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Common PC mistakes to avoid! 

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There are a lot of new folks joining the world of gaming PCs... try not to perform these mistakes when building your computer!
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@dylswerb7492
@dylswerb7492 Год назад
I know I already built my computer almost last year at this point, but I always watch these videos regardless because I'm super paranoid that I messed something up
@stevenb891
@stevenb891 Год назад
Cant hurt to get a refresher, especially with all the changes lately
@whatif8741
@whatif8741 Год назад
Same 😆
@grumpyratt2163
@grumpyratt2163 Год назад
Dude ive built 6 computer this yeah. and yet i made a rookie error last week when upgrading my daughter's aio. Yes i forgot to take the protective peel off the pump block.
@Jason_Bover9000
@Jason_Bover9000 Год назад
Same
@stevenhenson4956
@stevenhenson4956 Год назад
Forgot to take the film off my gpu and i messed up the first time mounting my cpu cooler was my screw ups first time builder too
@DeepCovere
@DeepCovere Год назад
After building my first PC this past summer, the best advise I have for beginners is to TAKE YOUR TIME. I know it's exciting to see all your parts sprawled out on the table, and you can't wait to play those AAA titles at Ultra settings. However, going slow and doing it right the first time will save a lot of headaches down the road if you need to troubleshoot. If you get stuck, watch youtube vids, read the manuals, ask a friend that's built a PC before, and if you're still frustrated, take a break and come back. My first build took me 8 hours. Nothing worse than rushing through the build and potentially messing up components and ruining your day. The build is the fun part, enjoy it!
@alen7492
@alen7492 Год назад
Yes man! PC building demands patience. You just need to remind yourself how you will enjoying it for years after. Painfully slow but worthwhile.
@Robonord427
@Robonord427 Год назад
100% yes! And don't forget that when you've finishing building and manage to get it to boot, you've only just got started. Testing is required.
@FilthyCasual268
@FilthyCasual268 Год назад
I built my current system back in 2020, which was my first, and it took me around 8 hours as well. Since then, I've completely disassembled, deep cleaned, and reassembled it twice, but it only took me around 3 hours each time. You for sure wanna take your time the first time around (and all the time honestly), but it's definitely an empowering feeling working on PCs when you start to feel confident in what you're doing! :D
@bocahdongo7769
@bocahdongo7769 Год назад
That's also the reason people don't like to build PC. Yeah, it sounds easy as just "big man lego", but the amount of unwritten rule that never on the manual book is actually that many. And some of them are make-or-break. And if that happen, those many PC Master Race would call you bollocky idiot for not knowing those unwritten rule, and doesn't help the situation. Not all people have time or need to learn every single one of them anyway. For those of them, I'll suggest you guys consult to any of trusted people. And when you start to build it, leave it to better person also (and don't forget to give them enough money, since you basically saved much from prebuild)
@FreshPrince4911
@FreshPrince4911 Год назад
Very sound advice 👌🏿
@Zejjnt
@Zejjnt 11 месяцев назад
Top 1 tip: don't let the damn M.2 screw out of your sight
@spellcrafter23
@spellcrafter23 Год назад
First step. Visual inspection before you even start the build. This allows you to spot any glaring defects and or damage from shipping before you even start building. Also to reiterate the importance of the brass standoffs. Don't just use the ones on the corners. Boards will flex if there's not enough support. Components (ie heavy GPU card) can cause the board to flex and possibly short out on the case. If there's a hole in the motherboard, and corresponding spot on the backplate in the case, use it!!
@ahernandez4695
@ahernandez4695 6 месяцев назад
My motherboard has stand off holes is that bad ?
@spellcrafter23
@spellcrafter23 6 месяцев назад
@@ahernandez4695 depends. Is there a spot in the case to secure it? If so, yes. That's a mounting point you could use the better secure the motherboard in the case. Think of it as mounting a TV on the wall. You're not going to just use 2 screws and call it good enough, are you?
@blobfish86
@blobfish86 5 месяцев назад
Uhm, I think that's exactly the kind of problem that ruined my last pc, I had a pretty heavy graphic card and after a few months my mother board started failing, now that you mentioned it, I guess maybe the weight of the gpu bent the mobo and broke something
@qiddas
@qiddas 5 месяцев назад
thats what she said.
@SergeyVolkov
@SergeyVolkov 4 месяца назад
@@blobfish86 there are cheap solutions to support the GPU weight, they are called "Graphics Card Support" or something like that. Even 3d printed plastic support will do :D
@fragehardt
@fragehardt Год назад
One beginner mistake I've seen made at times is that sometimes people will assume if a power supply is modular that they can simply mix and match cables from any PSU, and this can easily lead to fried components and a really really bad day. Always *ensure* that the cables you're using are for 100% sure compatible with your specific PSU (not even just the manufacturer, I mean the specific model).
@annieworroll4373
@annieworroll4373 Год назад
The old days of AT power supplies letting you plug the motherboard in wrong. Keyed to get them oriented correctly, but not placed correctly on the header. There were multiple ways you could do that wrong and blow up your motherboard.
@QuackZack
@QuackZack Год назад
You can use modular PSU cables from other manufacturers but generally shouldn't unless you're 100% confident the pinouts are the same. Even if the cable fits on the PSU end, doesn't mean it's compatible. I used EVGA cables on a Corsair supply but I triple checked if the pinouts were the same.
@genericscottishchannel1603
@genericscottishchannel1603 Год назад
very cringe
@XRaiderV1
@XRaiderV1 Год назад
bitwit's fixed/done a few psu's like this...including one that literally saw him jump three feet in the air(psu let go with a gunshot like noise)
@markg2051
@markg2051 Год назад
@@annieworroll4373 LOL I have been there and done that once.
@dandmwg
@dandmwg Год назад
A friend of mine asked me to look at his PC as he was getting idle temps of around 60c which even for a Ryzen 9 5950x is hot. I took the CPU cooler off and he'd forgotten to take the plastic cover off the cooler. I laughed, called him a noob in my head, cleaned the thermal paste, put the cooler back on and booted up the system. 62c idle... wtf... Done the same again to see what the problem was. I'd forgotten to take the plastic cover off the cooler. I never told him but it happens to the best of us
@mekko9312
@mekko9312 5 месяцев назад
How do you forget to take it off even after you clean the thermal paste and apply a new layer? I'm looking forward to building my first PC and I'm sure it's not THAT easy to forget to remove it, is it?
@YonjiBajonji
@YonjiBajonji Месяц назад
😂🤣😂
@jramos2392
@jramos2392 27 дней назад
Lmao no way.!!
@Aracore
@Aracore Год назад
don't forget to cover the importance of stand-outs. Very first build i ever did, years ago onw. I had no idea what those little brass posty things were for, and nothing explained them to me, so... I left them off, which meant that as soon as I powered up, I shorted out the ENTIRE motherboard (much blue smoke) in one easy lesson. DEM LITTLE BRASS THINGIES ARE IMPORTANT!!!
@charmzee8749
@charmzee8749 Год назад
I almost did the same thing with my current build in 2018, luckily i was like "Why not? There's a reason everyone uses those" Glad i did cuz shortly after i saw a video about this issue and i was like "glad i added those".
@xaenon
@xaenon Год назад
When I ran a shop in SE Indiana, a novice 'DIY' fellow hauled in the PC he had just built himself. No signs of life at all. He'd reseated all components. He'd swapped the RAM modules. He'd double checked all connections. He'd made sure the switch on the PSU was set for the proper line voltage. Nothing. Fortunately for him, it was a slow day at the shop and I could crack it open and take a look at it right away. I spotted the problem in like four seconds. His brand spankin' new motherboard had come packed with that pink protective foam rubber. Which he thought was an insulator and had installed between the motherboard and mobo plate. The pink protective foam rubber pad that was made specifically to protect the motherboard from ESD damage, and was actually conductive. His whole computer was a giant short circuit. He was quite fortunate, however - though a bit embarrassed. It was not a dead short. All we had to do is pull it apart, remove the pad, and reinstall everything. Took about 10, 15 minutes, maybe. He hit the switch and it whirred to life. We were all new at this once. Remember that.
