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Brewing With Underwhelming Commanders | Episode 7 

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@mor4261
@mor4261 3 года назад
Changing colors of anything that gives protection from a color is alway fun too!
@curt3628
@curt3628 3 года назад
One of my favorite series ever, I just love the Jann commanders not just new meta decklists.
@kaid1887
@kaid1887 3 года назад
I love Jann 💘
@curt3628
@curt3628 3 года назад
@@kaid1887 i meant jank, god I am so bad at spelling
@ondrejsuchy4483
@ondrejsuchy4483 3 года назад
Gyrus was a lot of fun to build for me so I’m happy to see your take on him.
@joaocarrico67
@joaocarrico67 3 года назад
Have a list?
@Pairsath
@Pairsath 3 года назад
Care to share (your list)?
@ondrejsuchy4483
@ondrejsuchy4483 3 года назад
@@joaocarrico67 it was a very very budget one.. used to be just below 25 dollars but some prices have increased so I gave up on it sorry
@ondrejsuchy4483
@ondrejsuchy4483 3 года назад
an absolute must include though is selesnya eulogist and all the plaguecrafter variants from what I remember I leaned a lot more heavily into golgari strategies and ramp so tilling treefolk and genesis were great for returning things to hand also Id say trying to keep the attack of creatures to a low number really isnt necessary with how big you can pump gyrus
@Zacharadus
@Zacharadus 3 года назад
I get so excited when I see these uploads! Some of the best MTG content on RU-vid for sure! Keep at it!
@TDMicrodork
@TDMicrodork 3 года назад
I'm allergic to shellfish- not only did it kill my entire village, it gave me a rash Olivia, fisher Now I'm imagine a crab killing vampires. I know most likely not that Olivia
@jonahcoffman3078
@jonahcoffman3078 3 года назад
Gyrus is great with that new gruul legend from Adventures in the Forgotten Realm that doubles attack triggers
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
yes, wulfgar. i literally just finished recording my top 10 commanders from forgotten realms video and said exactly that.
@f0url1ghts
@f0url1ghts 3 года назад
As a blind seer player, the point of chill, wrath, insight, ect. are to play color word changers like glammerdye and change the colors to something more appropriate.
@golgoglass8024
@golgoglass8024 2 года назад
Just built blind seer and I agree I run most of the whim of volrath type cards and it does work
@Salamastradon6885
@Salamastradon6885 3 года назад
Love the Gyrus Deck, I'm definitely going to have to build that commander soon!
@DrukenReaps
@DrukenReaps 3 года назад
On Grenzo and by extension Gyrus I do have to say it is hilarious when you pump some mana into casting him and drop out a 21/21 granzo with a Rogue's Passage. I only ever did this once but I was laughing manically for a good while.
@shikabaneconga
@shikabaneconga 3 года назад
this is honestly one of my favorite series
@facelessgames94
@facelessgames94 3 года назад
For gyrua, there's a mono green populate creature that one could include. Small creature with 2G: exile a card(?) from a graveyard and populate.
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
selesnya eulogist. it's in there already buddy. great minds think alike i guess.
@Shadowstar108
@Shadowstar108 3 года назад
The series always makes me wonder what bulk and jank I'm going to put in my SCG cart this week. It's great!
@Flatwing
@Flatwing 3 года назад
Really captures the true spirit of commander! So many fun ways to build without being spiky.
@xXDerPuppenspielerXx
@xXDerPuppenspielerXx 3 года назад
I am actually tempted to build isao... You made me really like the buildaround you found. Great episode as always!
@fishinfromscratch5484
@fishinfromscratch5484 3 года назад
I hope one of the auras in that Isao deck is colossification.
@veir8156
@veir8156 3 года назад
I've played a ton of reanimator decks using all the strongest ones. Muldrotha, Meren,Sedris, Sheoldred. None are nearly as fun for me as Gyrus is. He's so good. Drop him early and people don't want to remove him because you'll just bring him back stronger and stronger. He's so underrated in how good and fun he is.
@TheRusty
@TheRusty 2 месяца назад
Man it's weird how the current Oracle wording of Insight completely changes the spell's function from how it was printed. A proper wording would be "When Insight comes into play, choose an opponent. Whenever a green spell cast by that opponent resolves, draw a card."
@Terrakinetic
@Terrakinetic 2 года назад
I love how the Blind Seer is just Urza pretending to be a blind guy. At any time he can be "Urza, Lord High Artificer," but he's just f⛎↪king with you.
