BREAKING NEWS: Josh Hawley And Rand Paul Battle Over Amendment To Ban TikTok From U.S. 

YEP RIGHT NOW SEAL IT

@@bryanmathew2079 seal it like the Israel border

The internet needs a secure border too!! ❤

Let politicians decide what info you can get. 🎉

The Empire brains have no lines or borders, they burn Constitutions and social contracts and that is why they are driving the dollar to junk status.

Our current government loves china and all our enemies. Our US government is against the American people.

Never happen, unfortunately.

Re-instate the Smith Mundt Act. Make propaganda illegal again.

Good point. The US media is zionist controlled. What is going on In occupied Palestine is not being reported. The U.S. media will never tell you that Hamas was created by Israel and funded by Israel. They will never tell you that the attacks at the festival were done by Israeli Apache helicopters and they blamed Hamas in order to wipe out the population in Gaza so Israel can steal the natural gas and oil reserves there. They will never tell you Israhell is an illegal occupation and that it wants to create a canal off the coast of Gaza to ship the oil and gas. They will never tell you 9/11 was an inside job or that Hussein never had WMD's or that Gaddafi was killed because he and other African leaders wanted to start and African currency based on natural resources or that the Rwandan Holocaust was caused by the CIA or that the Cambodian holocaust was caused by the CIA and I could go on and on and on.

5 replies. I see one not including now mine. Wtf

exactly they amplify and censor, the censorship complex will never support our freedom of speech and are a threat to our democracy

I wish. If you're tired of Biden, vote for whoever his opponent happens to be in November 2024.

​@@kestrelraptorial689He doesn't have any opponents. Just a successor DONALD TRUMP.

Amen 😊

@@wonderland7493ban parties

Ban both paties, vote for george washington

Or a trump speech 😃😃

@@mikeantell533 the people that are destroying our country are the ones in office now and the corrupt news media is complicit with it, at least the economy was good under Trump and we didn’t have terrorist crossing our southern border.

​@@mikeantell533Trump speech is better than Marxist speech.

@@datacoderX In these comment sections, it comes from everywhere. If only the Information Barons would share that tidbit of information with us (where posters are coming from).

My grandkids are not allowed any of this outrageous scenes against their Godly values and it comes on without our wanting it. This Chinese app pops up and you have to delete it. It is brainwashing our kids against what values we were brought up with them.

Even without TikTok, you still got youtube shorts, instagram, facebook, etc… Politicians just want to control what info people can access. To me, this shouldn’t happen in America.

@@schuiliz8754 Agree and that goes to the posters comment: Good parenting we need the most."

Our children need EDUCATION NOT THE INTERNET THEY DONT EVEN USE PARKS ANYMORE ! IF THEY ARE LUCKY ENOUGH A PARENT TAKES THEM THE PARENT IS ON THE CELL PHONE.

If China has banned the US from the web ....,then ban China from it as well !

Good parenting requires spending enough time with one’s children. Most parents can unfortunately barely make ends meet, even with both parents working full time and/or overtime. How do we expect to get good parenting under these sort of conditions?

So well put. I agree completely.

Without accountability not one cent should be sent anywhere. 10% for the big guy. 🤡🤏

Most of that money comes right back to their banks....see all those mansions and Islands they own which was our stolen money by lies, stealing, and MURDERING!!!

Except RAND PAUL

And then go overseas and pick it up and pocket it

Naw dude. Rand Paul has spoken with great passion AGAINST doing that.

I would love to hear anyone who would disagree with that!!

Good for the CCP

Not good. Protect children

the first ammendment has never applied to espionage.

There is no Right to TikTok.

WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY, WE ARE AND HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A REPUBLIC. !!!!

“Democracy”?

I am sure their terms are similar to that of Facebook, Google, or even Twitter. When you sign up and click "I agree," you allow the companies to do everything with your data. If you aren't happy about it, don't use it. I come down on the side of informing the people of the harm of TikTok and the parents of children need to restrict their children from using it. We cannot stop adults from being stupid!

It is unconstionalble to have 50 pages of terms. Therefore they would be deemed nul and void in a fair court. Therefore no body reads them!

RU-vid? Already many independent journalist who tells the truth about the lies the US govt were blocked and demonetisation by RU-vid.. ban youtube

Hes also doing this.... Headline: Rand Paul backed by GOP donor with $33B TikTok stake. So theres that.