@adamhearts9195
@adamhearts9195 Год назад
what is a stand out,, I've never even heard of it. 😢 just finished my first computer build
@johnhpalmer6098
@johnhpalmer6098 Год назад
@@adamhearts9195 Unless you are joking, I'll explain, those little brass screws with threads on the top, those are the standoffs, and they are designed to hold the MB OFF the MB plate in your case, or you will likely short out the MB.
@PapagenoX09
@PapagenoX09 Год назад
Isn't the normal term for them "stand-offs"? They're the tall narrow hex-nut thingies that you screw onto your case's backplate, then line up the motherboard holes with them and screw it into place.
@VeggyZ
@VeggyZ 8 месяцев назад
SSDs and HDDs both have their place. HDDs for the storage size - so long as they're internal and they're powered up occasionally to avoid bit rot, old style HDDs are great. NOT good for a windows drive - anyone using an HDD for windows at this point NEEDS to try it on even a standard SS, because they don't know what they's missing.
@jeezuschryst
@jeezuschryst 14 дней назад
I'm building a new computer for the first time in 14 years and am FINALLY switching to SSDs.. haven't used one yet. I got myself a 4TB WD sn850x nvme. I'm sure I'll be blown away at the change!
@Balrog132
@Balrog132 Год назад
Hot tip: If you are using an air cooler, in most cases it is better to fully assemble the mainboard with the cooler outside of the case. This is especially important with double tower coolers, where you put a fan in the middle and have those stupid wires to mound the fan to the finstack. Bonus: If you have a modular power supply, also connect the CPU power cable(s) before finally putting the board in. Thank me later.
@daviniarobbins9298
@daviniarobbins9298 Год назад
Speaking of air coolers(those big ones) always measure your case just to make sure it will fit inside. Nothing worse than having fitted an air cooler in your case only to realise you can't fit your side panel back on. I haven't personally made that mistake but I bet quite a few watching these videos have.
@andrelisboa7193
@andrelisboa7193 Год назад
thnks
@NikitaDarkstar
@NikitaDarkstar Год назад
I did not have a good time when my AIO on my old system died and I decided to switch to a Noctua DH-15. When it came time to replace that whole system that beast when on the m,obo before anything went in the case. Still lost some blood to it.
@BaieDesBaies
@BaieDesBaies 5 месяцев назад
I did that the first time and my air cooler is so big i could not mount anything after it was in, so i just installed it just before the GPU.
@Rippedyanu1
@Rippedyanu1 Год назад
Honorable mention is make sure your case has room to work in if you're a beginner. Not having some cable slots in certain spots or the inner area being too cramped can be a bastard to deal with. Also wire up your fans LAST. Fans should almost always be the last thing you put into your computer so that you can easily access the EPS cable port on the motherboard for your CPU as well as managing the unholy amount of cables you have with fans, especially if they're the non-direct daisy chain RGB fans.
@thundercat_pumyra
@thundercat_pumyra Год назад
I made that mistake with my first computer build. Even now that I know what I'm doing, I will never work on a case that's cramped because of that. I will always check every bit of info available just to see what the cable management is like because I've bought cases that were large, but had absolutely no cable management/storage spots. Like an inch between HDDs to route cables, and that was it. Trying to route a 24 pin motherboard cable *and* 3 PCIe cables for the graphics card? Not going to happen. Getting just one PCIe cable through there was a bitch. Had to route cables through the stupidest places leaving a tangled mess in the front of the case with a nice window to see it all.
@robertbenoit5374
@robertbenoit5374 Год назад
Actually installation of the fan depends on several things. Are you building a tower with plenty of space or a desktop with very little space. my last build was a Desktop. I haven't built one in several years so it was a bit Challenging to say the least and me personally I prefer towers due to the fact that my hands are huge. However, with the lack of space I was required to install everything and then slide it very carefully into the desktop case and then very carefully hook up the wires to the front panel and the power supply. It turned on and booted with no problem. The system has been running for a business since August 2022 with no issues so I would say I did an excellent job.
@georgeerhard1949
@georgeerhard1949 8 месяцев назад
I will mount the fans, but route all of the cables to the back of the case, and then velcro them together. Same with aRGB cables and the like. It also helps to assemble the motherboard as much as you can out of the case (NVMe's especially) and then slide it all in. Another tip Jay's pointed out with modular power supplies: run the cables from the board/components to the P/S, not the other way around. That way you can get the cable management done as you're putting things in, not trying to stuff cables through holes and try to plug them in with no working room. Another thing you can do, if you're actually not using drive bays for older style drives, is remove the brackets for them. A drive bay with no brackets becomes a great place to stuff cable slack (like that 4-connector SATA cable you only needed 1 SATA tap off of). Smaller SATA brackets can be used as cable guides, if you don't outright remove them to get more room.
@alexmentink8567
@alexmentink8567 Год назад
One major building mistake to make is ram clearance with a cpu cooler. I recently built a computer for a coworker and the radiator barely allows the clearance for the memory modules. We got lucky that things could be built easy enough but there were only a couple millimeters of clearance after everything was installed. Make sure to check the heights of ram clearance when you're looking for a cpu cooler, especially for air coolers and top mounted radiators.
@RedVRCC
@RedVRCC 13 дней назад
Good point, I almost had this issue myself with a huge chonker of a cooler I got. The RAM barely was able to squeeze in there.
@MarkJacksonGaming
@MarkJacksonGaming Год назад
-- TIP: ALWAYS CHECK THE LOCATION/COUNT OF YOUR MOTHERBOARD RISERS. Make sure those risers (for the screws that mount your motherboard to the case) are in the CORRECT position, and they're the correct number of them. You risk grounding your motherboard if just one is out of place, or you have, example: a board that needs 9 risers, but there's 10 installed on the case. That 10th one doesn't belong, and could ground the board. Do a test install of the board only, don't hook anything up. Make sure you have all and only the risers lining up with the mobo holes perfectly. This happened to me with an old PIII rig decades ago. Ended up shipping the mobo back to Thompsons Computer Warehouse in FLA twice before I realized it the mobo tray had one extra riser installed.
@variablenine
@variablenine 11 месяцев назад
I'm new to this and still in the process of researching parts, in this situation would you just file down the extra riser or is that a bad idea
@CompressorMango
@CompressorMango 10 месяцев назад
Back when I was a wee-lad I told a friend they could build their own pc, it was easy. After putting it all together it wouldn’t turn on. Turns out he did not install any standoffs. Your comment brought that memory to the forefront of my mind. 😂
@chrissyboy7047
@chrissyboy7047 8 месяцев назад
​@@variablenineits probably too late now anyway but you would just unscrew the riser from the motherboard tray. No need for filing
@georgeerhard1949
@georgeerhard1949 8 месяцев назад
@@variablenine Most times the "riser" is just a divot to mount a standoff post (a hexagonal part with a threaded screw on one end and a hole for a screw on the other.) I would NOT mount a motherboard to the case directly, that's what standoffs are for!
@bloocheez3
@bloocheez3 Год назад
Two years ago it was videos like this that allowed me to build my first system. I honest to god went from not even knowing what the current parts were called to having two full builds under my belt. I'm grateful for Jay and a few other tech-tubers for being so good at putting together videos like this that teach so well.
@mixification
@mixification Год назад
For the beginner builders out there make sure you put your IO shield in before the motherboard. It's not so much of a problem nowadays since some motherboards have it preinstalled but the budget motherboards won't and there's nothing worse than finishing your build to realise you've forgotten the IO shield. Also check your case measurements with your component measurements so you don't run into an AIO radiator not fitting or GPU not fitting because the case doesn't support certain clearances and then having to delay your build waiting for different components or case.
@Chriss4123
@Chriss4123 Год назад
If you forget to install your IO panel it’s no big deal. It was meant to block out EMI but nowadays with all these acrylic side panels blocking off that tiny space is gonna do nothing in the grand scheme of things.
@zdspider6778
@zdspider6778 Год назад
Ha, I just commented about this. Glad I'm not the only one who messed it up at least once. @@Chriss4123 Dust. Insects. If it's next to a window, maybe even pollen or floating dandelion puffs, leaves. You don't know. It offers at least a little bit of protection. And blocks off 0.001% of the sound. I think it's still better to have it installed than not.
