Please share your thoughts too!! Just remember we keep it honest around here, and we keep it respectful. Watch this to the end to hear my full thoughts. This is a spicy topic, always has been for Ghost Recon fans, so play nice. Let's all band together, hold our hands and yell "shitballs!" together.
Is breakpoint having a maintenance uplift? Budd... I've had nothing but connection issues for 20 mins now and quite frankly done with ubisofts server connection issues.. I've spent £300 on skins and customs and am minutes away from ramming a refund down there throats as I record everything for all issues that arise on game purchases for evidence reasons.. I learnt alot about it while buying on Pubg mobile and tencent being a bunch of plebs
Sounds like both are worth playing. But I always felt Wildlands is the more special somehow. Although I gaven okay d either. That's just my take from what I've seen and what people say about it.
Wildlands AI is trash tho, enemy predict your last location is BS, its make stealth not fun, and that tier one is add the BS to the next level, enemy could snipe you with smg wtf. Better fix the AI than using Wildlands or Breakpoint AI for the next game
@@ryndaman2855 enemy ai is pretty bad yeah. What i really meant was the ai teammates. The little conversations with them made them feel like actual teammates and not just ai there to help me syncshot enemies. Much better than breakpoints teammates to be honest.
@@chealy3030 no gonna lie, but i think the AI in GSFS was much smarter and challenging, though it could be argued that the game has a linear campaigns and maps, making it easier to program them.
The thing is, Breakpoint actually has a very good Tom Clancy worthy storyline. But it's mostly told via reading material and collectibles scattered around Aurora. Which lead to people actually hating the story and you can't blame them
I prefer Wildlands, although Breakpoint is good too. Imagine the atmosphere and immersion of Wildlands with the mechanics of Breakpoint, such as the melee animations, darker nights, etc.
wildllands felt like real world with real people bruh it felt like you were a real soldier liberating a narco country like in movies unlike breakpoint lmao it felt boring as fuck so many robotic shit that dont even make sense
@@colazarus7264Yeah. In Breakpoint you didn’t get to feel this guerilla warfare feel. While in Wildlands you needed to dismantle the cartel before El Sueno becomes vulnerable, in Breakpoint you can kill Walker instantly
i play wildlands over 300h to day dont even get bore but breaking point hardly can play more than 1 hour and yes still rant about it sniper is just shit in breaking point
Wildlands with Breakpoint's controls would be a dream to play. One thing I dislike about both though is bullet ballistics. In both games bullets travel super slow and will fly straight for 700 meters or so before they get magnetized to the ground. I get that it's to get you within the enemy detection range but I'd rather they just bump that up instead of making every gun feel like it's airsoft
I remember in Battlefield 3 I was getting 1100m snipes off the radio telecommunications tower in multiplayer…. But I can’t shoot past 700 years on/in an enormous sandbox island in Breakpoint?😂 The hardcore/ghost mode & custom settings can make the gameplay a lot more enjoyable, than GR:GTA. I do miss the mortar strikes.. so many games have removed “Spotters” or “Commander” position abilities in games & it’s sad.
What are you firing a .50 BMG in Wildlands? What round out of what gun flies straight for 700m? I think WLs has easy to understand and good ballistics, "bullet go down after 100 meter" (for 762, 556, and a few others at least) basically, after 200~ that drop increases exponentially, in Breakpoint I fire 762 that shit is in the ground before 100 meters while aiming straight in a field. Edit: hell at this point I'm not even sure I'm playing the same game, what did the Microsoft Store pull a fast one on me or something?
What I absolutely loved about Wildlands was that it made me feel like an operator in a third world country. The architecture of the buildings and the layout of the map made it much more immersive in that regard. Breakpoint had way more immersive animations and sound design but all of the futuristic technology and architecture just didn’t make it feel real.
Some Wildlands encounters, especially once Unidad reinforcements rock up, can be epic battles for survival. I do feel that infiltrating a Breakpoint facility can be much harder than in Wildlands. The need to hide bodies to maintain your stealth can be critical. Both of these games are great fun.
The hiding bodies part is just exactly like Sniper Elite 5 (and previous titles that features those mechanics). It’s there but not really as a needed basis for difficulty or challenge. Which it isn’t that important in the game overall unless if you are planning for complete ghost kills and what not.
I was on wildlands last night and saw a unidad soldier sweeping the floor 😮 where as in breakpoint they just repeat the same patrols and lines and don't even sleep when it's night time
I saw one doing lines of cocaine. And then I watched a narco talking to another one about his new tatoo on his back and when i killed him it had his little girls name on it with angel wings. I was like f***** breakpoint after that
An idea here. If you combine wildlands atmosphere of life, land and map design, characters and bosses with breakpoints style of gameplay, realism, customization, and free dlc like operation motherland, you’d get a pretty good ghost recon game. I like both but wildlands is a bit more fun.