@vicbaldini
@vicbaldini 3 года назад
I used to have Master of Cruelties on Gyrus. It was an insta-kill for one player if both him and Gyrus connects.
@romeesio
@romeesio 3 года назад
*edit: I am wrong, see below* Blind seer can with with with Wrath of Marit Lage, you color them creature(s) during the end step, and they stay colored until the next "beginning of end step". Same trick you can use with Astral Slide/Drift in a cycling deck to blink out a creature with an undesirable upkeep trigger.
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
sorry. it's not until the next end step, it's until end of turn. those are two different things. "end of turn" effects wear off on the cleanup step.
@romeesio
@romeesio 3 года назад
@@edhdeckbuilding the more you know; older cards do wind up ambiguous since the 2010 revamp, but I suppose you can apply the heuristic that continuous effects remain "end of turn" while trigger-esque ones are "beginning of the end step" things; Seer is more like giant Growth than Final Fortune, so it tracks.
@el_pablodocus
@el_pablodocus 3 года назад
After trying to brew 8.5 tails with a colors matter theme which didn't really work I turned to Blind Seer. Glad to see your take on him ! A lot of fun and unusual interactions
@Tsuchigumo880
@Tsuchigumo880 3 года назад
Oh wow, I have a Grenzo deck and I never once considered using Gyrus the same way. That even gives you access to Poison-Tip Archer and Rhythm of the Wild!
@LowinBayrod
@LowinBayrod 3 года назад
You could put some good "0/0" in Gyrus : Naya Soulbeast, Sekki, Seasons' Guide, Noosegraf Mob, Heroes' Bane...
@Chris-yb8bg
@Chris-yb8bg 2 года назад
Blind seer usually includes cards that can change an instance of a card like crystal spray to change those color specific cards to what color you need.
@dislikebutton9571
@dislikebutton9571 3 года назад
another great card for gyrus (and any deck that you want to get safe attacks with your commander) is general's kabuto from kamigawa. gives shroud and prevents combat damage dealt to the equipped creature.
@romeuneto843
@romeuneto843 3 года назад
Instant speed populate (Selesnya Eulogist for example) and token copy makers (like esika's chariot) make cool additions in a gyrus deck I believe.
@genesis4322
@genesis4322 2 года назад
Just imagine Painter's Servant and Hibernation. That's basically a game reset and that is incredible.
@golgoglass8024
@golgoglass8024 2 года назад
I run chill in my blind seer so I can just alter reality, vhim of volrath etc and change it to whatever color works best
@ReLeaseHaVoc
@ReLeaseHaVoc 2 года назад
Withering Gaze is a card I just saw over on the Nitpicking Nerds chanel that made me find this video to suggest it in Blind Seer! Granted you need Painter's Servant out but very cool.
@AlexOvTheAbyss
@AlexOvTheAbyss 2 года назад
Been wanting to build a Gyrus deck, then this video popped up in my feed lol
@soupkup9377
@soupkup9377 3 года назад
Hi Demo, I know it's not uncommon but it often gets outshined by Muldrotha, could you please consider The Mimeoplasm? I'm conflicted on using +1/+1 counters ooze tribal or having necrotic ooze as secret commander and jam in a bunch of activated abilities. Maybe a happy mix of both?
@CaleU011
@CaleU011 2 года назад
Dreampod Druid is also super good in this type of deck. I enjoy using it with Verdant Embrace
@stuartjackson7834
@stuartjackson7834 3 года назад
Hey Great Work - love your channel - thanks for bonus deck too!
@thouvenelclement2398
@thouvenelclement2398 3 года назад
I think that if you double the token with doubling season for example the second token is not sacrifice at the end of combat.
@Acgf1569874
@Acgf1569874 3 года назад
To be honest, I never liked 3+ color commanders but that Gyro looked so fun to play with or against that made me consider a deck...
@colinhofer7830
@colinhofer7830 3 года назад
I have a Azorious Color hosing deck and King Crab just top deck locks ppl out of the game 1 creature at a time til they just don't play creatures anymore. It's a house.
@nickswan2247
@nickswan2247 3 года назад
Really want to build a gyrus now
@caden8592
@caden8592 3 года назад
Don't forget that Blind Seer would work with Blue Elemental Blast and Hydroblast. I might have to make that deck
@vincent-antoinesoucy1872
@vincent-antoinesoucy1872 3 года назад
that turn these into vanilla cancells, it's so bad xD
@o0Takeno0o
@o0Takeno0o 3 года назад
Llawan is the perfect answer as a commander against all these mono blue decks :D
@dislikebutton9571
@dislikebutton9571 3 года назад
a very underplayed etb card that works great in gyrus is mindclaw shaman, it steals an instant or sorcery from an opponent's hand and casts it for free, worst case scenario you still reveal there hand to everyone else.