@i_am_macgyver84
@i_am_macgyver84 Год назад
I built my first PC in 1997 at 13. I've only ever bought one "custom" built desktop which was a dell dimension 8200 in 2002. Besides that I've put together all my desktops. My latest gaming computer was the first with the case that had the hidden area for the PSU and side panel for the wiring. The cutout wasn't large enough to route the 8pin cpu connector through with the board screwed down. Also I couldn't get the AIO radiator in after the MOBO was in place. Other than that, with have 2 NVME slots on the mobo. it was the cleanest build I ever did.
@Chriss4123
@Chriss4123 Год назад
@@zdspider6778 you didn’t forget about the 1 if not 2 if not 3 fans at the front pulling in more air per second than an open IO shield will in a day? When your consider how many intake fans there are on the average PC the IO shield becomes pretty much negligent. Sure it may contribute to a minuscule amount of particulates but overall in the grand scheme of things it contributes to basically nothing. What I’m saying is if you forgot to put it in don’t take out your whole motherboard to put it in. I only use IO shield for the looks and nothing else because it gives nothing else. Sorry if this comment came off condescending or rude, I did not want it to be looked at that way.
@zdspider6778
@zdspider6778 Год назад
@@Chriss4123 I have zero fans on the front of my PC case. Come to think of it, I have negative pressure inside it, so I should probably mount one. It came with a broken connector so I never installed it. It's been running fine for 6 years. I clean it once a year or so. The dust filters become clogged up pretty badly, but inside is not that bad.
@iElite6809
@iElite6809 Год назад
I used to watch your videos around 2015 when I was building my first gaming computer, before I went to study at university, when the debate was around the GTX 970 vs R9 390. That computer lasted me 7 years until a month ago. I have long since graduated/started working now, and I don't play games any more, but I still come back and watch your videos just because your content is great to keep up to date with the latest in tech hardware. Thanks for your content!
@edengaming5021
@edengaming5021 Год назад
Just curious, what do you do, now that you arent into games? Ive never grown out of them, and am an old man. But, I wonder just what other people do to occupy thier time out of work?
@user-gz4ve8mw9l
@user-gz4ve8mw9l Год назад
@@edengaming5021 Some people move on due to them being so time and money consuming. One person I know learns new skills each year instead. While writing poetry learning a new musical instrument every 4-5 years. Alongside investing the difference and spending more time reading for recreation. I for one have no plans to move on personally. However I have reduced the amount of time I spend gaming. As well as limiting new games to 1-5 a year. Which will be reduced to 1-2 games every 2-3 years soon. I'll only be upgrading my desktop twice more. Only getting a new laptop 2 more times in my life at most.
@rknine7998
@rknine7998 5 месяцев назад
I remember the GTX 970 from 2014!
@alexwu8077
@alexwu8077 4 месяца назад
Man I feel old, I had a pair of HD5850s and an X6 Phenom II at 4ghz back in the day. That rig was installed in an Antec One Hundred. I was so proud of it back then, and tbf it lasted over a decade with no upgrades. Now I’ve moved onto a 5800x3d + 3070 combo cooled by a distro plate hard tube loop. How things change. I’m never giving up this hobby, I love it. I may be too old for it at 26 but I love it anyway.
@TheTrueOSSS
@TheTrueOSSS 8 месяцев назад
Hands down most humiliating mistake I've made is springing for ram without double checking the QVL. I had to down clock and boot train until I could afford the time and money to fix it. Always check if your parts will match, especially if you are on a budget!
@erichagen3617
@erichagen3617 Год назад
I have done 3 builds since august, one for my father in law, one for my 16 year old, and one for me. I still watch Jay’s videos because I love his content.
@Fossillarson
@Fossillarson Год назад
I've built two in past year lol. Yes J keeps us up to date and fresh news :)
@opiumextract2934
@opiumextract2934 Год назад
Does your father in law play games or anything? My father in law is 70 and he hopped on my PC a while back and played American truck simulator with the wheel and pedals and shifter. Dude legitimately had a huge smile on his face.
@erichagen3617
@erichagen3617 Год назад
@@opiumextract2934 mine is like 60. He plays world of Warcraft. I got him from 15 FPS and crashing to about 165 FPS at 1440p with a G-synch 144hz monitor. Intel 12600k, lian li cool mesh 2, Corsair 240mm aio, 32 GB’s of 3200 DDR4 Corsair dominator, RTX 3070, 2TB SSD crucial P3 plus. It was heart warming to give an old guy joy again. It warms my heart that you got to do that for your father in law.
@Manusia.satu1
@Manusia.satu1 Год назад
@@erichagen3617 Good man
@murrys5444
@murrys5444 Год назад
My top tip is don't use zip ties. Instead use Hook and Loop strips (aka, Velcro). They can be a lot easier to remove if needed. You can't go "too tight", which can damage cables. Plus they are a lot easier to remove rather than having to cut them out, which has the risk of accidentally cutting the cable within. I've seen more cases now have cable management channels with slots intended for Velcro strips rather than zip ties. The case I have even came with some Velcro strips pre-installed.
@razvann6907
@razvann6907 Год назад
I prefer using zip ties, however, until I am absolutely sure I'm done and about to close the case, I leave the zip ties so loose that I can pass an 8 pin PCIe power cable through them and, when I finally tighten them up, I always leave a bit of slack so, in the future, if I need to pull on one of the cables that pass through them, I can do that easily.
@iPlayOnSpica
@iPlayOnSpica Год назад
I just keep and collect every single twist tie from all the components and electronics I've bought over the years with cables tied with them.
@Jcreek201
@Jcreek201 Год назад
@@iPlayOnSpica That's some jank Great Depression shit. Zip ties are like 99c for a thousand.
@envyhysteria
@envyhysteria 11 месяцев назад
@@Jcreek201 Sometimes , those are easier and better to use. Chill out
@gmailcgs
@gmailcgs 11 месяцев назад
​@@Jcreek201 bullkrap, price is $12 for a 1000. Stop Lying about 99 cents for a 1000 pack.
@hydrod12345
@hydrod12345 Год назад
Like you I've been repairing and building computers for around 35 years. I've come to the conclusion that every time I think I know what I'm doing everything gets changed. It does keep my mind going.
@theflyinggrip
@theflyinggrip Год назад
Use all the bread ties that came with your hardware to cable manage inside the case. It's super easy to anchor the ties to different areas, and it gives you a great quick release cable tie while reusing what would have ended up in a landfill.
@BurgerMan87
@BurgerMan87 5 месяцев назад
Already threw them away 😂
@kyleanderson4280
@kyleanderson4280 3 месяца назад
Mine didn't come with any
@Karn0010
@Karn0010 Год назад
Always keep your motherboard manual handy. It will be a life line your first few times building.
@gmualum08
@gmualum08 Год назад
Oh yeah and when remembering what headers the mobo has, like how many 5v A-RGB
@joeyderrico8134
@joeyderrico8134 Год назад
Its a lifeline even for experienced builders sometimes just because there is always that 1 thing different about the board that you didn't realize
@razvann6907
@razvann6907 Год назад
@@joeyderrico8134 like on an older motherboard I encountered, where you needed to install the ram in adjacent slots if you wanted to use them in dual channel. You never know when a manufacturer decides to be that special snowflake that does things different from the rest and he only does it for that one specific motherboard.
@Mr3ppozz
@Mr3ppozz Год назад
I love these videos... I've been building my own pcs for 30+ years and I still feel it's good practice to make sure you crossed all your X-es and dotted all your i's
@drawingablank01
@drawingablank01 Год назад
crossed x's hmm
@nddbulldog1
@nddbulldog1 Год назад
Def crossed some x's
@Dark_Reaper_86
@Dark_Reaper_86 Год назад
It's cross your t's and dot your i's, but whatever
@Mr3ppozz
@Mr3ppozz Год назад
I knew it was cross something xD Thanks for the correct saying :)
@vidiot5533
@vidiot5533 Год назад
@@Mr3ppozz can you show me an e\ample of when anyone ever forgot to cross their Xs? lol
@vectionnoitcev2836
@vectionnoitcev2836 Год назад
I started building PC's in the mid 80's after buying an IBM PC (now what do we do? I don't know, it's a DOS environment!) and another no name system at a computer show. I don't miss the guesswork of having to set DIP switches to get it to run at all. I made the mistake of not researching compatibility issues once in all the years since starting to build them. I've either been lucky or I've got a talent for building them. PC Part Picker is my friend now.
