Brian Jones Death by Misadventure: Why Was Brian Jones ERASED From The Rolling Stones? 

Brian Jones era Stones is my favorite. Aftermath is a masterpiece.

The early Rolling Stones were the real Rolling Stones ❤❤❤❤❤❤

The Brian Jones era was actually the Andrew Loog Oldham era, when the producer forced the Stones to sound less bluesy and more pop to emulate the Beatles success

This is a great video about Brian Jones. I read Kieth Richards book and definitely thought after Brian created the group they were trying to push him out. And Mick Jagger and Keith Richards writing all the songs Brian Jones must have been devasted. I read nothing but contempt for him in that book and Kieth said that all Brian wanted was fame and to mix with the famous, not acknowledging anything about his talent. And when he drowned it seemed Kieth couldn't care a less. However i do love The Rolling Stones music. Great doc. Keep up with them i love this era.

It wasn’t personal Brian got the Axe, It was business. Brian kept getting arrested with drug charges and lost his ability to travel abroad as he lost his Visa. Keith and Mick said Brian seemed disenchanted about the direction the band we’re heading. Brian would show up at the recording studio and would be High off his face. He became unreliable as he wasn’t up to par as far as contributing anything meaningful to the new songs written. Another issue that never set well with Charlie, Bill, Mick and Keith is Brian physically beat his ladies. Keith and Mick were getting ready to travel to the U.S. to support a new album. They understood Brian could not travel and it was a career fact they needed to leave the UK. Simple business decision, your fired pal.

No Brian Jones no Rolling Stones

This is a great mini doc. I saw a lot of rare gems such as Bill Wyman's interview and Jim Morrison's poem for Brian. I really enjoyed this. It was different from all of the other Brian Jones documentaries that I have seen here on RU-vid. Thank you for sharing 😁💖🎶

The song by Muddy Waters was Mannish Boy which had the lyric “I’m a rollin’n stone”.

Big Stones fan especially the Jones era. Enjoyed your documentary👍

Bi-polar with addictions was difficult to treat back in the 60s.

Brian Jones has never been erased from the Stones history, good documentary with an untrue title.

This is a very good analysis of the Brian Jones era--the era of my teenage years. Of course, along with my love of the Stones, I was a massive fan of The Beatles, who get most of the press for experimentation and 'changing music'. But Brian Jones was a master of experimentation and introducing different instruments into the world of popular music. It must have been soul destroying realising that he was not a creative songwriter. So not only did he lose control of being the founder member and leader of the band, but he also lost control of the direction that the Jagger/Richards songs steered the band.

They slowly pushed him to one side , they snatched his girlfriend from under his nose and then , to top it off , they fired him. With friends like that , who needs enemies.

*“The band is really an amalgamation of two bands. The one being an R&B band I formed about a year ago, and the other being a group run by Mick and Keith in S.E. London. I was introduced to Keith and we decided to pool our resources, so with Stu from my band, and Mick from Keith’s we became the nucleus of the ‘Stones.’”* ----Brian Jones 1963 Brian did NOT start the Stones. He asked Keith if he and Ian could join Keith's band and Keith agreed.

06:52 This is a key element because although Brian was the natural leader of the band, its original member and by far its most talented musician, as stated in the video, Oldham assigned Jagger and Richards to the task of writing songs. What the hell?? It's a completely counter-intuitive decision! Brian wasn't initially against the Stones writing their own songs either, as it is sometimes insinuated. He actually suggested that the band could write and compose their material together, using a collective pen name. But the idea was turned down... Then Bill Wyman explained years later that the first Jagger-Richard pieces were mediocre and wouldn't have made it without Brian's touch. Even George Harrison who was a good friend of his said that one day, while Brian was messing around with his sitar, George basically saw him put together the first notes of Paint It Black, of course before it was ever composed. Yet he never was credited for it and neither for any creation that had to do with the Rolling Stones. As for his mishaps, of course dealing with international fame while suffering from the rejection of your fellow band mates at the same time must be pretty difficult. But there also discrepancies can be found in the description of his personality, such as when French model Zouzou who was his girlfriend for a while, talks about him. Some describe quite a different character than the narcissistic hedonist usually portrayed. He might rather have been a victim of group-bullying, who awkwardly tried to counter the manipulations he suffered. There was definitely a decades old smear campaign against him which makes me think he might not have been the raving maniac they've depicted time and again. Anyway, it was a nice video that provides a different view of him. I would definitely encourage the author to expand on the subject and even dig deeper. For instance, the first question remains: why was he not asked to compose from the start?

