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But the best of the Brian era was better than Goats Head Soup and It’s Only Rock ‘n Roll. And Let It Bleed was almost a complete album when Taylor joined.
@@fuchsiaswing8545 yes , the best of the Brian Jones era was great. Jumpin Jack Flash is my favorite Stones single, and Beggars Banquet is my 2nd favorite album, Exile on Main Street is my favorite. Unfortunately Brian was about wasted for Let It Bleed. When M Taylor joined it began a string of some pretty good Stones albums
The Taylor period is peak Stones. They produced some brilliant stuff before and great stuff afterwards, but when Mick Taylor was in the band they were sublime.
I'd agree with that! But Brian Jones was very good with musical instruments! Ad it not for Brian Jones the Rooling Stone's would have never come about! There first release! Was Comon!the beatles and stones used to ring one another up so they wouldn't release their record at the same time. That's why they never at to compete with one another in the chorts 😊!upstairs for thinking downstairs for dancing !?.
If Mick Taylor was so good for the Stones as Jagger says why did he swindle him out out of his royalties around 1982? Taylor did so much for the history and popularity of the Stones.
It's common for record companies to screw bands, but to screw your own band mate that contributed so many great solos and contributed to your fame is beyond my comprehension. May the guilty parties burn in hell.@@mygreatbigfoot1679
The main reason why I have never played the guitar for others ...The style , notes,gear and shapes of the chords should be known only to the true authors
The problem wth two guitarist situations is that sometimes some very ordinary skilled guy just follows the other guitarist way of playing note for the note ...playing exactly the same shapes ,same octaves ..everything ...In the Stones case they were weaving together ...all that open G stuff unfolded while Mick Taylor played the standard tuning and it melded very good together
lead guitar yes and The Stones were at their best between 1969 and 1974 but, Keith is maybe an asshole but with Malcom Young, certainly one of the best rythm guitar player and riff creator.
I was lucky to see the Stones with Mick Taylor about 71-72. They played Sympathy for the Devil, and the best songs from their most recent two or three albums. Taylor was on the side of the stage closest to me, and I had a good close seat. He made the sound glow, really, and solidified the band while Mick marched up and down the stage. I was mesmerized and astounded, couldn't quit smiling for a week after, and it was all Mick Taylor for me.
I credit Mick Taylor for keeping the band from falling apart completely. Almost any song from his time, Taylor is the glue that makes it work. I particularly love the song Winter, without his brilliant guitar, we probably would have never heard the song, and there are lots of other examples. He is definitely the most talented person to every play with the band and is criminally underappreciated. Charlie and Bill deserve some credit too for being a solid rhythm section during those years when Keith was messed up and Jagger was becoming a schtick on an ego trip. Taylor elevated the band and kept it relevant when they needed it the most.
I agree with most of that. I do disagree with Mick Taylor being the most talented person. As a musician, yes, but as a songwriter no. Mick and Keith are legends as songwriters.
@@jameschristenbury2625 You are absolutely right. Taylor was the most talented guitarist for sure. But it takes more than one guitar player to make a great band.
Absolutely Taylor was a great guitar player, but the fact that he tried to overdub Charlie's drums and Bill's bass, to me shows that he had a horrid ego that was never going to last in that band. There's enough ego going on with Keith for anymore ego in that band. If you are f**kin with Charlie's drums and think you know better than him when it comes to musicality as a drummer, let alone the rhythm section of Charlie and Bill then you are not the right man for that band. I'm fed up with everyone saying that The Stones best period was when Taylor was in the band and implying that this was solely down to him. It wasn't. Mick, Keith, Charlie and Bill were playing and creatively fabulous at that point in time. Also Nicky Hopkins probably had as much of a musical influence as Taylor did on these records yet he's not held in as such high regard.
Agreed, "Winter" is in my top 3 if not my favourite, but it's also worth mentioning that Keith didn't actually play on that song. Jagger is playing rhythm 12-string and Taylor is on the lead, no Keith.
Mick Jagger cuts the solo that Mick Taylor made for that song, that was the moment when Mick Taylor threw the Guitar and get out of the stones forever.
One of the best examples showing that the Stones were at their peak with Mick Taylor is their live 1971 performance of “Dead Flowers” at the Marquee Club.
While I think The Stones were in their zenith in the Jones era, Taylor’s guitar playing is legendary. He was probably the only thing that could’ve saved them from Brian’s death at the time because of his virtuoso playing. Too bad they didn’t give him credit where he deserved, guess they didn’t learn their lesson with Brian.
