"That's just unnecessary." No, that's exactly how the Bridgertons play. It's exactly how Daphne explained they play. This shows how Kate fits in with the competitive Bridgertons. Not so Edwina, who is uncomfortable with how they play and retires from the field.
very weird that they keep on finding fault with kate but not the bridgertons themselves who are the ones who brought the competition and thrive in it both on and off the field
Edwina is too delicate for Anthony. He needs someone older, stronger, more spicy like Kate. So obvious from the beginning. And Daphne had a great instinct about it too.
neither kate or anthony knew of their feelings for each other..kate is not bitter just anthony was not bitter in season one with daphne..overbearing but not bitter
I think you guys are missing Kate's motivations. it's not that she doesn't want Edwina to marry Anthony because she has feelings for him. It's just that Kate wants Edwina to marry for love and marrying for love is something Anthony wants to avoid altogether, hence Kate's actions.
Love your reactions ❤ But up to this episode kate literally wasn't aware she had feelings for Anthony..she was coming from a place of love snd protection of her sister..you guys are ignoring the fact that,Kate was pretty aware from the beginning that Anthony is not looking for love whatsoever..he was honest about it and we got to know why he's categorical about it in this episode so basically he wants a "perfect",good future partner and mother but he's already decided love is not what he's looking for 🤷♀️ he would actively avoid it.. so by approving him Kate would approve of a loveless marriage to her desperate romantic sister which obviously a no for Kate.. as you might remember even in her conversation with lady dunbury, her reasoning for not telling her sister about "the Sheffield's plan" was to make sure there's no pressure on edwina and that she finds a man she loves and who loves her back to marry bcz according to Kate, if Edwina knew.. she would marry the first convenient man .. 🤷♀️
I don't think there's any spite there. After hearing what Anthony said to the other men, and what he said at the poetry reading, she knows he doesn't offer Edwina love, and she wants Edwina to have love.
This season is by far my favorite, it hit too close to home,Kate and Anthony feel VERY real to me. My dad died to COVID and I promised him I'd look after our family. I'm the eldest and I have put my life on pause to help them. Keep my mom going through her depression, check in on my sisters and help them move forward while staying at a job I hated and take on several responsibilities that my dad had... I would do it again for them, no doubt, but the trauma in seeing your family lost in sadness and being the only one to carry them forward is exhausting. Thank you for reacting❤
I want a prequel now with Violet and Edmund's love story. Lady Featherington is devious as all get out but I understand why she does the things she does. I'm absolutely enjoying your reactions to this season. I can't wait for you to get to season3!
i would say most of anthony's interest in edwina until this ep was bc of his competitiveness with his sister. like he told his brother during their fencing fight, "why should I be the one to give up?" he wanted to win the girl but more importantly make kate "lose." this ep shows us though that he's terrified of how powerfully love can affect a person, and just wanted someone pleasant enough who could be there to fulfill a role so he could remain detached. its so frustrating to me bc he makes this clear over and over again, and we know edwina WANTS love so seeing her consistently latch onto him i just wanted to shake her. he can't give you what you need sis! she's young tho so i understand why she might be hopeful or fantasizing otherwise, but expecting others to change bc of you is not it. anthony and kate don't know about their feelings, at least not until this bee sting forces them to be in super close proximity. its obvious from their scared expressions after running away. hate switching over into love isn't obvious and probably still feels just as annoying and overwhelming so it makes sense why they wouldn't know it until they shared the same breathing space and go, Oh. Oh, sh*t.
@@HuntingViolets my mistake. in the books she's 17, still young impressionable and brand new to courting so its understandable the lovely life she's imagining she and anthony would have is actually far from what he is capable of providing her
@@gyjlover Definitely, although in the book she really didn't care about Anthony or a fancy life. I don't think the show would be able to present her as 14 even if that were her age in the book, because I would think a lot of the audience would be up in arms. It's also not a usual age for marriage in this era (not that the show is interested in accuracy, although it has corrected a couple of mistakes from the book). Yet I think about Will and Ariel Durant sometimes, and I never know quite what to do with that. I don't think Edwina would roller skate to her wedding, though.