Photo at 12:15 is Brian and Suki Poitier and not Anita.

No Jones, No Stones ✌🎶

Ah blue turns to grey always one of my top ones back in the day

Brian Jones was the heart and soul of the rolling stones his death was so sad and so tragic his bandmates should have got him help for his addiction the band he created and music was brilliant but it was taken away from him rest in peace Brian Jones

There's so much talk about the 27 club with Hendrix, Morrison and Joplin. People forget to mention Brian Jones.

"Hyde Park was the funeral. And the bit about burying and shovels and all that, it's not that important to me. That was his funeral." Thanks for including this. People are always asking why Keith wasn't at the funeral, I figured that was why.

Truth for Brian Jones❤

Then what was Ian Stewart? The INVISIBLE Rolling Stone?

Jones "erased" himself.

RIP Brian your not forgotten.

There was a lot mystery around Brian's death! It's been said that maintenance people at his house were suspected.

Erased? No, just replaced because he had to be.

And a death bed confession from someone working at Brian's house? They are not talking about it. "We're not going to tell you."

Says a lot about the character of Mick and Keith. They did not give Brian Jones songwriting credit on Lady Jane. We came up with the Melody. This continue with Mick Taylor, who wrote most of the songs for three albums, and was credited with none of them. They are still getting royalties off his work. No wonder he left. It would’ve helped if he sang. It would’ve helped if he wrote. But the Rolling Stones drove Brian to despair. They were all about money.

Cause the birds liked Brian most.

I imagine they are all capable of genuine empathy, but Charlie seems the only one consistently unscheming and companionable.

Similar with Florence Ballard

He was erased because he couldn't function. Like Mick said not everybody is cut out to be in a rock band for fifty years

He was hounded and planted by the UK authorities and bullied by Mick and Keith until his self-esteem was gone.

I believe he was horrendously violent to women. Didn't Nico date him and say that he was a fine guy until he got you in a room alone and then locked the door? I think the Stones themselves had him beaten up because of things he had done to women he was with.

Why was Brian, Fired from the band? Simple, Keith, said 'If the Stones, are going out on tour telling Mick& band We got to do something about Brian', Keith said 'Mick& Me had to go down to Brian's house & tell him hey cuck your Fired!! Keith, went on to say, Brian, was gone, he was out in the stratosphere'. He said 'I don't think Brian, even took it all in... He was already wasted, off in the stratosphere!!!!!

Superb but sad story

i believe what Bill Wyman said here……he was an original thinker, possibly a a genius & an ego maniac & preening peacock (i love the way he dressed!)

To be honest , someone said that Mick and keith. Were unthankful to Brian if it wasn't for him.The rolling stones would not have been a band. He started the rolling stones. He founded that band and. I heard that someone introduced him to drugs and wish he hadn't because it really screwed up his brain.

Justice for Brian Jones.