Honest opinion, if the two games had swapped release dates and Wildlands had the graphics and customization of Breakpoint, as well as maybe the class system, it could have been one of the biggest games on the market. Like 65% of breakpoint players are solely there for the RP that Breakpoint allows you to do, and if Wildlands had those elements it would be massive
@@9895_I don't play Wildlands and only play breakpoint because of the RP, unfortunately Wildlands is just a game, breakpoint can be a simulator if you follow some rules
@Joshua-by4dc ...what RP elements does Breakpoint have that Wildlands doesnt? Enemy bases to raid, customizing your gun, customizable HUD, stealth mechanics, they share the same, and Wildlands is almost better because there are 1. an actually realistic amount of enemies, 2. the enemies are more intelligent, and 3. there are no futuristic drones, no soldiers that can go invisible, no UAVs flying overhead, just you and your guns vs them and their guns
9 months late but i honestly can't really choose i've always had this discussion with my friends about "do you prefer wildlands or breakpoint" and, at first, i will always say wildlands just because the world feels more alive. your AI teammates and their conversations, the civilians driving around the map, the unidad patrols and then getting into a max unidad reinforcement fight for your life is always awesome. calling in mortars on them while rebel reinforcements arrive to help you, it feels great the stealth being 1 hit kills imo doesn't matter too much, because the idea of having to shoot, say, 10 rounds in my 30 round mag to kill 1 dude, and there's 5 of them in an area, isn't very fun to me because it means i'd have to wait for them to split up, into much more inconvenient areas, then take the remaining ones out and even THEN, risk getting spotted due to the gun making considerable noise even with suppressors the animations in breakpoint to me also feel like shit - your character doesnt turn with your camera when walking, when prone this means you cant aim between your legs which also looks and feels pretty cool, the jogging animation in breakpoint feels VERY stiff and linear, as far as i can remember you also can't slow walk in breakpoint like you can in wildlands, you can't holster your gun, it just feels alot more boring and stiff, as if they couldn't afford to get better/more animations character customization - i'd say breakpoint wins, not much to say there, but in both games it seems the majority of character models are asian/asian-americans which is a little strange, not in any racist way, just feels odd how there's like 1 or 2 character models that don't look like asians, not alot of variety imo the missions in breakpoint also feel so fucking confusing to me. wildlands you have all the missions for all the different bosses in their respective province, but the missions come in a linear format, and i'm pointed TO MY MISSION. in breakpoint, not only are there seemingly 1 OR MORE main missions (my own experience), they're not really province specific, it's not like you go to [province], finish all the missions there, then go to the next province repeat. not to mention the fact that there's a damn HIDE AND SEEK MINIGAME? hello?? "[X] is in [Y] province to the northeast of [obscure landmark]" now for some game mechanics prone camo (breakpoint) - absolute win for breakpoint, feels awesome to pull off properly thermal imaging drones/helicopters (breakpoint) - fucking annoying. hate them, i'm on my way up a god damn mountain and i'm in such a spot that i cant really prone or prone camo, so i'm fucked unidad patrols (wildlands) - alot of fun, relatively easy to avoid but fun to shoot down and can lead to some cool shootouts with unidad and rebels classic helicopter controls (wildlands) - i prefer these over new so much more, guns become challenging to use, sure, but that's the fun part, AND flying with them looks and feels cooler and smoother thank you for reading this essay (assuming you did, anyway)
Something fun in Wildlands is that you could steal faction vehicles and not be detected. We played co-op and my friend stole a Santa Blanca vehicle, I stuck a bunch of C4 to it, and he drove it right into the base undetected and parked next to the generator lol. He went stealth mode and started killing guys, when he eventually got detected, I denoted the C4, the base went dark, called rebels, motor, etc. Wildlands combat was absolute mayhem and fun. One of the few games where when you blow stealth, it doesn't feel like you have to reset and try again, because going loud was just as fun. You could be really creative using faction vehicles, rebels, etc. and have a lot of random chaotic moments.
Both are incredibly beautiful. BP is smooth, and it doesn’t launch trash cans around stumbling into them. However, WL you can 1-3 tap an Enemy, makes it feel a little more immersive in combat. I enjoy both minus the robotic enemies in BP.
Breakpoint is mechanically better, but Wildlands does a way better job with immersion and storytelling. I would love it if down the line they could release an anniversary edition or something that brings Breakpoint’s mechanics and level of polish to Wildlands’ setting and plot.
Or they copy paste Breakpoint onto a huge expansive map of Mexico, put more time/effort into the multiplayer and slap Wildlands 2 on it. I'd be perfectly happy if they could handle that without screwing it up at this point.
Pretty much agree with all of your points on both games. However, Breakpoint is the superior game for me. Wildlands was fun for it's time but feels dated now. The customization of gameplay styles in Breakpoint is fantastic and contributes heavily to it's longevity for me. A few things I miss from Wildlands are the Unidad mechanic, the rebel support, and the livelier environment but those aren't enough to put the game over the top for me though. Here's a playstyle I developed in Breakpoint if your interested. It's good for the "Survivor Mode/Lone Ghost" players. - Start an new game on Immersive Mode with Extreme Difficulty. No HUD or very limited HUD. One primary weapon, few bandages, injuries on high. - DO NOT select any Class or skills. Zero. So, no Parachute or Night Vision throughout the entire game and extremely limited crafting. - No vehicle spawning or fast travel (unless your stuck in the map). If you want to fly a Helicopter you have to steal one. Same for vehicles. Also, all vehicles have fuel or power. Ranging from 5-10 minutes depending on the vehicle. Small helicopter is 5 mins. Bigger one is 10, for example. - AI Teammates. If you want to use AI Teammates you first have to "rescue" them from Wolf Encampments that are holding Outcasts. - You can only change your weapons and gear at Erewhon (via their 3D printer and supplies) or stuff you've taken off dead Wolves, Sentinels, and Outcasts. Weapons, backpacks, vests, clothes, etc. - Dress for the weather. T-shirts, tank tops, and rolled up sleeves when its warm, jacket, scarves, and gloves for the cold, etc. - Crafting can only be done in Erewhon or a bivouac. If you run out of bandages during a firefight...oh well. - Backpacks. If your using a backpack you have access to your entire inventory. If you're not wearing one you only have access to what's on your inventory wheel. So plan accordingly if you want to sneak into a base with an ultra low profile. - Food. This is optional really. You can eat and drink at a bivouac for that extra bit of immersion. This style requires a LOT of discipline to say the least. It can be very tempting to break the rules at first but after a while it becomes more natural and you may end up restricting yourself more, like only being able to steal a helicopter if there is a Bagman on the base that has the "keys" and you'll need to kill him first! ;)
100% agree. I think most people pick Wildlands for nostalgia & the bad press breakpoint had at one time. Other than a few shortcomings Breakpoint is so much better in every way.