@Hypershell
@Hypershell Год назад
My tip: Make sure your RAM is seated all the way in. The thing that surprised me most on my first build was the HUGE difference in seating RAM versus seating a CPU. Feather touch with a CPU, while with RAM you're afraid you're going to break something and it's not even in. This goes along with "line it up right" since even if lined up correctly you still have to be pretty firm. Also thanks, Jay, for the AM5 backplate reminder, that one is REAL easy to forget. I still have an AM4 system and need to remember that if/when I upgrade, I can't trust AMD's word that AM4 coolers are compatible. One more thing: To go along with the 4 RAM slot compatibility thing, if you're doing your first RAM upgrade, not your first build (meaning you have 2 occupied slots and 2 open slots, so you go out to buy 2 more sticks), I seriously recommend getting a higher capacity than your original kit. That way, if they don't play nice together, you can replace the old kit and it's still an upgrade, just not as big of one.
@Fleet-Admiral-Harrison
@Fleet-Admiral-Harrison Год назад
I've seen this on some builds, on some marketplaces, that the GPU is in the bottom PCIe slot, which is usually like x4, or x8 (at best). Normally, beginners do this, thinking that any full length PCIe slot, will do, but, the top slot is marked (sometimes), or has some sort of reinforcement, for heavier GPU's, which will help keep the GPU, from damaging the slot. But, those PC's, on the marketplaces, I've looked at, had some relatively modern cards, in them, and they looked like they were recently built, so I questioned, if maybe the top PCIe slot was either dead, or damaged (which is possible), or possibly, something is wrong, with the MoBo, or CPU. If you're building a new PC, just make sure that you use the top, full length PCIe slot, cause that runs at the full x16 speeds, so you're not running into bottlenecks, from that. TLDR: If you don't know which slot your GPU goes in, either consult your manual, or just look for the top most, full length PCIe slot, cause that runs at the full speeds, of the controller.
@GregoryShtevensh
@GregoryShtevensh Год назад
Yeah great advice! Push with confidence
@Isaiiahii
@Isaiiahii Год назад
A lot of AM4 coolers will work with AM5. The only coolers that won't work on AM5 are those that need the backplate replaced. I have an AIO cooler that sells as only being compatible with AM4, but it also works on AM5. As long as the cooler mounting holes aligns with the screw holes that mount the plastic clips for air coolers, then any AM4 cooler will work on AM5.
@Hypershell
@Hypershell Год назад
@@Isaiiahii Jay was quite clear in the video about the backplate issue, my point is AMD never specified that caveat. My cooler did require its own backplate, so it will not move to AM5.
@TheOnlyKontrol
@TheOnlyKontrol Год назад
Once you realize how much effort it takes to remove the 18pin plug from some boards you realize that pushing down on the ram isn’t going to do anything lol
@BETEP-gw7qp
@BETEP-gw7qp Год назад
I've built my own computers for about 20 years, but I still love watching these videos from Jay
@aquel9367
@aquel9367 Год назад
Same
@MikeCarusoGPlus
@MikeCarusoGPlus Год назад
Me too
@reinoaalto9941
@reinoaalto9941 Год назад
+1
@Hawke677
@Hawke677 Год назад
Well, Luke Skywalker turns to Yoda in times of need, we turn to Jay, perfectly natural.
@rkbvideos575
@rkbvideos575 Год назад
Just finished my second PC build. Went with a Z790, 4080 and 13900k. Wouldn't have ever built a computer if I hadn't found your channel all those years ago. Thanks for giving us the confidence to do it ourselves. :) I dropped my screw driver on my motherboard and bent the pins first time around lmao
@gmualum08
@gmualum08 Год назад
Ouch 😳😵‍💫
@QUITZ_
@QUITZ_ Год назад
How did you even get out of that situation
@Nayr7928
@Nayr7928 Год назад
Sounds like a rich person problem while reading.
@TheCODfatherSD
@TheCODfatherSD Год назад
@@Nayr7928 you sound salty
@TheCODfatherSD
@TheCODfatherSD Год назад
Lmao same happened to me bro. I bent my 3900x and just bought another one lmao
@Echo3_
@Echo3_ 11 месяцев назад
I been building pcs since 1997 and I will say never get to cocky I watch videos like this to this day to keep my brain sharp. You always have more to learn.
@DrakZhull
@DrakZhull Год назад
I remember when I was building my first PC, it took me about two hours to figure out where everything was supposed to go. Then it didn't run and I spent a whole night figuring out what was wrong with it. Furious, tilted, almost ready to ship it to some professional builder. Started at around 2PM, PC started working at 6AM. That was 13 years ago and it is still one of the best memories I have. To anyone on the fence about whether or not to build your PC by yourself or not. Yes, do it. You might feel lost and on the verge of madness at some point, but you will look back at those memories with fondness.
@OhSoCheesy
@OhSoCheesy 6 дней назад
I've been building computers since there was such a thing. We didn't have the help there is now. It's great that you can either Google your issue and almost always someone else has had the issue or check out RU-vid and , again, almost always you can find an answer to your question. Of course that's true of almost everything and not just computers. I love the technology age. Well, except for when the AI takes over. 🤣
@mtw31993
@mtw31993 Год назад
Recently built my first pc. This channel was a huge help in figuring out what I was doing. There are certainly things I wish I'd done (and bought) differently, but it's running great and building was a ton of fun.
@Anankin12
@Anankin12 Год назад
Yeah, I'm regretting getting an A520 series Mobo for like 30€ less than a B450, which would have been better in everything, because I feared it wouldn't be able to run 5000 series CPU. Also the case won't support coolers taller than 15 cm, which is bad as most decent coolers are 15.5.
@imma5761
@imma5761 Год назад
@@Anankin12 just save money for b550 and switch it eventually
@xflyinglizardx
@xflyinglizardx Год назад
disconnecting all drives before you install windows is actually a really good advice because even if you know which drive is which and you install windows onto your fastest nvme or whatever, the BOOTLOADER could still be installed on a DIFFERENT drive REGARDLESS of what you picked in the installer.
@dustysparks
@dustysparks Год назад
I've had this happen twice now. I went to upgrade a drive, and poof! System wouldn't boot anymore no matter what I did.
@clinten3131
@clinten3131 Год назад
Why would Windows do that?
@CURTSNIPER
@CURTSNIPER Год назад
plus if you want to do a reinstall and you have some drives with only games on it, steam will discover them on there already when you try to download to that drive
@subcon959
@subcon959 Год назад
@@clinten3131 I've thought that many times about Windows in general
@TheGreatTave
@TheGreatTave Год назад
@@clinten3131 Hey, Microsoft is a multi-billion dollar corporation, how could they ever pay any engineers to prevent something like this from happening?
@jaredsmith7065
@jaredsmith7065 Год назад
Make sure your case is sizable. The case that I bought for my PC fits everything, but the motherboard was a pain in the ass to get in, and I nearly dropped it because there was no room for my fingers to hold it. I'm planning on oversizing the case next time
@Saabjock
@Saabjock Год назад
There was a great article years ago from PC Power and Cooling about modular power-supplies. It referenced what happens when people constantly plug and unplug those connectors with regard to high resistance and current draw. I've owned the same 750 Crossfire PS since 2011 as a result. It has now gone through no less than five builds, each flawlessly.
@doctajuice
@doctajuice Год назад
I'm about 20 years into my pc building journey and still learn new things with every build. One of the reasons I still love this hobby and also why I still watch basic build guides even though I have years of experience and like 25 builds done
@patrickhudson9236
@patrickhudson9236 Год назад
Watching you and Paul and Kyle gave me the confidence to build my first computer in 2017 and now I’ve built 5 systems.
