA's problem is it doesnt control the supply chain like Apple does". They have a direction, and theyre heading toward that path full steam ahead.

No, not really.

Exactly. Jensen doesn’t see the work they do in designing/manufacturing boards, sourcing parts/materials, or in dealing with customers. They used to be allowed to innovate more but Nvidia and nvidia alone stopped that.

@@RJMStraya Why would it be EVGA's fault when Nvidia has a reputation of being hard to work with.

It is good news but what about us who are in a long warranty period? A little worried about that and (how many) they truly have for rma requests..

Agreed. I first discovered EVGA nearly 2 decades ago and they've always been top of the pick for all my builds. I had my first 1080 blow up on me a few years ago, and they got me a new one no problems (even though part of the fault was my own). They will be missed.

it's also a huge loss for EVGA too... Nvidia GPUs make up about 80% of EVGAs sales/profits. If they dont partner with AMD/Intel to make up the money lost, they're definitely gonna have to lay off a majority of their staff

@@rawkusrex revenue not profit. If someone sells apples and oranges for a dollar each, and sells 80 apples and 20 oranges for a hundred bucks, 80% revenue is going to be apples. But if the cost for selling apples is like 95cents and oranges is like 50 cents, you are looking at 4 dollar profits from apples, 10 dollars profits from oranges. Profit margins for gpus are a lot lower than other part of the business to the point where even though it is 80% of their revenue, it's definitely not 70-80% of their profits, especially considering from gamer's nexus' video on their profit margin, he quotes the profit margins of power supplies as multiples of gpu's

@@xeroze01 whatever you call it, it doesnt really matter. the point is that 80% of their business is GPUs. there is going to be massive layoffs

Glad the queue worked for you. It worked for me..eventually after the shortage ended. But I still respected their efforts and the fact they sold cards for MSRP while others were taking you to the bank.

I had a similar upgrade path, also never had an issue. This news is really surprising. It will be interesting to see where they go.

What basics? They had ridiculous model tiering as if they were Ford selling Mustangs. Just slap some badge on it and mark up.

Made the switch to Radeon 5 years ago. No regrets

Similar here. EVGA 460, 560ti (x2), 760ti (x2), 1080ti (Hydro Copper), and just ordered a 3080ti (Hydro Copper). Guess my next gen will be AMD.

Imagine a “EVGA Radeon RX 7900 XT Kingpin”

@@SuperYusha ultimate rasterisation, and second gen ray tracing, all with the snot overclocked out of it

sadly it doesn't seem likely as stated in the video. maybe something changes, but probably not.

Always had evga psus. Never had a fault with one yet

For PSU i'm, a Seasonic fan, but i had the pleasure to work with few from EVGA, and for me, they are the second best after Seasonic. These are the only 2 PSU brands that i'm considering.

been rocking the same evga psu for 8yrs now still running like a champ

@@kryss8667 then you'd be happy to know, EVGA just rebadge seasonic units ;)

EVGA would be a hell of a get for AMD. though AMD has some good partners in Sapphire and AS Rock.

Way better grab for Intel... just saying. Intel is new in the GPU market

I hate my amd card, the drivers suck

@@Uusedtoknowme yeah unfortunately I have heard others complain about AMD cards as well. I have a feeling that AMD is going to get a lot better in the future tho.

Same, might be the investment edge AMD needs for their cards and software. It is a pretty odd coincidence that this news came just after AM5 boards and Zen 4 dropped. Fingers crossed.

Not just overproduction, it sounds like other board Partners May jump ship too. It sounds like a lot of board partners are getting absolutely burned so hard on the 30 series they decided that the 40 series isn't worth the gamble because in video won't tell them the price prior to lunch, why would you take a gamble on something you don't know the price of. Especially an Electronics luxury good like a graphics card. I believe when the control freaks at Nvidia started taking over, that is when XFX exited Nvidia space.

This happened with 20 series too. Nvidia just allows its partners to lose tons of money towards the end of the generation.