This is how I started playing coming from wildlands because I found the game too easy at first… full immersion injury always highest difficulty no hud, most of the other rules you stated, except no drone use, binoculars for recon or scopes, and no silencer on primary weapon. If you want to stealth you have to get close enough to use the pistol. Really gives a good immersive challenge.
The no class chosen idea is super dope. I just got onto that same vibe starting a new game last week. Typifies the class as “Soldier” by-default. I appreciate the actual gameplay restrictions this style implies. The no HUD gets to be a problem for me when some weapon crates don’t actually display what’s inside them (which is a bug) and it says is to take the weapon or dismantle them. And the fickle context of Allied commands, alongside untying prisoners, who are next-to devices to investigate etc. And getting-into vehicles is still harder than it should be because the context windows of their functions appeared overlapped. And the objective markers to talk to people and complete missions. Should’ve given everyone a radio, stop wasting time to globetrot for boring cutscenes. Lol. If only they made things just a little tighter.. like all the laser pointers that were never zeroed to the crosshair.
I've played around with the spartan mod and most of your gunfights have longer distance from each other. The spartan mod doubles the engagement distance and the detection range so I'm having a lot of tree line fights. The mod really leans into the "the hunter is hunted" theme that ubi was initially going for. The mod also extends most gun's range so there's less of the sudden drop off for bullets in the vanilla version. Supersonic rounds and supersonic rounds now also play a roll as firing a suppressed AR in the base will put them in an alert phase while subsonic rounds are quieter but is still pretty loud. Overall I really recommend the spartan mod to anyone who wants a sorta arcadey mil-sim sandbox shooter.
I really love the Weapons, Character Customization, And how the stealth just feels so good in Breakpoint. Around the only thing that don't like in Breakpoint is the lack of civilian presence, Civilians are driving around like in wildlands, Yeah I get that a bunch of civilians would probably be scared if an armed militia is on the island but They would still have to go out and do things.
I jus finished wildlands loved it jus started breaking point so question…it’s asking me to pick an experience (immersive or regular) which one will be similar to wild land?
Civilian life being minimal fits the plot , Auroa is a newly developed tech research island that went dark to the outside world and is under control by a rogue advanced military group that KILL anybody trying to leave by drone swarm were not exactly supposed to mingle with the locals this is not Hawaii. Anybody living there is either a scientist or investor. (All under control by sentinel) The Homesteaders live in a self sufficient community inside a mountain and the outcast live in hiding too. It’s a military checkpoint every mile and patrols all over the place it’s meant to be a hostile environment at all times and Ubisoft actually knocked it out of the park with that.
@@TheAverageGamer24 That is true and I do respect them for that. Although the boss fight is underwhelming and bad. No reason for it to exist, except they could’ve made him more tactical and not depend on plot armor….
@@killertruth186 I agree ! I would’ve preferred a boss fight that instead of an actual “fight” we are required to apprehend Walker from heavily guarded base. Or if there is a fight make give us some actual hand to hand combat mechanics but actual Boss fights don’t belong in GR period, headshots should kill people and that should be it😂.
Wildlands story etc is better but playing Breakpoint is better. I love that wildlands had a lot of civilians and a lot of the enemies blended in with them too. Both are very fun. Best tactical shooters out and have been for a while now
Well said and great explanation about both games. Personally I think the reason why it takes 3 to 5 shots center mass for a breakpoint enemy to go down, is because the villains in Breakpoint and X special force’s soldiers VS on Wildlands that are drug gangs except the Bolivian military. The X special forces will have upgraded chest and body armor. That’s why the developers said that a head will always take them down.
How wildlands sets up the story, the missions, and the cutscenes is definitely infinitely better than breakpoint. Breakpoint was a jumbled mess and gave me out of context cutscenes with spoilers shortly after recovering from the helicopter wreck… it was a confusing and frustrating start to the game until I realized what was actually being triggered and how… but by that point the damage was already done and parts of the story already ruined. Breakpoint handed out quests and missions MMO style whereas wildlands felt like a natural and WELL EARNED progression. Wildlands world is also way more “alive” then breakpoints…. Moving through the big cities and starting fire fights around all those civilians really added an entirely different dynamic than breakpoint can offer…. Yeah they have some non combatants in breakpoint but not nearly at the same scale…. It’s world is empty, and pretty much anything you come across that’s moving is ok to shoot. Gameplay, gunplay, graphics all go to breakpoint, but wildlands isn’t far enough behind to make that the determining factor in my opinion…. To me wildlands is definitely the superior all around game.
I love Wildlands for its map, story, characters and world building. But Breakpoint, newer game, of course has better gameplay and graphics...if they combine the two, it'd be a perfect game.
I love the way Breakpoint feels and the multiple options. my biggest issue (and this is big) is the ballistics. breakpoint after what feels like 200m, that bullet DROPS. like gravity just sucks that round into oblivion. wildlands nailed that when your trying to determine bullet drop, it was just so consistent. the other major point is the location, I miss the local populace and vibe of a country.
wildlands map is so beautiful, sometimes i wander around find elegant locations and its always beautiful each time when you come at a different weather or climate
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again: I love both but if Wildlands had the game play and movement mechanics of Breakpoint, I’d never play another game 👍🏼
Breakpoint just feels lifeless compared to Wildlands. The utility is cool, but ultimately, it's a videogame, and Wildlands was built to be more dynamic and unpredictable. Love the animations, but it's not enough to keep BP installed longer than a week.
Wildlands os not a real ghost recon game, ghost recon was always a tactic shooter, Wildlands is very frustrating when you try to play tactically, breakpoint is much more tactic
@@Joshua-by4dcIdk I had a blast playing it tactically. One thing that annoyed me with wildlands was not being able to relocate bodies, but enemies could FIND bodies. I had some real nailbiter moments in that game. I got bored in like 1 hour playing breakpoint, the gameplay and the way you got new equipment just threw me off and I stopped playing it right there.