Brian is too much idolized, he was a good musician, he lost the leadership very soon, he takes too many wrong drugs. 3 great Stones periods, with Brian, without Brian(Beggars banquet, Let it bleed), with Taylor.
Agreed. Ronnie is just what Keith wanted/"desired.... A Yes boy.. Mick was far more spontaneous and "real" than Ronnie, but Ron fitted Keith's ego better.
@@josielymbery1096Their sound became a lot narrower with Ron. Still some incredible LPs especially some Girls imo. That one is end to end among their best
LOL You all have no evidence that Wood is a "yes boy." You're not in the studio or stage. Taylor fans just love insulting everyone else. It's a sign of insecurity.@@josielymbery1096
For this Stones fan, "Time Waits For No One", one of the songs Mick Taylor co-wrote with Jagger seems like the perfect song that sums up how Taylor must've felt before he decided to leave the band.
@@PPBalloons I LOVE the Brian era. As a musician, when I do cover tunes, I cover several songs from the Brian era. Ron is ok, but nothing can touch the guitar playing on Wild Horses or Gimme Shelter. The Mick era is above my head musically to try to cover. You'd have to be another genius to do it credit.
On his last years Charlie Watts said it: EVERYONE OF US WAS INVOLVED IN COMPOSITING ALL THE SONGS. You can see the composition talent behin Bill Wyman hearing his solo albums (they are a lot) so the whole musicians deserve credit for what they did.
I agree. In Classical music, the composer writes every part for every instrument: the violins, the french horns, the oboes, etc. So that's a real composer. In most rock bands, the song's author writes the lyrics and the basic melody, but the band fills out the rest. They are all the song's composer. This may be why U2 always lists all four band members as the composers of their songs.
@@jalisabradford6201 True. But nowhere near as technically proficient. Neither was Keith. Although both of them were extremely creative, they were definitely limited by guitar chops. Not to say Brian wasn’t influential, but as a guitar player, Mick was the best player in the band. Way better than Ron Wood as well.
@@TK-fk4po Mick was definitely in a higher league than Keith, and Ronnie later. But how many different instruments on iconic Stones songs did Charlie Watts play....uuuuuh---ONE, drums! And Mick Taylor???? Did he play a sitar? How about xylophone? Recorder/flute? All rhetorical questions. I rest my case.
He was the best Stones guitarist ever and sticky Fingers and Exile were in my opinión the best of the Stones 😊with great influence of Mick s Blues guitar playing ❤
@@chicklets4ever51 yeah, there’s all his different instrumentation which is great. But just in terms of guitar, his playing tends to get overlooked a lot of the time. He always gets his credit as multi-instrumentalist though
As a kid, I wouldn't have picked up the guitar if it weren't for Mick Taylor. He was not only my favorite guitarist of The Stones ever had but my top favorite guitarist period. In The Stones towards the end, he got a raw deal and I can't blame the guy for wanting to stop his addictions and move on from them. Most every fan thought he was crazy for quitting, but in reality, he did the right thing for himself. Sometimes even the greatest music doesn't last long if you think about it, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and the list goes well on. Sure they had tremendous success but at a cost too. I will always be a Stones fan because there is such good music and it brings me joy whenever I listen to them. The Taylor years will always be most special to me.
Lawyer here. Can’t believe Mick didn’t get legal advice. Naturally the correct legal position is determined by the specific wording of the relevant contracts, but just because the Stones changed labels doesn’t mean any previous contractual obligations to pay Mick are invalidated. I hope he finally got his due.
Just for me, Exile on Main Street remains the definitive Stones album and Mick Taylor is a huge part of it. I very much enjoy the entire album to this very day.
He was brilliant. He gave them a dimension they did not have before and have not had since. It is not a well-known track but Jiving Sister Fanny is a good example of his brilliance.
Yes you're right Nick Taylor played on probably the four greatest rolling Stone albums he did not write the music or the words Jagger and Richards we're at their best
Really good insight on Taylor and the band. It sounds like a mix bag of frustration. I’m glad the man exists. I absolutely love those recordings mick played on. ✌️
The albums that Mick Taylor did with the stones are the cream of their catalog. He deserves a lot of credit for the transformation of The Rolling Stones into a band that changed with the times. And I recall him saying that he left around age 25 because he had turned into a millionaire heroin Junkie. He made the right decision
I am thankful for the time Mick Taylor was with the Rolling Stones. His contribution was immeasurable and historic. Ronnie Wood filled the gap. God bless all of them.