Yes, but they cost really a lot

They literally have no choice. So they definitely will!

@@Mirrow24 That is kind of why it would be nice for them to expand the line up though. Currently they really only offer one high-end board and one halo tier XOC board (for each Intel and AMD).

@@Mirrow24 If they expand their lineup, they could produce motherboards that don't.

They should follow Asus's flagship ROG series and make like over the top Mobos I would def buy one.

the shit thing is that even if any company would have to choose to stay or leave Nvidia, in the end, Nvidia wins heavily. Because well now they can charge a crap tun more without any competition. dick move but business is business!

If they go AMD or Intel, they *could* face the same problem. HIS died after the first mining boom and it was pretty much in the same shoes as EVGA today.

@@Dakkidaze I hope that amd and Intel learn from Nvidia's mistakes because we're coming to a point in history where things will either turn very good or very bad for bigger companies. Right now, we're pushing hard and we shouldn't let up. When it comes to right to repair or competition, etc, things are getting better for the consumer.

@@LZeugirdor yeah that's the best outcome But business being business, AIC partners buy chips at high prices, they of course will lose money now selling at lower prices. The problem is that NV forbids them to sell at lower price for NV's own interests. I believe it will be better with AMD, but Intel, meh

I would be glad if EVGA works with Intel. AMD has a huge problem with drivers and support. EVGA is not a company that likes to deal with that.

@@hikarushindo9131 Yet Intel have had a reputation for cloggin the market with partners and stopping them from selling AMD systems in the past. So either way they would or could get screwed by them as well

Quality. Can't wait to see the new amd cards from them.

im not gonna be able to buy good gpus anymore i switched to evga for my 3090 recently and now its worthless if the gpu breaks im never gonna get a replacement so im screwed

@@billyhatcher643 ummmmm ok lol

Every card I've purchased in the demise of BFG has been EVGA. Very sad right now.

always hold best value

IMO sapphire is to AMD GPU's as EVGA is to Nvidia GPU's

EVGA recently has made AMD products in the past few years.

considering the other AIB partners are Gigabyte of Exploding PSU fame and MSI, which scalped their own GPU boards, it's not looking bright...

This scenario is awful for the consumer

@@Unobserved07 not if all of them go to AMD (or intel...) and then start making all their classic designs + having the freedom to make insane custom boards. I would happily pay more for a product that I know is pushing the limits & designed for the pure 'love of the sport'

I can only pray that EVGA got with AMD so I wouldn't have to deal with MSI garbage from them.

EVGA CEO said they were done with the GPU market for the time being. So no EVGA AMD video cards for the time being.

@@MIBxSpartan :(

AMD isn’t capable of doing shit with their cards lmfao

@@ruskimofia they have good gpu's though. It's just their Ray tracing

idk if it was a gpu or psu but it went out on my buddy and evga replaced (within warranty) the item and it was actually an upgrade from the last. that's why I bought the 20 series evga in '19

This seems to be the norm. However over a decade ago I was burned by their RMA program. They instructed me to return a mobo as they will cover the replacement. They received it, then tried to make me pay for it. It's recorded in the phone call that they would replace it free of charge (you can hear me say "really? free? absolutely free?" to make sure). They held onto the mobo and wouldn't return it until I paid full price for a new one. Haven't bought an EVGA product since.

Sapphire and EVGA have made the best looking cards ever in my opinion, clean and nice looking without looking like a racecar bed.

Oooo that would be sick af. I wanna see some EVGA made AMD cards!

they might join AMD.

Going AMD is the best option for them. Intel is either dead in the water or will not be competitive for a while.

no that's probably why EVGA left nVidia probably for that reason. well one of the many reasons.

@@ZackSNetwork wtf you just said? Intel is dead on the water? You must be on drugs

In which case, i will be buying amd cards. EVGA is the only reason I've stuck with nvidia cards this whole time

Id say yes,

I'm curious who else was there with Steve and Jay? Can't see any other videos.

You saw Steve? Cool. Did you get Bobs take? I love what Brian had to say. Almost as much as what Frank mentioned.