Hoping the next GR takes the best elements from both games and improves significantly, maybe bring in some Ground Branch style customization for vest or helmets. They could seriously go all out, especially with the way how Ubi devs finally are able to have control over their games now and aren't being 100% controlled by greedy higher ups. Depending on if Assassins Creed Mirage is what fans are wanting, it could prove that Ubi is becoming what they once were. I'm hoping for that, but Ubi has been way too disappointing almost the whole past decade which is crazy to think about.
Really ever since the 360/PS3, Ubi has been shaky. Tom Clancy brand especially. GRAW, Future Soldier, and Vegas were fine but a far cry from the original Ghost Recon or the first three Rainbow Six games. Double Agent was a great Splinter Cell game, everything since has been bad or mediocre. Breakpoint and Wildlands are at least somewhat faithful to the original vision of the series, Ghost Recon fans have had it the best.
@irvinglambert9316 I thought Splinter Cell: Conviction (and even Blacklist after) was the last really good Ubi Tom Clancy stealth, apart from Ghost Recon. Both Wildlands and Breakpoint to an ever greater degree bring me back to those times when stealth felt good, and satisfying. The only other time I got the same feeling was playing Metal Gear Solid V: Phantom Pain
@@gabrielgiron4273 Splinter Cell is my favorite series. If you've never played the earlier games, I could understand that perspective. Conviction is barely a stealth title, more a Jason Bourne/Mel Gibson revenge movie on bath salts. Story decisions in that game really messed up the series. Blacklist is okay, and tries to make the Conviction style systems work. Just doesn't compare to what came before. Reason the series is doormat is because those two games didn't leave the series anyway to go. Series would be in a much better place if it built off of Double Agent.
Definitely Wildlands, that game is far more superior. Especially cause the game is completely yours and playable on and offline. Unlike Breakpoint, which requires internet connection even just to play the damn thing alone.
I think it’s safe to say for me that in terms of how many hours I have on both games I prefer Breakpoint because I play it more often than Wildlands however that doesn’t mean Wildlands is a bad game. Oh no, i would love Breakpoint to have Wildlands more rich and active world full of civilians moving around everywhere then in just random locations. And I’d also love it if Sentinal and the Wolves gave a bit more of a challenge like the Santa Blanca cartel. Each has a preference for different types of players and that’s the beauty of both.
Neither are perfect and I've been on this topic myself because I've been a huge fan of wildlands. Breakpoint was jarring. It felt like wildlands had more character, charisma, ambience and overall fun. It was way prettier, the character were dynamic and unique, Sueno was a boss. Breakpoint didn't really feel as immersive and rural as Wildlands did. It felt like I was in a rainforest in Wildlands, it just felt like random scenery in breakpoint. The stealth was in my opinion way better in wildlands, as were the weapons. Pros about breakpoint: Holt is in there, the main antag was compelling...robots are kinda cool, as are the mud interactions. rpgs are something i wanted in wildlands. Overall, Wildlands just had a soul.
Love the channel & the community man, been on GR & R6 since early 2000's. I'm enjoying breakpoint rn but sometimes hop to Wildlands still, both gonna be relatively timeless imo
Their is no competition, Wildlands is better in pretty much every single way. Wildlands world feels real and immersive while bp feels like an obvious fake vide game world, typical modern ubisoft world, like a movie set. After putting hundreds of hours into breakpoint, it has indeed grown sour to me. Breakpoint just still feels so soulless to me after all these updates. I still play it from time to time but wildlands has never been deleted off my system, breakpoint has, many, many times. I also feel like wildlands is just has way better atmosphere and it's just more immerisve. My favorite goes in the series are Ghost recon 1, 2, both Graw games, and wildlands. Breakpoint isn't the worse game of all time but it's just not as good as wildands in any way in my opinion. Great video man, love hearing everyone's thoughts.
Same I keep coming back to Wildlands I feel like brokenpoints world is just empty and boring don’t get me wrong the gameplay is smooth but just not good enough to bring me back.
@@antonio3789 It feels like the first ever Ghost Recon game to be made by an A.I. it just feels like it has no soul. I have tried to learn to love breakpoint so many Tim's but I just can't. Something is just seriously off with it. Maybe if I had it on pc and was able to mod it, it might be different but I don't have time or money for a proper PC so I mainly just play on console. I know that they are gonna bring it back and hit that home run whenever the new Ghost Recon "over" releases If the new game fails as well, then I guess it's "Over"... Sorry for the bad joke lol
Completed Wildlands,, loved it, played it twice actually on different difficulty levels. Breakpoint I gave up with. Felt unrealistic. In Wildlands you felt like you were in a special operations/forces group. Very tactical.
I actually play both I just view it as I am a ghost agent that sometimes gets deployed in Bolivia or a tropical island for missions. They are both amazing games.. as far as the prone position covering in mud for camo. The prone position works much in the same way for wild lands they just don't have the animation. But the detection from the enemy is similar.. but thanks for the video
The longest shot i took in Wildlands was 1100 meters.That was limited later so at about 800 meters the enemy had no hitbox. If i could take just one thing from break point to wildlands, it would be tossing shells for distraction.
This just randomly showed up in my recommended and im so glad it did. Not only do you articulate your points so well, but it's clear that you speak with genuine love for these titles. I could feel the passion and appreciation i wish more gaming communites had that. Great video.
The wildlands map, gameplay (as in the actual gunfights whether it be quiet or loud), and world design is so much better imo. I love the colors, the different "regions", the elevations, etc. Breakpoint in every region and every base feels so similar. I still enjoy it, but I'm bored at 150 hours into breakpoint. I can still play wildlands and have a great time and I have over 400 hours. They both do certain things better but I personally prefer willdands, except the stealth before it going bad. Stealth before it goes bad is better in breakpoint by far. edit: Just got to the part about wildlands being your favorite as well. You nailed it. Breakpoint feels like a GAME but wildlands feels like a WORLD. If you get what I mean.
