You mentioned how hard it is to save any diseased wild-caught Altums. I just recently received (a little over a week ago) ten diseased wild-caught Altums from Jack Wattley Discus. They ranged in size from slightly larger than a quarter to a few slightly smaller than a half-dollar. One was laying on its side when I opened the box, it never recovered and died within 24 hours. The other nine didn't look good and all immediately developed fin rot. (To add context to this, they all were put in a brand new 65 gallon that had never housed other fish. I seeded two large sponge filters in another Angel tank that never had any disease issues or even had another fish die in that tank, and hadn't had any new Angels added to the tank in months.) Sadly, on the day I noticed the fin rot it took about 17 hours before I could get prescription Amoxicillin from a local veterinarian. Started treating the tank daily with 6, 250-milligram capsules. From everything I read about treating fish with prescription capsules, I read just to pour the powder in the tank. I did so on day one, but the powder hardly dissolves at all. From that day on I dissolved them in a gallon milk jug that I would fill about 20% and shake vigorously every ten or so minutes for an hour and it would eventually dissolve. I'm not sure if dissolving them entirely is the best way to go, but it seemed logical to me. On the first day when I simply added the powder to the tank, I would say at best only about 30% of the powder dissolved. It seemed to me that 100% dissolved would be more effective. I would do about a 40% water change every 24 hours before treating. I lost six more fish throughout the six days of treatment, leaving me with only three. From everything I've read you are only supposed to treat the fish for five days, but since on the first day the powder hardly dissolved at all, I thought I would treat one extra day. Been a couple of days since any have died, I'm feeling pretty good about the last three surviving. Poor guys barely have any fins left, but they are behaving normally, swimming around the tank and eating well. Feeding fresh frozen brine shrimp twice a day. Occasionally giving them a small treat of either flake, freeze-dried parasite and bacteria-free blood worms, and freeze-dried baby shrimp. By the way, Gabe Posada who owns Jack Wattley Discus reviews well when he ships out healthy fish. But, If you do your due diligence (which I wish I had prior to making my purchase) expect zero compensation from Gabe if you receive diseased fish. I have read other horror stories about people receiving sick Altums and Discus from him. He will do nothing at all to help or compensate you. The best he even said to me is that they are delicate fish and often they will develop secondary bacterial infections from shipping. Well, if that is the case how about warning people of that so they can be prepared to begin treatment on the day they receive the fish. Honestly, I don't think it would have made a lot of difference, I'm convinced the bacterial infection began on his end. I'll update if I should lose any other fish.
I'm very sorry to hear your story. Trying to recover fish...😥I know the feeling. Because of experiences like yours, people are often scared to buy altums. I like to encourage the practice of buying captive-bred. I am a hobbyist and I've been down this road as well. The feeling of being able to successfully take care of and then enjoy your fish for a long-term is what the good experience is all about.
@@shorelineaquatics5210 Yeah, while I know I did everything possible to save them, I may not try again. Too costly and stressful for me. Update to my post from this morning. No longer feel as confident the last three will survive. Leaning towards losing all of them. Oh well, looking for some good looking half blacks to replace them with.
That’s a sad story to tell about your precious Altums, it’s not always about the cost, but there are exceptions to this, especially when your talking about receiving 10 diseased Altums from a reputable distributor, and even after your best efforts to save them, it’s hard to watch them die. After watching this video, When your ready, buy some tank raised Altums, and give them 1 more go.......good luck. 🙏👍
I have seen Cb altum can do well riding along with a discus method. I personally like to give my pairs big tanks 200+ gallons. Smaller tanks that do well I think 110. 48x18x31
Sounds like Altima are great for fish keepers who are really diligent with their care. 50% weekly waterchanges in easily done. I have 5 tanks of very delicate fancy goldfish and they get 30% water change every three day......no problems with Altus. Just good heaters keeping temp at 84 f without breakdown.
@@shorelineaquatics5210 Thank you once again brother. What’s the Altum approx breeding tank volume??? Is it possible to grow discus babies (coin size) along with f1 Altums size around 1.5 inches??
Small price last year was $90..a great deal since the last wilds I purchased were at 85 & 100 in 2023.. these look great and arrive healthy. There is no wholesale price list..thanks
Over the years I have learned to avoid freshwater live and frozen foods. Most likely feeding bloodworms to healthy Altum will be fine. There is some element of risk. I'm more likely to take these type of risks when I'm trying to spawn fish. I think the best frozen food is spirulina brine shrimp. Frozen foods can possibly contain bad bacteria, but since this food is saltwater grown, it is not likely to contain parasites or protozoa.
@@shorelineaquatics5210 Thank you so much for sharing your valuable experience. Do you also recommend sanitise and wash well quality frozen artemia with potassium permanganate before feeding to altum babies??
I've never heard of this fish food cleaning process..In general, fish that are healthy can resist many things. Bacteria is a part of life. Look up "Germ vs Terrain Theory" Aquarium fish living in a bubble is not the goal.
I used to feed freshwater live food. Over the years I've had some problems the introduction of harmful bacteria and pathogens. The number one food for baby fish is baby brine shrimp.
Absolutely. Having a mega sale right now on our website. Wholesale pricing is now being offered to everyone. Free shipping in quantities over 5 fish. Just want the opportunity to prove how good these are; how we do things here at Shorline Aquatics :)
@@leminphat110592 I'm sorry but I do not currently have a Facebook profile. Reverse osmosis water is water that has all minerals removed from it. Rainwater also works. Are you from Vietnam? Peat moss might not be available to you but you can also use Catappa leaves. This tree probably grows in your location. They are also called Indian almond leaves. I would be wary about trying to mimic an extremely low ph of 5.5 or less. There are many considerations that affect the stability in your system and it goes beyond basic discussion. If you choose to experiment it will be at much risk. My only advice would be to run your own experiments. Don't automatically believe all the aquarium mythology out there. You need to test and observe. Never under estimate the fact that killing all your fish can be very real. Nobody including myself knows that much into this realm. We can only continue to learn. Unfortunately failure is an essential part of learning and discovery. I tend to see things for what actually happens and try not to explain things scientifically which usually comes from suggested ideas you would think make sense. I believe there's just too many conditions to make a formula that is consistent through all systems.
That’s what I was also wondering. The lowest my ph will go is about 6 with my rodi unit. Plus then you have to remineralize and buffer it so the ph doesn’t swing so no clue how he also only has a tds of 28. A tds of 28 is basically pure rodi water
I just emailed you on your site I have a lot of questions that I was hoping you could give insight on if you look at my channel I've kept angelfish for a long time and have always wanted to have a mated pair that raise fry on their own if you could give me insight in that email I would appreciate it thank you. *I am setting up a 310g aquarium