@@walter77ify well, wood brought Hey Nigrita to the band, Black n blue is a classic. I like Ron, but can’t think of any memorable solos of his, whereas Taylor’s solos play note for note in my mind. I’ve probably heard them thousands of times, I was listening to the stones in the 70s
I saw Mick Taylor at the Lone Star. Immediately you could tell that he was the sound of the Stones. He really should have been given writing credit because you could hear how much his playing defined those songs.
My favourite Stones albums was during the Mick Taylor years.I read a quote in Cream magazine many years ago attributed to Taylor concerning why he left the Stones-“when you’re a tax exile living France,you’ve been up all night doing heroin with Keith Richards,you know there’s something wrong”.
Thanks for doing this video. This is the most detailed and interesting account of the relationship between Mick Taylor and his departure from the Rolling Stones that I have heard or read.
…this was fascinating! just listened to Ya-Ya’s a couple nights ago…Micks’ playing is so good…it’s not an accident that the Stones lost the two best guitarists they had…
…were you not listening to this video ? No Straight Man in England or elsewhere talked like that in the 60s or 70s…I’m saying “not sure” just to be conversational…perhaps if you have nothing to add to the conversation you should stay seated at the children’s table…
I think the time Mick Taylor was in this band was the only time they could truly call themselves the "Greatest Rock n Roll band in the world" Saw Mick in a small nightclub in Vancouver 40 yrs ago. Felt privileged to have been there.
The Mick Taylor years were my favorite for live Stones; from everything I’ve read, he left mainly due to drugs…he couldn’t afford to keep pace with Keith etc…my first concert ever was The Stones with MT in ‘72 & I also saw their 50th anniversary tour where MT played in a few…I met him outside a small club he was playing in Philly & complimented his first solo album and he said “Oh, you’re the one that bought it..”
@@charlessteenburgen It is to many fans for some reason. I liked everything up to then, but I don't like a single song on it. To me it sounds like 1/2 finished songs , poorly recorded by the same guys who were way, way too messed up on Cocaine. But it must have something that just doesn't resonate w me since true fans absolutely love it.
I love Ya-Ya’s, even if it's heavily dubbed. However, the best live material of the Stones is the European 1973 shows (all bootlegs), which are as raw as raw can be but showcase a band at the height of their prowess. Plus, unlike in 1969, Taylor is now FULLY unleashed.
@@fuchsiaswing8545 it would be interesting to kmow exactly what was over dubbed. I can hear in the left right mix lots of peculiarities . Even so, it is a brilliant album to listen to cuz most can not come across the bootlegs.
@@theyrekrnations8990 All vocals are overdubbed and I think also the rhythm guitar parts of some of the Berry songs on the album. They didn't have to overdub Mick Taylor's guitar playing though.
@@Kleermaker1000 i noticed on the song Carol in the right channel 1st verse, Taylors rythm guitar is clear and as the song progresses it disappears and the piano is broufht up in the mix
The Glimmer Twins are as bad as the record companies at cheating artists it appears. Richards complains in his autobiography about selling the rights to Satisfaction for cheap and then having to pay the royalty owner each time The Stones play it. And this is something he sold, got money for and makes money off of through ticket sales and he still complains. That makes him a hypocrite in Taylor's case by not even paying Taylor at all.
You feel that because Jagger IS an egostistical backstabber. His effort in trying to make himself frontman and some kind of royal wannabe made The Stones irrelevant already back in the late 60’s. The front page more important than being the great band they were. Blaming other band members to be under the influence whilst being a junkie himself didn’t improve the rambling and commotion that was The Stones in the 70’s. After the early 70’s the band just became increasingly irrelevant and now just a bunch og geezers travelling the world trying to be sophisticated about it all. For me "Get yer YaYa’s out" is the last great thing they made and one of the world’s most underrated live albums.
Jagger could have been replaced by a real singer at any time. I read that Steve Marriott was considered for jones replacement but jagger said no probably because of marriotts superior vocals. And Jeff beck was asked too but turned them down because he couldn’t see himself playing 3 chord blues forever. He also said it was the worst financial decision he ever made.
I get it, Jagger & Richards are critical to the Stones success, so for all those who tee off when I say what I say, remember that. Make no mistake, the same way they screwed Taylor out of song writing and treated him coldly at times is how they helped do in Brian. You can just hear Mick Taylor’s influence all over the tracks just like you can hear Brian’s influence all over the tracks. The sound from both has never again been visible on the songs under Wood. I like Woody, but to me he peaked with the Faces as he clearly was able to show his talents. I dig a lot of tunes from Black n Bluee onwards, but the feel on all the albums flows into each other and doesn’t present anything that unique or innovative like they did under Jones and Taylor. Imagine ceasing payment to Taylor with the new label contract after all those amazing contributions. That’s Jagger and Richards ego doing that (we’re the Stones). It’s why they slag Jones left and right cause they know his contributions impacts the legacy they want to tell Wish they’d just grow up
There was a second magic period with the Stones and 3 of the best Stones' albums are there to tell the story. I am talking about, first, Brian's indelible influence on the band and then when Mick Taylor was in the band. He gave what he could and followed his instinct and listened to his inner voice and left the band on the crest of a wave of popularity and adulation and not in a casket.