Completely opinion based but for me wildlands was way better, it just felt a lot more realistic and enjoyable. I just felt like the breakpoint story was painfully corny to the point where I didn’t even want to play it anymore. I did enjoy some of the abilities like camouflaging yourself in mud or snow but wildlands felt like an adventure and really made you feel like a soldier.
9:35 "...Breakpoint built to be more of a stealth game...Wildlands is more of the typical Ghost Recon experience..." I'd def agree (for the most part) with this^. Whenever I try to play Breakpoint in a classic "Ghost Recon" way, I always end up just subconsciously reverting to a "Splinter Cell" type of playstyle...which I mean isn't necessarily a bad thing (Splinter Cell being my fav Ubisoft franchise); but, I wish Breakpoint would encourage/strong-arm me into a more squad-based tactical shooter playstyle/mindset, especially in a way like GRAW2 does to this day. Speaking of GRAW2... 12:43 "...in Wildlands it's a much clunkier experience...every game will get clunkier as it ages...Wildlands is like 7 years old now...even when you look at GRAW1 or 2...still a great time" I've yet to put in a good chunk of time in Wildlands (its been a few years now, under 20 hours played), but from what I've seen from ur vids and from my time played, I'd say the movement and animation from Wildlands (and even Breakpoint) are WORSE than GRAW2's (maybe also GRAW1's) Single-player movement/animation; HOWEVER, both games feel on-par, if not better, than GRAW2's multiplayer movement/animation (as the multiplayer for GRAW2 was worked on from a different branch of Ubisoft, or dev entirely). Another awesome/interesting video of thoughts/discussion, Thunder :) Keep the top-tier uploads coming!! Vid Request: Next GRAW2 video, when? O.o
Ay I appreciate your time typing this out 😁 thanks! Ooooh yea, i think you and i, and a good handful of others who drop by this channel know what you're talking about when you mention the graw coop modes movement 👌 I think the reason why the graw games single-player movement felt good was because the cover system and easy to use commands (strictly speaking about the console version) At this point, I'm just so used to the way they all play now it's like i can slip in to each game and know what im getting myself into (im sure you're the same) you def get me. I shouod really visit graw again for a video you're right... been too long
I’m gonna have to say WildLands. AI’s teammates have conversations with one another more than breakpoint. In fact I don’t even think they even talk at all making it get boring faster. Breakpoint is clean however, Breakpoint would slightly be better. I just find myself grow bored after time since no one talks about anything. If you play wild lands you will notice your AI teammates talking about stories. Keeps me more in tuned with the game.
Excellent breakdown of both games, you covered all the points that matter to most of us. Breakpoint is a great game, it's feel is so much better than Wildlands, better weapons, better clothing, better weapon upgrades etc...even love the classes to be honest although, Pathfinder over all! Wildlands story and general immersion is king though, Breakpoint feels like a ghost island, Wildlands feels like a land that's lived in. Overall though, Breakpoint is the game i'll play when I want to shoot shit, it's simply more fun for me.....just wish we could combine the best of both lol...maybe one day. Great vid Thunder, enjoyed the comparison. :)
Personally I think Breakpoint is the best third person military game anyone could ever ask for. I know the story ain’t that great, but the mechanics of motion, the stealth aspect, the gear, the uniforms, the camouflage patterns, the laser pointing, it’s everything we ever dreamed of. Ever since we were kids we played Metal Gear Solid, COD and all these other military games searching for that one that combines everything, and for me Breakpoint does that.
As someone who has not played Breakpoint, it didn't look like something i wanted to play, but has played Wildlands i must say i do like the models that Breakpoint has, weapons, uniforms, body armours and plate carriers, etc, some animations are nice as well, and a few game features from what i've seen.
The biggest thing for me is I like the look of the gear in Wildlands a lot more and it doesn't remove anything in cutscenes. I have never been able to make an outfit in Breakpoint I've ever been satisfied with.
Interesting video well done thanks. I played wildlands first loved every minute of it so bought breakpoint and immediately the camera felt off like i couldn't see what i was doing but i got use to that pretty quick. I was much more comfortable in wildlands but breakpoint is definitely a higher quality game overall. Maybe if i had played breakpoint first i would have had a different experience with wildlands. If i had to choose only one wildlands for sure.
Ya know... I actually love both games. Breakpoint hurt me bad on release but its really grown on me recently as I've given it another shot. Wildlands will always be my favorite as well. Its such a solid and complete game! Although I can't deny that BP is a damn good time. Both games will keep me coming back for years. I really hope they bring their A game with the next release. Great video bud.
@@thedarkknightman6150 That's a good point and something I've thought about since release. I mostly play games offline an the sad truth is that when the serves shut down, it's over, unlike wildands and all previous ghost recon games (Minus ghost recon phantoms) it will be a sad day because when that day comes the game will officially become just a memory. Its really is sad to think about.
@@Kane.JimLahey. i got BP for a cheap price and this will be the only online game I will ever buy my life. I will not by OL SP only games that i will lose in the future. I will miss breakpoint too but at least we have wildlands I will have that and Metal Gear Solid 5 will be the only tactical military open World Games I'll play
@@thedarkknightman6150 I feel the same way mister. I mostly still play on my Xbox 360 because I don't care for online. It is good to know that MgsV & Ghost Recon Wildlands will live on and be able to be preserved. Sad to think that so many young folks these days will never be able to re-experince their favorite games because most of them are online required. Really kinda sad. Long live physical copies.