@@ImRic242I hear Rand Paul is backed by 1st amendment donors. Can’t trust that guy. 😂

​@@ImRic242just when I thought Rand Paul was a decent guy.

@@rottman88 He might even think its true in his brain. Ive agreed with 99% of his policy. This is super suspect. Not only because how hes funded by a huge TikTok owner but because I cant figure out how hes arguing freedom of speech for CHINA and comparing the US to China for not allowing China to spread propaganda when China doesnt allow the american propaganda in China. Remember Rand didnt counter any of Hawleys claims of them spying, promoting influence, ect. He argued to give China free speech over Americans safety and foundations of this country. I just cant figure out any other reason to do that unless hes been corrupted by his donor and has convinced himself tthat Chinas free speech is greater than Americans safety. There is speech banned in the US, Speech you can be sued for in the US. If it threatens someone or places them in danger. Its not allowed even in America. I think TikToks speech" fits this pretty well. BTW Hamas 2nd favorite slogan Death to America would be allowed under those free speech rules too.

​@@ImRic242where is this headline from? Cite your source please.

What about this? Headline: Rand Paul backed by GOP donor with $33B TikTok stake. read the article

Josh Hawley is trying to show people how vulnerable this genZ generation really is. If facts were given for a long read, then the youth would skip over them, they just follow their peers and not read the facts of the matter, “monkey say, monkey do.” The genZ generation is the generation I believe to be the last, hence the Z following gen. (A through Z). Remember, who said “We will take over America without firing a shot.” Communist China, buying up the black belt and closing in on our military facilities also, why? Starve us out by not allowing crops to be planted because they own our land and make our military useless by blocking intellectual connections, not to mention dumbing down the youth of our nation to become little lost lambs, infiltrating the school system with things that are not good for them to learn such as pornographic materials, evil has invaded our schools and our country. So, yes this genZ is the last generation and the adults are asleep unfortunately. 🥱 😴 💤

Banning it is easy, but whether this action by the federal government is constitutional will be a hell of a fight for the Supreme Court. The other side could argue in the Supreme Court that allowing this ban would set up the precedent for allowing other bans on other platforms if they are "threats" to national security considered by the federal government.

We don't have any control over what Chinese companies do.

@@IVY12023 Do You think we have control over other internet companies like Google, Facebook, or Apple? No, we don't. And the bigger problem is if you want to control what one or two Chinese companies do, you have to also make laws to control everyone else. That is called the equal application of the law. We can't make a law just singling out one company and telling them how to operate while letting other companies, be they US-based or not, do whatever they want.

@@vonnano3561 when we're talking about a communist country that is our enemy application of our laws really don't apply. Do you think they abide by our laws?

@@vonnano3561 What country are you from? Stop pretending to be an expert on our law. The idea there is no difference between foreign and domestic speech is ridiculous. Unlike yer earlier claim, Daffy, our Constitutional rights DO NOT apply to everybody in the world.

People like what?? Tik Toc users??

@@mikeantell533tictoc is a dangerous app. It’s a downfall of the world. Research trafficking.

@@mikeantell533 People like that are above the System. Over it. Beyond it. They are the Information Barons.

Obama abolished the Smith Mundt act to start his own propaganda machine. The act prevented media’s from lying and feeding us propaganda. Any representative or not for the Act themselves have no place in government.

The crazy thing is this bot response got upvotes...

Sounds like you need to go

The INDOCTRINATION is the problem. These colleges need to fire these anti-American professors who promote communism and anti-semitism. Then afterwards, interview new educators to see what their true values are. If they believe in the Constitution, then give them the vacant jobs. 🪶📜❤

Sure but tik tok isn't helping either.

I think it's both.

Your comment will go over the heads of many commenters here. Don't forget the fusion centers as well.

what did you take away from that? I will say I am lean towards Paul and not for votes but because censorship can grow if we allow it more and we have already allowed too much censorship as it is. I don't use that App or any social media apps still I disagree with it being unused but as of the government banning it on government devices that they can do all day. Closing up spying some too.