That's not the only reason he left. Taylor thought the Stones were doomed and left them at perhaps one of their most dysfunctional periods. He estimated wrong.
@@fuchsiaswing8545. He didn’t think they were “doomed,” he thought they’d end up an absurd looking band of lizard-looking octogenarians clinging onto their former success. He was right.
I saw the rolling stones live in about 2013 mick taylor played as a guest artist and was fantastic . Micj Jager Introduced him as a old friend of the stones which I thought was abit inaccurate he wasn't really a friend just their best ever guitar player.
Mick Taylor I was gonna say, Winter, Moonlight Mile, Honkey Tonk Women, Brown Sugar, Time Waits for No One, Wild Horse, Silvertrain, Dead Flowers, The Hand of Fate and others....love your showmanship and looking the part Ronnie - but Taylor defined their golden era (in my humble but 100% correct opinion).
There is no doubt that Taylor's stint with the Stones produced their best music, it's hard to debate seriously. It's hard to believe, however, that part of him doesn't regret leaving. I do understand how a decision like that could be made, however. I'm sure he was very hurt about how he got screwed out of songwriting credit, and he probably figured if this is how it's going to be, screw these guys. Ego gets in the way of practicality, nothing new under the sun there, we've all been there, done that.
yeah, as the Stones themselves admit, the serious money didn't start to roll in until the 1980's and those stadium tours etc. I think it's precisely why Bill Wyman quit when he did - After the Steel Wheels tour or thereabouts he genuinely no longer needed the money - none of them did, and that would have included Taylor had he stayed those 15 years. Of course, he would say he probably wouldn't have survived them but who knows?
@@jpc54 2 songs from Goats Head and MT years - Waiting on a Friend and Tops. Slave and Worried about you are from Black & Blue and the rest are outtakes from Some Girls or Emotional Rescue.
The best incarnation of the Stones was with Taylor. Hands down. I was there in 65 when they first 'burst' onto the scene. But Sticky Fingers blew it all away.
I've heard some of the 'better' musicians complain about how long it takes Keith to get things 'right'. Meanwhile, the Stones have a thick catalog of classics, because, eventually, he gets things EXACTLY right, & the complainers are still back-up hacks.
They absolutely never would never never have risen to the reputation of the greatest rock ‘n’ roll band in the world without Mick Taylor he was the engine axis center that gave all those songs balls with spanky raw rock blues power sound also put Keith a average player into a competitive more crunching rhythm that will never be reproduced. Ron Wood is a good player but doesn’t even hold a candle to this virtuoso that he was at that stage in his life
Gallagher and Jeff Beck, who also might have joined, would never have worked inside the Stones framework. They were way too talented (in different ways) and would not have been able to play "second fiddle" like Ronnie Wood. Wood was the right choice. They were both forces of musical nature in their own right, no way either of those guys would have been happy in that situation.
egoism, overconfidence, narcissism, drugs, money...., that is a distroying mix, not only the greatest Rock n Roll Band ( 69-74 ). I remember that news 74, like if it happened yesterday, I was real deeply shattered...it is the past. Anyway I joined a lots of gigs during the decades, but when Charly died, I decided, to stop it...for my soul :-) if they would do a tour with Ringo on the drums, Taylor on the lead and Bill the bass,...that would kick me back:-)
The best period of the Stones was from Beggars Banquet to Exile on Main St. Those 4 albums are why you should listen to The Rolling Stones. And Mick Taylor was contributing to 3 out of those 4 albums.
With Taylor the improvement was immense, Keith knew a little bit but he always sounded the same using the same few chords, with Taylor they started to sound cleaner, much tighter, and sophisticated, it was obvious Taylor was the right person but both of them competing for the prize would have made staying together in one location, (France) unbearable, and as much as Mick would have loved to dump Keith for Taylor was impossible since Keith was with Mick when he killed Brian and would have let the cat out. So, Taylor was right, it was never meant to be..
I saw Mick wth John Mayall at the Marquee several times, He was already a very accomplished guitarist at the age of 16. John Mayall was nobody's fool when it came to spotting talent.