@nickwilkerson6694
@nickwilkerson6694 Год назад
You have helped me so much in the last year. Between you Linus and Greg salazar I have went from a person who always thought building a PC was something that was just out of the realm of possibility for me to someone that fixes other ppls PCs weekly. I love having the knowledge and ability to help others. I live in a rural area of ky and it's not easy or cheap for PC repair around here. Your channel has not only helped me but a lot of hard working ppl around me that simply couldn't afford to have something repaired by a professional. So thank you for your knowledge
@millanferende6723
@millanferende6723 Год назад
Jay does not need a proper outro, because he knows he is one of the best sources on RU-vid and nobody is going to be leaving him! xD
@mastersarge5488
@mastersarge5488 Год назад
I just built my 4th machine in roughly the past 6 months. My buddy wanted a full AM5 build (7900x, 670e Taichi, Fury Beast 5600 RAM, etc). It runs like a dream and I couldn't have done this without you and Christopher Flannigan. Keep up the excellent work. You are helping us noobies crawl kicking and screaming into the computer building world (with a minimum of mistakes).
@scotthaggard
@scotthaggard Год назад
I think it would be helpful to remind again on the potentially lengthy initial boot time for a new AMD build. I ran into this for the first time a couple years ago, ended up doing an RMA on the motherboard, which was tested and returned, and at no point in the process did they (Asus, I believe) mention how long the initial boot might take, even though I explained the reason for the RMA. It was almost by luck that after getting it back and trying again, exasperated I just let it sit, and eventually it proceeded to boot, to my surprise. I never understood why until a couple years later I heard Jay mention it... mind blown. Yeah, good stuff. Always something new to learn.
@edmorris4103
@edmorris4103 Год назад
Thanks Scott! Can you elaborate on this a bit, please? I'm researching a new build to happen in the next month or so, and I'm planning an AMD CPU with an ASUS board, just like you mention. How long did the initial boot take? Were there status lights lit? Anything specific to look for?
@Robonord427
@Robonord427 Год назад
@@edmorris4103 I'll jump in here if you don't mind, as I've just completed an AMD build, with ASUS MB, so I think I can answer your question: The initial boot takes about 30-45 seconds and equally as long when you enable XMP. This is down to the system running memory training on boot, so the more memory you have, the longer it will take. You can enable "Context Restore" which skips the memory training if it does not detect any changes. This reduces the boot time to a couple of seconds (seriously, it's super quick). However, if you have any problems (BSOD) and Context Restore is enabled, you may not be able to boot at all, so you have to boot to Bios, turn it off and let the memory training take place. Personally, I've left it off as 30 seconds boot time is not a huge problem for me. With regards lights, you have four Q-LED lights on the MB that light up in order as the boot goes through it's stages (DRAM, CPU, VGA, BOOT). If any of these stays on or starts flashing, you at least know where to start troubleshooting. Hope that helps and happy building!
@edmorris4103
@edmorris4103 Год назад
@@Robonord427 Thanks!! Yes, that helps a ton!
@danegay4327
@danegay4327 Год назад
Gearing up to start buying parts and building my first pc! I thank you for all your solid advice and info. Its been a huge motivator and I know it will help me going into my build.
@eduardosanchez7827
@eduardosanchez7827 Год назад
This is the kind of video we should all see randomly at least once every few years. Great content, you just showed me a few things easy to forget for my next build
@aaronmcneal1698
@aaronmcneal1698 Год назад
Back to the basics. I dig it. With everyone working at home and the new interest in PC's it's good to see someone going back to the basic building tips. I spend hours a day helping others with their first PC. This may not be the video for everyone, but it's the video everyone needs
@fhracing5614
@fhracing5614 Год назад
When jay posts, it makes everyone's day better
@cnvdh3514
@cnvdh3514 Год назад
💯
@Mr-fn3yb
@Mr-fn3yb Год назад
I concur.
@neondemon5137
@neondemon5137 Год назад
Starving children in Africa: bruh
@michaelcartwright306
@michaelcartwright306 Год назад
except for guys with man-buns.
@belial8608
@belial8608 Год назад
Love these videos, built my first system last year. Luckily I did a lot of research first and only mistake i made was putting the RAM beside each other which obviously was easy to fix. It's an MSI, Corsair, WD build and it booted up first try so I'm proud of myself but STILL, I do enjoy watching these to learn anything I could have possibly missed.
@logrolesdownstairs
@logrolesdownstairs Год назад
I just did my first build and found twist ties to be super useful. I tend to hoard heavier duty twist ties from product packaging and used those for my cable management. That was nice because I slowly replaced the factory case fans and could easily change how I was routing cables.
@fdimichele
@fdimichele Год назад
I use zip ties as they are a bit safer to use because they don't have metal in them or those cheap velcro loops.
@VikingKong.
@VikingKong. Год назад
It's all about the velcro loops
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Год назад
16:49 If you're upgrading from one drive to another, pull the old drive out when installing windows, yes the old drive is going to be extremely easy to see because it has partitions, but the windows installer also sees those partitions, and one of those partitions is the UEFI bootloader, the windows installer is going to see that bootloader and add the entry to the new install to that bootloader on the old drive, so if you format or remove that drive in the future neither drive will be bootable. Edit, this may make bitlocker on your old drive require the use of a recovery key if for some reason your BIOS clears the old key.
@chaoticxie1425
@chaoticxie1425 Год назад
I've had this happen before, it's a headache for sure.
@ryangarcia1359
@ryangarcia1359 Год назад
I recently built my pc and had an used External SSD and Hard drive. I believe I have done this because windows will no longer boot. Do I need to clear both of them now? Or can I save some of the data on the hard drive and only clear the ssd?
@Crynomical
@Crynomical Год назад
If you delete the drives so there are no partitions it’s way less likely that windows will do that also I found out on Google if you have multi drives when your setting up windows in custom mode you can use cmd commands to tell you what drive is what (:
@Crynomical
@Crynomical Год назад
Found it (: Press Shift+F10 in the installer, a command prompt window will open. In this window type diskpart and press enter. Once the diskpart utility loads, type list disk. This will show you a list of all installed drives, the two drives in question should be disk 0 and disk 1. These identifiers should also line up with what the installer identifies the drives as. Now enter sel disk . Enter detail disk. This will display fairly detailed drive information. In this case the drive manufacturer will likely be the most useful information for you to determine which drive is which. Repeat steps 4 and 5 as needed to get information on other drives. Enter exit twice to exit the diskpart utility and close the command prompt window.
@denvera1g1
@denvera1g1 Год назад
@@Crynomical Alot of people want to keep their old drive in case they forgot to back something up, also because most of the time people are installing to all blank drives, most people dont know that windows just adds to an existing bootloader, There may be a way to get the installer to create a different boot drive, but its not something that is obvious during install, and may require you to carefully wipe the bootloader from your old drive, which might make your data inaccessable if you dont have a bitlocker recovery key
@freakfir
@freakfir Год назад
Always check your clearance, especially if you're planning on an SFF build. 1mm can be the factor for not being able to install your cooler/GPUs inside your case.
@bradkuker3012
@bradkuker3012 Год назад
Love your videos! They have all helped me be way less intimidated on building my first PC! I believe I’m heading the correct way. Appreciate your channel!
@CheeseNacho_
@CheeseNacho_ 5 месяцев назад
always check the list of compatible processors with your motherboard, it goes way further than just matching the socket, i was lucky enough to buy both parts in an amazing store, they called me to tell me both parts were incompatible so i could change one of them, that's how i learned, luckily, not the hard way
@privacyvalued4134
@privacyvalued4134 Год назад
My biggest tip is to install RAM before installing the CPU cooler. Trying to do it the other way around is usually possible but you'll end up working in a tighter space to try to seat at least one of the sticks. It requires a little muscle to seat RAM properly because tolerances for RAM slots are tight so that the electrical connection is solid. It's easy to not fully seat RAM and the computer won't POST when that happens. Installing the CPU cooler before the RAM just makes it more likely that the RAM stick closest to the CPU won't be fully seated.