Photo at 8:28 is Suki Poitier and not Anita Pallenberg

Brian had a wife and kid when the band started…..management did not want that image , Mick slept with Brian’s girl, Brian got paid more because he had a kid-which Mick and Keith misunderstood. Mick and Keith had so much energy and drive and would not slow down, even for deaths of close friends…Brian couldn’t keep up, and Keith stole his girlfriend, then Mick stabbed Keith in the back by shagging Anita, who denied it for years, then admitted it was :performance art” to have sex with Jagger when making a movie Keith begged her not to make and offered to pay her not to make. Brian Jones let Keith cry on his shoulder after Ruby Tuesday dumped Keith, Keith actually moved in to live with Brian and Anita…..when Keith fell in love with his best friend’s girl on the rebound, after Brian and Keith wrote Ruby Tuesday to help Keith get over her. Mick and Keith get too much credit for what was a whole band effort. Jones, Wyman and even Watts all contributed to song writing. Keith said Brian’s songs all sounded like hymns that should be performed by a Welch choir………so I think it was a joke when they wrote that dumb intro to “You Can’t always get what you want”…..with the choir beginning……the horn is beautiful, though….and sounds like something Brian would come up with, and the song was done and being performed before Brian died.They called Brian paranoid, but admitted they were out to get him.

The film neglects to mention the crucial fact that the same first huge hit written by Jagger-Richards, "The Last Time," which launched them on their career path, features as perhaps its most memorable highlight the hypnotic, repetitive guitar riff, which was actually Brian's creation! (Just one of many songs to which Brian made standout compositional contributions of course, a list too long to cite here.)

Keith and Mick treated him horribly. Stole hid band, music, and woman. Never even went to his funeral or try to find out how he died.

Does anyone know exactly how many instruments Brian plays in all recordings? 10, 15?

It’s pretty obvious that the other Stones were jealous of Brian.

Then, Keith started going out with Brian's girlfriend or ex-girlfriend. Such respect.

No Jones,NO STONES.

Brian was not " erased " from the Rolling Stones . His musicianship had slipped in 1968 and it was hard to include him on records . His best playing on Beggars Banquet was the lovely bottle neck guitar on No Expectations .They could not tour the US in 1969 with Brian as he would not have been able to cut it on stage , or maybe even get on stage . Many people remember him as a friend . Bill and Charlie are two who have expessed this . Bill wrote in his memoir Stone Alone that Brian was the first English electric guitarist to play bottle neck electric guitar on a record . Little Red Rooster . He could have gone on to great things , but alas he died to young .

He, the BJ carved, galvanised the way the others, following like undergoing hypnotherapy..

The Stones came from wealth The Beatles were the real tough guys growing up in liver pool That was a bad ass place in the 1950 s I think the images should be reversed

I would leave that band and sue them for my share and do the most damage to them. Maybe he was murdered by the Stones.

Brian Jones was an intoxicated egomaniac who threw it all away. Yes that is exactly what Brian Jones was. His fate was a direct result of what he chose to do to himself.

Brilliant Narrative- The Rolling Stones was Brian Jones, period. Thanks for sharing the brilliance of Brian.

Death by misadventure?!!! The real term is ''taken out''. When there is big money to be made by wealthy and/or powerful people, and you are a liability to them, then off to that great recording studio in the sky you go.

Jared Harris should just walk around in a wig whereever Keith and Mick are to haunt them

Frank Thorogood killed him snds put him in the pool

Jagger and Richards hired a hit man.

He wasn't 'erased', he was fired because he could not tour with the band.

i heard a roadie made a death bed confession?

Lo quisieron dejar en el olvido, pero les salió mal pues los propios fans de los Stones lo mantenemos vigente, fue la mejor etapa y Mick y Bryan tenian el carisma. KRichards es ... muy ruin y soberbio en sus declaraciones.. hasta hoy dia se tiene que aguantar la presencia" de Jones en la banda, el reconocimiento de los fans al talento. Hablamos de musica, la relacion personal es cosa de ellos, aunque es obvio que Richards le tenia envidia... el look, la novia, la fama! Bill Wyman ha hablado mucho sobre la fama de Brian y el público. Los gemelos" son los autores, su talento es innegable, pero con éste tema de BJones es muy mala actitud. Lamentable mi banda preferida tenga esta triste historia que contar, aunque no quieran.

IMO the Stones are colorless w out Jones most of their music sounds the same

Brian Jones died because he knew, at 27, that the best was already behind him. Like Jim Morrison, he was going to get his kicks, " before the whole shit-house goes up in flames." Not everybody's interested in winning a life-time achievement award.