@@codycast Funny guy Xd

Once I started buying EVGA graphics, never stopped. I think my first EVGA was one GTX460, and it lasted until I got a GTX1050Ti. Yes, I'm weird this way - only change my graphics card when it stops working or can't run the games anymore. I really hope EVGA goes AMD. :D

@@sysbofh 8800GTS for me last was 3070 sad to see them go.

are you saying evga will make their own gpus? thats very very unlikely they are a company of like 280 and do not have anywhere the buying power needed or staffing to start producing chips them self. The amount of R&D expenses to get into gpu design let alone compete in it against amd and nvidia would be astronomical at this point.

@Zippy Dastrange the issue I see is I'd venture alot of the reason their psu's sells are ok is because of the people already their for gpus. their mobo sales and others dont account for much

Difference is beginning of Lamborghini actually was in a way simpler era and the fact he had the manufacturing capabilities to build said cars and connections to get them build. VS GPUs that cost literally 100 millions of dollars just for r&d and ofc let alone way more for manufacturing.

Yep, lots of dirty laundry being aired here. I think there's lots of popcorn being popped in the C-Suite offices of AMD.

nvidia is literally the premium player, no company that is sensible would leave them , those who did in the past got relegated to 3rd tier companies lol

@@najeebshah. so you're saying EVGA should just keep being abused and losing money? That's what it sounds like you're saying. As a business, THAT is the single dumbest thing you can do; EVGA, after explaining their reasons and looking at the market, HAD to do this and were the first major company to say "screw NVidia" and walk.

@@najeebshah. For now. The last 2 years Nvidia has made some very questionable business decisions.

@@najeebshah. If AMD were to pick them up that wouldn't be considered a "3rd tier company"

I agree. If there is anything that would get me to switch over to AMD, it would be an EVGA AMD card.

Why though? Outside of brand recognition XFX and Sapphire make the most high quality cards out there.

@@jakestocker4854 because evga good

@@klooger28 sure, but I don't think they're better than Sapphire or even most XFX cards. Probably wouldn't do nearly as much to swing sales as people think.

EVGA is a big player. If AMD doesn't pounce at the opportunity, it sounds like there won't be another.

@JayzTwoCents, the real question is if EVGA RTX cards will shoot up in value since they're bound to be discontinued no? 🤔🤔

Their RMA service was top notch for GPUs.

They're most likely going with AMD now. Nvidia had a bad reputation now.

Yeah the Asus cards were nice too, but if you wanted quality and good support EVGA was the best choice imo. Asus has a pretty meh customer service experience. EVGA on the other hand really gave a damn about customer relations... I'm really going to miss EVGA, I don't think anything like this has really happened since I started building PCs over twenty years ago. I'm sure similar things have occurred, but never with brands that I actually care about.

Im on my 4th EVGA GARD All the old cards are still working back to my gtx560 660 760 now 3060

Same! My 1080ti FTW3 was legit either mining or gaming 24/7 for the last 4 years straight. Impressive quality to say the least, it has without a doubt been the best value of any PC component I have ever owned.

Same same

You would think EVGA would seriously look at this (and maybe they are in discussions with AMD now) - I guess they needed to get a statement out addressing their lack of 4-series cards whether they are ready to announce working with AMD or not.

I liked their cards but I do not like all this Narcissism cra so I might want to switch to EVGA in the future.

According to gamersnexus (who was at this meeting also) they don't plan to partner with amd or intel. They are going to stop gpu business all together.

@@HasanAslan truly sad. I guess I'll just have to figure out what the amd equivalent aib is and go with them for the next GPU I buy

EVGA has officially stated that they will not pursue a partnership with AMD or Intel regarding GPU'S. Of course, that can change overnight.

Seeing as EVGA knew in April they were leaving the Nvidea partnership, I would think they would have reached out to AMD by now to start partnering. I think they are done with gpu's.

AMD already has Sapphire though. I think it would be more wise for EVGA to partner with Intel.