I think you forget that she overheard him discuss marriage in context of using wife for children and then finding more favourable pursuits elsewhere (though another character said it). Kate believes since he declares he’s not looking for love match Anthony is the kind of gentleman who would have no love for wife and instead have mistress on side and Kate doesn’t want this for her sister. Kate feels his charms are manipulative.
Kate isn’t being petty or spiteful. She doesn’t even realize the depth of her feelings or attraction to Anthony. She just knows based on what he said to those men at the gala that he isn’t interested in a love match. She also knows that is what her sister desires so she doesn’t want them together bc she feels he won’t make her sister truly happy. As for Eloise and Pen. I think ppl overlook that as a Bridgerton Eloise has a lot more freedom & acceptance of her peculiarities than Pen does. Her status, her connection to lady Danbury & by extension the queen, the fact Daphne married a duke & her family being accepting & supportive means Eloise can mostly do as she pleases. Whereas Pen doesn’t have that. Her father has died. Her mother & sisters treat her horribly. She doesn’t have any prospects for a husband. The only thing she has that is hers is being Lady whistledown.
Ruth Gemmell does such an incredible job in the flashback scene about telling Anthony that Edmund was the air she breathed that everyone overlooks that that speech in and of itself is something no young son should ever have to bear. The heaviness of her grief was really unfair to lay on him as a burden, even if it's totally understandable. It was that speech that hardened him and made him resolved to never feel what she's feeling.
I love your discussions and varying opinions, but it's crazy to me that you two dislike Kate. She is the same as Anthony. They are two sides of the same coin. Kate's father also died, and she had to take care of her family at a young age. And that was after losing her mother as well. She makes wrong decisions, but she truly loves Edwina, and Kate also doesn't think she deserves anything before Mary and Edwina are taken care of. I'm very interested to see how you feel about Kate as the season progresses and you know more about her.
It's interesting to see reactions who initially don't understand Kate's character but it also angers me a bit that they wrote their story so off-kilter. I understand it because it took me until this episode and the next before I was gripped under Kanthony's pull unexpectedly. I haven't read the books, I wasn't a fan of Anthony and Edwina was coming off too much like Imani Izzi from Coming to America but at least Kate was showing more layers by this episode even as much as she tried to hide it.
Kate and Anthony are so similar. Both are competitive and the game shows how Kate fits in Bridgerton family better than Edwina. coz as Daphne mentioned that they are competitive bunch which Edwina is not. Also, I don't know how you cannot see that Kate doesn't want to keep Edwina away from Anthony out of spite. It is because she doesn't want her sister to get hurt. Is she attracted to Anthony? Yes, but she loves her sister way more than anyone. In fact, both Kate & Anthony didn't realize their feelings towards each other. You guys are feeling bad for Anthony's backstory but that backstory is of Kate's too. In fact, her is sadder as when her father died, he didn't leave inheritance or money that Anthony had. She was a woman in the era where women were not allowed to vote. Her real mom died when she was young and still instead of grieving her blood father, she was taking care of her step mom and a half-sister. I just hate how executive didn't highlight her backstory much. Also, Edwina knows Anthony doesn't want love, he said so, Kate said so and she was okay and now, she loves him and is begging for Anthony doesn't make sense. She didn't even see real Anthony. In fact, Kate knows the real side of Anthony more than Edwina so I just don't feel sad for her at all when both warned her Also. Violet baby didn't die. She is Hyacinth.
Given that these women were married at 16/17 and Anthony was about that age when his father died, Violet Bridgerton is probably in her mid 40's. Lady Danbury is likely only 5 or 6 years older, so early 50's. On the issue of Kate, I'm not so sure she understands that what she feels for Anthony is attraction/ lust. I think she's misinterpreting it as anger and irritation, particularly since those stronger physical symptoms occur when she feels he's outwitted her in some way. She doesn't recognize that matching wits with him also excites her.
I think Kate's own backstory and tragedy are a bit lost during this season; she lost both of her parents, and the took on the same role as Anthony but with less agency as a female human. She has love from her sister and step mother, but the weight of what she has had to overcome is not explored and I think this sometimes make its challenging to understand her character.
Cousin marriage was not unusual, and he's a distant cousin anyway. He can do a lot better than Prudence, though. It's still legal to marry your first cousin in England and in the majority of the states in the U.S., by the way. It's actually kind of odd the girls would question it on that basis.