They are both a joy to relax with.. the only up to break point that wild lands lacks is vegetation cover.. especially further up tier you go.. Imagine rocking ghillies and being spotted through thick forestry and wild grass.. GR:SANDBOX needs to go to central Europe for wet marshland and mountainous scenery.. not saying just Germany but NE-SE regions aswell like GR:FS
I overall prefer wildlands, after having played all of both's content. I just think the setting and environments of Bolivia pulled me in way more than Aurora and all the superclean techy aesthetic with all these drones everywhere. I also think it's more interesting to try to cross a town to get to an intel cache with random civilians wandering around, making picking out the sicarios more difficult. The whole "martial law, everyone stay indoors" story beat in Breakpoint REALLY hamstrings the experience when you know EVERYONE not in a warehouse is going to be a hostile combatant. There's never a reason to confirm targets, just shoot anything on two legs. I do still think the other mechanics in Breakpoint are a flat upgrade, minus the AI. The injury system, inventory, prone camo, etc, are basically flat upgrades. My ideal game would be plot/setting/aesthetic/world and mission design of Wildlands, but with some of the more notable features of Breakpoint. I want the camo and the injury system but I want the AI to be more aggressive like it was in Wildlands. In Breakpoint the enemies are super passive. In Wildlands, if you sit still for a couple of seconds, the cartel members will RUSH you. It makes it more intense and difficult in Extreme difficulty. In Breakpoint you can just hang back most of the time and be fine. Hell, the few times the enemies DO try to actually go after you and throw a grenade or something catch you so off guard because its so rare. Also I don't really care for the Class system in Breakpoint. It's barely noticeable in gameplay besides your main skill, and I think it's overall needless. I think what I'd do instead is limit the maximum number of skill points the game gives you so you can't just blanket get every skill. Use the skill tree system with limited skill points to make players specialise in their own "classes" so to speak. Allow for presets/respec and you have a system that doesn't have class restricted abilities but still allows players (and those in co-op) to specialise in specific "roles" so to speak. Or you can go for a more "jack of all trades" approach and put skill points evenly. Decent in everything but not excelling in anything specific. I think that would work better.
Love your vids. Picked up wildlands last week. I held off years ago via reviews claiming it was a beautiful but empty world. Wtf were they on about! Lol. Anyway, only few hours in but its blown me away, always wanted a Sicario type game and this ones near perfection, for me at least.
Wildlands hands down. i played breakpoint at release so the lootbox elements although no longer there left a sour taste (blue gun > green gun), combat wise in Wildlands a headshot was a headshot. Plus i generally dont like fighting drones in modern games, i was disappointed that you couldn't shoot lights out & personally because of the sterile corporate nature of the buildings everywhere was everywhere
I bought both at the same time about a week ago, played wildlands first since everyone recommends it. I honestly find myself more immersed in breakpoint, from the movement to the stealth to the combat. I even felt the story was better. The enemies have conversations with each other, call-outs, it just feels gritty and fun.
Ive always preferred Breakpoint because it feels way nicer to play especially on console. Wildlands never got a fps boost so its locked to 30 even on Series X and PS5 so for those of us that dont have a PC Breakpoint easily feels the best to play. And the RPG aspects blend really well with the tactical options and really allows you to build your ultimate operator and i really dig that. I roleplayed as Jack from 13 hours the entire game and it felt so fluid and fun. Especially being able to upgrade weapons and stick to a weapon you enjoy instead of replacing every weapon with higher stats.
My only issue with break point was always how empty it felt, it made the game lack that extra aspect of civies running around or getting in the way, and something small, but holstering, made a huge difference to me personally as well
Yeah Wildlands felt more alive, gotta put that side arm up, or you'll scare the lil kids or nice bolivians selling fruit. 😊 I always put it up when walking thru towns.
At first, I thought that breakpoint would have better customization but in retrospect, it has worse customization. Wildlands has outfit options that are closer to real life. And this is really emphasized in the vests and backpacks. It shows that new isn’t always better in certain fields.
Just found your channel and like what I see, subscribed. As far as my opinion, I've played both Wildlands and Breakpoint extensively. But the one that always gets me to come back every few months is Breakpoint, I'm not sure what it is but it just feels so much more replayable. I really wish they'd add a Ghost Mode though, I know they've said they're done updating the game but it can't be that hard...
A very interesting "take" on both games. For me, on a PC w/ KB/M, Breakpoint doesn't feel as smooth, not when every two seconds in CQs or in a forest or amongst rocks, I'm getting stuck to an object. The worst being when attempting to quickly get in a vehicle to drive off - nope - stick to that darn door ... ATST in Wildlands yes indeed moving among objects or crouching isn't smooth either. Was surprised by the comments regarding sniping and distances in the two games - GRW with its horrible bullet drop is a huge disappointment, while in GRB it's actually doable to engage with long distance (game-wise) sniping. My bottom line between the two doesn't come down to gameplay (as I'm still playing both on a regular basis) but to the fact with GRW I can play off-line and not required to be hooked up to Ubisoft's servers for solo play with GRB. That's a very big plus in my book! :)
One thing I'd like to point out is that Breakpoint has "Always-Online DRM", which means the game will cease to function entirely whenever they stop supporting it with their servers. I looked it up and it seems that Ubisoft has mentioned their "attempts" at making offline work, but they essentially gave up and said it wouldn't work (which I think is completely false, knowing Ubisoft and big tech), however they have since improved PvE mode with its connection issues. If you're looking at these games because they're on sale, both go on sale at different times, and both go on sale for around 80%. At the time of me writing this comment, Breakpoint is $12 for the base game and $24 for the Ultimate Edition. Looking at the price history, it seems that Wildlands will be on sale during Steam's Winter sale. So you'll technically be able to buy both games at their most expensive editions, all for the price of what the original base game would be for either of them. I haven't played either yet and I'm new to Ghost Recon as a series, but this is just the information I have gathered thus far.