I really like Rand Paul but sometimes he simply doesn't understand reality versus ideology. His principles are correct but he's applying the wrong ones to the debate. He actually doesn't understands certain national security issues. For example his rant against Saudi Arabia was pathetic. Saudi Arabi has been a strong ally. Now you look at their "royal family" ant it's involvement in terrorism this is to fail to understand how big the royal family is because I guess nobody ever thought about how many wives, sons, grandsons and so forth Ibn Saud had. And if a Saudi "journalist" with a US Green Card gets killed in Turkey is it really a national security issue for the USA? We're going to cut them out of the F35 program over that? Rand Paul gets most things right but I would not want him to be President for that reason. He gets it mostly right but then falls in love with all of his own principles. He gets too certain about things that he doesn't grasp well enough. His attacks of Fauci were golden. We need more like that. But Rand Paul's foreign policy is naive. Here he says it's about censorship with the entire "special pleading" against TikTok is that not only is it doing all the things we don't like tech companies to do in China but it is also owned by China and its entire operation is mirrored (the data) in China. If China wants to ask Google for data on "national security grounds" but it's stored in the USA then China must hack it or pressure them. If the data is stored in China they don't even have to ask, obviously. Because every eye and hand on the infrastructure knows they must comply with CCP orders. Period. I don't know how any one in DC can fail to understand this. There are no enforceable rights or duties the CCP promises to anyone or anything. Everyone knows they do what they want whereover they have the power to do so. If they have sovereign control over mainland China so you think there is any difference between TikTok data stores and the CCP equivalent of our NSA? No. There is none.

Haha I literally just said that to myself. It was refreshing to finally see a good debate between two intellectual and sound-minded men

seing how republicans bans everything from free speech to abortion to apps. what's next? party of freedom my ass

@@indonesiaamerica7050 You think that China could not get this information about us, without TikTok? I hope you are not that naive my friend. Rand Paul is 100% right, like always, as he is using the only thing that matters, the Constitution. Even if it is a security threat, the government does not have the Authority to limit our speech. The Constitution is written to control the government and not us. It does not give us rights, they are God-given. The Constitution limits the governments power and the very 1st amendment, is about how the government cannot infringe on our freedom of speech. Social media is speech, legally even. If they do this, the government has become tyrannical and then the next Jan 6th would not be unjustified and illegal.

Great critical thinking

It was an inside Job. The Israelites had to know.

Pretty tough to swallow that Mossad didn't see this coming.@@elliott9139

Miss, look at Christians being attacked in niger or in Sudan right now. US aided Myanmar genocide two years ago. Why GOP focus on Israel/Gaza entirely. Why send more billions more while Israel is a wealthy nation? Look through Ottoman Palestine if you like history and look at Irguns. Browse and learn about it.

Catherine if you read the Bible it becomes quite clear

...but you trust Meta, Alphabet, X, RU-vid, free email services, and every other form of social media and commentary? You didn't realize they're gathering data on Americans? You don't think they might be using that data in less-than-ethical ways?

Your info is already mined by Google (which owns RU-vid), Facebook, Messenger, Twitter - ALL of them sell/use your info. Electronic Privacy is an illusion.

Exactly . That one statement is the key . Everything else is missing the heart of what Hawley was saying .

You cannot have peace with evil

The species has been entertaining war predating biblical times, peace for humanity has never been on the table. It is embedded in our DNA.

Wrong...when good people do nothing evil prospers.

​@@DYeTrYn6988 defining who is evil is a matter of perspective

@@lazymonty eye of the beholder I know.

Because THEYRE spying on you

TikTok can still get on your phone or computer. In fact deleting the ap doesnt remove it. I suggest you do as I did. Block the TikTok website/url and any other soical media website you dont want spying on you. You have to go into your computer a bit and find the block website portion but Im pretty lame on computers and was able to find it after I deleted TIK Tok cookies multiple times even though I have never once been on Tik Tok and certiainly never joined.

Well that is your choice as everyone should have

You may have deleted the app, but the program is still there.

If it doesn't delete or have an Uninstall button then a lot of phones have a Disable button. That's better than nothing. Also, restrict the apps to not be able to run in the background, remove permissions of notifications, location, etc.

Does anyone know the age of the typical user? Seems it's < 13. Our adversaries are playing a long game, they know what they're doing.