@malphador
@malphador Год назад
Jay, great video sir. I also have been assembling for close to 30 years now. One process that took a long time to get right, is affixing a AiO water cooler for the cpu "Flush". The mechanic process of cross-tightening does not really hit the mark I have found. If you have time for a future video showing mounting processes and verification. I have found pressing down with 1 hand gently and tightening with one hand while keeping contact with the other. Any occasion where I tightened down in a cross pattern you just do not keep torque even. You hit the nail with your ram section, you can get the best Strix board, and 4 sticks of name brand top of the line, and the CPU will boot loop a few times, disable XMP for you and leave you clutching the edge of the desk every time you turn the thing on LoL.
@KEYBEATZ
@KEYBEATZ Год назад
I've only been building computers for 16 years, I have not had a system fail on me yet however, I still watch videos like these because you learn something new every time
@kyleshuler2929
@kyleshuler2929 Год назад
Getting ready to put together my first build. Just need a few more parts. This video was huge for me. Thank you.
@chrisguli2865
@chrisguli2865 Год назад
More tips - 1. Apply right amount of (and good quality) thermal paste - too little and too much are bad. 2. If using an AIO cooler make sure there is enough space for the radiator and that the cooler head is compatible with the socket AM4/5/LGA intel. (I made this mistake went out and bought an AIO cooler and then realized the radiator was too big and butt up against the motherboard VRM heatsinks which are honking these days.) 3. If using a modular PSU make sure to use only the cables that came with the PSU so you don't fry your motherboard. When installing an LGA type processor be careful not to drop anything or the processor onto the socket. When installing the processor hold it carefully close to the motherboard and off to the side.
@BakaDani
@BakaDani Год назад
One mistake that I've been making recently are with SATA cables. Be careful with SATA cables. They're more fragile than you think. I've broken 3 SATA cable connectors within the past year. They are at least pretty cheap and motherboards come with quite a few of them (some SSDs too). If you're wondering how I managed to break 3 of them within a year, it was from unplugging them in tight spaces, putting pressure on one side. Also be careful with the USB 3.0 header. The cable is often pretty thick, making a pain to plug in on some motherboards. Super easy to bend the pins if the connector is not aligned.
@justjoe5373
@justjoe5373 Год назад
For USB 3 you need to be gentle like a butterfly drinking a drop of dew early in the morning of a hot June day, while simultaneously applying 400 newtons of force
@john9801
@john9801 Год назад
Would love to see a series for all the components and what you should watch out for. Basically this video split into multiple ones and getting into more details
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 Год назад
aww shit
@m3lfbreezy
@m3lfbreezy Год назад
you want MORE details? are you kidding me... my brains fried.
@drppbutts1194
@drppbutts1194 9 месяцев назад
4 of my favorite tips: Always install your i/o backplate for the motherboard first and confirm its on the correct way, this is not as much of an issue with higher end boards since they usually come with the i/o backplate as part of the motherboard. Install your power supply before your motherboard or sata devices, see where your motherboard power connectors are and know what cables will need to route before installing the motherboard. Always assemble as much of your motherboard with all components before you install it in your case, its so much easier to have your cpu/cooler ram and m.2 socket parts installed outside of the case. If you go for an all in one (AIO) cooler, make sure you don't have your pump as the high point of the loop, think of where air will collect: if it's where the pump is you are going to have a problem. Water pumps only pump water, they will be unable to move the liquid around if theres air in the pump.
@proxima8498
@proxima8498 Год назад
The most painful experience for me was the fact that, for XMP profile to work and in case you are using double RAM sticks, you have to put your 2 RAM modules in the 2nd of each slots from left to right. In my imagination it was logical to put them in A1 and B1 and I spent hours of trial and error to find out that it must be A2 and B2. Painful learning but it even says so in the motherboard manual but that’s what you get for not reading :D
@razvann6907
@razvann6907 Год назад
I encountered an older motherboard where, in order to get dual channel, you had to install the ram in adjacent slots, always read the manual.
@David-rx5eo
@David-rx5eo Год назад
My manual clearly suggest A2 and B2 if you only have two sticks of memory.
@fdimichele
@fdimichele Год назад
It is pretty much standard practice these days to install ram as far away from cpu and space them apart because it just makes cooling sense if anything. In the past, you had color coding of ram slots because it varied. You should see server boards with like 16 slots. The patterns you have to follow get even more involved.
@Just_Call_Me_Tim
@Just_Call_Me_Tim Год назад
Here's one for you: If you've been taken by the SFF bug, do your best to add even just one small/thin case fan in the event you go for liquid cooling on your CPU. There are passively cooled components (RAM, M.2 covers...) that may not get nearly enough airflow otherwise. I'm having to replace my boot drive (as it became my only drive and became overworked for the cooling I had available), and now I'm without a PC for a week waiting on the parts to come in. Don't neglect your passively cooled components / don't expect your radiator fans to draw in enough from the side panels, etc to help with the passively cooled things.
@takuame7
@takuame7 Год назад
I very recently built a pc for my fiance that used a couple spare parts from her old build (mainly just the psu, hard drive, and gpu) your channel helped me a ton in making the process go without any hiccups. Just had to recently rebuild my pc due to a faulty motherboard, i neglected to plan for the fact my pc was a prebuilt from HP so I'll throw some tips in to save anyone the sheer headache I had with my personal build a few weeks ago. Couple tips to add: 1. If your salvaging from a prebuilt don't be suprised when half the crap in it is proprietary 2. Said prebuilt may have a psu that is only usable with their motherboard, any attempts to use it with any motherboard that isint that specific board may result in the new board being totalled (in my unfortunate experience it locked the new board into an infinite loop of trying to start up the bios) 3. Even the ram may be compromised in said prebuilt 4. Fuck HP Omen Summary: motherboard went bad on a HP Omen 40L, i decided to just replace the board with my new knowledge of pc building. Ended up getting severely screwed because "proprietary". On the bright side ended up with basically a new PC for around $400(could only use the gpu and cpu from the omen). Loving the lian li lancool mesh 2 i got on sale from microcenter.
@bradentribble6374
@bradentribble6374 5 месяцев назад
Always a good idea to review the basics. Just today, I was installing my new AIO cooler for my CPU, and I forgot to take the plastic film off of the cold plate.
@samppawest
@samppawest Год назад
My tip: if your memory resembles fishnet stocking as mine does, just do a step-by-step checklist before starting the actual building or fixing. Using five to thirty minutes to ’plan the attack’ will save you at least the time you put in the planning and more often save you a lot of time since redoing stuff drops to a minimum.
@samppawest
@samppawest 10 месяцев назад
I just broke that tip and in the end forgot to connect main front and back fans. 😅 I have secondary fan in the front and on the back roof of the case which are connected to the case’s fan controller. It was my first time building in a case with actual cable management capability in the back so of course I forgot something since there were some cables that weren’t going to be plugged anyway. Wouldn’t have happened with a checklist.
@freeyourmind112358
@freeyourmind112358 5 месяцев назад
I thought u were talking about ram lol
@tinklegaming2298
@tinklegaming2298 Год назад
Great content Jay! Love you and your teams work 💚
@johnbogle6475
@johnbogle6475 Год назад
Good bit about cable management. In non-computer, traditional electronics, leaving a little bit of slack is sometimes known as a "Service Loop". I got this mostly from wiring up rack systems for Audio, Video & of course Networking. An aside (probably wouldn't relate to your watchers), in an outdoor installation, exposed wires should be installed with a "Drip Loop" which gives water a path other than your installed gear. Look up at power poles and youwill see :). Great video. Cheers
@ajo4788
@ajo4788 Год назад
Whew im free from these mistakes from your prior videos. I appreciate it my build is running well thanks to your vids and helping me really look into things.
@fdimichele
@fdimichele Год назад
I learned the hard way that putting a standoff in the wrong position can cause electrical mayhem. Honestly, why did they ever even have standoffs that you must install yourself. The patter doesn't change. You can use all the different formats. Maybe server boards are odd, but consumer boards are basically the same mounting pattern. I had one case with removable motherboard tray. It was awesome.
@djhaleux
@djhaleux Год назад
This video just saved me from 2 major mistakes I would have made on my first PC that I'm in the process of building! Thank you for all of your insanely valuable videos!!