Only recently got into the ghost recon games, I love them both but definitely prefer breakpoint. I would argue graphics do have an impact on gameplay in these games specifically because theyre so immersive. The customizability of breakpoint is better too, one of my favorite things about ghost recon games is the ability of customizing my operator based on the environment and role im in.
in the Wildlands, first of all, Bolivia. Picturesque, diverse, captured by a drug cartel. and something is constantly happening, people are busy with their own affairs, go to the market, dry coca, listen to music and dance. Cars are constantly driving. Anyway, the world is alive, it's dead in the breakpoint. Ai Partners are also much better. they seem to be alive, they say where the enemy is, like look next to this pile of tires, at the entrance to the base, Leitech is leaving, etc . the physics of transport is better. and the transport itself does not matter. it's nice to arrange chases. there will also be better weather effects. if there is a storm, then it really feels like a storm. in a breakpoint like a toy
Thank you for taking the time to put this together, my guy. Looks like for me it'll be a Beers and Breakpoint weekend. One of my smaller complaints in WLs was the customization. Not so much the choice or lack of, I just could never get my dude to NOT look awkward. Some of the gear just didnt seem to fit right on the character model unless you use the complete costumes/themed gear, if that makes sense. After this video I reckon its worth having both games installed for different experiences (while trying to ignore all the "If only they incorporated such and such" moments) if you have the HDD space. WLs is 7 years old! WTF. I agree with you on the "something about WLs", specifically the world/environment that Ubi put together. Thanks again man. Edit: In relation to Ghost mode, I was save scumming due the bugs and bullsht deaths, so it felt almost redundant imo. Too often things out of my control lead to what felt like an unfair death.
@@GhostIslandThunder Little late to the party, but I must agree with your point about customization. I don't know what it is exactly, but my guy in WLs never looks "good". Always seems to look just a little off. Never a bad ass, but more of a weirdo
You can call in air strikes with the resistance launcher that you unlock and use it as any class in break point this video is amazing I want to play both games now
Good video convo! I found that Breakpoint also has the quieter pistol vs. primary firearm in close-range audibility detection. Also I like how in Breakpoint, the enemies don’t hone-in to your exact location when in-hiding, after dropping one-of theirs. It allows for more-interesting cat/mouse situations even when going-loud. The vehicle physics in Wildlands are way better. Enemy vehicles used as disguises are fantastic too. The injury system in Breakpoint was a fun idea. Would’ve made more sense if crafting was at bivouac only. Squad AI unreliable for precision I feel. Both games carry way too much ammo lol. Playing Breakpoint without choosing a class I found limits gameplay variety in interesting ways. Breakpoint aged better than I anticipated.
One element l really liked about breakpoint was the loot it felt nice when I didn’t have to pay 10 buck to wear some cool clothing and all I had to too was go to a location on the map fight a couple enemies and then just look around
Yeah, no. Wildlands looks better! I'm sorry, but everything in Breakpoint looks plastic. The clothing has this really weird texture too! Wildlands clothing gets dusty, and it looks realistic! Same goes in wet weather. As far as gameplay goes, I'd say Wildlands is better in that department too! The only thing Breakpoint does better gameplay wise, is the movement mechanics. Being able to move on a six axis is so much better! Although, once you get used to Wildlands, It's not all bad. Story wise, Wildlands is better. Far more cohesive, and Drones don't exist. Thank God! I like that you can remove backpacks in Breakpoint, as well as blouse boots, but it means absolutely f*cking nothing when you have an ugly "battle belt" around your waist. Wildlands is just a tighter experience.
Breakpoint for overall gameplay Wildland for overall Story and world Concept. Breakpoint story was cool if it was executed well but Wildlands is so more realistic as I feel like I’m in Narcos or Sicario but Breakpoint it’s weird. I hope they combined what makes both good and make a more lively world and smarter AI Teammates. Issue I had with both: Wildlands felt to clunky and the character skeleton and the way clothes fit on the body was odd to me and I didn’t like the small variety I saw myself wearing the skins more and singular outfits more, Breakpoint felt to empty with all the tech around and the apparent no fly zone I found myself FLYING to every location cause the world was just to empty, civilian design was bland and location felt empty even when there was people they felt more like props than actual people living on the island and the mixed of indigenous architecture and modern was neat but i didn’t see the point of it since we see no natives and everyone dresses like they are from Panera, and the faces, wish there was better diversity cause what we got looked like potato and the facial hair/hair option should’ve been touched up, the fact they started the game with no team Ai and when they add them like some big thing they too play like potato. Combat was peak but hard to natural have every immersive play through felt forced because there simply wasn’t any link of government involvement besides the ghost being there wish we would get debriefs in detail of the people instead of having to play Clue and look every corner of the map to find
I honestly enjoyed both. My only issue with Breakpoint was the pacing. I thought with the Wolves, that the game should be faster. You have an elite force coming after you. A large elite force (there is one recoverable message where Walker comments on his backers wanting at least 200 Wolves trained - at a $million per Wolf). I felt the game should have had you constantly at risk if you stayed too stationary for too long with only Erewhon or the Bivouacs being safe.
Really hope they can take the best of both games and create a masterpiece for a new Ghost Recon. I miss the feel of Wildlands world, like you're deployed in a sandbox hostile country where you can do almost anything. Bring breakpoint gameplay and controls and take everything to the next level.