@DioStandProud
@DioStandProud 3 года назад
Idk why your intro is so hype lmao Great vid!
@ryanrobot7975
@ryanrobot7975 3 года назад
Master of Cruelties? Seems like a good win con
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
indeed.
@guyinthecorner0
@guyinthecorner0 3 года назад
I think commander tax is just an extra 2 on top of whatever you already pay for it, so Gyrus would be X2BRG, right? My understanding (I'm still kinda new to magic) is that he's trying to fit that 2 into X to give him the +1/+1s without paying any extra.
@guyinthecorner0
@guyinthecorner0 3 года назад
@Joshua King Cool cool, thank ya! He seemed wicked cool, I just didn't know of it would work the same way.
@thechefhans739
@thechefhans739 3 года назад
Thanks demo
@austinblankenship7631
@austinblankenship7631 3 года назад
I love this series so much. My vote for the next one is definitely Asmira Holy Avenger, I have a GW aristocrats (surprising amount of unique synergy) with some cool ozolith shenanigans that I love. Chisei is something to maybe give a try too, finally a home for Snowfall! (if you run enough cumulative upkeep cards, that is)
@septred3
@septred3 3 года назад
Sagas is a big one.
@austinblankenship7631
@austinblankenship7631 3 года назад
@@septred3 being able to keep everything tapped down with Kiora bests the sea god is definitely a win con, I built it in an artifact matters way partially myself and looping urza's saga or using cards like power conduit are fun and can be surprisingly powerful once they get going
@RazielNightfall
@RazielNightfall 3 года назад
Problem with Gyrus is he permanently exiles the creature from the graveyard.
@nidak3194
@nidak3194 3 года назад
If you wanted you could run Sundial of the Infinite to keep the creature on the battlefield, would fantastic here.
@RazielNightfall
@RazielNightfall 3 года назад
@@nidak3194 that does not help at all. You want an etb @ best you would only get 2 etb. Once casting and once on attack reanimation. Sundial would let you keep token , but that will never allow you to get another etb since creature is exiled from graveyard on Gyrus attack trigger.
@RazielNightfall
@RazielNightfall 3 года назад
Karador just over shadows Gyrus so much. That loosing white to gain red is not enough to pull this commander out of underwhelming.
@Animalfoot
@Animalfoot 3 года назад
So does that mean that changelings are now clues as well?
@secretlich8284
@secretlich8284 3 года назад
I feel like Gyrus would be a much better commander if it didn't exile the card form your 'yard or if you could target multiple creatures with it's ability. Loved the episode though!
@Devynwithawhy
@Devynwithawhy 3 года назад
Thrun beats Isao. I like Thrun. Thrun was the first Mythic I ever opened in my first box I ever bought :D aaaah, those were the days. back when the OG dual lands were only 80$ each...
@bradstrickman5090
@bradstrickman5090 3 года назад
Isn't the creature exiled from the graveyard and not returned with Gyrus? Am I misreading that?
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
it is yes. you make a token copy. that's why i put in doubling season.
@GgOnlyNoobs
@GgOnlyNoobs 3 года назад
Can you do a tuknir deathlock deck tech, only has 4 decklists on edh rec
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
i'll put it on the next poll.
@MFewwy
@MFewwy 3 года назад
Gyrus actually looks pretty interesting
@theknight660
@theknight660 3 года назад
oh my god I never thought about gyrus as a base 3/3 because of the jund mana... welp now I need to make another jund edh list.
@grantharrison918
@grantharrison918 3 года назад
No hydra growth in gyrus just for a one off?
@Closer2Zero
@Closer2Zero 2 года назад
The blind seer is basic like a janky 8.5 tails for the most part
@septred3
@septred3 3 года назад
Don't forget about Primal Vigor for Gyrus. Also could you add Soramaro, First to Dream as an option for underwhelming commanders for the poll sometime?
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
you got it.
@septred3
@septred3 3 года назад
@@edhdeckbuildingsan one idea that I had is enchantress in mono-blue. Well, enchantments that focus on card draw.
@Kulreg777
@Kulreg777 3 года назад
Hey Demo, you worked on Blind Seer at the beginning, but I don't think you posted a decklist. Did you intend to brew a full deck?
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
nope sorry. only the top voted commander gets a decklist typically. it just so happens that i made the isao deck by accident.