Existe um RS antes e depois de Mick. Que pra mim é o melhor guitarrista que já vi tocar. Seu feeling e seu virtuosismo é indiscutivelmente maravilhoso 🙌
Drug addiction makes a person do things that their world never forgets or forgives. Got to be tough to be a rolling stone. Taylor saved his own life and left leaving beautiful songs .thankyou
When I was about 15 my cousin gave me a live Rolling Stones bootleg record from 1973. I remember listening to the live version of GimmeShelter and thinking "wow, who's playing the lead guitar solo?" Turns out it was Mick Taylor. Ive been a fan ever since. I love the Stones but the records that i own are all from the '69 to '74 period. The Stones were so good during that time. Richards and Taylor were one of the great guitar teams. Too bad it didn't continue but it sounds like the drugs were getting pretty bad.
A couple of songs? Those albums would have never existed at that level without Taylor. It wouldn't matter who the Stones got to replace Jones, nobody would have done what Taylor did. Wood is good and I love Some Girls but that was the last good album The Stones did.
I agree, SG is the only classic album of the Ron Wood era although Love You Live is a good live album but most of their post-Mick Taylor albums have a slapped together quality about them and the songs are weaker.
@9.07 Taylor has a top wrap on his Burst there must be at least three different Burst's in this clip!! it was the crap sound Richards had on his burst that put me off them until Clapton's BEANO!
Best guitarist Stones had. Was lucky enough to see Mick Taylor come on & play Midnight Rambler as a guest with The Stones in London, Hyde park 2013, bloody brilliant.
The Mick Taylor era was easily the best period for the Rolling Stones both studio and live. I knew that Taylor was cheated out of some songwriting credits, but was very disappointed to hear that the Stones cheated him out of royalties for the LP's he played on. That is simply blatant obvious thievery given that his name appears on the LP packaging. You can dispute who provided the words, the melodies, certain musical elements within a song when you're sitting around for days on end trying to create new songs. There can be no dispute regarding who was present in the studio when the LP was made or the concert was recorded.
Taylor was a strong presence in the Stones, but to tell you the truth, i liked his playing much better during his stint with Mayall. Taylor was a true blues guy, and his style was really captivating. imo ... and though i am still a Clapton fanboi ... Taylor was right up there at his level, and even beyond. Check out some of his late 60's recordings with Mayall ... super great stuff.
Mick Taylor was a wonderful player prior to joining the Stones, and I urge fans to check into the three studio albums with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, the band where Eric Clapton and Fleetwood Mac founder Peter Green also made their names. Those Taylor-enhanced albums are 'Crusade', 'Bare Wires' and 'Blues From Laurel Canyon'. There is also the live double-set 'Diary of a Band'. Instrumentals including 'Snowy Wood', 'Driving Sideways' and 'Hartley Quits' as well as his playing in all other tunes is great. Check the wah-wah-driven 'No Reply' with him on guitar and Mayall singing - just the two of them. There is also the stunning solo in 'I Started Walking'. The studio version is killer. The longer live version is ripping. Unfortuantely, it seems that few Stones fans have ever heard Taylor's Bluesbreakers-era playing. Anyone who hasn't is certainly missing out.
I've been a stones fan since the early 60s and have seen them live many times.. And I personally think they were at their best when Brian was in the band.. And when Mick Taylor joined.. His guitar playing was sensational and they haven't been as good since he left.. But that's just my opinion
Mick Taylor is such a great musician that I can't think of a single song that he produced since 1974, but the '72 US / '73 European tours, Sticky Fingers and Exile are the peak of rock n' roll, not just the Rolling Stones.
I did enjoy Mick Taylor's work with the Stones but there were also many others that contributed in a similar fashion, for example: Nicky Hopkins, Jim Price, Bobby Keyes. But the reason the Stones sound changed was because of Jimmy Miller, the Producer. You can hear the difference beginning with Beggar's Banquet, the last time Brian Jones was on record. The song style was changing. You will hear Nicky Hopkins, backing vocals and a choir and so much more. This continued, arrangements changing, piano, horns and extra vocals on many tracks. You might say that Jimmy Miller was to The Stones as George Martin was to The Beatles. Mick Taylor was a Blues Guitar Player and had some solo recordings, mostly live. I have his 1979 self titled vinyl LP. His session work though is quite impressive but his work with The Rolling Stones is his own peak in the music business.
I had the privilege to tour as a roadie helper for a week with Mick and his band about 13 years ago in the US. You pretty much nailed it…I was surprised when Mick told me he’d rather play with the Beatles. The Stones were too Bar Room for his taste.