Also hard to compare these two, good points for both. Breakpoint feels so limited next to how expansive Wildlands is, it took a few things and made them amazing, but leaves much to be desired. I play Wildlands way more but always wish I could have the camo and camping/survival systems along with the updated controls.
the main problem that i hated in Breakpoint is that your character personalization wasn't as much and when you went into a safe room your guy took his helmet off and broke the immersion from being a unknown solder and trying to keep your face covered to here's bob so if you wanna betray him you know what he looks like. The cut-screens ruined my immersion in game forcing my character to remove his helmet i like having my helmet and full face mask keep my identity private im behind enemy lines. The world felt so empty i would drive for 5 km and feel bored vs wildlands i had radio and i had civilians and stuff and shit on the road the world felt alive and i would stop to take photos and put them on my steam artwork page. for me the perfect Tom Clancy game: the world of wildlands and the AI and the character customization in terms of voice lines and skin color male to female all those rpg type elements of character customization and having that custom character keep his uniform on fully in cutscenes while having the gun play and customization from breakpoint the art style the camos the uniforms the detail but non of the weapon leveling and gear score stuff that ruined immersion even more.
Also being hunted by the wolves on realistic difficulty is awesome! I love the feeling of being hunted in breakpoint and the injury system is great! If they ever made a third game I would love for them to double down on these features.
Wildlands w every mechanic that Breakpoint has improved, it will be the best. Breakpoint just lack the life of the world that Wildlands has that makes it relatable in real life
I remember playing the original 2 on the PS2 days, used to love how tactical the games are. Only recently I’ve discovered breakpoint purely because it was on sale and 30 year old me was having flashbacks to playing a lot of Tom Clancy titles way back in day. This game blew my mind mainly through it gameplay. The fact I can pretty much play how I want, and the open world feels endless to me which is good! I can play as quiet as a mouse, or go in gun blazing, play coop with people or AI. I can always play as tactical as I want and the fact I get options on how I want to play. Obviously I started with the whole gear system but after getting used to the controls and maybe after 100 hours I switched to Immersion gameplay and honestly I don’t think I can go back to the gear system. Yes I’ve died a lot but I get an enjoyment clearing out places through complete stealth. I’ve yet to do raids I have no idea what they are. But overall it’s a fantastic game to just chill out and play after a hard shift! I will get round to playing Wildlands as I’ve met someone on this game and he’s telling me how amazing Wildlands can be, so I’m excited to try it but obviously I can tell from this video that I will enjoy it but I feel like I’d still enjoy Breakpoint better.
Even after 60 hours I do not have a good feel for the world in Breakpoint, while I love the world and map in WIldlands. I don't say Breakpoint looks and feels the same everywhere, because it is wrong, but the way map in Wildlands has this clear sense of different areas works way better. One of the main reasons is that you can follow a line of story missions in that area instead of running around the map for all the different stuff. It makes it harder to feel like getting to know one area after another (if you play like that)
I'm sure u probably just missed this. But breakpoint also included the gunsmith where u could clean ur gun. And if u didn't at least to me it seemed if u didn't clean ur gun it would start to miss shots
In breakpoint you can shoot legs to interrogate, or knock out someone in cover and comeback later to interrogate. I really like that you can grab someone for faster removal of the body than if you were dragging him dead.
Yeah I think breakpoints driving mechanics in wildlands would be a treat. Wildlands has the best map of any video game in my opinion its criminally underated. Also both games have one feature that annoys me, why does the character move so slowly whilst your aiming down sights. Be better if you made haste whilst aiming kinda like snake does in metal gear 5.
1:41 wolves take more body shots bc of their atom or but a headshot takes off their helmet and leaves them vulnerable to being dropped with the next shot. It reminds me of the bullet resistant armor enemies in John Wick.
Just started this again after beating it a while ago. Took me me 4 times to do one of the first faction missions on the hardest difficulty. For me it's usually missing one head shot on last bullet allowing the bad guy to shoot me then I get injured and can't even run away lol.
If they find a way to take the best from both worlds most FPS will have a problem keeping up. If they find a way to make the CQC more like Division or RB6 Vegas then it would be unmatched. Everything else seems to be in a league of it's own which is good. But indoors should be a little more tactical like stack, breach and clear etc.
@@Whiterun_Gaurd I know ! Imagine that CQB in Wildlands or Breakpoint.. I feel like the only thing those games were missing were doors and the stack and clear etc. Should be able to repel on and off rooftops too.. Not just climb ladders to scale buildings. Next game , we should have to do recon on the outside , clear it out and then recon inside (similar to Siege) and then clear out the inside of buildings too... Not just walk through doors ways without doors or sliding doors
IMO: Wildlands environment felt boring since it was a lot of "desert"/dirt everywhere seemed kinda samey. The urban areas are more interesting than Breakpoint as the buildings in Breakpoint kinda don't blend with the tropical/mountain setting and majority of your battles will be confined to these clusters of buildings almost as if instances. In Wildlands there are civilians roaming everywhere and enemies are more spread out so it all seems seamless. The map from Breakpoint though as whole is much more beautiful and I believe has a bit more variety to the "biomes". I like Breakpoints customization more than Wildlands, I just enjoy the selection more. Breakpoints UI was much better for me. Breakpoint has more enemy variety especially when you include the newest DLC expansion OPMotherland. I prefer the skills/upgrade system of Breakpoint way more than how it was done in Wildlands, gathering resources was a chore. Wildland's Unidad was so damn annoying. I prefer Breakpoints weapon attachments/mods WAY better, Wildlands again, felt like too much of a bother to get the same attachment you already had but for a specific gun, where in Breakpoint as long as the weapon type was the same, it was universal. Breakpoint I think offers a better difficulty customization. The story/plot for both games were bland and boring but the scifi of Breakpoints seemed a bit more exciting than just latino thugs doin bad shit idk. I do think Wildlands has better character writing, they have more personality and uniqueness in Breakpoint they are straight to the point, no jokes or side comments, back and forth chatter ect. Weapon damage means nothing to me regardless of game, because I ALWAYS headshot..like religiously. I have over 9000+ headshot kills according to my game statistics. Lol Overall both are good games with different nuances but I still prefer Breakpoint overall. Wildlands has FP mod. Jelly.