@Cwra1smith
@Cwra1smith Год назад
Make sure you use copper nails instead of iron.
@youhavetoguessit
@youhavetoguessit Год назад
Refreshing the basics is always important. Preciate you
@Summer_Lilac
@Summer_Lilac Год назад
The best advice I have is if a component is not working try reseating it, unplug it and plug it back in. This is a lot more helpful on older things that might have a bit of corrosion on it. Also making sure things are fully seated. Don't go smashing it but make sure it is firm. The next bit of advice, troubleshoot one thing at a time. it will help you in the long run to narrow things down after you have fixed them.
@jacobcarrier8373
@jacobcarrier8373 Год назад
If a connector does not go in on the first try, or you feel like it's going in sideways and going to break, STOP and take a look at the connector. Most likely you are improperly lining them up. I bent the USB 3 connector on my board when upgrading my system. Thankfully after waking away and sleeping on it I was able to fix the pins and carry on. Take your time and think about what should be connected first to make your life easier in a smaller case.
@timdavis6088
@timdavis6088 9 месяцев назад
I just found your channel after starting the R&D of my latest build. Things have changed a bit since 2010. Lol...Thanks for keeping up to date and explaining things so well. You make it easy for anyone to avoid the big box store PC's. The biggest mistake I made in my build from 2010 was not knowing that thermal paste needs to be reapplied at times depending on how many times you have to remove the cooler for cleaning. This last round of cleaning I must have failed to get the cooler pins locked in as the CPU temperature started peaking at 105°C and throttling back. I ordered some new TP and a new cooler but I'm not sure if this build is worth salvaging at this point. I certainly can't complain. Getting almost 15 years out of a sub $1k investment is stupid cheap. I'll still be able to salvage the case, the GPU, and the PSU. So all I really need this time is a new MB, CPU, and RAM. Later on I can upgrade the GPU and the PSU as needed.
@Smokey_MR2
@Smokey_MR2 Год назад
My biggest mistake was not finding this channel years ago and subscribing, but at least that's a mistake I have now rectified! Love the content and the way you produce, thank you.
@tfeinstein
@tfeinstein Год назад
Jay, first off, thank you for all the advice. I've only built 3 PCs over the years and sat on each of them for 6-9 years, so its kind of like coming at it again for the fist time each time. Last July I decided to start getting back into it and came across yours and Steve's channels which I have been watching ever since. Really helpful and entertaining. My one piece of advice for those new to building a PC (or more like a re-emphasis of what was stated within the video) is to over-index on your PSU wattage and rating for a few additional reasons: a - Transient power spikes are a real thing. It truly sucks when your PC shuts down as things get exciting during a game... but only as an infrequent and unexpected surprise. b - From what I've read, and think I understand (we'll see if anyone comes at me from the top rope :^), PSUs generally run more efficiently when they are drawing around half of their max wattage. Higher efficiency equals less heat, which equals less noise. - FYI, I finally hit the button on all the parts. Looking forward to next weekend's entertainment. :^) - Thanks again.
@john9801
@john9801 Год назад
Good quality PSU can have a 90+% efficiency even when at 80% power draw. Compared with 92% efficiency at 50% power draw the difference isn't that big. Also with very low loads during idle, the efficiency can drop below 80% which is not too much of a problem though as at those low wattages it doesn't matter as much. But because of that I'd try to not get too big of a power supply.
@evlkenevl2721
@evlkenevl2721 Год назад
I over-spec my psu for both of these reasons, and to enable upgrading as well. Also being able to tell a good psu from a shady one has gotten more difficult. This is mostly due to lax 80+ rating enforcement and "customer" reviews being total BS now. Seriously, canned reviews (and the inclusion of reviews for totally different items) should have been a legal issue by now.
@john9801
@john9801 Год назад
@@evlkenevl2721 that's why I use the PSU tier list combined with in depth reviews. Mostly toms hardware and techpowerup.
@tfeinstein
@tfeinstein Год назад
@John thanks for the added info. I do remember the callout of being less efficient at lower power usages. I guess there's nothing perfect for every situation. I went with an 850 Titanium from Seasonic to power my new rig with a 4070 Ti paired with an i5 13600K. Max power draw should be about ~450 with transients popping an additional ~110. But that's while gaming or running some AI projects. Browsing around, I won't be efficient at all.
@MaycroftCholmsky
@MaycroftCholmsky Год назад
It would be interesting to hear about the common mistakes users do AFTER building their first PC. For example, I've plugged my intake fans in Pump slot of the motherboard because it was labled "pump/fan 1" and sat there wondering why they have started spinning on maximum speed the moment I've turned my system on. Got it figured in a couple of hours, but still. Also I'm still looking into the whole "fan curve" thing and didn't find any definitive answers how the fans should be properly configured to not put unnesessary strain on them and not to de-sync cpu, gpu and case fans creating all kinds of air turbulence inside the case. Pretty sure almost every first time builder has some stories like that one.
@michaelpoczynek
@michaelpoczynek Год назад
GOOD STUFF! Thanks. Working on a first build in many years. 😀
@PenPineappleApplePen007
@PenPineappleApplePen007 7 месяцев назад
Ty, I placed the ram sticks next to each other. Going to fix that today. I learned something new from this video.
@siristar8339
@siristar8339 Год назад
The biggest and most annoying thing I did as I was building my first gaming pc was not making absolute sure my motherboard was compatible with my CPU cooler. I've seen many builds using the ASUS ROG Strix z690-e motherboard paired with a Noctua NH-D15 cooler. So I thought I was okay getting it. Apparently, as I was installing it, I noticed the cooler wasn't sitting evenly on the CPU and was extremely difficult to screw in. I looked it up later specifically looking up issues in terms of the VRM heatsink size. To my surprise, I found out ASUS made all the z690 and z790 motherboards to have this issue and therefore incompatible with most air coolers. I guess to have more people buy AIO water coolers? The cooler can't rest evenly on the CPU with the VRM heatsink in the way. The only way those builds I saw prior to my purchase could possibly make it work was if they modified the VRM plastic cover or orientated the cooler sideways for bottom/top airflow instead of the more typical front to back orientation. That wasn't ideal for me nor did I want to risk voiding warranty by cutting the plastic cover off so I ended up swapping motherboards for MSI. Its been a nightmare trying to build my first PC. I really wish it was more clear that some motherboards just aren't compatible with certain coolers. Noctua's website has a chart for compatibility but because I saw many other builds on PCPartPicker have this pair I thought it was going to be okay. I noticed other CPU cooler companies don't always have a compatibility chart and if they do, its not very easily found on their site. I've ended up returning and swapping about half my original build idea. Because I thought it was just the cooler's fault, I swapped that first. Then realized it was the motherboard itself so I swapped motherboards. I kept the second cooler since its on par with the noctua one for a better price and had enough returns to worry about. I swapped for faster Ram for only $15 more than what I originally paid for because it was on sale. And then I swapped GPU. I got the ASUS ROG Strix OC 3070 ti but then saw for just $50 more I could get the MSI Ventus 3x OC 4070ti. I'll finally get to put it all together this weekend so wish me luck. I hope I wont come across any more issues or return anything else.
@pepperthekobold
@pepperthekobold Год назад
My biggest tip would be plug in the EPS (CPU power 4+4) plugs before putting your motherboard in the case if it has rear cable management.
@kaffepojke
@kaffepojke Год назад
Greetings from So Cal. Excellent video for the unsure in your audience. I built / modified my first computer (IBM XT) in the mid 80's and built one every few years until the 2000's. I have gone the lazy route of just ordering something stock ever since then, but feel like getting back into doing it myself again. (I'm really old, btw). With so many changes and new features in today's computers, it is quite intimidating for a new / returning computer builder. Even the number of cables that connect to the motherboard and components scares me. Thank you for any and all basic videos.
@roger-2620
@roger-2620 Год назад
Thanks for all this info!!! I'll prob build my pc soon, it's gonna be kind of high end so I'm a bit scared of mistakes but this helps a lot!!! 😁
@juhanapajari7471
@juhanapajari7471 Год назад
Interesting what you said about ram speeds. I turned into a first time builder a few months ago and paired 7700x with corsair vengeance 5600 38cl sticks, asus tuf b650 board, and I could not get windows to finish installing without really random crashing. I had the feeling it was memory related, enabled expo thinking maybe it'll like those timings better and it's worked flawlessly since. Just left feeling a bit uneasy about not understanding why the default timings had it vomiting.