Steal his band, steal his girl, tell him he has no talent. I have never liked the Rolling Stones after Bryan. What an amazing guy Bryan most of been. They all went to kick him out of the band, but didn't go to his funeral. That speaks alot.

Unfortunately Brian was murdered by the man ,whom confessed to the murder on his death bed.Alledgedly.Check it out.Since Brian was murdered.Does he still have to carry the weight,of being the founder of the infamous 27 club?You know maybe Brian was not past his expiration date. Brian"s life was cut vary,vary short by a bullie .Whom was intent on hanging on to Brian...

Mick jagger and Keith Richards have never shown any sympathy for his demise..they are disgracefull¡ it's thanks to Bryan that they are so successfully! What a sad affair!

Me thinks that Jones was just to damn good looking in that band of ugly's ..plain & simple.

"Altamont" was the karma the Stones received for throwing Brian under the bus.

He couldn't tour, play any more or EVEN STAND UP! 3 good reasons right there! plus they could write great songs and he couldn't write one. How much was 20 Quid in 1963? So they really played for 10 Quid? 7:14 Staple Singers not Sisters

They did him dirty All had drug problms even Keith didn’t fire him u as he band he started it Mck as jealous of him

When the REAL creative spark behind the Stones,Brian Jones, died they became just another band.Post Jones they are shit and the only thing that stands out about them is their longevity and that's all.

Jones might have been a narcissist but he probably would have outgrown it he was only 27 in the brain is stil developing. And the others were very jealous of him he was better looking than them and he had style after he was dead they assumed his stylistic ways or tried to

If Brian Jones started the Stones , why didn’t he have total ownership of the Rolling Stones , as well as a patent on their name .?

The founding member! I hated the stones after Beggers, it was trash!

You don’t seem to understand he was the founder and leader of the band, and his estate was entitled to a large sum of money. Nick couldn’t have that if it went to court, so he was he raised, even though Jager and Richards wrote most of the music they still had no way of legally separating Jones from his portion so you make him look like he never existed in the public wouldn’t inquire and neither did his family

They erased him for sure those two idiots jager and Richard’s

He was anti war that is why they hated him. He was like John Lennon.

Just my opinion but after Brian Jones they were just another pop band, over rated after Brian...but they had to move on without him regardless.

First to comment!!!

The were showbiz not the revolution. Never bigger than lower middle class wannabees hanging around rich people. Hells, Angels save your life - not so much as a thank you. Lemmy said : mummy's boys crap on stage.They stole the copyright and his girlfriend then the band. Nothing about J&R original. Taylor Jones made them feel inferior because they were artistically - so did Pallenburg Faithful who raised there game with a higher level of culture . So overated. There isn't a great Stoner album after Jones. Yah yahs is and was always the go to fill in. But nobody escapes Karma. ( the hideous Jones hex of Sticky Fingers) awful roadie's album. Ect never released their greatest album / track out takes of Exile and of course Altamont! They coulda been but passed at their shot at the greatest album of the 70s. Like the film Performance ( he's actually called Taylor 😂 in the film) a has been washed up hiding in his Powis Square town house. Ultimate poseur who sang about the Devil but couldn't handle it - when he actually rocks up. It's only Rock n Roll. Best epitaph : I Don't Know Why / AKA Hillside Blues. Before their turn to stadium rock bores.As Macca said : blues covers band.

I'm a Keith fan but he likes to portray himself as a hard guy and says The Stones were relieved he passed away..at the very least not suprised. Not so by my observation through the years. Brian was his worst enemy though..just like Syd Barrett. They sabotaged their own careers.

would you say he was popular...?🙄

He really wasn't very talented. Jones was a poser.

My Conclusion is Brian had a ego and and was a narcissist He caused his own demise !!

Brian brought Alot of shit on himself

BJ could not cut the mustard. He was responsible for his own demise. He is not a hero, god or over talented musician.

Brian didn't write, and by the late 60's as rock got heavier he didn't fit. Not to mention his personal struggles

The Stones were right to kick Brian out 55 YEARS AGO.