As a child of immigrants who grew up around other children of immigrants, I've understood and empathized with from the start the responsibility Kate feels she has to take her of her mother and sister and, therefore, her brazen, overprotective nature. Kate has never been bitter or spiteful. Her actions are always out of pure love and protectiveness of her family. Plus, I would think it's clear the sisters are extremely close. Why should Kate encourage Edwina to marry Anthony? She heard him admit he is not looking for love and then laugh with other men about cheating as soon as a wife becomes pregnant with an heir. Meanwhile, Edwina wants a love match, someone who loves her for her. She is being foolish and naive, not listening to Kate's warnings and allowing herself to be blinded by Anthony's title, pursuit and attention.
Love rewatching this season with you guys! Of course I love and it is importantly Anthony gave his choice during the difficult labor, but on this watch, good thing that doctor was able to save both because from Violet’s monologue, she clearly would have chosen to die. (And save Hyacinth, but in that headspace she would’ve been choosing death more.)
i hope as i watch you guys get to see kate’s character for who she is, she is only looking out for edwina and hopes for her to find someone perfect for her and anthony definitely was not and she knew that as anyone who heard what anthony said when she was eavesdropping she wasn’t the best for her sister not just the wealth. nothing kate has done has been out of spite but is in fact the opposite putting her feeling in the back of her mind and confusing them for disgust for anthony FOR her sister, even not considering herself for marriage and dedicating her life in hopes for her sister and her mother being happy and living without constraint
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I love your channel and the reaction videos. I had to subscribe! I want you get into reaction videos too, how do you manage to record from streaming services like Netflix or HBO?
Imma need y'all to make playlists for Dead Boys and this season of Bridgerton. So my neurodivergent azz can watch it again. Y'all are in my comfort show rotation 😁
There’s a lot of season left and these characters are showing us a lot of potential for change. I’d stick with us. And for the record, we absolutely LOVE this series. We just have questions about some of the characters choices.
I find it disheartening when female characters are viewed as harsh for showing strength....while the men behave the exact same way or do much worse...and are accepted.
Omg y'all are okay with the Bridgertons being competitive and aggressive, but when Kate returns the same energy, you think it's unnecessary? The fact that y'all are finding fault with every trivial thing that Kate does is getting on my nerves. I genuinely don't understand why you dislike her.
She's also an outsider who is far from her homeland, her culture, and an orphan of a loving father who was not wealthy. She needs to be strong to survive amongst the privileged ton of England, who could cast her and her sister aside at any point. She is on the brink of poverty too. Her strength is inspiring and unusual for women in the era she lives in.
I am so glad to hear you say this about Kate. It upset me so much that she did this to her own sweet sister. I never really was ok with it. People don;t have to pursue every attraction we have. Self control people!!
Edwina is looking for title and love. Anthony stated it clearly that he's not looking for love. She still doesn't care and wants to pursue Anthony. And then she acts surprised when Anthony says that he doesn't love her on her wedding day. When Kate is saying that from the beginning that Anthony is not looking for love.
@@RowanBlake That's why I said in the first sentence that Edwina was looking for a love match and a man with a title. Kate was warning her every step of the way that Anthony wasn't looking for a love match. When Anthony and Edwina started to court each other, kate had no control over that situation. She only begged Anthony to marry her sister because Edwina said she loves him. I blame idiot Anthony for proposing. I blame Kate for not telling her sooner. I blame Edwina for ignoring everything kate said and still continue seeing Anthony and then act surprised when he said he doesn't love her. Kate never acted on her feelings. She was ready to lose all of that for her. In return, Edwina attack her with the half sister comment which was beyond disgusting. When she knows that kate feels that she has to do something to fit in the family. The way that Edwina and Mary never understood Kate's insecurity and feeling shows that they never appreciated kate or cared enough.
@@HRLastro Yeah, I can't fathom how anyone could be against Kate. She wasn't having an affair with Anthony & she sacrificed everything in order to take care of her family and I can't quite understand how Mary allowed her to take on all of that, especially since she's ultimately gonna blame Kate for everything...huh? Kanthony reigns supreme in my world.