@Djuntas
@Djuntas Год назад
Asus b650 tuf gaming plus? I hear a lot of memory issues on this mobo. Its why im going with AMD expo ram that clearly states that...In my case some Kingston 5600 mhz ram, through was gonna buy 6000 mhz corsair vengeance black.
@DJTabor_95
@DJTabor_95 Год назад
I watched countless hours of your content before I ever thought of building my first PC. I have an entire playlist of your build guides and videos like this so I didnt make these mistakes. Luckily I had no hiccups building it lol.
@wildedog2204
@wildedog2204 Год назад
Jay, I want to build a PC, but with all the new hardware I’m not sure with what to go with or if I should wait. I’m not afraid to spend a little money and get a nice looking, mid to high range PC. I trust your advice and hope to see some build videos in various power ranges soon!
@hansangb
@hansangb 11 месяцев назад
You know..I've built 20+ computers by now. Delid'ed 4 generations of CPUs. But I *never* bothered to correlate the fan support/open side and flow direction. When the arrows weren't there, I would just test it and move on. So thanks, you saved me from having to guess! :)
@nal_er
@nal_er Год назад
Love your work! Speaking if beginner mistakes. A lot of creators are struggling with the fact that the new 13900k is unstable at 128 gigs of DDR5 ram which high end pro's that work in the film industry need. And they are going out and building these unstable systems for studios = lots of $$$$ wasted. The ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI board might solve this issue. Will you please do an in-depth review on the ProArt Z790-CREATOR WIFI board for professionals? Does this board's new ram control tech solve this issue? Can we get stability on 128 gigs of ram if we lower the speed and turn off some of the silly over clock marketing ram features that make 0.0000001% speed difference in real world professional usage? Thank you! YOU SIR, ROCK!
@nepnep6894
@nepnep6894 Год назад
If you need 128GB of ram get HEDT. No consumer platform does 128GB of ram stable with decent performance.
@mikeford963
@mikeford963 Год назад
Memory controllers are on the CPU now, not on the board. Sounds like that's either an Intel oversight, or maybe a BIOS issue?
@nepnep6894
@nepnep6894 Год назад
@@mikeford963pcb traces on the board still have a huge effect
@mikeford963
@mikeford963 Год назад
@@nepnep6894 True, but the comment is about the memory controller being on that particular mobo, which is no longer the case. Ever since they took the north bridge off the motherboards, memory controllers have been in the CPU die itself. That's part of the reason they got larger.
@ashleyjohansson230
@ashleyjohansson230 Год назад
People need to stop telling others to only get a power supply just good enough for their system or else its overkill because graphics cards are becoming more and more power hungry. Otherwise everyone will have to replace their power supply everytime they upgrade graphics cards and it would create more waste.
@grumpyratt2163
@grumpyratt2163 Год назад
that's good advice i always go at least 100W above recommended psu wattage
@onemorescout
@onemorescout Год назад
Besides, you need to account for power spikes anyways unless you’re a blue screen addict
@brandon3500
@brandon3500 Год назад
Good call on the "Always check your components". This is the first step I always take after purchasing a mobo/ CPU. I have found a few motherboards, in the past, that would not initially boot at all, so its always good to check.
@LyraniaLothar
@LyraniaLothar Год назад
Bit late but you actually saved me some money! I WAS going to get rid of my water cooling since my previous mother board is an LGA 1151 and my current upgrade has the new LGA 1700 so I figured the water cooling unit was obsolete. Thanks! You saved me $80 which isn't a lot but it is one less component in saving money on!
@qiangdalong3982
@qiangdalong3982 Год назад
Don’t mistake 5v headers with 12v headers for your RGB is something I learned lol
@toushif.hossain.1
@toushif.hossain.1 Год назад
Why this mistake haopens? And What happens if you do that?
@qiangdalong3982
@qiangdalong3982 Год назад
@@toushif.hossain.1 In short, certain rgb strips are rated for certain voltages, so I had a 5v header and a 12v header on my motherboard (asus x570 prime-p I think), but the strip I had was only rated for 5v. So when I plugged it into the 12v, it blew out
@ReelPodcasts
@ReelPodcasts Год назад
Can't say it enough NEVER skimp on a PSU. This was the first and last mistake I ever made building my very first rig. Went for esthetics over practicality and bought from a lesser known maker to save a buck. First one was bad and wouldn't power on and the second also didn't so I then asked for a full refund and bought a better one for an extra $10.
@chillnspace777
@chillnspace777 Год назад
This
@onemorescout
@onemorescout Год назад
PSUcultist list is the best for this kind of thing, always do your research
@gitarmats
@gitarmats Год назад
Might be upgrading my PC soon, so all these videos are a blessing.
@jackhammer915
@jackhammer915 Год назад
I’ve built dozens of computers over the last decade and didn’t learn anything new, but confirmed a lot of things I’d learned/assumed over the years. Good stuff
@ethenjordan2010
@ethenjordan2010 Год назад
I just built my 4090 Rig. Biggest thing i think new builders need to know is that you ( or for me ) HAD to update UEFI/BIOS, before it would let me install windows. Also, showing them where to get this bios update/ windows and how to put it onto a USB Drive. I think if you can build the PC just fine and you’re all excited, this can easily be the most frustrating part for most new people after the anxiety of hoping it post. Lol
@chillnspace777
@chillnspace777 Год назад
What case did you get to house that shoebox 😆
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Год назад
This can't be stressed enough; same goes for the VBIOS on your graphics card.
@mikeford963
@mikeford963 Год назад
Also, keeping up on mobo drivers and utilities. As well as updates on BIOS etc...
@stevewatson6839
@stevewatson6839 Год назад
@@mikeford963 AND be prepped to roll any or all these updates back when the update rather than fixing stuff; breaks other things. As appears to have happened with the early December 6900XT/XTX driver update. Note: NOT the die-breaking that happened to a single source of used mining cards in Germany that had been stored improperly.
@mikeford963
@mikeford963 Год назад
@@stevewatson6839 Oh, agreed. I was referring more to things like Audio updates, USB drivers, LAN drivers, etc...
@joshuavega1723
@joshuavega1723 Год назад
Thanks for all the awesome advice! Super informative, I am thankful for all you do and I appreciate your content. Easy to follow for a beginner like myself.🤘
@Stormpriest
@Stormpriest Год назад
Where I have not as of yet. Anyway, made any of these mistakes, thank you for these videos. I am certain that they will help multiple people not completely scragged their systems and or budgets
@ChrisArtmeier
@ChrisArtmeier Год назад
With your following, and the amount of hobbies your team is doing at HQ. A coulpe of people ive talked to and including myself; would like to see a video on power. Power strips vs power strips w/surge protectors vs UPS. Recently had a spat with my computer and 3d printers. computer was protected by a surge protected power strip. My 3d printer s were just on a standard power strip. Major failure. Once everything was fixed, immediatly ran to MicroCenter and now everything is on UPS
@blueishmeteor
@blueishmeteor 10 месяцев назад
I'm now on my 3rd rebuild and videos like this helps out so much, I'm no pro builder and my system seems sturdy enough 😅
@Caffin8tor
@Caffin8tor 8 месяцев назад
Here's one for you. Check the mbd instructions on jumper settings. I once got a systemboard that shipped with a jumper that had to be moved in order to work. Fortunately, I had skimmed through the manual before assembly and immediately realized that I forgot to move that jumper when my system didn't work.
@Titanfour6
@Titanfour6 6 месяцев назад
been watching you're videos for a long time, and after several prebuilt pc, finally decided to build one myself!! so im on a mission watching my way through these :)
@eugeneleroux2513
@eugeneleroux2513 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the qvl bit, gold right there
@CoryyJ
@CoryyJ Год назад
Built my first PC maybe 2-3 years ago at this point and videos like this are a lifesaver for newbies.
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