@@JonathanSterlingUSA You sign up & it asks your age and it gives you videos in a cohort so I don't see any 13yr olds... I rarely see 18-20 yr olds. I mostly see 30 & up.. there's A LOT of seniors who use TikTok.

@@JonathanSterlingUSA Its shocking. Im impressed by how motivated these people are, and terrified. We , the people may have to defend.

What's so great about Tik-Tok?

Yeah, but giving the government power to control such things is giving that power to your enemy. Government is antithetical to individual liberty and the pendulum always swings. At some point that same power will be wielded by someone you disagree with.

I’m not with him. He’s a lunatic to not realize the anti western propaganda being spread to our youth is a serious issue. The Chinese understand very well what this is doing… look up Churchill’s speech explaining how the Marxists will exploit the freedoms we have in liberal societies…

Privacy should matter too of course, but first thing first, we know the CCP and other authoritarian dictatorships exploit the freedoms via tik tok to our young generations to gain western sympathy for their chosen causes or to cause brainwashing here. It seems like common sense to get rid of it. In fact, we could use stronger international firewalls in America. We have a very open vulnerable network.

Weird. read this article. "Rand Paul backed by GOP donor with $33B TikTok stake" If you dont think rand is being dishonest then read it. Its super easy to find

I can see his point on freedom of speech but they should be able to be sued for their propaganda.

I agree that should be the concern but it didn't seem to me that Rand is really making that point.

Over 100,000 children were killed in Nigeria. You have a good point.

NIGERIA is another country. The parties democrar or republican or progressive are for our country. Please take it up in the vatican regarding this issue.

Because THEY are not the chosen ones!

Because Israel Is God’s Covenant People, He who touches Israel touches the Apple of His Eye, that’s what the Bible says, read the Bible. Israel is our number one ally!

God loves ALL PEOPLE!!

Why don't you go down to a local homeless shelter and try to 'talk' one of the addicts who objectively have ruined their lives due to addiction and see how well your best logic does against his addiction. You will be as successful as just passively trying to produce this 'culture' you are talking about because SM is set up to be addictive along with the content. We need to start considering many aspects of SM are the 'junk food' at best and 'crack cocaine' at worst of what is free speech. "The solution to bad speech is more speech" that is a phrase we need to reconsider what its assumptions were based on, we are now dealing with an addictive substance, the ability to 'unperson' you, destroy your 'social credit score' with ease, extremely short attention spans, ability to remain anonymous all of which is contributing to screwing up the next generation. You need to now accept you are dealing with atomic weapons as the analog if this was a 2nd Amendment discussion.

@@carlonardone2134 Better ration how much sugar you can consume in a week as well, right?

Your not paying attention

Because you don't even know. It is being in control by NSA.

Why RU-vid is allowed to block free speech and go against the 1st amendment is beyond me. Duh

Money money money

Its not banned because our president and other pllititions are counting their $ instead of protecting our country USA is on the way out its time to defend and protect our constitution against all enemeys Foreign and DOMESTIC be 4 its 2 late 😮

So does EVERY app.

​@@silververnallbells191Every App ain't Chinese Communist Party.

Then don't use it. Problem solved.

You're not banning free speech at all. You're simply banning a foreign company from spying on Americans. Banning free speech would be all social media apps. Do we not still have X, IG, Facebook, and dozens of other apps? It's a foreign spy agency

The issue is that the algorithm created don't show what you are talking about.

Do you not se a difference in the US having free speech and the chinese government promoting their values? Do you know that the chinese government doesnt allow free speech? You better think at least a one step deeper. Eliminating TikTok actually fights against ending free speech because once this communist nonsense takes over free speech is done. BTW no social media company other than Twitter allows free speech. They dont even allow pro american speech. China doesnt allow either. China only allows pro china speech. This isnt a fight for free speech. Its a fight against spying, data theft, and pro china propaganda to influence the american youth to hate the values of america in an effort to end american values

Obama abolished the Smith MUNDT act. Which allowed for the propaganda machine. To reinact this act would insure people are given the truth and still allow for free speech. Having to research everything they say is hard and we have to choose what’s the most important to research. Like Palestine. There has never been a Palestine. Only the labeling of the Roman Empire that Arafat hooked to for debate. The philistines is who the people were in that area near the canaanites . The territory was beat in war many times and overcame by many empires. All the artifacts for over 3,000 years are Jewish. Not one Palestinian artifact. And the Arabs themselves overcame that territory but refuse to let them into the 12 Arab nations. The reason is obvious.