Thankfully XFX and Sapphire are already probably the best quality in terms of anyone else in the market.

AMD is not competent enough to grab more marketshare. They show it once again giving nVidia months to sell their 40 series.

EVGA has been very successful at building the brand and convincing people (rightfully so) that they were a top Nvidia AIB brand. Currently using an EVGA RTX 3060 XC in my main editing rig

Same, every Nvidia card I’ve ever owned has been EVGA. Started with a 9800GT years and years ago and have owned sooo many EVGA cards since then.

Evga =quality. I have had nothing but great experience with their Products. There must be a small margin of profit on gpus. The price must be high.

screw Nvidia. would be nice to see evga amd cards.

@@ChrisZukowski88 You forgot that nvidia encoder can handle 20 1080p transcodes (amd can do only 4) and a quality way higher than the amd at the same bitrate in real time

I am actually excited because that means they will be hyper focused on the product they build to make sure its performance and quality surpass their competitors. Not suprised once u hear nancy pelosi invests in a company to flip a quick buck only to see its bump in value was only temporary to the decline right after of thw stock

Same here. I find it odd I feel really sad about this lol. Evga, in my mind, makes the best cards on the market. Guess I won’t be getting a 4000 series. Luckily I was able to get my 3070 ftw3 early at launch.

Same here too was planning out to get rtx 40 series from evga😢 IF they ever get onboard to amd that would rly shake up the competitive prices. Really would hope EVGA would decide to be AIB partners to amd side next. Their OC card are incredible man.

What? I really like EVGA cards

EVGA makes the best graphics cards and noone comes close to their warranty and customer support.

In the GamersNexus video, the CEO mentioned they are not shifting to AMD or Intel. Pretty sure they are out of the card business as a whole :(

The CEO has said in interviews (according to Gamer's Nexus) that they have no desire to produce AMD nor Intel video cards.

Thats nothing, one time i was on a cruise and i fell overboard, luckily i had my trusty evga graphics card on me and i used it as a life raft. EVGA SAVED MY LIFE!

Sapphire is my go to AIB for AMD

Ok, well.. Go with a second rate card. I have a 6800XT, and ya.. Not happy.

If u don't stream that is fine but if u stream u need Nvidia as AMD encoder's are nonexistent to be honest

dont go amd. i have a 6900xt and regret it. constant driver crashes just like all their older products. im gonna sell this and go back to nvidia.

He comes across in a conversational manner to me which is a nice change from the norm. Something you can't manufacture.

oh man, that card has always been a scam. Some of them still run FERMI architecture.. they shouldn't even exist. I'm just glad you've upgraded since, because even having no graphics card is often better than a 730.

​@@BahhBahhBrownSheep Oh, that was about 8 years ago, I think. I didn't have much money back then and I was still learning. Current build has an RTX 3060 Ti.

@@brinmat My first GPU was a GT610, I feel you lol

I had to buy cheap gpu to continue working for the new pc and it was GT730 (but gddr5) lmao

EVGA is really one of nvidia's top partners... An AMD and/or Intel partnership would be huge for either or both companies.

I'm pretty sure AMD is almost the same in doing business, it's just how it is due to protection from leaks etc. Intel is already hated by many because of what they do do i don't think EVGA will ever go back to GPU market. If they wanted they would already did that. They will double down on PSU and accessories.

AMD will do the same thing. There is a reason EVGA said they will not continue to make GPUs with anyone's chips. The new AMD is not any better than nVidia or Intel at treating partners.

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agreed.. i think if enough of us do it nvidia will crawl back. because outside of a strix card there isnt a single other nvidia card i would own.

Throw your NVIDIA card in the trash and tell me where it's at

Let's not pretend that both aren't just corporate entities that exist to turn a profit. AMD would pull the same shit in a minute if they were on top and could get away with it. That's just how American companies do business. At the end of the day, the only truly moral option is not to support any company. Remember kids, there's no such thing as ethical consumption.

@@temp9988 Just threw mine in the trash, want the address here?