@Kulreg777
@Kulreg777 3 года назад
@@edhdeckbuilding ahhh np, thanks!
@xdfarz
@xdfarz 3 года назад
Hey what about extra combat steps in gyrus? Like Port Razer ? And maze of ith? it can protect your commander and still trigger And what about Deep Forest Hermit instead of Deranged Hermit ? It's way cheaper and a bit better i think It seems fun
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
i prefer the echo. so you can let it die right away. but deep forest hermit works as well.
@Krisays49
@Krisays49 3 года назад
Hey Demo, what are your thoughts about Captain Ripley Vance, Gadwick the Wizend, and Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch.
@crazydeadperson
@crazydeadperson 3 года назад
Cards like gyrus confuse me With rooftop storm you still have to pay commander tax Then with karador somehow its effect reduces commander tax And with gyrus commander tax helps it get bigger The last two seem to contradict the first one to me
@serpentdrake4490
@serpentdrake4490 3 года назад
I had a gyrus grave yard but I skrapet it
@snowmochi
@snowmochi 3 года назад
Thoughts on a Sundial of the Infinite to be able to keep the tokens? Would you be able to activate Sundial after damage, but before combat ends?
@madOsna
@madOsna 3 года назад
Yes, that works! It adds a lot of value to the Deck that i'm running.
@megabran6288
@megabran6288 3 года назад
Hey Demo! I love this series I built around your Evra suggestions and it’s pretty fun to play. I’ve never been into white until now. I was wondering if you would consider Ryusei, the Falling Star for an underwhelming commander. Thanks
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
i'll put it in the next poll
@saladtop8499
@saladtop8499 3 года назад
Gyrus is not a bad commander, I use sundial of the infinite and sneak attack
@xdfarz
@xdfarz 3 года назад
oh yeah
@geekmp3
@geekmp3 3 года назад
I really liked Gyrus when they were released but having to exile the creature made it feel like it can't complete late game.
@saladtop8499
@saladtop8499 3 года назад
Use sundial of the infinite
@RazielNightfall
@RazielNightfall 3 года назад
@@saladtop8499 does not stop the creature being exiled from the graveyard. This build wants to uses etb multiple times from the same creature.
@saladtop8499
@saladtop8499 3 года назад
@@RazielNightfall no but the token doesn’t get exiled at the end of combat which technically cheats it out
@toasteroven8259
@toasteroven8259 3 года назад
insight should work as it means when it resolves
@haingis
@haingis 3 года назад
my cousin has an infect Gyrus deck. I've been knocked out by it a surprising lot of times : (
@MTG_Brewzl
@MTG_Brewzl 3 года назад
Can you do a Johan deck? He is my son's favourite.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 3 года назад
Blind Seer= Urza= Wanderer?
@aleksandartrninkov2603
@aleksandartrninkov2603 3 года назад
feel like gyrus is just a worse version of Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker cause it only brings back 1 creature, albeit with power 2 or less not 1 or less and it is also beaten by whisper blood liturgist cause whisper is a tap ability and it can be used multiple times per turn on ur opponent's turns 2 and it doesn't exile, it doesn't have to attack so no risk of it dying to a surprise 3/3 from a beast within or something, like the deck but i get why it isn't popular
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
almost every creature i put in that deck shirei can't bring back so i'm not sure it's a worse version.
@Darwingreen5
@Darwingreen5 3 года назад
Gyrus is cool, but Jund is spoiled for amazing commanders.
@Noddy-Gaming
@Noddy-Gaming 3 года назад
First off thank you for the amazing content I get excited just like I did when I first got into magic every time I watch your videos! I do have a question about the wording on Insight, it says “successfully casts a green spell” would that mean it resolves or just that it was cast?
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
that wording has been errated. it just means "cast" and nothing else.
@22freedom33
@22freedom33 3 года назад
Isao is pronounced E-Sa0
@edhdeckbuilding
@edhdeckbuilding 3 года назад
funny how some other guy just told me it's pronounced a different way. i guess everyone thinks they're an expert.
@22freedom33
@22freedom33 3 года назад
@@edhdeckbuilding that other guy sure was wrong that's all I can tell you
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos
@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos 2 года назад
25:27 You took it apart because you can only ever "reanimate" a creature with Gyrus once, the lines get really clunky, and there are alternatives that let you do what you actually want to be doing without needing to attack and losing your cards forever. If I had to guess
@deathgod1142
@deathgod1142 3 года назад
So hyped I got the first comment
@HanDaimond
@HanDaimond 2 года назад
God, I miss old cards. So expensive to cast and so useless.
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