Where are the other replies … what sensible sane suggestions a fabulous post thanks so much in furious agreement

I come down on the side of informing the people of the harm of TikTok and the parents of children need to restrict their children from using it. We cannot stop adults from being stupid!

​@@vonnano3561The people that is running this country isn't any smarter and their adults

Millions of users disagree with you.

It's nonsense, but like RU-vid if you create content and want to be paid the company will need identification and other personal info, like where to send the money.

To steal your identity and your money !

To the extent they even really are, it's for advertising. I love the self-importance of people who think the Chinese government gives a shit about them either way. You're all nobodies.

@@jake8855 ya, Spoken like a true nobody ! At least you know your nothing 😂😂😂😂😂

From the view of the CCP. Stick with the actual hearings that aren't populated by commentary. Watch the real deal as it happens.

Very well said.. 💯

True. But CCP? They know what they're doing and they are succeeding. It won't matter if warnings are available. Their target audience here is largely open and susceptible to influence. If we don't limit their influence- at some point it won't be the govt that we fear.

@@courtneybass I don't care if it's Russian, CCP, or the US government. I don't trust ANY government. But letting people know it's a threat and they choose to install or not knowing full well that their information is at risk with the app is the utmost protection for freedom and people's ability to decide what to do with their own data.

The problem with your argument is that TikTok is aimed at teenagers who are easily swayed, confused, brainwashed and manipulated. (No sensible adult would watch that shit for more than 5 seconds anyway.) Unlike adults, teenagers have limited or no legal responsibility for their actions. Some of them can't even read properly, but that's symptomatic of the American education system.

The problem with all of what you wrote only exposes how you totally ignored how the Chinese is gathering YOUR personal information without your permission and guess who also holds important information, your child, your wife, your close friends, your close family members. I mean, you say to each their own but if it affects your closest neighbors and allies, it’ll affect you.

Misplaced hopes and beliefs unfortunately

@@datacoderX Huawei is completely different than TikTok. We will find out soon since there are so states that want to test it. It will not work, but we will have evidence soon that it won't work.

He is not wrong

Right or wrong its never happening ... NEVER

Imagine backing tiktok on this issue. Not even because of the points mentioned here, but the amount of degeneracy that has been a result of it. I actually feel bad for anyone who thinks blocking it is somehow wrong.

Someone should have told that to the Israel-First House this morning before they censured Rashida Tlaib for insurrection and being pro-terrorism just like Pelosi, Graham and Wrey charge Trump and the J6 frame-up victims.

Hawley is a Trojan Horse, an Imposter, Traitor.

The problem is poor parenting, lack of communication and discussion with their children.

You're being paid by the Chinese communist government to write this. Do I have a shred of evidence? No. But it's exactly what you just accused Paul of. If you can't back it up don't post slander. You wouldn't appreciate it if it happened to you.

I really don't think so!

Unfortunately, TikTok is spying on Americans and conveying that information to China. I don't do FaceBook, period.

WTF... how do You conclude that...?? FYI - did You know Facebook was actually "LifeLog" which was created by DARPA... and NOT in a college dorm room by a nerd 🤓

😂 it's amazing to me you think that is what this is about.

The First Amendment only applies to Americans and not foreign entities

@JustMe-js8vc Honest question, but im confused, are you saying we should allow speech that enlists violence, in our nation, because the individual who posted it isn't sitting in the US? Or are you saying that we should ban TikTok because the people who own it are not US citizens, thus they are not protected by the 1st ammendment?

The First Amendment applies to everyone and everything inside the borders of this country. Hawley, though, it right. The speech that incites and promotes violence is wrong.

Correct. Other cultures feel it is not lting or being dishonest until your caught doing it. Thats why it's known as lost face? When their caught is the crime. The crime is being caught not the initial lie!

@@SilasMckeeIII no, I’m not implying that violent speech is protected speech. There are limits established by the US Supreme Court and as for banning Tik Tok or other foreign companies. I never said that. Tik Tok and others provide a forum for discussion and exchange of ideas and besides they are a platform to host content and not creators.