"wake up call about NVIDIA" - what does that even mean? The phrase is usually a "wake up call *for* NVIDIA" - but that's clearly bollocks

Why between NVIDIA and EVGA, EVGA makes NVDIA products, so technically you still buy NVIDIA products?? You high bruh?

nd RNDA3 looks well positioned to potentially give Nvidia a big whooping in power/performance ratio and cost this generation, Nvidia is playing with fire.

Send in Lisa Su, she can make the deal happen, EVGA could spice up the lineup & it would inspire the other amd gpu makers competitive drive in that innovative way too. Win/Win!

It looks like they only can buy assembly lines from EVGA.

Well obviously, evga mobos arent that popular if they cut ties with the gpu market as a whole they wouldn't survive

EVGA CEO said they are not interested with INTEL and AMD

@@nanezferrer3565 totally, but what if...

That was my first thought. EVGA leaving will probably be the start of Nvidia losing all their other partners.

Precisely. I've been debating about doing a complete system overhaul, and while I team green may have the better product currently, I won't spend my money with someone who behaves this way. I guess AMD for me! And I have a feeling I'm not going to be alone in that...

@@Lucifaar I have a feeling Nvidia is trying to go for the Apple model of complete vertical integration. When you look at it, they're very much alike, there's a reason they haven't played nice with each other. I hope EVGA finds a way to work with AMD beyond just motherboards, an EVGA RDNA3 or 4 GPU would be awesome.

Diamond Monster 3dfx ! Voodoo graphics lol! yeah, 3dfx went down quickly. This makes Nvidia look very very bad. I'm not camp anyone but have bought more Nvidia vs Amd over the years. Now, hmm. I certainly wouldn't be buying Nvidia stocks right now.

True, Nvidia is not the first one to sit on the top of the graphics card market, only to throw it away for greed.

Every time I go shopping for a PSU, I say to myself or to the person I'm building for--multiple times--that I trust EVGA with my life

@@renatatostada3318 Same here. First EVGA PSU I bought was a G2 1300W, which was massively overkill for what I needed, but it's been going strong with the friend I sold it to, mining at almost full capacity for the last 2.5 years (I bought it in 2015, so it's not new) without breaking a sweat. For my current system I went with a more sane G3 850W, again EVGA. And let me tell you, I've pushed my 5900X to use up to 210W of power (I settled on 180 due to thermals) and my 6900XT to 400W. I've seen people with similar systems tripping OCP and stuff on other brands' 1000W PSUs, but mine has never even flinched. I've measured a peak of >800W from the wall, and it still never gave me any problems. For PSUs I always suggest either EVGA or Seasonic (Seasonic is the GOAT, but they are pricey) to friends or family that ask me what to get. That said, my dad got a Be Quiet 550W and it seems like a solid unit, so they're probably good too.

They will do AMD it's just Nvidia.

Got the supernova gold 750 watt PS from them. Still churning along 6 years later

@@Moody_Incorporated "will still"? Evga has never sold AMD graphics cards, they've always been Nvidia exclusive.

AMD CPUs have been good for gaming since the Ryzen 2000 and 3000 series. Ryzen 2000 was a bit below Intel in gaming, Ryzen 3000 was roughly the same as Intel, and the newest Ryzen 5000 series basically beat Intel in gaming back when it released and was way more power efficient too.

@@ConsiderFirstCnE they've been good for gaming. I have a 3700x and it's still holding up just fine.

ngl, if it wasnt the fact that DLSS and ray tracing seem like good tech for future GPU, I would personally like AMD as they give good performance for a good price

Almost the same. Every card since the 8800GTS back in 2008 has been an EVGA card for me. I only buy NVidia. What pisses me off here is I'm an Elite EVGA member. I was hoping to get the 4080/4090 using my EVGA Elite membership to jump in the front of the line. That's all gone now. Fuck.

@@ConsiderFirstCnE Ryzen has been good for gaming for a couple generations now.

Same here! Still have my 9800 GTX+